THE MEDIA

THE SOCIAL MEDIA

HOW SOCIETY IS NOW

[Edited on August 15, 2014 at 9:37 AM. Reason : Peace, we outta here.]

8/15/2014 9:36:03 AM

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"This shit and all the talk around it is getting ridiculous. If the cop did what he is being accused of he needs to go on trial and be sent to prison. All the people who decided to loot should have been what the cops focused on and locked them up and let any peaceful protests go on without this show of force. People are just fucking stupid as usual and shit gets over blown by the media adding fuel to the fire. People cant ever wait for any type of process to play out anymore they demand instant justice or retribution, but I guess with social media and the like thats how society is now."

I don't think the media over blew anything. This shit began to escalate Sunday night. It really didn't seem to gain much national attention in the media and news outlets until later this week...particularly Wednesday evening, IIRC.

[Edited on August 15, 2014 at 9:37 AM. Reason : a]

8/15/2014 9:36:48 AM

Yeah I suppose, I guess that is more a blanket statement of how most of these stories go. I just get sick of seeing stuff like this I guess. Something happens and people expect some immediate response. I don't care if the guy who did it was the biggest dick on the force when you have people rioting and looting you dont just go release the guys name to appease people so they can go after the guy or his family.

Yes it sucks and sounds like this guy abused his power and took a kids life for no real reason. However, people need to let the process play out so long as it is being done in a reasonable time frame. Let the police do their job and get all the facts they can before they string a guy up and ruin his life. You dont walk up to someone and he says yeah I saw him shoot the kid and thats case closed.

8/15/2014 9:43:26 AM

the only thing not newsworthy about this event is the original brutality, and only because it happens every single day. the national media didn't even pick up the story until they were dragged into it on Wednesday night and could no longer ignore it, the police escalation was why this became a national story.

8/15/2014 9:43:54 AM

Holy Shit, is Smath and others still completely justifying and dismissing everything that has occured because there was some looting and a few beer bottles of flaming gasoline were thrown? I can't even understand that. It's sad, and quite honestly, infuriating.

8/15/2014 9:44:40 AM

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"This shit and all the talk around it is getting ridiculous. If the cop did what he is being accused of he needs to go on trial and be sent to prison. All the people who decided to loot should have been what the cops focused on and locked them up and let any peaceful protests go on without this show of force. People are just fucking stupid as usual and shit gets over blown by the media adding fuel to the fire. People cant ever wait for any type of process to play out anymore they demand instant justice or retribution, but I guess with social media and the like thats how society is now.... Yes it sucks and sounds like this guy abused his power and took a kids life for no real reason. However, people need to let the process play out so long as it is being done in a reasonable time frame. Let the police do their job and get all the facts they can before they string a guy up and ruin his life. You dont walk up to someone and he says yeah I saw him shoot the kid and thats case closed"

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8/15/2014 9:46:26 AM

froshkiller is trying way too hard to be cool in this thread

"peace bro,"

idiot

christ almighty though dtownral just nailed it. horrifying

8/15/2014 9:48:11 AM

hey my name is HUR and i think posting [/thread] means anything at all

it certainly doesn't make me look a cock

I'M DONE DISCUSSING THIS GUYS BECAUSE I AGREE WITH ANOTHER POST

YOU GUYS

STOP TALKING YOU GUYS

I SAID I WAS DONE

8/15/2014 9:48:36 AM

^^^that's all true. but the scary thing is that we'll probably never really know what went down because the police have the power to cover it up and escape justice. and it'll just continue to happen.

[Edited on August 15, 2014 at 9:49 AM. Reason : ]

8/15/2014 9:49:13 AM

if you knew anything about me, y0willy0

you would know that every time i get the first post on a new page, i post that as an edit

it has no contextual value in any thread, let alone this one

8/15/2014 9:49:33 AM

Darren Wilson.

8/15/2014 9:50:37 AM

p.s. i'm the idiot

all these fucking cocksuckers in this thread, i'm the idiot

these cop-loving, black-hating man-children

i'm the idiot

i'm the idiot everybody

8/15/2014 9:51:20 AM

lets rephrase and say "youre an idiot"

better

8/15/2014 9:54:43 AM

Darren Wilson shot Michael Brown

8/15/2014 10:07:45 AM

I don't think the way people act have really changed. I blame instant access to information. Nothing has time to settle down before getting to the idiot public. 20 years ago, the looting would have been over and done with by the time most people read the newspaper (paper) headlines.

8/15/2014 10:17:18 AM

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"a kid was killed, a militarized police force took over a town and overreacted about as badly as a police force can, journalists (and the St. Louis alderman) were arrested for reporting from the scene "

...but all Smath can post about is the looting. Typical Smath.

8/15/2014 10:20:34 AM

...and the Molotov cocktail

8/15/2014 10:24:25 AM

So the PD is saying the kid was a suspect in an armed robbery??? Why did it take five days to come out with that?

This is getting weird..

Um wow...

https://twitter.com/pzfeed/status/500291005506400257

[Edited on August 15, 2014 at 10:42 AM. Reason : X]

8/15/2014 10:41:07 AM

OH SNAP the cop is black.

8/15/2014 10:41:27 AM

If true, that adds another wrinkle, but really shouldn't make a difference.

8/15/2014 10:44:49 AM

^^I was just tryna explain that possibility yesterday.

[Edited on August 15, 2014 at 10:46 AM. Reason : sss]

8/15/2014 10:45:12 AM

it shouldnt but it will

the collective popping of some disgusting bubble will reverberate the rest of the week

8/15/2014 10:45:49 AM

Doesn't justify shooting an unarmed person if true, however will make the argument that the kid was going after the officers gun at least more believable in court.

8/15/2014 10:48:23 AM

armed robbery? what did he do...ditch the gun?

8/15/2014 10:50:09 AM

It does look like he uses his arms in the robbery...

Makes you wonder if maybe the guy who called in the robbery claimed the guy was armed and the police were going on that and will claim they had suspicion he was armed.

[Edited on August 15, 2014 at 10:52 AM. Reason : .]

8/15/2014 10:51:34 AM

http://www.google.com/

post hoc ergo propter hoc

i'm feeling lucky

[Edited on August 15, 2014 at 10:54 AM. Reason : ///]

8/15/2014 10:54:45 AM

At the least you can't question the officer for stopping him if true..

8/15/2014 10:56:30 AM

i dont think they actually confirmed the officer was black

ive seen at least one website retract the claim because they found 'the wrong darren wilson'

8/15/2014 10:57:04 AM

I mean surely that cant be true, if it is then all eye witness accounts are thrown out seeing as they all said the officer was white...

8/15/2014 11:00:39 AM

y0willy0 still missing the point

8/15/2014 11:01:04 AM

So the police are saying that he fit the description of a robbery suspect that was phoned in minutes before the shooting... It is odd that this is just coming out.

8/15/2014 11:02:37 AM

He robbed a store. Still doesnt make it ok to murder him.

8/15/2014 11:04:43 AM

what about the other "suspect"

8/15/2014 11:08:20 AM

It turns out that guy kept showing up at the protests, and the cops were actually shooting rubber bullets and tear gas at him specifically to protect the crowds.

8/15/2014 11:10:49 AM

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"So the police are saying that he fit the description of a robbery suspect that was phoned in minutes before the shooting... It is odd that this is just coming out."

This goes back to what I was saying about giving the police a chance to complete a process. If they came out right afterwards and gave this info and it turned out not to be true then they look really bad. Instead, they made sure they had some evidence before just firing that info out into the public. Can't really blame them for that in the end thats what they should be doing.

8/15/2014 11:14:25 AM

Eh, it probably could have quelled some of the outrage. Although it still, in no way justfies killing the guy if he was unarmed. Especially if he was 25 feet away. Especially if he was turning around and raising his hands (if that is, in fact, what happened. I haven't followed the details too closely, as I know that we have no way of knowing if the details are true right now).

It just seems like they were waiting to make sure they had a good story which would justify the kid's killing. That may not be the case, but it really comes across that way.

And as all the other details, none of this excuses the police actions after the killing in any way.

[Edited on August 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM. Reason : ]

8/15/2014 11:18:55 AM

IT WAS PERCY FROM THE GREEN MILE

HE DID IT

8/15/2014 11:21:30 AM

Instead, they made sure they had some evidence

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" before just firing "

8/15/2014 11:48:21 AM

open and shut case, Johnson.

8/15/2014 11:50:36 AM

48.99 for a box of swisher sweets? who is the real criminal here?

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2014/images/08/15/ferguson-police-report.pdf?hpt=hp_t1

8/15/2014 12:13:44 PM

TLDR, are they saying the suspects were armed and only stole a box of cigars?

[Edited on August 15, 2014 at 12:45 PM. Reason : no proof he was the suspect]

8/15/2014 12:41:14 PM

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"2. Reject the “He Was a Good Kid” narrative and lift up the “Black Lives Matter” narrative. Michael Brown was a good kid, by accounts of those who knew him during his short life. But that’s not why his death is tragic. His death isn’t tragic because he was a sweet kid on his way to college next week. His death is tragic because he was a human being and his life mattered. The Good Kid narrative might provoke some sympathy but what it really does is support the lie that as a rule black people, black men in particular, have a norm of violence or criminal behavior. The Good Kid narrative says that this kid didn’t deserve to die because his goodness was the exception to the rule. This is wrong. This kid didn’t deserve to die because he was a human being and black lives matter."

http://janeewoods.com/2014/08/14/becoming-a-white-ally-to-black-people-in-the-aftermath-of-the-michael-brown-murder/

8/15/2014 12:42:21 PM

Dorian Johnson's story about having just met up with Mike a couple minutes ago and getting stopped for Jaywalking just went out the window.

8/15/2014 1:14:35 PM

this doesn't throw out his narrative or the other witnesses

8/15/2014 1:18:59 PM

^^What are you basing that on? You may have a point, but as often the case, you seem to just be stating your assumptions as fact with no real proof.


Are you saying that because the police are now releasing a statment that say he was a suspect in a robbery? Because that doesn't prove anything.

[Edited on August 15, 2014 at 1:21 PM. Reason : ]

8/15/2014 1:19:03 PM

eleusis knows

8/15/2014 1:19:52 PM

Not really. May not have told it to the cameras but...

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"“We see that there’s tape, that they claim they got a tape that shows there was some sort of strong-armed robbery,” said Freeman Bosley, Johnson’s attorney. “We need to see that tape, my client did tell us and told the FBI that they went into the store. He told FBI that he did take cigarillos, he told that to the DOJ and the St. Louis County Police.”"

From his lawyer

8/15/2014 1:19:53 PM

If the shoe fits, wear it. Explains why Brown was stopped. I guess the lingering questions now are the details of the scuffle and actual shooting (from more sources, other than the emotionally charged assumptions by eye witnesses on Youtube).

I wouldn't want to be Darren Wilson right now. This is a double-edged sword. Seppuku! (Actually, now that I think about it, Zimmerman didn't do so bad for himself, so Wilson might be fine).

This whole event did shed some light on our police state. Oh wait, there's already a thread about that in Soap Box.

[Edited on August 15, 2014 at 1:25 PM. Reason : meh]

8/15/2014 1:24:17 PM

It's not just an assumption when Dorian has admitted as much to his own attorney. He lied about the first part of his story, and that's going to be damaging to his credibility on the back half of his story.

It still doesn't explain why the cop shot him 6 times, but it puts a serious snag in the narrative of an innocent gentle giant being harassed by the cops for no reason prior to the shooting.

[Edited on August 15, 2014 at 1:28 PM. Reason : cop probably shot him for wearing those socks.]

8/15/2014 1:27:41 PM

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" narrative of an innocent gentle giant being harassed by the cops for no reason "

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"2. Reject the “He Was a Good Kid” narrative and lift up the “Black Lives Matter” narrative. Michael Brown was a good kid, by accounts of those who knew him during his short life. But that’s not why his death is tragic. His death isn’t tragic because he was a sweet kid on his way to college next week. His death is tragic because he was a human being and his life mattered. The Good Kid narrative might provoke some sympathy but what it really does is support the lie that as a rule black people, black men in particular, have a norm of violence or criminal behavior. The Good Kid narrative says that this kid didn’t deserve to die because his goodness was the exception to the rule. This is wrong. This kid didn’t deserve to die because he was a human being and black lives matter."

8/15/2014 1:29:57 PM