He's got one year left. He didn't transfer to be a back-up...he could have stayed at Arkansas for that.

Feel a little bad for Pete Thomas (transferred expecting to run a TOB, pro-style offense) and Stocker. But they've had their chance to step up. Ya never know...maybe this lights a fire under their asses and one of them does step up...but I doubt it. Here's to Mr. Mitchell!

5/20/2013 7:26:50 PM

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"He didn't transfer to be a back-up...he could have stayed at Arkansas for that."

He transferred for a shot at being the starter, which he wasn't going to get at Arkansas.

5/20/2013 7:46:40 PM

Not one of them has ever stolen a laptop to my knowledge so I remain skeptical of these QBs.

5/20/2013 8:16:24 PM

I think the situation at Arkansas wasn't as much what he did on the field, as it was a very "Russell Wilson/Mike Glennon" situation. Mitchell and Allen were supposedly in a battle to be the starter. But I don't really think Mitchell had much of a shot unless Allen totally tanked. You have a new coach coming in, and you're looking at starting 1 guy for 1 season that has a little bit of experience but isn't a lock to start, and you have a guy who is a RS-So coming in who you could play for 3 seasons. If you're going to take your lump/growing pains with an inexperienced QB, you're going to spend the time with the guy who you have 3 years left with versus spending time on a 1-year guy to turn around and go through growing pains the next year, can't blame their coaching staff at all for that one.

I'm not saying Mitchell should/would/could have won the starting job outright, I just think he wasn't in a fair fight and he knew it. Here, he has a fair-fight. Our coaching staff knows our starter next year, and he isn't eligible this season. So they know going in that we're going to have a stop-gap year and some growing pains will be there but Thomas/Stocker/Mitchell would all be 1-year starters, so you might as well throw the guy out there with the most talent or who fits your offense the best.

I think Stocker would be smart to transfer out, and I think this offseason the battle will be Pete Thomas vs. Mitchell with Shirreffs basically trying to win the #2 spot or prove he shouldn't use a RS year. Some people even speculated that Shirreffs fit our offense better than either and could win it outright(I find this one highly unlikely but would love to see it). I think Mitchell will get a fair-shake at QB, and that's all he can ask for. I also think IF Mitchell doesn't win the starting job, we will find a way to have him on the field. He'll line-up at WR and be used on trick plays as well(think Randle El for the Steelers a few years back).

I am definitely excited to see the QB battle this Fall, but the future at QB for our team looks a lot better than it has in a while(Brissett and McClendon).

5/21/2013 8:23:25 AM

http://ncstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1507638

videos of Arkansas spring game

5/21/2013 9:56:29 AM

Tough break for Thomas as some of you said. Came here with the hopes of stepping into a pro style offense to show off his arm and skill set. Obviously his lack of mobility makes him rather unhelpful in the new system.

I think one of the best signs concerning Mitchell is the fact that he said he was willing to take punishment by running the ball in our offense. He isn't shying away from the system at all. It is going to be interesting to see how well our offense handles the switch. While it is a change for the skill position players, it has to be a drastic change for the linemen.

5/21/2013 10:47:44 AM

Even with a possible RS year, how long before Stocker transfers with this QB depth?

Mitchell/Thomas - 2013
Brissett/Thomas/Shirreffs - 2014
Brissett/Shirreffs/McClendon - 2015
Shirreffs/McClendon - 2016

I'm not trying to imply Shirreffs will compete with Brissett or McClendon for playing time, just listing for depth illustration.


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5/21/2013 11:13:56 AM

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"I think one of the best signs concerning Mitchell is the fact that he said he was willing to take punishment by running the ball in our offense."

Exactly. The one time I watched Northern Illinois play last year, I came away thinking that their QB was fearless when running the ball. You have to be to run Doeren's offense.

The fact that Mitchell is 6'4 240 lbs means he can take some hits. Plus he played WR for Arkansas last year (caught 20 passes or something like that), so he should be used to contact.

5/21/2013 12:21:23 PM

Wouldn't surprise me to see Thomas and Stocker both elect to transfer. I think Stocker will go first, Pete still at least has a shot at winning the starting job.

5/21/2013 1:00:49 PM

is it out of the question that Thomas could graduate and transfer w/ 2 years to play?

5/21/2013 1:28:12 PM

Opener vs LA Tech (Aug.31) kicking off at 12:30.

5/23/2013 4:36:33 PM

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"The Pack’s opener on August 31 versus Louisiana Tech will mark the first broadcast of the season for the ACC Network and is slated to kick off at 12:30 p.m. The Richmond game on September 7, which will mark the Wolfpack’s annual Military Appreciation Day, will have a 6 p.m. kickoff and will be shown on ESPN3. On Thursday night, September 19, the Pack will face Clemson in a 7:30 clash on ESPN. In addition to those three contests, the Pack will also play host to Central Michigan (9/28), Syracuse (10/12), North Carolina (11/2), East Carolina (11/23) and Maryland (11/30) this season. "

5/23/2013 4:59:45 PM

bout time to get these started:

#99 Joe Wright, Redshirt Freshman, Greenville, NC

6'7" / 232 lbs., reserve at defensive end

5/23/2013 5:02:13 PM

CFN's preview of State for 2013: http://cfn.scout.com/2/1292783.html

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"Tom O’Brien cultivated mediocrity at NC State. So did Chuck Amato and Mike O’Cain before him. Dave Doeren has been brought aboard to change the culture and bring championships to the Pack. In Doeren, the Wolfpack nabbed one of the rising young stars of the coaching ranks. He’s been a success everywhere he’s worked, from a young coordinator at Kansas and Wisconsin to the head coach at Northern Illinois. In two years with the Huskies, he went 23-4, guiding the team to the 2013 Orange Bowl. Doeren maximized the potential in DeKalb. He was hired to do the very same thing in Raleigh. NC State last won an ACC championship in 1979. It’s won 10 games in a season just once in school history. It has never played in one of college football’s marquee bowl games. And yet, the Wolfpack has terrific facilities, a supportive fan base and a recruiting territory that consistently produces NFL talent. So, it’s no wonder that AD Debbie Yow is thinking big going forward. The Pack’s final year under the watchful eye of O’Brien was predictably run-of-the-mill. Seven wins. Six losses. Yeah, there was the shocking upset of Florida State on Oct. 6, but a 38-24 Music City Bowl loss to Vanderbilt was a classic reminder of just how far this program is from its goals. Doeren inherits an average roster of talent by ACC standards. QB Mike Glennon must be replaced, as will three starting offensive linemen and last season’s top four tacklers on defense. That coveted championship run is not likely to occur in 2013. Instead, the new staff will spend much of the year installing new systems on both sides of the ball, and gradually attempting to improve the culture inside the locker room. The one storyline that’ll make the most headlines centers on Glennon’s successor, a tight battle that has Colorado State transfer Pete Thomas holding a slight lead on 2012 backup Manny Stocker. After well over 1,000 games of football, NC State is fittingly just a couple of games above .500. Champs Sports Bowls and third-place finishes in the Atlantic Division were never acceptable in Raleigh. However, now the Pack has gotten serious about its restlessness, hiring a coach it feels can finally get this program closer to the Clemsons and the Florida States of the ACC. What to look for on offense: The receivers to elevate the play of a questionable collection of quarterbacks. Russell Wilson is long gone, and Mike Glennon has joined his predecessor in the NFL. Still, Pete Thomas and Manny Stocker have an edge on recent Pack hurlers, a corps of receivers that'll rank among the most exciting in the ACC. Bryan Underwood and Quinton Payton combined to catch 95 balls and a dozen touchdowns in 2012. And converted defensive back Rashard Smith looks determined to become the best playmaker of the trio. What to look for on defense: The linemen are going to take up squatter's rights in opposing backfields. The Pack is defensively challenged, but not in the trenches. Not only do four starters return, but the coaching staff feels the team will go two-deep with capable starters. Ends Art Norman and Darryl Cato-Bishop, and tackles T.Y. McGill and Thomas Teal combined for 36.5 stops for minus yards and 18.5 sacks a season ago to lay the foundation for an even more disruptive campaign in 2013. This team will be much better if… the secondary vexes experts for a second straight year. In 2012, the loaded NC State defensive backfield surprised for all of the wrong reasons, failing to live up to expectations. Now that three starters are attempting to make NFL rosters, the Pack is determined to flip the script once again. The coaching staff is counting on its two best cornerbacks, senior Dontae Johnson and sophomore Juston Burris, to shorten the field by keeping receivers from getting behind them. The Schedule: With four straight home games to start the season, and five of the first six, the chance is there to get off to a hot start. However, one of the dates against Clemson in the ACC opener. The other downside is the midsection with five road games in seven dates including the brutal road trup to Florida State. Fortunately, the games against the Coastal are against North Carolina at home and Duke - there's no Virginia Tech to deal with. The non-conference slate might be nasty early with Louisiana Tech, and tough late against East Carolina, but overall it's more than manageable. Best Offensive Player: Junior Bryan Underwood. It's not where you start a game that matters. It's where you finish. At least that was the way Underwood operated in 2012. The fact that he started just four games could not keep him from catching 44 balls for 620 yards and 10 touchdowns. He's outstanding at locating soft spots in defenses and coming up with the clutch play, catching the game-winner with 16 seconds left to shock Florida State. Underwood will continue to flourish in a new offense that's searching for good athletes this offseason. Best Defensive Player: Junior DT T.Y. McGill. McGill bloomed into one of the program's most unexpected stars in 2012, laying the groundwork for possible early entry into the 2014 NFL Draft. The 6-1, 293-pounder has many of the base attributes that the staff seeks in a gap-busting tackle, including quick feet and good hands. Despite getting limited reps in 2011, McGill took flight with 39 tackles, 10.5 stops for loss and five sacks. Expectations are soaring for No. 75 in 2013. Key player to a successful season: Senior LT Rob Crisp. No, the former blue-chip recruit won't singlehandedly elevate the play of the O-line, but he could set the tone for the young blockers surrounding him. The Wolfpack was terrible at the point of attack in 2012, and could be even worse this fall now that three of the best blockers have graduated. NC State desperately needs Crisp to stay healthy and lead by example, keeping the new quarterback clean from his blindside. The season will be a success if ... the Pack wins at least seven games, possibly eight. Aggressive considering the modest talent and need for a new quarterback? Not when the schedule is closely reviewed. NC State will play just two teams ranked in the preseason Top 25, Clemson and Florida State. The balance of the slate includes winnable games versus the likes of Louisiana Tech, Richmond, Central Michigan and East Carolina ... all at Carter-Finley Stadium. This is the kind of team that might not be as formidable as its final record indicates. Key game: Oct. 5 at Wake Forest. This is a rivalry game, a swing game and the Pack's first road game of the year ... all rolled into one. The schedule consists of eight home games, most of which will not be out of reach. Every road trip that State can put in the win column puts this team a giant step closer to exceeding expectations in 2013. If this team even splits its four games outside of Raleigh, there's a very good chance that it'll go down as a table-setting first year for head coach Dave Doeren. "

5/26/2013 2:40:49 AM

i like how that objective overview of our team doesnt even mention our starting qb

5/26/2013 3:59:25 AM

^ wat ?

Quote :

"The one storyline that’ll make the most headlines centers on Glennon’s successor, a tight battle that has Colorado State transfer Pete Thomas holding a slight lead on 2012 backup Manny Stocker."

5/26/2013 4:27:19 AM

The hype for that Wake Forest game is going to be INSANE! Can we get a god damn countdown meter in here or what ??

5/26/2013 10:52:43 AM

#98 A.J. Ferguson, Senior, Southport, NC

6'2" / 301 lbs., reserve at Defensive Tackle









[Edited on May 27, 2013 at 10:55 AM. Reason : ]

5/27/2013 10:50:43 AM

I'm still pissed about losing to UVA last year.

5/27/2013 11:58:31 PM

^

If we'd have won that TOB would still be our coach now

5/28/2013 12:07:00 AM

^don't forget the punt to Gio

5/28/2013 1:20:21 AM

the punt to gio sealed it.

5/28/2013 11:58:06 AM

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"^ wat ?"

I think he means the Arkansas transfer

5/28/2013 12:43:46 PM

Steele released his preseason all ACC team... Asa Watson looking strong

http://www.philsteele.com/Blogs/2013/MAY13/DBMay30.html

[Edited on May 30, 2013 at 9:31 AM. Reason : d]

5/30/2013 9:31:02 AM

#97 Forrest West, Redshirt Senior, Canton, CT (Transfer from Colorado)

6'1" / 263 lbs., Starter at Defensive End

5/30/2013 10:20:52 AM

not one player on any of the first or second teams... good grief

5/30/2013 11:28:10 AM

Hard to feel like an "honor" having two 3rd and two 4th teamers. Hard times

5/30/2013 11:32:24 AM

we're talking pre-season here

5/30/2013 11:33:48 AM

you would think we've learned a thing or two about preseason accolades

5/30/2013 11:39:42 AM

IIRC, West got the punt block against FSU.

5/30/2013 12:28:08 PM

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"you would think we've learned a thing or two about preseason accolades"

Exactly.

If we can get any production from the QB spot (Mitchell?), this team could really surprise some people. That's really all this season comes down to.

5/30/2013 12:53:06 PM

Steele is pretty thorough though. Solid analysis. This isn't Skip Bayless we are talking about

5/30/2013 1:20:23 PM

^^^ Correction: the FSU block goes to Mike Rose

5/30/2013 2:33:07 PM

#95 Art Norman, Redshirt Junior, Stone Mountain, GA

6'0" / 243 lbs., Starter at Defensive End

5/31/2013 1:41:00 PM

# 93 Rogers Clark, RS Freshman, Woodberry Forest, VA

6'1" / 255 lbs., Defensive End

6/2/2013 2:30:42 PM

Hope everyone enjoys playing Duke this year, because we won't play them again until 2020.

6/4/2013 2:21:59 PM

The block S fucking me up.

6/4/2013 6:41:08 PM

ACC needs to go to a 9 game conference schedule.

6/4/2013 7:27:52 PM

better?

6/4/2013 7:30:33 PM

you missed one

6/4/2013 10:26:14 PM

God that diamond S logo sucks. Brings back memories of Mike O'Cain

6/5/2013 8:45:24 AM

Jaybee1200 told me to go ahead and post his big news. Scott Thompson named 1st team AA by Steele.

http://www.philsteele.com/Blogs/2013/JUN13/DBJune05.html

6/5/2013 10:34:09 AM

you stole my lead you fuck!!!


you are blackballed from the Long Snapper press corps now buddy... turn in your fedora and "PRESS" card

6/5/2013 10:38:49 AM

I guess I misunderstood that pm. My burst.

6/5/2013 10:42:31 AM

impressive

6/5/2013 10:50:12 AM

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[Edited on June 5, 2013 at 11:10 AM. Reason : bc]

6/5/2013 11:08:54 AM

Longsnapper on 1st team All-American special teams? Ya gotta start somewhere...baby steps.

That being said...hope it doesn't have the Amerson affect where he'll snap the ball over the holder's hands/punter's head 5 times in the first game.

6/5/2013 11:10:58 AM

^
I was around for Grant Dorn. He almost snapped one over the old field house vs Georgia Tech.

6/5/2013 11:13:49 AM

i miss danny young. greatest long snapper ever.

6/5/2013 11:27:12 AM

^^^ has to start better than last year did right??

6/5/2013 11:43:39 AM