UJustWait84 All American 25825 Posts user info edit post |
benXJ is what's wrong with America. 3/18/2016 3:25:06 PM |
moron All American 34422 Posts user info edit post |
He's fine, he just can't step away from his emotions and conjecture and supplant it with rational thought.
It's a flaw in humanity. 3/18/2016 3:32:26 PM |
Bullet All American 28547 Posts user info edit post |
At least he's considerate, which is more than I can say for some of you people 3/18/2016 4:00:32 PM |
benXJ All American 925 Posts user info edit post |
emotions?
I have no emotional thought on the matter.
Strictly dollars and sense. Yes, i spelled it correctly. 3/18/2016 4:20:48 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
You're ignoring actual dollars though and acting like your proposed solution of forced deportation of everybody will somehow magically be cheaper and more effective if we just try harder. 3/18/2016 4:26:21 PM |
Big4Country All American 11919 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Yes, laws change over time. Yes, in the beginning of the US, people flocked here from all over the world. THEN, we realized that this could not go on forever, so then we started keeping track of who came in and enforcing the border. We also implemented a way to immigrate legally. The door was not shut." |
And one of the next big changes that came later on was the policies of LBJ and his idea of a "Great Society." Illegals now use anchor babies to help them stay here and collect money from the government welfare programs. The law needs to be changed so that newborns aren't US citizens unless at least one of their parents is a citizen of the US.3/18/2016 6:41:15 PM |
moron All American 34422 Posts user info edit post |
^ so you want to amend to constitution to solve a practically made-up problem that has no real impact... you're definitely a Trump supporter. 3/19/2016 1:21:45 AM |
moron All American 34422 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Donald Trump's vitriolic attacks against Megyn Kelly and his extreme, sick obsession with her is beneath the dignity of a presidential candidate who wants to occupy the highest office in the land" |
http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/18/media/donald-trump-megyn-kelly-fox-news/index.html?sr=twCNN031916donald-trump-megyn-kelly-fox-news1214AMVODtopPhoto&linkId=22454722
After watching the Samantha Bee interviews with Trumpists, I can't see how they can think Trump is just joking with his vile comments about people and groups. He really seems bothered by the things he rails against. I wonder how long Trump has been this unhinged, I guess people assumed it was his TV persona, but maybe the guy is just nuts.3/19/2016 1:46:36 AM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
Megyn Kelly deserves all the criticism she gets for being a GOP puppet. The best part about the primaries has been watching her throw temper tantrums while the votes come in after the polls close. 3/19/2016 2:12:04 AM |
benXJ All American 925 Posts user info edit post |
Samantha Bee...whoever that is, is painful to look at and listen to. 3/19/2016 8:43:12 AM |
TerdFerguson All American 6603 Posts user info edit post |
^^Trump has been so creepy in Twitter storming her on a regular basis. It's exactly what internet mouth breathers do to pretty girls. This is the GOP front runner folks.......... 3/19/2016 8:58:48 AM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
He is such a great Twitter follow. Comedic gold. 3/19/2016 10:59:06 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25819 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Samantha Bee...whoever that is, is painful to look at and listen to." |
this sounds exactly like something Trump would say.3/19/2016 11:44:25 AM |
synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
^ yup. 3/19/2016 12:58:25 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
He is listed #12 out of 25 on the highest risks to the global economy if he is elected President. 3/19/2016 1:37:01 PM |
Mangy Wolf All American 2006 Posts user info edit post |
RedState has an article speculating on his age-related cognitive impairment. I expect for this to appear in more places. If you have dealt with the aged, you recognize the symptoms. The man is losing his mind.
Couple this with his tyrannical instincts. When he finally comes to realize that not only he can he not win the general election, but he will be the first presidential candidate to lose to a woman ... let's just say, you will know when it happens. 3/19/2016 2:31:44 PM |
xienze All American 7341 Posts user info edit post |
^ Presumably Hillary and Bernie won't have the same cognitive impairment problem, right?
Quote : | "He is listed #12 out of 25 on the highest risks to the global economy if he is elected President." |
"Our panel of experts agree, not only is Trump the #12 highest risk to the global economy, but he's also literally Hilter!!!"
[Edited on March 19, 2016 at 5:25 PM. Reason : ...]3/19/2016 5:24:46 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39458 Posts user info edit post |
shock of shocks that you'd attempt to defend the dude 3/19/2016 5:51:30 PM |
Mangy Wolf All American 2006 Posts user info edit post |
Hillary has undisclosed problems, I would imagine. We know about the cerebral clot, the double vision, the coughing fits, the cankles, the mother-in-law from hell voice...
But she could spend the next eight months in Lucia and still win this thing with 400 EVs. 3/19/2016 7:38:14 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
I have concluded that Trump backers are irresponsible adults. 3/19/2016 7:56:28 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 38015 Posts user info edit post |
https://t.co/QFwSwmNoI0
I guess they were wearing kkk hoods, implying that was a typical trump supporter. Maybe guy missed the subtlety/irony there. If you wear a kkk hood for any reason and end up getting your shit pushed in by a black dude, hard to be too surprised
[Edited on March 19, 2016 at 9:46 PM. Reason : A] 3/19/2016 9:44:09 PM |
synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
What kkk hood? 3/19/2016 10:12:37 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148801 Posts user info edit post |
All the liberals shitting their pants about Trump being president reminds me of all the rednecks shitting their pants that we might have a black President back in 2008.
[Edited on March 19, 2016 at 10:35 PM. Reason : THE WORLD WILL LITERALLY END] 3/19/2016 10:35:27 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
I agree with TT10. Still can't believe we will have to choose between fucking Hillary the lying bitch and shithead egomaniac Trump. 3/19/2016 10:41:57 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Check out @frankthorpNBC's Tweet: https://twitter.com/frankthorpNBC/status/711323229399298048?s=09
The person behind him, they were together. Person with the Klan hood is actually a girl. She takes 's it off when the assault happens, but you can see her come up at the very end of the other video. 3/19/2016 11:19:07 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23067 Posts user info edit post |
So what exactly is the story here? Shitheel liberals dressed up as KKK members at a Trump rally to try to make others believe that Trump supporters are nothing but klan memebers? And then said shitheel gets punched in the face by a black person?
I don't see a problem. Anybody dressing like the klan needs to be punched in the face. 3/20/2016 1:07:09 AM |
moron All American 34422 Posts user info edit post |
Here's another angle
https://twitter.com/alex_satterly/status/711323486950596608
Looks like protester is holding a picture of trump as hitler, then a trump supporter follows trumps recommendation to punch protesters.
[Edited on March 20, 2016 at 1:22 AM. Reason : ] 3/20/2016 1:19:46 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 38015 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Shitheel liberals dressed up as KKK members at a Trump rally to try to make others believe that Trump supporters are nothing but klan memebers?" |
I don't think they were trying to fool anyone if that's what you mean. You basicallyrrepeated the point in my post except you gave the puncher way more benefit of the doubt. It's basically another sucker punch. If you want to call it provoked, it's only barely so. Also dude may have done some serious damage, that punch was solid and he got in some heavy kicks.3/20/2016 6:33:27 AM |
beatsunc All American 10767 Posts user info edit post |
at least the cops arrested the punk instead of pretending they didnt see it like the last sucker punch so progress is being made 3/20/2016 6:53:16 AM |
benXJ All American 925 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I have concluded that Trump backers are irresponsible adults." |
sweet conclusion.
what is your conclusion on Hillary supporters?3/20/2016 10:19:35 AM |
benXJ All American 925 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^ so you want to amend to constitution to solve a practically made-up problem that has no real impact... you're definitely a Trump supporter." |
Practically? Can you quantify that? You claim it is made up. Are you saying that no one has crossed the border illegally or has overstayed a visa? If people have done that, which we have actual fact of, then it is a problem. You may not believe that it is a HUGE problem, but you say "no real impact"? I have a feeling that states on the border and people that are looking for jobs may think it is a problem. Might be a problem for the people that try and enter the country legally and then get profiled due to the law breakers that try and sneak in. Might be a problem for the people killed and injured by illegal aliens. Why is it ok for hundreds of millions of dollars to be sent to other countries....money that is taken out of our (you included) monetary system, that is not very stable to begin with.
Yes, some of the problems facing this country are hard to solve, but why not solve this one? It's right in our face.
Why not amend the constitution? It has been done before, to keep up with the times and due to popular demand. Anchor babies weren't a issue when the country had 1 million people.3/20/2016 10:33:28 AM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Also dude may have done some serious damage, that punch was solid and he got in some heavy kicks." |
There wasn't much damage that could have been done, considering the dude apparently was mentally retarded to begin with. Thinking that dressing up as a Klan member and disturbing a Trump rally was as good idea falls to "Imma steal this here propaganda banner while vacationing in North Korea" levels of stupid.3/20/2016 10:39:24 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
up there with "my testicles shrank because of all the steroids" level 3/20/2016 10:48:11 AM |
Big4Country All American 11919 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Why not amend the constitution? It has been done before, to keep up with the times and due to popular demand. Anchor babies weren't a issue when the country had 1 million people." |
It also wasn't quite as big of a problem before LBJ and all of the social programs that illegals are trying to take advantage of.
An interesting article.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/2016-race-donald-trump-ted-cruz-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-tax-plans-impact/?linkId=22453260
[Edited on March 20, 2016 at 11:18 AM. Reason : .]3/20/2016 11:11:33 AM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10996 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ How will amending the Constitution to end anchor babies stop illegal immigration or any of the problems you listed?
^ What's interesting about it? 3/20/2016 11:25:46 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
because then they won't be takin jobs 3/20/2016 11:28:53 AM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10996 Posts user info edit post |
An anchor baby took your job? 3/20/2016 11:38:40 AM |
Big4Country All American 11919 Posts user info edit post |
^^^Well it breaks down the tax plans. I'm not for the ones that take money away from me. Everyone can pay for their own college. I shouldn't have to. 3/20/2016 2:44:38 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10996 Posts user info edit post |
The Trump and Cruz plans both cost about a trillion dollars annually.
Total education spending is 70 billion. Where is the other 930 billion going to come from? 3/20/2016 3:06:14 PM |
benXJ All American 925 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "How will amending the Constitution to end anchor babies stop illegal immigration or any of the problems you listed?" |
you do realize that there is an entire industry of getting pregnant women (from all over the world) across the border so they can have their kid in the US and obtain citizenship, right? Then the the kid is eligible for all sorts of benefits, and the mother is taken care of too, because that is the 'moral' thing to do. Then, we can't send the mom back, cause that would 'break up the family'.
Yes, that is a problem, and amending the anchor baby provision in the constitution would a) help with the problem of human trafficking and b) take away some incentive to come here illegally. Wouldn't cost the gov't a dime to do that. And then really growing some balls and arresting employers.3/20/2016 6:46:03 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
Arrest employers!??!!!! You want to arrest employers???? 3/20/2016 8:01:29 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10996 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I do realize. But now you've gone from "Stop anchor babies! They're taking our jobs and killing our people!" to "Stop anchor babies! Human trafficking is bad!" Amending the Constitution may help the latter, not so much the former. On the other hand, going after employers doesn't require an amendment and would have a far larger impact on immigration than anything targeting anchor babies.
Whatever you want to do about immigration, I hope you're considering policies that help preserve the net positive impact of illegal immigration on our economy. 3/20/2016 8:33:04 PM |
moron All American 34422 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you do realize that there is an entire industry of getting pregnant women (from all over the world) across the border so they can have their kid in the US and obtain citizenship, right? Then the the kid is eligible for all sorts of benefits, and the mother is taken care of too, because that is the 'moral' thing to do. Then, we can't send the mom back, cause that would 'break up the family'.
Yes, that is a problem, and amending the anchor baby provision in the constitution would a) help with the problem of human trafficking and b) take away some incentive to come here illegally." |
LOL, this will have near zero impact on the people coming here illegally. Yeah, some people do come here to try and have a baby, but the number of people that do this is dwarfed by the number of people that come here to work or live. Plus it's grossly unfair to the American kids born here who grow up and live as Americans, whose only home and culture they know is America.
It makes literally zero sense, nor is it even feasible, to amend to constitution to end birthright citizenship at this point. It also undermines your statement that you only hate "illegal" immigrants, it really makes it seem like you hate all immigrants and are personally uncomfortable with the idea that the world changes, it always has, and always will.3/21/2016 3:12:49 AM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
I would like to know Benxj family history. 3/21/2016 7:22:26 AM |
benXJ All American 925 Posts user info edit post |
Never once have I eluded to hating immigrants. I fully understand how this country was founded.
Why not punish employers that hire illegal immigrants? Never was against that either. It's part of the solution, along with stopping illegal border crossings and actually looking for overstayed Visas.
Yes, the industry that helps get women here for the purpose of having the baby on American soil is responsible for more than one problem. I didn't go 'from' anything. I am against the idea of anchor babies, as are many other people. Stopping that incentive would, yes, have an impact on human trafficking. Along with helping ease the moral issue some of ya'll brought up about separating families.
Quote : | "It makes literally zero sense, nor is it even feasible, to amend to constitution to end birthright citizenship at this point. It also undermines your statement that you only hate "illegal" immigrants, it really makes it seem like you hate all immigrants and are personally uncomfortable with the idea that the world changes, it always has, and always will." |
Come again? Doesn't make sense? To who? What do you mean 'at this point'? Of course it is feasible to amend the constitution. It absolutely can, and has, been done. Now, will it be done? No. Uncomfortable with the world changing? Again, no. Uncomfortable with people breaking the law and taking advantage of a system? You know it.
Quote : | "LOL, this will have near zero impact on the people coming here illegally. Yeah, some people do come here to try and have a baby, but the number of people that do this is dwarfed by the number of people that come here to work or live. Plus it's grossly unfair to the American kids born here who grow up and live as Americans, whose only home and culture they know is America." |
You know this for sure? You believe that if America said that you can't have a baby here and it automatically become a citizen, won't remove the incentive to pay smugglers to get them across the border? Unfair? I see this argument the most. If the parent didn't choose to break the law, or was stopped at the border, or was deported, then this would not be an issue. It is pretty crappy to deport a ten you old kid that was born here, yes, but that cannot be a concern in the rule of law world.
I do not care why you crossed the border illegally. Babies, work, live, visit, try to find Bigfoot. It doesn't matter.3/21/2016 8:37:56 AM |
benXJ All American 925 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I would like to know Benxj family history." |
Working on a research paper?
My family history should have no impact on the law.3/21/2016 8:39:27 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Never once have I eluded to hating immigrants. I" |
see:
all you in the last page3/21/2016 9:31:44 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "RedState has an article speculating on his age-related cognitive impairment. I expect for this to appear in more places. If you have dealt with the aged, you recognize the symptoms. The man is losing his mind" |
My wife and I agree that he reminds us of my father-in-law (coincidentally, my MIL likes Trump). The older he gets, the louder and more boisterous he is. He has no filter and he makes less and less sense. We find it hilarious, especially when you combine it with gin and tonics and wine. Trump is one entertaining dude...but it's absolutely frightening that he has a chance to be president.3/21/2016 9:32:14 AM |
ElGimpy All American 3111 Posts user info edit post |
I like how now that GrumpyGOP is taking a break from pointing out everything wrong with Benxj's posts he's gone back to rehashing his arguments as if the last 2 pages never happened.
For those of you that want to deport more immigrants than the ones that are caught breaking some law other than crossing the border:
The cost of finding and deporting these people has been shown to be very expensive per individual by people that know a lot more than you on this subject. Other people who also know a lot more than you have shown that having more immigrants, even illegal ones, helps the GDP and the economy in general. They have also shown that deporting all of them would hurt the economy.
When you add those things together, it would seem that you are arguing we should spend a bunch of money to find these people, probably breaking up a bunch of families in the process, with the added bonus of hurting our economy.
Now, since you are the ones saying this is a problem, that means the burden is on you to prove either: 1) Why the above statements are not true. I.E. Show how deporting all these people will be good for the economy (and yes, you need to show your work...none of us want to be spending money on a problem we don't believe is that important just because you say so)
or
2) Show how you are going to fund said deportations AND keep that from hurting the economy (again, yes, you need to show your work here. Saying, "we'll do it slowly and will find other ways to help the economy" is not an acceptable answer before action is taken) 3/21/2016 9:56:03 AM |
synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The cost of finding and deporting these people has been shown to be very expensive per individual by people that know a lot more than you on this subject. " |
NOT MAH TAX DOLARS!!!!!!!!!3/21/2016 10:01:31 AM |