move the Ravens to LA as punishment

5/31/2015 10:01:27 AM

Quote :

"The immediate problem is the result of two issues: 1) the police are on a slowdown, and 2) when the police are on a slowdown, it's go time for crime. It's kinda awesome. "

awesome huh? How awesome would it be for you to walk out to your car one day and have the window busted in and all your shit gone? or hell, your car to not even be there anymore?

How awesome would it be for you to come home and the door busted in and every physical item you have that you think is valuable is gone?

How awesome would it be for you to be walking back to your car from a restaurant one evening to be held at gunpoint and robbed of everything you have on you?

Its a sick combination of sad, stupid and ignorant to think that way.

[Edited on May 31, 2015 at 10:34 AM. Reason : sdf]

5/31/2015 10:31:49 AM

The times that I've played crime victim were devestating. I did not like it or think it was awesome.

But I'm still childish in that I like the notion of lawlessness. I also think now would be a good time for folks to handle people that the law hasn't been able to handle for them.

5/31/2015 11:01:19 AM

So, B-more is going through a spike in crime. I'm guessing that after last month with Freddie Gray, the police are now going to say "well I'm too scared to arrest people, because I fear for my jerb should I get scrutinized!"

So, they are just going to continue to stand down until the public realizes the police will operate with impunity, or they won't operate at all.
Man, wish I could get away with that at my job

6/2/2015 10:11:54 PM

July saw highest number of murders in Baltimore in any month since 1972.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/31/baltimore-july-homicide-toll-gun-violence

8/3/2015 5:49:02 AM

almost all of the murders are unsolved too. It's been kind of depressing watching the news up here lately, wondering how in the hell do you have a shootout that kills a 5 year old and no one else?

They should build more public shooting ranges up here, because it seems like half the murders in Baltimore lately have come from hitting the wrong target. New gun laws won't do anything, since everyone seems to already have one already.

8/3/2015 8:24:11 AM

the three ring circus that is the trial of officer William Porter is now in full effect. The prosecution got caught trying to hide evidence that Freddie Gray had disclosed a prior neck injury during a prior arrest. The judge declined to declare a mistrial, but now the defense can run that into the ground.

What I find the most interesting is that the paramedics assumed it was an overdose and administered narcan and adrenaline when they arrived. Even crazier is that the cops called in an unresponsive Gray as having an "injured arm". Whoever called it in must have realized at that point that they had really fucked up and didn't want to sound the alarms.

12/7/2015 11:04:31 PM

It's always interesting when the same prosecutors who rely on and work with the cops on a daily basis actually have to take one to trial.

There really need to be special, independent prosecutors who handle police cases and politicians.

I can't imagine any positive outcome from this case no matter what the verdict there's going to be rioting or a police strike or something equally unpleasant.

12/8/2015 4:10:39 AM

I think they're trying to leverage plea deal out of this officer in exchange for testimony against the driver. I fully expect the arresting officers to walk, as the prosecution has stated in this case that they do not believe the injuries occurred during arrest.

12/8/2015 9:10:11 AM

Quote :

"A South Side police commander and his officers tortured black suspects into confessing to crimes they didn't commit. Another rogue unit shook down drug dealers on the West Side for drugs and money. A different group of officers accepted payments from drug dealers to warn them of police raids. "

http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/local/56485408-story

re-redditing

12/9/2015 1:16:57 PM

Quote :

" the police will operate with impunity, or they won't operate at all. "

I can see how some cops feel like they are damned either way. But, some of them shouldn't operate at all if they cannot follow the laws and policies that are in place. I'm sure most cops can do that but they need more pay and better training to attract better people. So time for the country to ante up for better policing.

And communities also have to do their part and not be silent when a crime happens.

12/9/2015 1:49:34 PM

We don't need anywhere near as many police as we have. The unions will never let it happen, but if we could reduce the number of police hired annually we could eventually start to be more selective with who is a cop.

It's ridiculous that we have more police per capita than ever in many cities, but we have a higher prison population and the lowest violent crime rate in decades.

Legalize drugs and you eliminate the need for most of what the police are used for.

12/14/2015 5:35:17 PM

His 'Crash Fo Cash' scam killed him but the cops are in trouble.

12/15/2015 3:36:02 PM

Reducing police forces will only work in my mind if we end the war on drugs (and war on underage drinking) and eliminate the need/ability of munis from using minor traffic violations as revenue streams. There are plenty of areas where the police in force is needed.

They can't be deterring criminals in problem areas though if cops are sitting around eating donuts on the freeway looking to catch someone driving 66 in the 55 zone.

12/15/2015 5:03:58 PM

Just look at all the " dark male armed robbery" emails from NCSU. I'm certain more cops were out harassing college kids for having a fucking beer then on the outlook for suspicious people wandering campus looking for a victim to mug.

12/15/2015 5:05:59 PM

A mistrial was declared in the case of the fist officer on trial

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-baltimore-police-idUSKBN0TZ1F620151216

[Edited on December 16, 2015 at 3:58 PM. Reason : Rewt]

12/16/2015 3:57:13 PM

Quote :

"His 'Crash Fo Cash' scam killed him"

Was any evidence actually provided for this?

12/16/2015 3:58:59 PM

The prosecution is going to fight to get it tried again in Baltimore, but after the fiasco that was the mass mailings to parents of Baltimore City schools about the potential rioting if Porter was acquitted, this trial will have to move outside of the city. The prosecution seriously needed Porter's case to be over and done with so they could use him as a material witness against the driver.

12/16/2015 4:34:14 PM

^^the voiceover in the initial video of Gray's arrest that was shot by one of his friends sure sounded like one. The friend claimed that Freddie had been beat up by the cops, which even the prosecution states never happened.

[Edited on December 16, 2015 at 4:59 PM. Reason : he'd also received money from a lead paint settlement prior.]

12/16/2015 4:58:26 PM

MD high Court ruled that the officer must testify against fellow officers. This removes a big roadblock for prosecutors.

http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/maryland/officer-must-testify-against-colleagues-in-freddie-gray-case/73873718

3/8/2016 11:32:58 AM

they basically ruled that the 5th amendment doesn't apply to cops. Brilliant.

3/8/2016 3:10:29 PM

No, it ruled that the government can't shield itself from itself. Right call.

3/8/2016 3:18:03 PM

^^ I think it's more complicated than that, and may work out in Porter's favor. Yes, the court ruled that Porter must testify against the other officers. But before Porter's retrial, they will have to have a hearing to show nothing that Porter said will be used against him.

But hey, until the opinion/judge's notes become available from this decision, it is impossible to do much more than speculate the reasons for the decision handed down today.

3/8/2016 3:29:05 PM

The outcome of this will definitely make me happy in my personal life.

3/8/2016 3:38:23 PM

Quote :

"they basically ruled that the 5th amendment doesn't apply to cops. Brilliant. "

Don't forget white cops are GUILTY of being mean racist bigots that enjoy and needlessly shoot African-Americans until proven Innocent

3/8/2016 4:05:59 PM

Quote :

"Don't forget white cops are GUILTY of being mean racist bigots a part of a system that historically kept niggaz down"

But that is 100% different now and there are 0 cops that act knowingly or unknowingly based on chreods that have been in our society since day 1.

Here's a thought. If you are a white male who grew up in the styx and only had a couple 'black friends' then moved to the big city and become a cop at 22 (after not going to college to get a well-rounded education) and are assigned to work every night in an urban area where all you see are urban people destroying their own community. After 6 years of this what assumptions do you think you would make about Black people?

Here's the opposite thought. Say you are an urban child with a single mother who has no time to take care of you. Since no one in the country gives a fuck about education, the only source of education you get is some rapper (that is really a monetary construction of white college students) raving about his bitches, gunzz and how much molly he does. Then you get pulled over in a 'routine' traffic stop when all you were trying to do was get a cluch of what u could not touch. What generalizations do you think you'd make about cops?

Cops are not the problem. Its our retarded society where people think that voter fruad is real and people in Syria with a networth of like $2000 are trying to kill them.


[Edited on March 8, 2016 at 4:24 PM. Reason : sup]

3/8/2016 4:16:22 PM

Quote :

" Here's a thought. If you are a white male who grew up in the styx and only had a couple 'black friends' then moved to the big city and become a cop at 22 (after not going to college to get a well-rounded education) and are assigned to work every night in an urban area where all you see are urban people destroying their own community. After 6 years of this what assumptions do you think you would make about Black people? Here's the opposite thought. Say you are an urban child with a single mother who has no time to take care of you. Since no one in the country gives a fuck about education, the only source of education you get is some rapper (that is really a monetary construction of white college students) raving about his bitches, gunzz and how much molly he does. Then you get pulled over in a 'routine' traffic stop when all you were trying to do was get a cluch of what u could not touch. What generalizations do you think you'd make about cops?"

Putting trolling on pause,

this pretty much sums up a lot of the problem. A lot of the "race" related problems has more to do with a feedback loop stemming from people having the experiences above. Simply screaming RACISM though every time something negative happens to an African-American is not going to solve the issue.

3/8/2016 4:39:17 PM

Neither is not recognizing it.

3/8/2016 4:42:30 PM

3/8/2016 4:44:12 PM

I would argue that the cop is equally as oppressed in my tale as the black boi. Both are pitted against each other in a battle where neither can really gain anything. What are you fighting over? What can be gained from this struggle? Neither the cop nor the child has anything, nor do they value the lives of their counter part. They limit each other to their own projection of what they think reality is. That is the sad part. That is what keeps both of them down.

Do people really think a cop who makes 30k a year is really a tyrant against the urban youth? lol
Do you really think black people hate cops or act violently out of of their own choices? All of this shit is made up literally written by the media and you're just choosing to believe what your half the greater society believes, because not believing in the idealism that you're comfortable with is, understandably, a little bit scary.

[Edited on March 8, 2016 at 5:03 PM. Reason : ]

3/8/2016 4:56:58 PM

It appears that they reopened the Mondawmin CVS just in time to be burned down again during round two of riots. Despite all the hoops the prosecution jumped through to force other officers involved to testify against each other and forego their 5th amendment rights, they somehow never managed to interview the witnesses BEFORE placing them on the stand. Officer Miller basically destroyed the defense yesterday by saying he made the arrest and that Officer Nero came along after the arrest was made and was searching for the asthma inhaler that Freddie Gray asked for.

You could tell this thing was over the minute the defense asked for a bench judge instead of a jury. the Baltimore Sun ran an article after the Porter case saying that they had been informed by a juror that the mistrial was the result of 1 juror refusing to vote Not Guilty. Hopefully the prosecution will stop dicking around, drop the charges on the other arresting officers, and go after the only person that should have been charged in the first place - the driver.

5/17/2016 1:41:19 PM

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-ci-nero-verdict-20160521-story.html

Nero found Not Guilty, but now the mayor wants to put Nero before a police review. I guess the city is trying to posture itself better for the impending millions they are about to dole out to a few of these officers in the ensuing civil suits.

[Edited on May 23, 2016 at 12:25 PM. Reason : mayor Rawlings-Blake, not Mosby]

5/23/2016 12:19:55 PM

The driver, who faced the most serious charge of murder, was acquitted.


If there was a time that people were going to riot, I'd think it'd be now.

6/23/2016 11:07:03 AM

The national guard is on standby and the city police force has suspended leave this week, as it seems like this was the anticipated outcome. If there are riots, I don't they'll get the leeway that was provided to them last year.

On the other hand, warm weather and kids being out of school may make things worse this time around.

6/23/2016 11:16:24 AM

Acquitted on all charges, no less.


I'm just speechless.

6/23/2016 11:28:28 AM

After reading the reports of how the trial went, I'm not surprised at all. Mosby proved herself beyond incompetent here. She tried to use jury trial tactics similar to what she did with the Porter case, hurling accusations with no evidence and hoping that at least one will stick. With a bench trial, the judge is more likely to rule in a manner that won't result in his verdict being overturned during an appeal (so you better have some hard evidence for a conviction). Mosby built her whole case around a rough ride taking place, then proceeded to present video evidence showing nothing of the sort taking place.

It will be interesting to see if they drop the charges on the other officers or continue to drag this thing out.

6/23/2016 11:48:54 AM

The prosecutor's biggest mistake was the amount and severity of charges. Had she gone with fewer and lesser charges, they would have been taken much more seriously.

6/23/2016 12:37:14 PM

That's silly. An individual should be charged based on the crime(s) the prosecutor thinks we're committed, and should be considered independently of one another.

6/23/2016 12:49:31 PM

Don't be salty because the DA is an idiot.

6/23/2016 12:54:45 PM

You start off with 2nd degree murder for basically a taxi cab driver, you're going to have issues proving it.

Take away the police element, and say you really do have a taxi cab driver. A guy gets in with a pre-existing condition, say heart disease. As the taxi cab driver is driving around, the passenger has a heart attack. Taxi cab driver doesn't notice, or notices and freaks out and doesn't call the paramedics in time....does taxi cab driver get charged with 2nd degree murder?

6/23/2016 12:56:47 PM

Does a taxi driver shackle his passenger, rendering him incapable of belting himself in? Does a taxi driver shackle a passenger, rendering him incapable of bracing himself against the wall? Is a taxi driver mandated by his employer to buckle his passengers in?


I think your analogy needs some work.


The depraved heart murder charge was given because anyone with any goddamn sense could reason that situation is potentially deadly.

[Edited on June 23, 2016 at 1:05 PM. Reason : J]

6/23/2016 1:04:12 PM

It's so obvious they were trying to rough him up, things went bad, and yet still no accountability.

People don't hate the police (or they try hard not to), they aren't anti-police, but when the cops get away with something like this with essentially no professional repercussions, it understandably would make people .

6/23/2016 1:08:35 PM

Quote :

"2nd degree murder for basically a taxi cab driver"

You know your analogy is dumb when you feel the need to use a word like that.

Basically.

This is why people call you dumb. What a stupid fucking comparison.

Holy fuck. Then you blather on for a full paragraph trying to explain the stupidity of that comparison away, but you're just throwing more stupid on the fire. Preexisting condition. FOH with that. Motherfucker didn't have no preexisting severed spine when they put him in the back of that van.

And you're completely ignoring the long and storied history of Rough Rides given by the BPD, but with the shit you've posted ITT I'm can't say I'm surprised.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-gray-rough-rides-20150423-story.html
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/bs-md-rough-rides-20160228-story.html
http://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000003659638/baltimores-rough-rides.html


[Edited on June 23, 2016 at 1:56 PM. Reason : a fucking taxi driver. this guy.]

6/23/2016 1:52:35 PM

Quote :

"It will be interesting to see if they drop the charges on the other officers or continue to drag this thing out."

They will drag it out to avoid a further riot.

6/23/2016 1:58:43 PM

the last time i took a taxi i broke they roughed my up and broke my spine and i was put in a coma so now i use uber

6/23/2016 1:59:30 PM

Please don't mistake me for thinking that the driver shouldn't have been charged. I just feel like the prosecutor was trying to make a statement here, and it backfired.

Reckless endangerment maybe? I don't know. The guy definitely should have gotten something. But coming at him with 2nd degree murder?

6/23/2016 2:23:03 PM

second-degree depraved heart murder
three counts of manslaughter
second-degree assault
reckless endangerment
misconduct in office

not knowing about the "depraved heart" part is maybe why you are being such an idiot about this

"In an ordinary murder case, prosecutors have to prove not only that a person was killed, but that the person charged with the crime intended for someone to die. In a depraved-heart murder case, prosecutors must prove instead that the suspect knowingly did something that was likely to kill, and that he showed "extreme indifference" to the possible harm."

[Edited on June 23, 2016 at 2:31 PM. Reason : .]

6/23/2016 2:31:02 PM

Quote :

"not knowing about the "depraved heart" part is maybe why you are being such an idiot about this"

He doesn't know what any of this means. He didn't even know about the multiple charges.

He was too busy comparing cops to taxi drivers.

6/23/2016 2:42:50 PM

Quote :

"And you're completely ignoring the long and storied history of Rough Rides given by the BPD"

You have to ignore it when the prosecution showed video footage of the ride through town from surveillance cameras throughout the area, and the cameras show someone driving normally. Mosby argued that Goodson broke two traffic violations during his drive around town, when he failed to come to a complete stop at a stop sign and drifted over the dashed yellow line during a left turn. The defense demonstrated how both instances REDUCED the G-forces that would have been felt by someone in the vehicle.

Even the defense removed any reference to a rough ride from their closing arguments, because they knew they couldn't reasonably make that claim.

6/23/2016 2:43:55 PM

Quote :

"You have to ignore it when the prosecution showed video footage of the ride..."

Except the context of that post wasn't the trial, it was rjrumfel's stupid comparison.

[Edited on June 23, 2016 at 2:57 PM. Reason : otw i'm with you]

6/23/2016 2:53:17 PM