6/15/2012 8:54:47 AM

If that SHP stalking shit was happening to someone I knew, I might try and get the car number and contact SHP, and also get in touch with the local PD about it

but of course, both agencies "won't be able to do anything since a crime has not actually been committed"

from the last page:

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"do you ever use really minor traffic infractions (stop sign, etc) as pretext for a traffic stop when you're suspicious about the occupant(s) of a vehicle?"

6/15/2012 8:59:13 AM

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"if you throw something organic out the window like an orange peel, apple core, etc. is that considered illegal littering?"

Under the letter of the law, yes.

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"if you're speeding and somebody gets behind you doing the same speed, do you ever pull them?"

Only had it happen once, they ended up getting arrested.

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"are people speeding in the "fast lane" (i.e. leftmost) more likely to get pulled than those in the rightward lanes?"

More likely? Sure, if you are going to speed, that is the lane to do it.

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"When running radar on a fairly busy highway, how do you know which car is being clocked?"

Radar tone and your eyes.

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"do you ever use really minor traffic infractions (stop sign, etc) as pretext for a traffic stop when you're suspicious about the occupant(s) of a vehicle?""

Yes.

6/15/2012 9:17:28 AM

How do the police catch pawn shops who don't properly document things like electronics with serial numbers to ensure they aren't stolen?

6/15/2012 9:23:41 AM

Do cops ever read the articles, reddit threads, watch the news, watch the youtube videos, or whatever else documents (perhaps fear mongers) the bad behavior of cops? When I listen to cops, I fail to believe they ever do. Too many "trust me" statements, that show that they're completely out of touch with the sentiment (ask me for examples from this thread if you want). I admit that I'm downright fearful of cops (rational or not) which comes directly from the media I've consumed. Do you have any appreciation, whatsoever, of this fact that you are in a position of being feared by a lot of the people out there?

[Edited on June 15, 2012 at 1:23 PM. Reason : ]

6/15/2012 1:22:23 PM

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"Only had it happen once, they ended up getting arrested. "

LMAO! We need to hear more about this.

[Edited on June 15, 2012 at 3:05 PM. Reason : ]

6/15/2012 3:05:28 PM

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"How do the police catch pawn shops who don't properly document things like electronics with serial numbers to ensure they aren't stolen?"

Not really sure if there is a way. But most of the pawn shops I deal w/ will call us if they think something is fishy because they don't want the trouble.

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"Do cops ever read the articles, reddit threads, watch the news, watch the youtube videos, or whatever else documents (perhaps fear mongers) the bad behavior of cops? "

I do. Some of the videos/articles I face palm at the officers, some are good training, and some the public would never understand.

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"LMAO! We need to hear more about this."

Maybe in a few weeks.

6/15/2012 4:48:28 PM

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"How would you rate RPD as far as being corrupt? What about Wake Forest PD and Rolesville PD? I went to high school in Wake Forest/Rolesville and those cops were colossal douchebags. I had several friends in HS get pulled over and ticketed in Rolesville for going 1 over the speed limit. I was curious what RPD officers thought of them."

I too went to WFR - but I've never had a bad experience with WF cops. They've always been really nice and the exact opposite of colossal doucebags.

And I don't think I've ever even seen a Rolesville cop - how many are there, 3?

6/15/2012 8:16:19 PM

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"if you're speeding and somebody gets behind you doing the same speed, do you ever pull them?""

that would seem like a shitty thing to do, pulling someone for doing the same shit you are?

i had a raleigh cop do that shit to me once, but he let me go. he said he was on his way to a wreck, which i think was his way to justify speeding, except that he had time to pull me and then sit at a stop light.

6/15/2012 8:50:01 PM

Being that you read TWW and people do illegal shit like smoke pot, why have you not busted them?

6/15/2012 8:59:12 PM

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"that would seem like a shitty thing to do, pulling someone for doing the same shit you are?"

They were traveling about 25 mph faster than I was till they drove past me and slammed on brakes plus I never said how fast I was going or what happened after. There was more than meets the eye.

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"Being that you read TWW and people do illegal shit like smoke pot, why have you not busted them?"

First, the majority of users on here don't live near me. Second, why would I waste time getting subpoenas for IP's, etc, to make some misdemeanor charge?


[Edited on June 15, 2012 at 9:19 PM. Reason : ...]

[Edited on June 15, 2012 at 9:20 PM. Reason : Can't type tonight]

6/15/2012 9:16:43 PM

^They said going the same speed. That's different.

6/15/2012 9:20:22 PM

Not really, never saw them until they hit the breaks, and then they paced me for quite some time.

6/15/2012 9:25:45 PM

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"HIT THE BREAKS"

cop stereotype: reinforced

6/15/2012 9:31:30 PM

If someone has a ccw and a firearm in their car, what is the preferred way to handle this if you get pulled over? Leave the gun where it is and alert the officer to the fact after they approach? or what?

6/15/2012 10:13:56 PM

You wait til the cop gets to the window and then you give him the gun really quick. They love for you to be so helpful like that.

6/15/2012 10:34:55 PM

i thought you were supposed to have it out in your hand with they first walk up.

6/15/2012 10:47:19 PM

fire it in the air out the window, that way they have plenty of warning

6/15/2012 10:49:11 PM

My method is that when stopped, I keep my CHP on top of my license/registration when I hand it out the window.

6/15/2012 11:34:30 PM

I always keep my hands on the steering wheel, or otherwise in plain sight when I'm pulled. I do that because I think if I were a cop, that would be another level of reassurance for them while they are assessing the situation. I also never go digging in my glove compartment until he asks for my license and registration and can see what I'm digging through...

is this a helpful behavior? I've always just assumed it was.

6/16/2012 12:18:39 AM

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"If someone has a ccw and a firearm in their car, what is the preferred way to handle this if you get pulled over? Leave the gun where it is and alert the officer to the fact after they approach? or what?"

Best case is like previously mentioned. Carry your CCW permit with your license and registration and have it on top first thing so that it's the first thing in our conversation. Then hands on the steering wheel the whole time and everyone's at ease...

Like said before, legit CCW holders are 99% of the time squared away and they are the least of our worries.

6/16/2012 10:12:30 AM

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"fire it in the air out the window, that way they have plenty of warning"

I laughed a lot

6/16/2012 10:21:28 AM

What if you are open carrying?

6/16/2012 10:23:13 AM

I remember hearing, maybe in driver's ed (?) that if a cop was speeding without lights/siren that you could legally drive the same speed as they were driving? could be wrong obviously, but i remember it from 15+ years ago

[Edited on June 16, 2012 at 10:30 AM. Reason : VV lulz]

6/16/2012 10:23:20 AM

Why is the Cary Police Animal Control truck in my neighbors driveway?

6/16/2012 10:24:44 AM

say I lived in (where you live) and I was drinking a beer in my yard, and called you a yellow bellied muskrat, would you arrest me?

what if I threw the empty can at your car and then did the prospector dance while screaming "THERES GOLD IM THEM THAR HILLLS"

6/16/2012 10:28:19 AM

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"say I lived in (where you live) and I was drinking a beer in my yard, and called you a yellow bellied muskrat, would you arrest me? what if I threw the empty can at your car and then did the prospector dance while screaming "THERES GOLD IM THEM THAR HILLLS""

I would challenge you to a duel

6/16/2012 10:44:23 AM

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"I remember hearing, maybe in driver's ed (?) that if a cop was speeding without lights/siren that you could legally drive the same speed as they were driving? could be wrong obviously, but i remember it from 15+ years ago"

Ah. Under that infamous "two wrongs make a right" law!

6/16/2012 10:52:21 AM

I have, to this point, not had any problems or bad intereractions with LEO's when OC or CC.

The ones who came to investigate a break in at my old apartment came in to talk to the guy who was home when it occurred, and did not even blink at me sitting in my room at my desk cleaning my pistols, all of which were thankfully locked up in my safe when the thieves tossed the apartment.

The only folks I have trouble with when I open carry are store personnel who don't like OC, even when the store policy allows it, and then 2 folks who I have found who work a sporting goods counter at a Walmart but choose to refuse to ring me up for ammo sales if I am carrying. Gee, I walked in wearing a gun, and a spare magazine clearly in view on a belt, and want to buy 500 rounds of bulk box range ammo. That must make me a scary terrorist criminal mastermind

6/16/2012 11:29:44 PM

I had trouble reading that....

6/16/2012 11:32:31 PM

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"I would challenge you to a duel"

You sir, have affronted my honor! Tomorrow at dawn

6/16/2012 11:34:58 PM

when somebody shouts FUCK THE POLICE do you, like, feel bad and shit

6/16/2012 11:35:46 PM

6/16/2012 11:38:10 PM

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"You sir, have affronted my honor! Tomorrow at dawn"

By the ancient laws of combat, I accept the challenge

6/17/2012 1:08:16 AM

Thanks for answering my questions!

6/17/2012 3:21:36 AM

Is it illegal to use the suicide lane (the both way left turn lane) as a speed-up and merge lane when making a left turn onto a road with said suicide lane?

I've heard that the call most police really hate to have to answer are domestic violence calls... that true?

You mentioned you have pulled people for texting, what about just plain talking on the cellphone (seems so less terrible than it did in the pre-texting days)

6/17/2012 3:41:09 AM

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"I've heard that the call most police really hate to have to answer are domestic violence calls... that true?"

Well yes and no. Domestic calls tend to be the most dangerous "routine" types of calls we respond to, and I hate to use that word because no call is really routine, but I mean that in the sense of a type of call we respond to regularly. Obviously something like an active shooter call is more dangerous, but those are generally few and far between. Domestics happen all the damn time. Statistically I think domestics and traffic stops are probably the two most dangerous activities a cop does on a daily basis, but even a suspicious person encounter can be dangerous.

We tend to not like domestics because its always some kind of Jerry Springer drama. Both people are pissed off, and the person who called expects us to solve years of issues in 20 minutes. Its annoying to give honest helpful advice to a victim about leaving an abusive situation, or getting a 50B (restraining order), and then responding the next day or even the next hour and seeing the same thing you already dealt with. Passions are always high with domestics, kids are often involved, child custody is often involved, and sometimes there is nothing we can do. If there is no PC for an arrest or if no crime has even occured, we cant force people to leave their own homes even if one party is demanding us to remove the other. We usually just ask someone to leave voluntarily until it calms down, unless there is PC to arrest someone. Also with domestics, sometimes the person who called the police can do an instant 180 as soon as you arrive or try to arrest the aggressor. All of a sudden they become lovey dovey and want you to leave their lover boy alone. The most annoying thing to me with domestics though is when you respond to the same damn house for the same damn problem over and over again. Just having to be involved in other people drama can be annoying by itself. However, there are times when you can legitamately help someone or stop an assault, and that makes you feel good.


If you want to know the type of call that annoys me personally the most, just out of sheer stupidity, it is responding to noise complaints or fireworks complaints on the 4th of July or at 12am on New years eve.

6/17/2012 4:27:37 AM

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"I remember hearing, maybe in driver's ed (?) that if a cop was speeding without lights/siren that you could legally drive the same speed as they were driving? could be wrong obviously, but i remember it from 15+ years ago"

Id like to clear this up. Police calls are prioritized as they are recieved by 911. Every call is assigned a priority number. Most CAD sytems (computer aided dispatch) assign calls a number between 0-9. 0 is the highest priority and 9 is a person calling about their neighbors dog barking loudly three weeks ago. A priority 0 call almost always requires a lights and siren emergency response, and a 0 pretty much means a crime in progress. Sometimes a 1 priority can justify an emergency response depending on the situation and nature of the call. Just because a call like a serious 1 or 2 may not justify an emergency response, it still may require the officers to get there as quick as possible. A 1 or 2 could be a heated domestic that hasnt turned into an assualt in progress yet. Sometimes it is nessecary for a cop to speed to get to an important call quickly, and even with an emergency response most cops will cut lights n sirens a few miles out in order to try a stealthier approach. Sometimes we will blue light and siren through a stop light if it is going to take several minutes in order to cut down a response time to a 1 or 2 call. All of our times are recorded and logged, from the time the 911 operator logs and enters the call, to the time it is dispatched, to the time the first unit arrives on scene, so we do try to cut down response times to priority calls.

Do some cops abuse this, yeah maybe, but generally speaking an officer driving fast without lights on is responding to a call or to assist another officer. My personal belief is that driving fast during normal patrol with no where to go is pointless, it doesnt make the 12 hours pass any quicker, and you generally miss things as you pass. I usually drive slow as hell when Im just riding around.

6/17/2012 5:29:35 AM

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"Is it illegal to use the suicide lane (the both way left turn lane) as a speed-up and merge lane when making a left turn onto a road with said suicide lane?"

If it isn't, it should be. That shit makes my blood boil.

[Edited on June 17, 2012 at 6:20 AM. Reason : arrggh]

6/17/2012 6:18:29 AM

that I am not sure of honestly. I never charged anyone with that and hell, I recall my dad teaching me that trick when I was 16 learning to drive.

6/17/2012 6:23:30 AM

That reminds me, in NC, are you allowed to make a right on red arrow? I asked some police officers about it before and they were unsure about their answer.

When you're on the beltline and get off at 298A to head South on 70, there are two lanes there which go to red arrows. People, including myself, always go. But one time there was a cop parked on the grass there and not a single person went. When I lived in MA, right on red arrows were illegal, whereas right on solid reds were fine, so long as there wasn't a sign saying otherwise. Cops aren't usually sitting there, but occasionally there are undercovers in the line waiting to turn, and I don't want to get pulled for something stupid like that.

6/17/2012 6:32:53 AM

It is pretty damn impossible to make it on to Avent Ferry from Mission Valley without using the turn lane as a merge...

6/17/2012 6:46:25 AM

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""Is it illegal to use the suicide lane (the both way left turn lane) as a speed-up and merge lane when making a left turn onto a road with said suicide lane?""

I'll have to look up the statue for this. But I believe I saw this case lost in court because the law actually permits this use for passing as well as a turn lane. I'll need to double check when I have time... But from what I remember, it shouldn't be illegal.

6/17/2012 8:29:21 AM

^^^i'm also interested in this. i've always assumed that you can't turn right on a red arrow...even though i still do it if everyone else is doing it.

[Edited on June 17, 2012 at 8:30 AM. Reason : d]

6/17/2012 8:30:00 AM

The answer is YES, you're allowed to make a right turn with a red arrow, after stopping of course.

6/17/2012 8:32:18 AM

what

how do you guys not know that

if there's no "No turn on Red" you can turn right at any red signal

6/17/2012 8:42:12 AM

Bobble is a fucking know it all

6/17/2012 11:29:37 AM

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"That reminds me, in NC, are you allowed to make a right on red arrow?"

Unless otherwise prohibited by a highway signs, it is. Then again, arrow(s) as directional signals are only mentioned once in G.S. and in reference to steady yellow arrows. Go figure.

6/17/2012 11:44:25 AM

I make rights on red, u turns & left turns on red onto one way streets all day long

Unless there is a sign saying otherwise

I hate the signs with time frames on them. Then I'm sitting there reading the rules, confirming day & time before I know if I can go

Question: have you ever pulled an attractive woman over for something you would have let slide so you could get a closer look?

Another question: what level of joking around do you personally tolerate? I was pulled in Louisiana for crossing over the line into the next lane for a hot second. I was driving a rental car w really loose steering. I got pulled & explained what happened & that I was headed to the airport. Normally I wouldn't joke w an officer but I made a comment along the lines of "I promise I haven't been drinking daiquiris" it's also important to note that it was 2pm & drive through daiquiri shops are prominent in the state. He let me go without a ticket or warning.

[Edited on June 17, 2012 at 11:51 AM. Reason : Skfhksfhhvksdh]

6/17/2012 11:47:02 AM

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"Question: have you ever pulled an attractive woman over for something you would have let slide so you could get a closer look?"

No

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"Another question: what level of joking around do you personally tolerate?"

As long as it seems like they are going to play along as well, I will tolerate a lot. Some people just don't find the police funny at all and I leave them be.

[Edited on June 17, 2012 at 12:02 PM. Reason : ...]

6/17/2012 12:01:44 PM