Quote :

"what if we had captured him and tried him, maybe a few other officers had died during the capture, maybe not, and our joke of a justice system had found him not guilty"

we have the greatest justice system in the world, warts and all

[Edited on February 13, 2013 at 12:00 AM. Reason : doesn't mean there isn't bullshit involved. but still m]

2/12/2013 11:58:39 PM

I think any navy seal would be insulted if you suggest he couldn't hogtie a barefooted man in a dress and slap him in a helicopter. They did anyway, after they assassinated him.

^ Absolutely! Just ask anyone that's never experienced it.

[Edited on February 12, 2013 at 11:59 PM. Reason : ,]

2/12/2013 11:58:41 PM

i'd rather just kill an admitted murderer like dorner than waste tax payer money on a trial and subsequent jail money (until an inmate, or corrections officer killed him within a couple months anyway) than have CNN and MSNBC and FoxNews and local stations sucking his situations dick until he finally got justly offed

also who cares about detaining UBL? he was pretty clearly guilty of orchestrating thousands of murders, if anybody has sympathy for him you need to reevaluate your values

2/13/2013 12:03:03 AM

What values?

2/13/2013 12:04:07 AM

if you kill somebody for some reason, i think you definitely deserve a trial...maybe it was self defense...maybe it was that you were somehow pushed into a bad situation by society, the courts can decide that (rightly or wrongly)

but when you orchestrate the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians, i have to laugh when you're stumbling around in the dark with no weapon and get a few shots in your head, because you deserve it

if osama was gangster, he wouldve died on one of the 9/11 flights in the cockpit, but he was a pussy and he got killed in his pajamas like a pussy

[Edited on February 13, 2013 at 12:06 AM. Reason : .]

2/13/2013 12:05:53 AM

Lynched men are usually guilty. It doesn't make it right.

2/13/2013 12:21:42 AM

osama bin laden = some black dude killed cause of some racist kkk dude back in the day

great analogy smc

2/13/2013 12:22:34 AM

They had names; Thomas Shipp and Abram Smith. And they were likely guilty of murder. Police participated in the lynching. Seems like something radical muslims might do.

[Edited on February 13, 2013 at 12:30 AM. Reason : .]

2/13/2013 12:26:51 AM

did they orchestrate the killings of thousands of innocent people? i fail to see the relevance

i'm hoping you're at least comparing them to Dorner's death, since any defense of UBL is laughable

[Edited on February 13, 2013 at 12:28 AM. Reason : .]

2/13/2013 12:27:39 AM

An equally relevant example is when notorious crooked cop Wyatt Earp shot three outlaws at the OK Corral.

2/13/2013 12:34:34 AM

It's an excellent example, actually. The Earps faced a preliminary hearing for murder(they allegedly shot men that had surrendered) though the judge ultimately declined to allow the trial to proceed. Apparently a wealthy California ski resort town with the full support of hundreds of state and federal agents is still the wild west.


More damning audio discussing fire:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNk-bV40XMc

Cleaned up clip:
http://yourlisten.com/channel/content/16951871/Burn_It_Down

The news anchor's response makes me the saddest.

Quote :

"Seven burners deployed and we have a fire!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCdqybEfy9w#!

[Edited on February 13, 2013 at 1:11 AM. Reason : .]

2/13/2013 12:42:19 AM

At 3:00 in that last video you can hear them cheering as he blows his brains out. The supervisor then admonishes them to "keep your discipline".

At some point some hidden camera footage will emerge from this and all hell will break loose.

At 3:58 they are asking about bring in the fire trucks and the guy responds, "Give us some time here, we're not quite there. I still have the 2-3 corner that is, uh, vulnerable"

[Edited on February 13, 2013 at 1:24 AM. Reason : .]

2/13/2013 1:17:24 AM

a deranged murderer killed himself

oh noes!

smc i'm sure you would totally have this guy's back when he signed up for the LAPD

[Edited on February 13, 2013 at 1:23 AM. Reason : hypocrite]

2/13/2013 1:20:03 AM

if the media goes along with the "we dont know how the fire started" bullshit the cops are saying then it will give a shit ton of creditability to the conspiracy theorist knuckle draggers imo

2/13/2013 3:00:55 AM

we know how the fire started, tear gas grenades are incendiary

2/13/2013 7:10:24 AM

can someone link a source where the cops are saying they don't know how the fire started?

2/13/2013 7:28:23 AM

yeah, last night the spokesperson for the cops said the fire was from the tear gas

they held the fire department back because of live ammo still going off

in relation to police/swat operations, I would like to know what they mean by: vulnerable, penetration, and burners



[Edited on February 13, 2013 at 7:38 AM. Reason : .]

2/13/2013 7:29:53 AM

the long LA Times writeup fails to mention that

the standard line across several news outlets is just "a fire broke out"

interesting

2/13/2013 7:35:41 AM

okay so "burners" is police slang for gas canisters, so that makes sense. the fire started because of tear gas.

still curious about what they mean by having adequate penetration, assuming vulnerable just means still dangerous

^last night Fox and CNN both said it was tear gas, and whatever "experts" they had on the phone said the same

[Edited on February 13, 2013 at 7:43 AM. Reason : .]

2/13/2013 7:42:39 AM

The cops shot nearly as many people as Dorner did, while pursuing their suspect. And burned down 1 more cabin than Dorner did.

2/13/2013 8:06:04 AM

2/13/2013 8:13:06 AM

yeah i think those cops that shot the civilians because they "mistook" them for dorner or dorner's truck should be prosecuted.

2/13/2013 8:14:51 AM

Adequate penetration

2/13/2013 9:04:15 AM

Quote :

"The cops shot nearly as many people as Dorner did, while pursuing their suspect. And burned down 1 more cabin than Dorner did."

Dorner killed 4 people (2 execution style) and wounded 3 others, plus took 2 hostages. The cops wounded 2 old ladies.

Very comparable.

2/13/2013 9:17:43 AM

...so it sounds like we are in agreement that the cops shot nearly as many people as Dorner did, while pursuing their suspect. And burned down 1 more cabin than Dorner did.

You raise a good point though, in that its not comparable.... Apparently Dorner was a much more accurate marksman than the cops were. I'm sure those two Hispanic women are at least grateful that the cops were lousy shots...

2/13/2013 9:28:43 AM

And this is why only cops should have guns. Because concealed carriers would miss and hit innocent bystanders, but cops do not.

2/13/2013 9:30:35 AM

Over/under on Dorner having a CCW?

2/13/2013 9:49:24 AM

What do you think the odds are that the bodfdy isn't Dorner's?

[Edited on February 13, 2013 at 9:51 AM. Reason : sdfs]

2/13/2013 9:50:25 AM

$texas:1

2/13/2013 9:55:09 AM

dorner is currently in mexico

the body and driver license were planted in the cabin, prior to him strategically burning it down and escaping across the border to live in anonymity

2/13/2013 9:57:00 AM

The whole Manhunt-->cabin burning down thing is like season 2 of dexter with Chris Dorner as Sgt. Doakes (loosely).


Also, I wonder if LL Cool J's agent is already on the phone with producers angling for the lead role when the movie is made. If not, Cool James should fire his agent immediately.

[Edited on February 13, 2013 at 10:25 AM. Reason : .]

2/13/2013 10:25:13 AM

You really think he'd have a shot over The Rock?

2/13/2013 10:28:43 AM

I thought The Rock only did kid movies these days.

2/13/2013 10:31:42 AM

At least he does movies. LL does NCIS. Call me when Chris O'Donnell is back on the A list.

2/13/2013 10:34:17 AM

The Rock isnt black?

2/13/2013 10:34:57 AM

"His father is of Black Nova Scotian (Canadian) origin, and his mother has Samoan heritage."

2/13/2013 10:46:46 AM

I stand corrected

2/13/2013 10:49:35 AM

video
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57569058/cbs-reporter-caught-near-gun-battle-with-ex-cop/

2/13/2013 11:09:23 AM

Quote :

"...so it sounds like we are in agreement that the cops shot nearly as many people as Dorner did, while pursuing their suspect. And burned down 1 more cabin than Dorner did. "

2 is nearly as many as 7?

Damn, EMCE, I didn't know you are this bad at math.

2/13/2013 11:10:28 AM

lol at the jeans and sneakers clan

2/13/2013 11:15:06 AM

^^They shot three innocent people, two died.

2/13/2013 11:23:36 AM

I just came here to say that I can't wait for the movie

2/13/2013 11:28:17 AM

You guys don't really think Dorner is dead, do you? #aliens

2/13/2013 11:29:02 AM

The movie will be horrendous because it'll be a Lifetime Network joint.

2/13/2013 11:30:50 AM

Nah he's totally alive

2/13/2013 11:31:26 AM

not to defend Dorner at all because certainly killing the police seargant's daughter and her husband are completely indefensible.

That doesn't mean the LAPD acted any better throughout the manhunt.

yeah 2 women were shot. It's pretty much by luck that more weren't shot because more were shot at.

Neighbors near the shooting of the newspaper delivery women had bullets hit their vehicles and homes. http://articles.latimes.com/2013/feb/08/local/la-me-torrance-shooting-20130209

" the street was pockmarked with bullet holes in cars, trees, garage doors and roofs. Residents said they wanted to know what happened. “How do you mistake two Hispanic women, one who is 71, for a large black male?” said Richard Goo, 62, who counted five bullet holes in the entryway to his house."

Another man in a truck was shot at just 30 minutes after the two women were shot: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-torrance-shooting-20130210,0,3955268.story

and though he wasn't hit with a bullet, they rammed his car, and he did sustain injuries from the crash.


Again, all available information absolutely points to Chris Dorner being a fucking murderer, and based on the events leading up to last night, deadly force was justified. Even if everything he claims is true-- his actions had no merit.

however, the LAPD acted with such disregard for the citizens they were supposed to protect that people in the area were far more scared of being shot by the cops than Dorner. Fuck them too.

Quote :

"^^They shot three innocent people, two died."

can't find any reference to two people dying. Source?

[Edited on February 13, 2013 at 11:36 AM. Reason : .]

2/13/2013 11:35:40 AM

i hope he is alive

that would be an awesome twist

2/13/2013 11:39:23 AM

It really is telling that the general public was more worried about being harmed by the cops than the deranged murderer on the loose.

2/13/2013 11:41:40 AM

^^^

2/13/2013 11:42:27 AM

^4 You are correct, no civilian deaths yet, just injuries.

2/13/2013 11:44:45 AM