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6/20/2015 12:48:59 AM

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Fuck the South. Fuck 'em. We should have let them go when they wanted to leave. But no, we had to kill half a million people so they'd stay part of our special Union. Fighting for the right to keep slaves - yeah, those are states we want to keep.

And now what do we get? We're the fucking Arrogant Northeast Liberal Elite? How about this for arrogant: the South is the Real America? The Authentic America. Really?

Cause we fucking founded this country, assholes. Those Founding Fathers you keep going on and on about? All that bullshit about what you think they meant by the Second Amendment giving you the right to keep your assault weapons in the glove compartment because you didn't bother to read the first half of the fucking sentence? Who do you think those wig-wearing lacy-shirt sporting revolutionaries were? They were fucking blue-staters, dickhead. Boston? Philadelphia? New York? Hello? Think there might be a reason all the fucking monuments are up here in our backyard?

No, No. Get the fuck out. We're not letting you visit the Liberty Bell and fucking Plymouth Rock anymore until you get over your real American selves and start respecting those other nine amendments. Who do you think those fucking stripes on the flag are for? Nine are for fucking blue states. And it would be 10 if those Vermonters had gotten their fucking Subarus together and broken off from New York a little earlier. Get it? We started this shit, so don't get all uppity about how real you are you Johnny-come-lately "Oooooh I've been a state for almost a hundred years" dickheads. Fuck off.

Arrogant? You wanna talk about us Northeasterners being fucking arrogant? What's more American than arrogance? Hmmm? Maybe horsies? I don't think so. Arrogance is the fucking cornerstone of what it means to be American. And I wouldn't be so fucking arrogant if I wasn't paying for your fucking bridges, bitch.

All those Federal taxes you love to hate? It all comes from us and goes to you, so shut up and enjoy your fucking Tennessee Valley Authority electricity and your fancy highways that we paid for. And the next time Florida gets hit by a hurricane you can come crying to us if you want to, but you're the ones who built on a fucking swamp. "Let the Spanish keep it, it’s a shithole," we said, but you had to have your fucking orange juice.

The next dickwad who says, "It’s your money, not the government's money" is gonna get their ass kicked. Nine of the ten states that get the most federal fucking dollars and pay the least... can you guess? Go on, guess. That’s right, motherfucker, they're red states. And eight of the ten states that receive the least and pay the most? It’s too easy, asshole, they’re blue states. It’s not your money, assholes, it’s fucking our money. What was that Real American Value you were spouting a minute ago? Self reliance? Try this for self reliance: buy your own fucking stop signs, assholes.

Let’s talk about those values for a fucking minute. You and your Southern values can bite my ass because the blue states got the values over you fucking Real Americans every day of the goddamn week. Which state do you think has the lowest divorce rate you marriage-hyping dickwads? Well? Can you guess? It’s fucking Massachusetts, the fucking center of the gay marriage universe. Yes, that’s right, the state you love to tie around the neck of anyone to the left of Strom Thurmond has the lowest divorce rate in the fucking nation. Think that’s just some aberration? How about this: 9 of the 10 lowest divorce rates are fucking blue states, asshole, and most are in the Northeast, where our values suck so bad. And where are the highest divorce rates? Care to fucking guess? 10 of the top 10 are fucking red-ass we're-so-fucking-moral states. And while Nevada is the worst, the Bible Belt is doing its fucking part.

But two guys making out is going to fucking ruin marriage for you? Yeah? Seems like you're ruining it pretty well on your own, you little bastards. Oh, but that's ok because you go to church, right? I mean you do, right? Cause we fucking get to hear about it every goddamn year at election time. Yes, we're fascinated by how you get up every Sunday morning and sing, and then you're fucking towers of moral superiority. Yeah, that's a workable formula. Maybe us fucking Northerners don't talk about religion as much as you because we're not so busy sinning, hmmm? Ever think of that, you self-righteous assholes? No, you're too busy erecting giant stone tablets of the Ten Commandments in buildings paid for by the fucking Northeast Liberal Elite. And who has the highest murder rates in the nation? It ain't us up here in the North, assholes.

Well this gravy train is fucking over. Take your liberal-bashing, federal-tax-leaching, confederate-flag-waving, holier-than-thou, hypocritical bullshit and shove it up your ass.

And no, you can't have your fucking convention in New York next time. Fuck off.

6/20/2015 12:55:04 AM

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Gronke alert.

6/20/2015 1:07:19 AM

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more like tl;dr alert

#nomemeforyou

6/20/2015 1:11:32 AM

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^ http://www.fuckthesouth.com/

6/20/2015 1:12:19 AM

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6/20/2015 1:15:46 AM

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First time I've seen this. Beautiful writing.

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"A Negro mother wept in the street Sunday morning in front of a Baptist Church in Birmingham. In her hand she held a shoe, one shoe, from the foot of her dead child. We hold that shoe with her.

Every one of us in the white South holds that small shoe in his hand.

It is too late to blame the sick criminals who handled the dynamite. The FBI and the police can deal with that kind. The charge against them is simple. They killed four children.

Only we can trace the truth, Southerner — you and I. We broke those children’s bodies.

We watched the stage set without staying it. We listened to the prologue unbestirred. We saw the curtain opening with disinterest. We have heard the play.

We — who go on electing politicians who heat the kettles of hate.

We — who raise no hand to silence the mean and little men who have their nigger jokes.

We — who stand aside in imagined rectitude and let the mad dogs that run in every society slide their leashes from our hand, and spring.

We — the heirs of a proud South, who protest its worth and demand it recognition — we are the ones who have ducked the difficult, skirted the uncomfortable, caviled at the challenge, resented the necessary, rationalized the unacceptable, and created the day surely when these children would die.

This is no time to load our anguish onto the murderous scapegoat who set the cap in dynamite of our own manufacture.

He didn’t know any better.

Somewhere in the dim and fevered recess of an evil mind he feels right now that he has been a hero. He is only guilty of murder. He thinks he has pleased us.


A grieving relative of one of bombing victims in Birmingham, Ala., Sept. 15, 1963 at the Sixteenth Street Baptist Church is led away after telling officers that some of his family was in the section most heavily damaged. Man just in back of him is holding a shoe found in the debris. At least four persons were known to have been killed. (AP Photo)
We of the white South who know better are the ones who must take a harsher judgment.

We, who know better, created a climate for child-killing by those who don’t.

We hold that shoe in our hand, Southerner. Let us see it straight, and look at the blood on it. Let us compare it with the unworthy speeches of Southern public men who have traduced the Negro; match it with the spectacle of shrilling children whose parents and teachers turned them free to spit epithets at small huddles of Negro school children for a week before this Sunday in Birmingham; hold up the shoe and look beyond it to the state house in Montgomery where the official attitudes of Alabama have been spoken in heat and anger.

Let us not lay the blame on some brutal fool who didn’t know any better.

We know better. We created the day. We bear the judgment. May God have mercy on the poor South that has so been led. May what has happened hasten the day when the good South, which does live and has great being, will rise to this challenge of racial understanding and common humanity, and in the full power of its unasserted courage, assert itself.

The Sunday school play at Birmingham is ended. With a weeping Negro mother, we stand in the bitter smoke and hold a shoe. If our South is ever to be what we wish it to be, we will plant a flower of nobler resolve for the South now upon these four small graves that we dug."


http://www.poynter.org/uncategorized/4761/a-flower-for-the-graves/

6/20/2015 1:17:05 AM

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Who is the we he's referring to?

Its too late for me to be reading long paragraphs

http://news.yahoo.com/nra-executive-suggests-slain-charleston-pastor-blame-gun-043458974.html

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"A National Rifle Association executive in Texas has come under fire for suggesting that a South Carolina lawmaker and pastor slain with eight members of his congregation bears some of the blame for his opposition to permitting concealed handguns in church."


Damn can he get buried before you blame him for his own murder. I love people who think having a gun makes them safe.

Victim blaming 101 right there.

6/20/2015 1:23:40 AM

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^obama didn't wait to start blaming guns. I love people who think having a gun free zone sign makes them safe.

what the NRA guy said was just as out of line tho


[Edited on June 20, 2015 at 5:34 AM. Reason : a]

6/20/2015 5:31:01 AM

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Actually having strict gun control is proven to drastically lower the number of mass shootings. Compare USA mass shootings to Australia since they did their gun control..... If no one has a gun, no on gets killed by a gun.

[Edited on June 20, 2015 at 7:12 AM. Reason : .]

6/20/2015 6:57:26 AM

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""His nephew is going to “ride the lightning,” Cowles told The Times"


hahahahahaha at this quote

6/20/2015 6:59:08 AM

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"If no one has a gun, no on gets killed by a gun.
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we can all hold hands and sing kumbayah in this fantasy place too. sign me up!

6/20/2015 7:32:50 AM

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I guess you're not a numbers guy? It's crazy what people will hold onto in spite overwhelmingly contradictory evidence. But 45% of this country are creationists, so why am I surprised? I guess I assume most people on here got educated, probably advanced science and math along the way.

Along these lines, I was reading something interesting about how we hold on to meaning in our lives; i.e. That when traditional sources of meaning deteriorate, we actually double down (think climate deniers, Darwin deniers, etc) because it's such a radical shift for humans to lose a source of meaning. It's the threatened extinction of a meme, but much more than that, it's the very anchoring for a human consciousness from disillusionment.

6/20/2015 7:50:31 AM

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There are major cultural differences between the countries those statistics took place in and ours. And major socioeconomic differences.

I do agree he is just being obnoxious by totally dismissing this is conversation that still needs to be had though. And the NRA guy was multiple levels above abhorrent compared to what Obama said. This guy flat out blamed the victims which is next level savagery.

I'm actually not surprised that we are talking about guns more than the major issue of systemic racism and poverty that has lead to the vast majority of our "gun violence" problem.

[Edited on June 20, 2015 at 9:41 AM. Reason : X]

6/20/2015 9:39:45 AM

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Realistic solution as in it n could be done and solve the problems almost overnight.

Not a realistic solution as in backwards nutjobs will never let it happen in a million years.

6/20/2015 10:07:02 AM

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"And the NRA guy was multiple levels above abhorrent compared to what Obama said. This guy flat out blamed the victims which is next level savagery."

6/20/2015 10:55:26 AM

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Back on topic

South Carolina allows electrocution as an option for the death penalty.

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"""His nephew is going to “ride the lightning,” Cowles told The Times""


Bring on the lightning

6/20/2015 10:56:01 AM

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6/20/2015 11:00:17 AM

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/at-least-two-killed-in-austria-after-man-drives-into-crowd-before-stabbing-passersby-in-graz-10333891.html
Ban cars and knives

6/20/2015 11:00:54 AM

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6/20/2015 11:15:37 AM

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"But its not ok to say 20 5 1 3 year olds being murdered is ok just because most guns cars arent being used to do the same."

6/20/2015 11:17:39 AM

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6/20/2015 11:29:04 AM

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Damn beatsunc is trolling his tiny libertarian nuts off ITT. Careful boss!

6/20/2015 11:45:04 AM

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http://lastrhodesian.com/

This is scary because the first part of the text is almost every wral post on any story about any crime to a tee. These thoughts are not unique to this kid. Obviously the intent to take action is unique.

[Edited on June 20, 2015 at 11:52 AM. Reason : X]

6/20/2015 11:49:13 AM

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Yep, was just about to post this motherless fuck's manifesto:

http://lastrhodesian.com/data/documents/rtf88.txt

(courtesy of those "racist libertarians" at Reason)

6/20/2015 11:52:53 AM

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If it's real the worst part is that some of what he says is parroted by very mainstream personalities.

6/20/2015 11:56:25 AM

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And now the media is publishing his manifesto, and giving him the attention he wanted and showing everyone else that all you have to do to get published is to kill innocent people

6/20/2015 12:12:14 PM

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Sounds like an angsty teenager polarized by the extremist in our own mainstream media.

6/20/2015 12:27:46 PM

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"And now the media is publishing his manifesto, and giving him the attention he wanted and showing everyone else that all you have to do to get published is to kill innocent people"


Seriously. How can people not understand this is a terrible idea?

6/20/2015 12:58:18 PM

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The activists that found and posted this manifesto say they did so to show just how closely many of the rants and thoughts within align with those of right wing pundits in the mainstream media today.

6/20/2015 1:10:45 PM

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It would be nice if we could ban cars because they are really bad too, but unfortunately we dont have a readily available alternative to meet the necessity cars curremtly fulfill.

6/20/2015 1:38:50 PM

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Sounds like FOX finally got its point across.

6/20/2015 1:51:57 PM

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I was fully expecting an "American History X" quote to pop up in that manifesto, but he followed it up by quoting a Japanese drama as his favorite movie?

6/20/2015 2:12:55 PM

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On page two or something, I wanted him dead within the hour...cause then, I hoped, we wouldn't have to do all this shit again.

But, every time, we've gotta dig in and try to "understand" the man and his actions.

They're all the same...pitiful losers...desperate rejects...with just enough wherewithal to point their finger but not enough to actually affect change in their own lives.

They're surprisingly dull and predictable.

And they're pathetically easy to manipulate--those agencies that do manipulate them should be ashamed, but they won't be.


Dude's gonna wanna die, and he won't be allowed to...it's all shitty, and it fucking sucks.

6/20/2015 3:06:21 PM

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I'd argue this is far different than an event like Sandy Hook. That was a true case of mental illness. This is a kid who was indoctrinated by quite a bit of hate in TV, in history and on the internet. I think it's useful in this case to understand where and how he came by these opinions.

Certainly there should not be limitations to what people can talk about or post about but its important to know that these opinions do have consequences and it is the real world out there.

6/20/2015 3:11:31 PM

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Quote :
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And they're pathetically easy to manipulate--those agencies that do manipulate them should be ashamed, but they won't be.


Dude's gonna wanna die, and he won't be allowed to...it's all shitty, and it fucking sucks."


How Can we make them ashamed?

6/20/2015 3:31:51 PM

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^^ That's funny. I would argue this wasn't mental illness. This dude knew what he was doing and was rational pretty much the whole time. This was just pure, unabashed hate. Fuck this guy.

6/20/2015 4:39:06 PM

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That's what I said... ?

6/20/2015 4:40:04 PM

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Woops, you said "That," not "This"

6/20/2015 4:43:20 PM

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A volunteer firefighter was fired for comments he made after this church shooting.

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"Dylann Roof "needs to be praised for the good deed he has done.""


http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/local/texas-news/2015/06/19/mabank-fire-department-charleston-shooting-dylann-roof/29017427/

Unfortunately, these thoughts and opinions are much more common and pervasive that many people would like to acknowledge. The fact of the matter is that anyone can go online and find a community of people that support their sick and twisted views.

6/20/2015 4:48:45 PM

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Fuck that guy

6/20/2015 4:52:33 PM

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Since his website is down, here's the cached version:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:7gnU3T4mdXcJ:lastrhodesian.com/data/documents/rtf88.txt

6/20/2015 5:10:12 PM

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And of course that piece of shit lives in Texas

6/20/2015 5:38:11 PM

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You gotta really fuck up to get fired from a volunteer gig

6/20/2015 5:59:15 PM

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A hogher percentage of white supremecist sypathizers or muslim exremist sypathizers? Interesting...

6/20/2015 6:00:55 PM

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"sypathizers," he says

6/20/2015 6:16:07 PM

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http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article24952345.html

WUT?

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"In Shelby, the FBI handled Roof’s initial questioning, Ledford said. Shelby police’s lone conversation with the mass-murder suspect was about food. Earlier in the day, Roof had bought water and chips at a south Charlotte gas station. Now he was hungry. Police bought him food from a nearby Burger King, Ledford said."

6/20/2015 10:12:43 PM

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What? He's a white man, not a demonic nigger.

6/20/2015 10:17:21 PM

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This guy looks like every white person in the south.

6/20/2015 10:49:45 PM

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6/20/2015 11:02:53 PM

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