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"20 million soldiers died in WWII.... 12 million from Russia alone. Over 60 million people died directly due to WWII But you make great points... Please, do continue. Exxagerating helps drive home how right you are."

what is he exaggerating?

also, are you attempting to downplay slavery and the effects of slavery in the US?

[Edited on July 14, 2016 at 11:01 PM. Reason : .]

7/14/2016 10:55:45 PM

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"what is he exaggerating? "

his point.


comparing the enslavement of 1 million africans, while abhorrent, did not have the societal impact of losing 9% of the population in europe and 60% of the worlds jewish population.

7/14/2016 11:06:47 PM

he didn't say that it had the same impact

7/14/2016 11:10:20 PM

you're pursuit of semantics is ... tired.

saying slavery had an impact on society in the same vein as the deaths of WW2 is like saying stepping on a thumb tack is a lot like getting shot because they both result in holes

you understand this, but you remain obtuse as fuck because you enjoy arguing.

7/14/2016 11:13:57 PM

I don't enjoy arguing at all

I do find it funny to point out the people who love to argue yet have horrible reading comprehension, though

7/14/2016 11:16:13 PM

k

7/14/2016 11:16:54 PM

BREAKING NEWZ!!!!!!

THE BLAME FOR AFRICAN SLAVERY IN THE NEW WORLD/USA BELONGS TO BLACK AFRICAN CHIEFTONS, NOT WHITE PEOPLE.

More at 6.

7/14/2016 11:48:22 PM

Sorry I underestimated the number of slaves

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade

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"Current estimates are that about 12 million Africans were shipped across the Atlantic"

And what I am saying is that you admit that WW1 and WW2 had a tremendous impact on Europe, one that has remained to this day and shaped the world we live in, but its unfathomable that 400 years of forced migration and labor and then another 100 or so of being oppressed, beaten, murdered for the color of your skin, treated like a subhuman animal by a large portion of the white population. None of that could have a lasting effect.

Besides I wasn't even talking to you my original response was a rebuttal of synapse claiming that black people having less wealth isn't a "race problem" or that the fact that police targeting of minorities has nothing to do with race.



Quit being part and parcel to the anti-intellectual problem in this country by being purposefully obtuse and semantic. Be an adult and take this shit seriously. This country has gone off the rails because no one wants to have a conversation about the problems facing our society; no one wants to actually look at the facts, history, and context we find ourselves in and move forward. They just want to be right, or say the witty thing, or shut down any serious conversation that doesn't fit along ideological lines. And if all you can do is add to the divisiveness with your bullshit then you're no better than the strawman liberals you rail against. You have yourself and your ilk to blame for the shitty precarious state of politics, the media, and human discourse today.

7/14/2016 11:58:38 PM

That last paragraph may be a little unfair, I don't know you and didn't study your post history before making a sweeping generalization. However it does express a lot of the frustration I currently feel towards everything right now. So I apologize for directing it at you ssclark

7/15/2016 12:04:58 AM

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"They just want to be right, or say the witty thing, or shut down any serious conversation that doesn't fit along ideological lines."

Since they have utterly failed at the first 2 consistently, you will notice all the SJWs on TWW have resorted to the third.

7/15/2016 1:04:19 AM

parsonsb is the type of TWWer we need, but not the one we deserve.

7/15/2016 7:49:41 AM

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"BREAKING NEWZ!!!!!! THE BLAME FOR AFRICAN SLAVERY IN THE NEW WORLD/USA BELONGS TO BLACK AFRICAN CHIEFTONS, NOT AND WHITE PEOPLE. More at 6."

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"That last paragraph may be a little unfair, I don't know you and didn't study your post history before making a sweeping generalization. However it does express a lot of the frustration I currently feel towards everything right now. So I apologize for directing it at you ssclark "

My thoughts continue to be: the fault lies with everyone. Both sides are causing the other pain. The perpetual presentation of the other viewpoint as the devil is disengenuous at best. The devisiveness is a product of both halves. There's racist as fuck white people and racist as fuck black people, and normal pleasant people on both sides. Pretending otherwise is what has us in this mess at the moment

7/15/2016 8:45:55 AM

Who is arguing that racist black people don't exist again?

7/15/2016 10:51:35 AM

and what do they have to do with anything?

I certainly hope you aren't trying to equate the two

7/15/2016 11:15:33 AM

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"Besides I wasn't even talking to you my original response was a rebuttal of synapse claiming that black people having less wealth isn't a "race problem" or that the fact that police targeting of minorities has nothing to do with race. "

this part is a little subtle but it's the funniest

7/15/2016 11:24:34 AM

Just to be clear, pretending that racist people don't exist is what "has us in this mess at the moment," not, you know, actual fucking racism.


[Edited on July 15, 2016 at 11:29 AM. Reason : The takes are extra hot ITT.]

7/15/2016 11:25:06 AM

And who is pretending racist people don't exist? A conservative strawman, I assume?

7/15/2016 12:11:17 PM

My statement was that both sides suck , not that racist people don't exist. I made that pretty clear.

7/15/2016 12:13:25 PM

lol, JCE2011 doesn't deny that racism exists! It's just that he is looking for racists to literally scream out "I am doing this racist thing" while doing something racist, before he is willing to believe that they are racist.

7/15/2016 12:16:45 PM

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"Pretending otherwise is what has us in this mess at the moment"

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"My statement was that both sides suck , not that racist people don't exist. I made that pretty clear."

So, pretending that both sides don't suck is what has us in this mess at the moment, not the elements doing the actual sucking?

7/15/2016 12:20:12 PM

^^From your perspective, What level of evidence/proof is needed before an incident with a black victim is assumed racist?

[Edited on July 15, 2016 at 12:22 PM. Reason : .]

7/15/2016 12:22:10 PM

[Edited on July 15, 2016 at 12:27 PM. Reason : .]

7/15/2016 12:26:30 PM

I wish liberals and the POTUS would defend police officers half as aggressively as they defend Muslims.

After an ISIS shooting, the response is “This doesn’t represent ISLAM, there are many more peaceful Muslims than terrorist”.
After a police shooting, the response is “This IS representative of our RACIST society and police”. (Before due process even starts).

If an American shot up a Mosque, we all know the left would immediately attribute it to “Islamaphobia” and conservative rhetoric.

When anti-cop, anti-white crazies target cops, you can’t help but wonder if it may not have happened if the media/left didn’t create such a hostile atmosphere for cops so irresponsibly.

To act as if these headline cases are representative of the American justice system, to act as if race is the primary factor, is deliberate ignorance and it is absolutely irresponsible. That’s the divider in chief for you folks, can’t miss an opportunity to tell your voter base they are oppressed victims that need big government, or to mention that only big government needs the big guns.

7/15/2016 12:27:21 PM

I wouldn't say "rioting against", that implies that lawlessness was part of the protest against police brutality. It was just a bunch of poor thugs acting like animals because they hate their lives, completely separate from the "protesting against" that received zero media coverage in comparison.

In this case Charleston is "protesting against racism" since I guess you can't protest against 21 year old dumbass rednecks.

I mean if this video constitutes "shit like this" where someone doesn't listen to a cop and bad stuff happens, who cares? If a thug attacks a cop and dies... who cares? The only reason this is even on the news is because its white cop on black suspect.

Black Lives Matter, only when a white cop pulls the trigger...Or when we can use it for political gain (George Soros/Hilary Clinton).

7/15/2016 12:37:50 PM