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Beethoven
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And it wasn't just Lacey. It's Lacey (unexpected and biggest blow), Turner (known) and Washington (unexpected), without the boon of a great incoming transfer.

By all means, we can still have a great year next year. But there's no reason to be surprised we aren't going into it ranked.

5/13/2015 3:33:50 PM

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Hopefully Henderson (and one or both of the twins) will be able to fill in for Turner fairly seemlessly, and while I hate that Washington left, he really wasn't giving us much the last half of the season (with the exception of a few games), and I think we'll be fine with freeman, anya, abu (and maybe kirk)..... but Lacey leaving really hurts and we really don't have anybody to fill-in for him. He was our best player, was going to be our back-up pg, and probably playing close to 40 minutes a game.

(i know it's very unlikely, but i wonder if corchiani jr. will ever be able to provide any quality back-up minutes?)

[Edited on May 13, 2015 at 3:41 PM. Reason : ]

5/13/2015 3:40:01 PM

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(no)

5/13/2015 4:52:30 PM

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(no)

5/13/2015 4:57:40 PM

wolfpack2105
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somebody post the gottfried/steve austin beer smash gif. I know somebody got it around here somewhere

5/13/2015 5:46:23 PM

wolfpack2105
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nevermind, found it:

5/13/2015 6:21:41 PM

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You guys are really missing the value of outside shooting. Its one thing to lose 3 scorers but we lost our 3 most reliable outside shooters. Spacing is going to be shit next year unless someobe comes out of nowhere with a new shot.

[Edited on May 13, 2015 at 8:14 PM. Reason : theres a difference between guys who can make 3s and guys who have to be gameplanned like turner]

[Edited on May 13, 2015 at 8:25 PM. Reason : funny our identity should be great d next year. we are basically pitt now.]

5/13/2015 8:12:51 PM

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I would say we lost two of our three most reliable shooters. Cat has to be in the group of 3 and he is coming back. We need Henderson to be a stud from deep or our offense could struggle.

5/13/2015 10:04:13 PM

jbrick83
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^^ who's the third?? Washington? You can't be a reliable shooter when you might get a "DNP Coach's Decision" every other game.

[Edited on May 13, 2015 at 10:44 PM. Reason : .]

5/13/2015 10:44:22 PM

TreeTwista10
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maybe Staats? haha

5/13/2015 10:49:59 PM

Clifton
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Who is this E Man? How isn't he on constant suspension watch?

5/13/2015 10:51:54 PM

TreeTwista10
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#sthasnomods

5/13/2015 10:55:42 PM

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Sorry for realizing the affect outside shooters have on offense in general. I know many of you think games are played in a vacuum and stat sheets tell everything so Suspend me for knowing basketball if thats a suspendable offense. Please. Then theres so many people on here that don't want to discuss sports and rather just talk about suspending people.

Washington may not have been a great shooter, but he was a great shooting big, you had to guard him, and he was quite consistent especially with the baseline jumper. Hell, he shot over 50% from 3 last year. That kind of thing from a 4 WORKS WONDERS for floor spacing.

A lot of Cat's shooting success can be credited to people playing off him to respect his drive. People won't have to play off Cat because without so many prolific shooters, they can rely on help.

5/13/2015 11:19:11 PM

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The most floor washington spaced out was between himself and his defender as they were laying the ball in the basket. Sure, Washington is a good shooter for a 4, but hes so bad at everything else, did it really even out?

5/13/2015 11:41:37 PM

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Washington lost hurt us, but the Kirk kid reminds be a lot of him. I think Washington has a good shot at going pro regardless of where he ends up. He has a good work ethic he just needs to play with his head more. I agree that Washington jumper was very reliable he just needed to hone up his defensive skills more and polish up his post moves/passes.

5/14/2015 1:10:25 AM

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http://www.sportingnews.com/list/4644226-ranking-college-basketball-top-25-teams-preseason-unc-kansas-maryland/slide/323025

#14

5/14/2015 10:02:52 AM

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a 4 that spaces the floor is good for an offense, yes

however, kyle washington didnt space the floor because nobody guarded him. every single shot he took outside of 12 feet was wide open because teams didnt care

5/14/2015 10:16:04 AM

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Problem with Washington and Painter were that, at times, they were offensive black-holes.

I think they were so desperate to be a bigger part of the offense, that they'd take any shot they got. If they were hitting their shot, then they were huge, but if they were off, they didn't stop forcing shots.

Washington, at times, would play like that dude at the Y that thought he was the best scorer on the court and would try to dominate the ball anytime his team passed it to him. So eventually the team just stops passing the ball to that guy.

5/14/2015 10:20:44 AM

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"Washington lost hurt us, but the Kirk kid reminds be a lot of him. "

umm... what? how?

5/14/2015 11:20:04 AM

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"Its one thing to lose 3 scorers but we lost our 3 most reliable outside shooters. Spacing is going to be shit next year unless someobe comes out of nowhere with a new shot."


bruh, we lost our top 5 shooters from last year - turner, lacey, washington, staats, and patrick wallace. come on e man

5/14/2015 12:11:16 PM

fenway
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Not sure where else to put this:

http://twitter.com/NeillWoelk/status/608018850760650752/photo/1

Charles Shackelford has company now though.

6/8/2015 7:02:17 PM

KyleAtState
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So has Washington announced where he is transferring to?

6/8/2015 8:00:32 PM

spencer
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"New this year: @NardFreeman_ getting his @1richowell on this season rocking # 1! #Feathery "


i can tell by the pixels

6/12/2015 3:46:25 PM

KyleAtState
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^Also had surgery on a broken leg out 3-4 months

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The Wolfpacker ?@TheWolfpacker 41m41 minutes ago

NCSU announced Lennard Freeman had surgery to heal fracture in lower right leg. Will resume hoops activity in 3-4 months.
"


[Edited on June 12, 2015 at 4:27 PM. Reason : ]

6/12/2015 4:26:54 PM

cptinsano
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Surgery is risky. Don't want to mess with that 4" vertical.

6/12/2015 6:30:25 PM

spencer
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rumor on PP is that Freeman may redshirt, which makes the Washington transfer real confusing (assuming he knew Nard was hurt)

6/19/2015 1:45:49 PM

spencer
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rumor on PP is that Freeman may redshirt, which makes the Washington transfer real confusing (assuming he knew Nard was hurt)

6/19/2015 1:45:49 PM

The E Man
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maybe he wanted to play inside and we will probably be moving to 4 around anya with a jumpshooting 4. and abu as the only backup.

6/19/2015 2:40:40 PM

justinh524
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I wouldn't say it makes it confusing. It was pretty obvious that Washington didn't fit with what the coaches wanted out of the big men. An injury to Freeman doesn't change that.

6/19/2015 2:41:57 PM

GenghisJohn
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high post definitely wants a shooting 4

[Edited on June 19, 2015 at 3:34 PM. Reason : .]

6/19/2015 3:34:35 PM

natureboy
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Not sure why he would redshirt. I thought broken bones typically healed pretty fast.

6/19/2015 11:26:37 PM

The E Man
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If he redshirts hell be able to come in and start once abu leaves early for the d league

6/19/2015 11:59:59 PM

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"high post definitely wants a shooting 4"


Isn't that exactly what Kyle is?

6/20/2015 12:35:25 AM

Ribs
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Turner added to the Hornet's summer league team.

7/1/2015 10:46:41 AM

fenway
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Gott had his summer presser today:

- Cat has gotten better with his outside shooting. Gott sounds like he expects a huge year out of him.
- Caleb Martin/Cody Martin/Henderson are the options as backups to Cat at PG.
- Cody Martin could play all 5 positions at times this year. Really versatile.
- Freeman back in September or early October after his shin surgery.
- Anya hasn't lost the weight they were hoping he'd lose once the season ended.
- Kirk is raw, but a great athlete.

7/7/2015 3:56:39 PM

Ribs
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Anybody know what happened to Mox? Gott said no time table for his return in the presser.

7/7/2015 7:29:47 PM

TreeTwista10
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"Freeman back in September or early October after his shin surgery."


so it sounds like he should be back over a month before the season starts

can't believe a PP rumor wasn't correct!

7/7/2015 7:49:48 PM

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http://www.wralsportsfan.com/gottfried-optimistic-about-new-look-pack/14760032/

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"Lennard Freeman, who after complaining about soreness in his shin, had surgery in June where a rod was put in his right leg from his knee cap to ankle.

“It won’t be until mid-September, October 1 until he is cleared to play,” said Gottfried."


Quote :
"BeeJay Anya’s weight

“It does not start with a ‘2,’” Gottfried said of the junior center’s weight. The head coach said that Anya knows he still needs to improve in that area.

“It’s a tired subject for me.”"

7/8/2015 8:56:53 AM

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I saw recent pictures of Anya, he didn't look 300+ lbs to me, but perhaps it was just a good picture. I wonder how Anya feels that Gott is always asked about his weight and the answer is always "it's not where we want it to be" and "he'll be a great player if he ever gets his conditioning right."

Much like Warren was the key to our team 2 years ago, and Lacey was the key to our team last year, there is 0 doubt that Barber is the key to the team this year. He struggles, we struggle. He goes down, we go down. Sounds like the coaches are really high on him, think in the presser he even mentioned Barber could easily play his way into a "high draft pick". Sounds like he's really improving.

Just because Freeman is cleared for Oct. 1, doesn't mean he'll be in playing-shape or be ready to go 100%. I think the rumors of redshirt are probably still true since it's still a possibility if there are any setbacks in healing or getting into playing shape.

7/8/2015 9:03:38 AM

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"I wonder how Anya feels that Gott is always asked about his weight and the answer is always "it's not where we want it to be" and "he'll be a great player if he ever gets his conditioning right.""


He ought to be fucking pissed at himself...fat fuck. Put down the pizza and pick up the salad fork dumbass. If I were his age with the opportunity to play professional basketball for my job, I'd eat fucking insects if that's what they wanted me to do.

7/8/2015 9:26:28 AM

fenway
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"Waddell: "We are in the process of installing public wifi in the arena." #StateoftheCanes #Summerfest"


From the Hurricanes twitter feed.

7/11/2015 11:32:18 AM

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Non-Conference Schedule Released:

http://www.gopack.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/071715aab.html

Bold games are at home.

William and Mary
IUPUI (Legends Classic)
South Alabama (Legends Classic)
Arizona State (Legends Classic) Brooklyn, NY - really wish they still had Herb
LSU or Marquette (Legends Classic) Brooklyn, NY
Winthrop
Michigan - Big Ten Challenge
Bucknell
South Florida
High Point
Mizzou
UNCG
Northeastern

[Edited on July 17, 2015 at 3:01 PM. Reason : List]

7/17/2015 2:55:18 PM

ncsuallday
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Kinda weak schedule. Not very exciting for season ticket holders either. All of these are winnable, though. I'd hate to match up with LSU again. The Michigan and Mizzou games should be fun to watch.

Maybe Gott is expecting a down year and didn't want to go so heavy on the non-con. Or maybe our ACC schedule is going to be tough enough alone.

7/17/2015 3:03:36 PM

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^^^^ keep that shit to yourself asshole

7/17/2015 3:13:13 PM

GingaNinja
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^
Who urinated in your cereal this morning? I think he made a fair comment, though I disagree with it.

[Edited on July 17, 2015 at 5:29 PM. Reason : ]

7/17/2015 5:28:57 PM

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We can do without the name-calling. Not a good look.

7/17/2015 5:38:13 PM

TreeTwista10
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get off my lawn

7/17/2015 5:38:49 PM

tower
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feel like we've been headed in the direction of freeman redshirting with cody playing the 4 for a while now

also expect come november there will be a panic button pushed and suddenly he wont be redshirting anymore

7/17/2015 6:13:24 PM

NCSUStinger
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10-3(min) or fuck this season right off the bat

7/17/2015 8:19:38 PM

natureboy
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I agree this seems like a lot weaker schedule than Gottfried has usually had us play.

7/17/2015 9:42:40 PM

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