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HaLo
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I saw a lot of good things yesterday and today. Lots to be excited about from a young team with three missing players.

11/21/2016 11:08:26 PM

Kickstand
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Does anyone know if we get a third place banner for the RBC Center? That Paradise Jam logo would look good in the rafters.

11/21/2016 11:10:21 PM

ncsuftw1
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Beside these?


Also, no, because we haven't played in that arena by that name in 4 years

11/21/2016 11:20:23 PM

Kickstand
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My bad, man. Is it the Ian C. Dunne Pee and See arena now?

And yes, beside those. ^

11/21/2016 11:37:54 PM

Jrb599
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St. Joe's game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EC_p4cYOwQ

11/22/2016 12:27:54 PM

ncsuftw1
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i believe that is the official name yes.

11/22/2016 12:28:06 PM

The E Man
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saw superdudes post on my phone at the time and just now found it again
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"They are nowhere near one of the worst backcourts in the ACC. I know you're qualifying by saying 'right now', but that's something you can say when we're in the heart of ACC play, not 4 games into the season. "

there are 15 teams so i would say top 5 would be one of the best and bottom 5 would be one of the worst. Are you sure they are "nowhere near" being the 11th best backcourt in the acc? I haven't seen enough play but I know there are 6 that are clearly better and don't think it would be such a stretch to find 4 more playing better thus far.

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"However, right or wrong, it is a totally feasible strategy to focus harder on one side of the ball and hope that you have the talent to outscore the opponent. It works in the NBA. "

no. its not feasible and doesn't work on any level. period. the best nba teams are always in the top half defensively.

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" I'd rather watch a 96-86 game than a 60-54 snoozefest."

I'd rather have a "snoozefest" and win than lose a shootout. Watching teams play defence is actually exciting to me. To me, the all star game is a snoozefest because I'm bored watching people do free layups. That is the difference with casual basketball fans.

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"The uptempo philosophy is more pleasing to recruits. Hate the system all you want, but you'll just have to agree to disagree about the winning formula in college basketball."

You can play uptempo and play defence. This is not about tempo at all. Teams who know they are bad at defence, have to use tempo to help their defence.

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"Giving up 112 points is a total team effort, not something that be squarely blamed on the backcourt, even if defensive breakdowns start with them. "

Outstanding backcourt play would have prevented giving up 112. Like you said, 112 is a total team failure which means the whole teams sucked at defense.


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"Yeah, unheard of except for yesterday it damn near happened 4 times

Long Beach State=77, UCLA=114
New Hampshire=41, West Virginia=100 (not quite 112)
The Citadel=63, Iowa State=130
NCSU=94, Creighton=112"


I said unheard of unless its a powerhouse playing a cupcake. we are not supposed to be a cupcake. We should be on the level of creighton iowa state and wvu

NOT CITADEL AND NEW HAMPSHIRE

11/23/2016 12:21:02 PM

dmspack
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didn't unc drop 100+ on OK St last night?

11/23/2016 12:26:15 PM

SuperDude
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Quote :
"there are 15 teams so i would say top 5 would be one of the best and bottom 5 would be one of the worst. Are you sure they are "nowhere near" being the 11th best backcourt in the acc? I haven't seen enough play but I know there are 6 that are clearly better and don't think it would be such a stretch to find 4 more playing better thus far."


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"I know you're qualifying by saying 'right now', but that's something you can say when we're in the heart of ACC play, not 4 games into the season."


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"no. its not feasible and doesn't work on any level. period. the best nba teams are always in the top half defensively.
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The best teams play well on both sides of the ball. If being offensive minded wasn't feasible and didn't work at any level, it wouldn't exist. Needless to say, it does.

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"I'd rather have a "snoozefest" and win than lose a shootout. Watching teams play defence is actually exciting to me. To me, the all star game is a snoozefest because I'm bored watching people do free layups. That is the difference with casual basketball fans."


I'm with you about ASGs. However, you're insinuating that a shootout = bad defense when it could just as easily equate to good offense. In my experience snoozefests come as a result of coaches fully intending to minimize possessions by milking the shot clock. Some of that Hoosiers-era pass 8 times before shooting crap, or dribble around the backcourt until it gets to 15, then start running a play. Add to the fact that talent that can't hit shots when they actually execute and get open. That's not good defense, that's a strategy. I'll always have an appreciation for teams with good defense when it's there.

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You can play uptempo and play defence. This is not about tempo at all. Teams who know they are bad at defence, have to use tempo to help their defence. "


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"you'll just have to agree to disagree about the winning formula in college basketball. "

11/23/2016 2:04:35 PM

synapse
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SuperDude's gonna spend Thanksgiving getting Earl'd

11/23/2016 2:31:14 PM

SuperDude
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Nah, I got better things to do. I'll respond again if his arguments have a little more merit, but I ain't holdin' my breath.

11/23/2016 2:43:44 PM

TreeTwista10
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how in the fuck did Jaybee get suspended?

[Edited on November 23, 2016 at 3:29 PM. Reason : .]

11/23/2016 3:18:14 PM

ncsuallday
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Democracy

11/23/2016 4:14:18 PM

HOOPS SHALOM
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This place has been super nice since that suspension. A much more pleasant TDub experience indeed.

11/23/2016 4:59:12 PM

TreeTwista10
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^^yet E Fellow isn't suspended?

11/23/2016 6:50:01 PM

The E Man
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im like one of the few people talking about xoxo on this board. people literally came in the unc game thread and said something like "shut up talking about football and post spam"

11/23/2016 7:08:47 PM

rwoody
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That's the same tired excuse jb used

11/23/2016 8:13:19 PM

The E Man
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except he's a tennessee fan talking shit about state and I'm a state fan talking about how we can get better.

11/23/2016 8:17:41 PM

SSS
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JayBee was so desperate for attention that it was distracting and embarrassing to watch. That's worse than straight trolling, imo.

11/23/2016 9:47:27 PM

Flyin Ryan
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"Old Spice Champions"

you know what that means?

we're the champions of deodorant!

11/23/2016 10:03:37 PM

HOOPS SHALOM
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E-Man is nothing like Jaybee. Jaybee was just kinda overwhelmingly awful. His poasts just suffocated every thread he popped into. He was like a thread terrorist.

E-man is often insightful, and when he is trolling he at least offers some good Devil's Advocate type points to back it all up.

11/24/2016 1:46:37 PM

justinh524
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GLENN WILKES BOOTH

11/24/2016 1:50:01 PM

ncsuallday
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lol thread terrorist

Yeah jibbles derailed threads, openly disrespected the state of NC, the university, Raleigh, the fans, etc. then he played the victim card.

E fellow for however much I may disagree with him actually contributes to the discourse.

11/24/2016 5:56:01 PM

justinh524
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I enjoyed jibbles.

11/24/2016 6:32:48 PM

SSS
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You must be a glutton for punishment. His spewings ranged from deranged to embarrassingly pathetic.

[Edited on November 24, 2016 at 7:59 PM. Reason : sss]

11/24/2016 7:59:17 PM

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