Yeah, I would keep Vermiglio at LT and put Crisp at RT. Mattes seems to have found a spot at RG, unless the coaches think he'd make a better RT.

I actually think we could redshirt Crisp, if you think about our line like this:

LT - Vermiglio
LG - Wallace
C - Wentz/Crawford
RG - Allen
RT - Mattes

Not sure about our depth, but we have guys like Cristophe, Chandler (assuming he makes it in), Good, and Jones currently redshirting.

I like our young talent a lot and I think we'll have a dominant line in another two years (once O'Brien's OL recruits have redshirted and played a couple years)

9/24/2009 10:26:59 AM

whoever is best will probably play.

9/24/2009 10:40:33 AM

^^That OL sounds pretty sweet. I can't wait til our younger guys are juniors/seniors. It'd be nice to have a dominant OL for once.

9/24/2009 10:42:58 AM

Speaking of Centers, is anyone else surprised by this?? I can't claim to be an Oline expert, but it surprised me: http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/C.php

Quote :

" Top C Rankings 1. J.D. Walton Baylor 6-3 305 5.25 2. Matt Tennant Boston College 6-4 294 5.15 3. Ted Larsen North Carolina State 6-2 300 5.25 "

9/24/2009 10:48:46 AM

^ No, I'm not really surprised. People have been projecting Lawson to be one of the top centers in this draft class since late last year. After he got over his initial hiking issues, he was money. Plus he's got good pedigree having been coached by O'Brien and Horton for two years. I wonder if they recruited Tennant as well...

9/24/2009 11:01:51 AM

what kind of coaching staff can take a defensive lineman and make him one of the top centers in the nation over the span of a year?! Freaking A dude.

9/24/2009 1:13:03 PM

2010 Football Scholarship Offers:
Bold = Commit

Map Link:
http://tinyurl.com/packmap

QB
No Offers

RB
**** Mustafa Greene (Irmo HS) Columbia, SC 6-0/200
*** Tobais Palmer (Georgia Military) Milledgeville, GA 5-10/165 via (Northwood HS) Pittsboro, NC
*** James White (St. Thomas Aquinas HS) Fort Lauderdale, FL 5-11/190/4.50
*** James Holland (East Lee County HS) Lehigh Acres, FL 5-10/190/4.55

FB
**** Zach Zwinak (Linganore HS) Frederick, MD 6-2/225/4.50
*** Logan Winkles (Upson-Lee HS) Thomaston, GA 6-1/245/4.70

WR
**** Tony Creecy (Southern HS) Durham, NC 6-0/190

TE
No Offers

OT
***** Robert Crisp (Athens Drive HS) Raleigh, NC 6-8/290
**** Matt James (St. Xavier HS) Cincinnati, OH 6-7/260
**** Robby Havenstein (Linganore HS) Frederick, MD 6-7/340
**** Skyler Schofner (Big Walnut HS) Sunbury, OH 6-6/281/5.17
*** Demarco Cox (Yazoo City HS) Yazoo City, MS 6-8/300 Ole Miss
*** Jack Deboef (State College Area HS) State College, PA 6-7/265
*** Max Garcia (Norcross HS) Norcross, GA 6-4.5/265

OG
No Offers

C
*** Torian Box (North Clayton HS) College Park, GA 6-3/294/5.31

DT
**** Fre'Shad Hunter (Cary HS) Cary, NC 6-3/250
**** Jibreel Black (Wyoming HS) Wyoming, OH 6-2/260/5.00 Indiana
*** Thomas Teal (Marlboro County HS) Bennettsville, SC 6-1.5/330/5.50
*** Ethan Farmer (South Columbus HS) Tabor City, NC 6-2/257/4.98
*** Michael Thornton (Stephenson HS) Stone Mountain, GA 6-1/275
*** Marty Everett (Butler County (KS)) El Dorado, KS 6-4/295
*** Brandon King (Stockbridge HS) Stockbridge, GA 6-4/270
*** Bjoern Werner (Salisbury School) Salisbury, CT 6-4/270/4.70
* Jerome Davis (Buford HS) Buford, GA 6-2/255
* Eric Young (Hillside HS) Durham, NC 6-2.5/360/5.72 Note:currently noncommitable offer

DE
***** J.R. Ferguson (St. John's at Prospect Hall) Frederick, MD 6-4/255
*** Kendrick Frazier (Denmark Olar HS) Denmark, SC 6-1/241/4.60

MLB
**** Justin Parker (Beaufort HS) Beaufort, SC 6-2/210
* Terrell Hartsfield (Hargrave Military Academy) Chatham, VA 6-3/215

OLB
**** Christian McCain (Page HS) Greensboro, NC 6-5.5/196/4.75
**** Christian Jones (Lake Howell HS) Winter Park, FL 6-4/215/4.70
**** Travis Williams (Lake Taylor HS) Norfolk, VA 6-2.5/200/4.60
*** Troy Gloster (Our Lady Good Counsel HS) Olney, MD 6-0/215/4.60
* Jeremy Grable (Milton HS) Alpharetta, GA 6-0/215

S
**** Keenan Allen (Northern Guilford) Greensboro, NC 6-3/195
**** David Amerson (Dudley HS) Greensboro, NC 6-2/180
*** D.J. Green (Westside HS) Macon, GA 6-4/202/4.77
*** P.J. Clyburn (West Iredell HS) Statesville, NC 6-1/205
*** Dontae Johnson (The Pennington School) Pennington, NJ 6-3/185/4.50
*** Ed Reynolds (Woodberry Forest School) Woodberry Forest, VA 6-2/191/4.51
** Pete Singer (Athens Drive HS) Raleigh, NC 5-11/175/4.50
* Chad Hagan (Canon-Mcmillan SHS) Canonsburg, PA 6-0/207/4.29 Ohio State

CB
**** Johnavon Fulton (Manning HS) Manning, SC 6-0/180/4.50
*** Reggie Wilkins (Crest Senior HS) Shelby, NC 5-11/180 UNC

K,P
No Offers


------------------------------------------STATISTICS------------------------------------------


Scholarships Count
14 Scholarships Available (Note: Just using the # of Seniors for now)
-8 2010 Commits
+4 Transferred/Left Program (Cunningham, Ellis, Simmons, Roberts)
-1 Michael Lemon
-------------------------------------
9 Scholarships Remaining

Recruiting Breakdown
OFFENSE
QB - 0
Backfield - 2
Receivers - 1
Linemen - 2
------------------
Total Offense - 5

DEFENSE
Linemen - 1
Linebackers - 0
Secondary - 2
------------------
Total Defense - 3

SPECIAL TEAMS
Kickers - 0

Geographical Diversity
Georgia - 3
North Carolina - 4
South Carolina - 1

Star Count (highest of the two sites)
5* - 1
4* - 1
3* - 5
2* - 1
1* - 0
--------------------
Average Stars - 3.25

[Edited on September 24, 2009 at 1:38 PM. Reason : ...]

9/24/2009 1:33:02 PM

HUNTER COMMITS FOLLOWING THE WIN

9/26/2009 8:50:13 PM

Quote :

"Speaking of Centers, is anyone else surprised by this?? I can't claim to be an Oline expert, but it surprised me: http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/C.php Quote : " Top C Rankings 1. J.D. Walton Baylor 6-3 305 5.25 2. Matt Tennant Boston College 6-4 294 5.15 3. Ted Larsen North Carolina State 6-2 300 5.25 " "

after that game, i am VERY fucking surprised

Larsen better thank wannstedt and stull from keeping that shit from being plastered all over sportscenter

9/26/2009 8:52:13 PM

^^I thought hunter wasn't going to qualify...?? Am I thinking of the wrong guy?

9/26/2009 9:07:54 PM

Whoo to Hunter committing. We've also got a new prospect on the board in former Duke commit and **** OLB Aramide Olaniyan.

Outside linebacker
Woodberry Forest, Virginia
Woodberry Forest School
Scout - **** - #9
Rivals - **** - #17

Schools Interested (known offers in italics)
Clemson
Duke
Michigan
North Carolina
North Carolina State
UCLA
Vanderbilt
Virginia
Miami (FL)
Notre Dame





[Edited on September 26, 2009 at 9:19 PM. Reason : ]

9/26/2009 9:15:07 PM

Quote :

"I thought hunter wasn't going to qualify...?? Am I thinking of the wrong guy?"

It's still in question. If he does qualify he'll be here, if not, he'll likely greyshirt

9/26/2009 9:18:11 PM

getting the hunter commit is big. he's always been high on us but word was that if he didnt get the grades this year he was just going to go to ECU. This may mean he's with us even if it takes a year at a prep school, but let's hope he's on campus next year. Big time commit after a big time W

9/26/2009 9:25:56 PM

^^^ Sounds like he is pretty much just waiting for Notre Dame to offer.

[Edited on September 26, 2009 at 9:52 PM. Reason : df]

9/26/2009 9:52:37 PM

4* DT Freshad Hunter committed tonight after the game


Also, rumors are, former UVA commit, QB Tyler Brosius will commit soon (he decommitted from UVA on Thursday).

http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/a.z?s=178&p=2&c=903183

9/26/2009 11:19:42 PM

9/26/2009 11:30:51 PM

Freshard Hunter looks like a beast hopes he gets his grades right so we can have him in Carter finley!!

9/26/2009 11:58:46 PM

Amerson got back from ND last weekend and did NOT commit. That's good stuff. Anyone heard anything on him?

9/27/2009 3:59:20 AM

Amerson has been really quiet. As far as everyone knows, we are still his top choice. As of yesterday, he did schedule an official visit to Chapel Hill when they play Miami. I wouldn't worry too much about that as he never listed them in his top 4 schools (State, ND, VaTech, and Clemson). Hopefully we will hear soon.

9/27/2009 12:49:56 PM

word on the street is that he is taking his OVs mainly b/c his coach wants him to enjoy the recruiting process.

9/27/2009 4:10:41 PM

Hunter's highlight tape on WPH is hilarious. It reminds me of the video of Denzelle Goode destroying guys half his size. Dude just comes unblocked and blows up the QB or runs through a tackle who's like 6'2 220 pounds

9/27/2009 4:15:36 PM

http://www.highschoolot.com/content/blogpost/6085983/

Fre'Shad article

9/27/2009 9:27:57 PM

Rumor: http://www.c-ville.com/index.php?cat=1991009093340154&act=post&pid=12462709093416033

Quote :

"We knew it was bound to happen as the Hoos have started 0-3 and rumors of Al Groh's future here in Charlottesville are negative to say the least. Apparently, Virginia has lost their first commitment for next season. Tyler Brosius has de-committed from UVA and committed to coach Tom O'Brien and NC State. At this point it's still just a rumor, but my sources say it's all but certain to happen very soon. Brosius (Tuscola High School) is a pro-style highly recruited QB from the western North Carolina town of Waynesville."

9/27/2009 9:41:35 PM

Pack wins in-state recruiting battle

http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/story/118486.html

Freshet Hunter? Anthony Crécy?

9/30/2009 10:44:30 AM

The weird thing is the same story ran in the Charlotte Observers on Monday, and it's all spelled right.

http://obsrecruiting.blogspot.com/2009/09/wolfpack-pulling-away-from-tar-heels-in.html

9/30/2009 11:02:57 AM

^^two points about that article...

1. When did creecy turn french?

2. The same article is written EVERY year. Last year, it was written about us. The year before, it was written about UNC. For the past decade, NC State and UNC have flip flopped years on who has owned NC in recruiting. Two years ago we got Barnes, Mattes, Manning, Maddox, etc. and we owned it. Last year UNC got Boyd and Moss, etc and owned it. So far, we have Hunter, Crisp and Creecy and are dominating. Same shit, different year. We'll get ours, they'll get theirs.......settle it on the field

9/30/2009 4:02:32 PM

Haha, the comments on the charlotte observer article are hilarious. The tarhole fans are all like "we're going after the national talent baby"...one dumbass goes so far as to say

Quote :

"And exactly when did NC become the be-all-end-all of HS football players? None of the NC or SC top 5 would even make the top 50 in Florida, California, Texas or many other states. I know NC natives would like to believe otherwise, but landing an NC or SC top 25 football player just isn't that great on a national scale."

Wat?

9/30/2009 6:17:42 PM

haha

Quote :

"In Butch, we trust.... TOB can have the little NC fishies, we are a National Program BABY!!"

this one is pretty solid

Quote :

"You might want to go easy on terms like "prodigous", since there are a lot of UNC SIDEWALK ALUMNI in here. (You know the type- they never finished HS, but are always yelling how much Duke, NCSU and Wake suck, blah blah blah.) Words like that are just going to sail over their heads, with all the precision and accuracy of a T.J. Yates pass attempt!"

[Edited on September 30, 2009 at 6:27 PM. Reason : .]

9/30/2009 6:25:55 PM

^^ What he's saying makes total sense. I mean it's not like the programs that recruit on a national scale, the USCs, LSUs, Floridas, and etc. of college football offer any NC recruits scholarships. Oh...wait...

/sarcasm

[Edited on September 30, 2009 at 6:31 PM. Reason : ^]

9/30/2009 6:31:35 PM

i saw alot of those comments from UNCCH fans.

the number of NC players alone that Notre Dame is plucking out defeats all their inane arguments.

10/1/2009 12:23:58 PM

Quote :

""And exactly when did NC become the be-all-end-all of HS football players? None of the NC or SC top 5 would even make the top 50 in Florida, California, Texas or many other states. I know NC natives would like to believe otherwise, but landing an NC or SC top 25 football player just isn't that great on a national scale.""

okay, FL, CA, TX, and NC in the latest Rivals rankings:

3. RB Lache Seastrunk (TX)
4. DE Ronald Powell (CA)
5. DE Jackson Jeffcoat (TX)
8. DB Keenan Allen (NC)
9. ATH Robert Woods (CA)
11. OL Rob Crisp (NC)
12. LB Jeff Luc (FL)
13. DB Matt Elam (FL)
19. DB LaMarcus Joyner (FL)
22. ATH Anthony Barr (CA)
23. DB Joshua Shaw (CA)
24. DE Reggie Wilson (TX)
26. RB Dillon Baxter (CA)
27. WR Darius White (TX)
29. [DE Gabe King (NC/OR)]
insert more here...
77. DE Alfy Hill (NC)
106. DE Fre'Shad Hunter (NC)
159. LB Chris McCain (NC)
162. WR Anthony Creecy (NC)
225. LB Prince Shembo (NC)


so, in CA:
Allen 2nd; Crisp 4th; [King 8th]; Hill 15th; Hunter 20th; McCain 30th; Creecy 31st; Shembo 40th

in FL:
Allen 1st; Crisp 2nd; [King 6th]; Hill 17th; Hunter 25th; McCain 32nd; Creecy 33rd; Shembo 46th

in TX:
Allen 3rd; Crisp 4th; [King 7th]; Hill 11th; Hunter 18th; McCain 27th; Creecy 29th; Shembo 36th

got any other states you want to try?

10/1/2009 12:40:00 PM

So, if by some odd chance, BD's deal with satan works out to land Lattimore, UNC fans wouldn't be nutting all over themselves b/c he's from SC?

10/1/2009 12:50:10 PM

^stop worrying about the Bullshit UNC football throws out there. I've heard excuses saying that since they don't have many scholarships to handout, they're being pickier about who they offer. Yeah fuckin right. Go look at the number of fucks they've offered on scout.....their whole first two pages are about full of offers.

10/1/2009 5:41:51 PM

Rob Crisp is escorting my girlfriends sister tonight at Athens Drive homecoming... can't wait to see him dominate. should be cool to see if singer plays too.

10/2/2009 2:13:51 PM

Quote :

" "We knew it was bound to happen as the Hoos have started 0-3 and rumors of Al Groh's future here in Charlottesville are negative to say the least. Apparently, Virginia has lost their first commitment for next season. Tyler Brosius has de-committed from UVA and committed to coach Tom O'Brien and NC State. At this point it's still just a rumor, but my sources say it's all but certain to happen very soon. Brosius (Tuscola High School) is a pro-style highly recruited QB from the western North Carolina town of Waynesville." "

I think this guy is coming from the same high school that Crompton from Tennessee went to. Not to mention Crompton was a 4 star recruit coming out of high school and this guy is only a 3 star. Sure I know stars dont mean anything, but Crompton is so damn horrific, the idea of someone bringing us back down to that level at the quaterback position is just depressing. I dont think anyone had mentioned this.

10/2/2009 2:20:08 PM

^Are you really trying to draw a comparison like that??

10/2/2009 2:56:10 PM

Quote :

"I think this guy is coming from the same high school that Crompton from Tennessee went to"

well clearly that means he is just as terrible if not worse

Quote :

"the idea of someone bringing us back down to that level at the quaterback position is just depressing."

first off, he hasn't even officially de-committed so it's all speculation at this point, and secondly he is at best third in line to start after Wilson so it's not even something that's remotely worth worrying about at this point. I don't think I even need to point out how idiotic it is to assume that one QB from a high school sucking in college means all QBs from that high school will suck in college, do I?

10/2/2009 3:19:53 PM

Obviously it's not Crompton that sucks but Lane Kiffin and the University of Tenn. that make him suck.

10/2/2009 3:34:50 PM

I was just trying to point something out, it is possible that the system that the school runs produces quarterbacks with what seems to be a favorable skill set and stats. It does happen in college. I hope the kid, if he comes to State, is an amazing athlete. The reason this jumped out at me btw is because I live in Knoxville now and have to hear the people bitch and moan about Crompton all the time, so the school name look familiar. That is all.

10/2/2009 3:44:26 PM

Quote :

"it is possible that the system that the school runs produces quarterbacks with what seems to be a favorable skill set and stats"

It's possible, but unless you have more evidence than just Crompton it's not believable at all. You can't just assume that that is what's going on unless there are numerous examples. Besides, for all you know that HS could have a different coach than when Crompton was in HS.

10/2/2009 4:05:17 PM

i thin TOB has a proven track record and system of offering QBs
plus, if he commits to us he will at least 3rd on the depth chart even after redshirting a year

10/2/2009 4:48:20 PM

Brosius committed today.

10/2/2009 8:53:34 PM

woot

10/2/2009 8:57:02 PM

http://blogs.citizen-times.com/blogs/index.php?blog=15

10/2/2009 9:19:43 PM

Um, so does anyone know if this guy is any good?

10/3/2009 12:12:23 AM

Video of Brosius in action

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyfSz-3T6EA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4zpCg9VD8E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o__VIzImov8

10/3/2009 12:14:18 AM

Tyler Brosius
Pro-style quarterback
Waynesville, North Carolina
Tuscola Senior

Rivals - *** - #26 Pro-style QB - #20 overall in NC
Scout - *** - #76 QB

Schools Interested (known offers in italics)
North Carolina State
East Carolina
Elon
Maryland
Pittsburgh
UCF
Virginia
Western Carolina
North Carolina
Tennessee




You can thank Coach McCollum on this one. Dude needs to do something with that haircut, or he's going to get a lot of shit.

10/3/2009 12:44:59 AM

Come on...he's from Western North Carolina...you know his mom has probably been cutting his hair with a pair of scissors his entire life

I'm sure he will be able to find someone who at least has a razor here in Raleigh.

10/3/2009 1:01:35 AM

So by the dude from the western part of the state by his first year, do you think O'brien would Redshirt him since glennon would only be a Soph., and Wilson will be a Jr....


Woo-hoo quality QB's for the first time since 2002..the good teams know how to keep 'em rolling! GO PACK!

10/3/2009 1:10:01 AM

He's definitely going to be redshirted.

10/3/2009 1:13:59 AM