Mark 71

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"Both my sig 225 and 228 have made in west Germany stamped on them."

so are you can confirm the coolness

1/25/2010 5:49:44 PM

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"Sounds good, I need to find some .40 first. I'll give you a peek at what my company's been working on. You'll like it."

wal-marts in the area have an overabundance of .40 and .223. what they don't have is anything else.

1/25/2010 10:09:18 PM

I get it for the same price or cheaper than walmart, and can sell it to him for less as well, and in bulk quantities.

1/25/2010 11:11:04 PM

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"shot my buddy's Walther PPK the other day, neat little gun. DA pull was long but the SA was crisp with practically no reset. Purt damn accurate too, hit 4" steel at 25 yards every time. I'll be honest, it was pretty cool shooting a gun that had "Made in W. Germany" stamped on the slide as well"

7.65mm? I looked all over and picked up a 1964 PPK a few years back just because I heard that the .380 S&W models really sacrificed reliability for the larger caliber.

Did you take a chunk out of your thumb with the slide on the first shot?

1/26/2010 12:06:34 AM

Yup, 7.65 x 17mm . . . and no, my fingers remain intact. I'm a big fan of the thumbs forward grip, so I avoided that It did gently graze me on the first shot though.

1/26/2010 9:39:26 AM

9mm sig for $479 , good deal?

1/26/2010 4:03:26 PM

what model?

1/26/2010 4:33:31 PM

I bought my P226 9mm used for $500...thought that was a fair price.

1/26/2010 5:51:40 PM

for a p226, that's not bad


if I were to spend 500 on a semi auto polymer gun though, it'd be a M&P 9 (American made and it shoots really consistently for me)


just personal preference (which is all it really comes down to)- I love my Taurus, but that is because I'm used to the long trigger pull now and it just feels comfortable to me

1/26/2010 6:28:32 PM

ehh not sure what model, but I decided to go with the Glock 19 9mm anyways.

1/26/2010 7:10:21 PM

good choice.

1/26/2010 7:45:01 PM

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"I get it for the same price or cheaper than walmart, and can sell it to him for less as well, and in bulk quantities."

well hook me up.

what brand and prices? any other calibers?

1/27/2010 12:13:23 AM

Well, I have 1k of .40 coming and 500 rounds of .223 inbound.
I can sell that for the same cost as walmart, but you can buy as much as you want. If I sell it all, then I will just buy more. I don't mind selling it at cost, because I get 1% back on my credit card.

I'll be putting in an order for 9mm in the next week or two. I can save on shipping if people agree to pay up front and I order in larger quantities.

1/27/2010 12:20:13 AM

New or reloads?

On another note.

Does anyone know if Georgia Arms sells reloads or new or both?

Their website does not say (unless I am blind).

[Edited on January 27, 2010 at 12:47 AM. Reason : d]

1/27/2010 12:47:14 AM

All mine is new stuff, brass case.


Georgia arms is a commercial reloader. I have run a mixed 2k of the canned heat and had no problems.
I believe you can also purchase new ammo from them, but it is more expensive.

[Edited on January 27, 2010 at 1:13 AM. Reason : .]

1/27/2010 1:12:20 AM

So, I have made some progress on my AR build. I need to pick a barrel now, and then some hand guards. I'm going with a FF quad rail in 10'' I believe, but I don't know what brand yet. Its going to be a mid-length gas system.

Yankee Hill A3 upper
Spikes Tactical stripped lower
Daniel Defense LPK
LMT Full-Auto BCG
LMT Charging Handle
Magpul MIAD Full grip kit in FDE
Magpul CTR milspec in FDE

2/3/2010 6:05:50 PM

Looks sharp man.

2/3/2010 11:07:01 PM

Good on going middy. If you decide you're after plain ol' hanguards and not the rail thing, the Magpul MOE handguard is very nice. For a rail, the YHM rails are the best bang for your buck, IMO.

[Edited on February 4, 2010 at 10:36 AM. Reason : .]

2/4/2010 10:35:25 AM

Ordered rails last night. I was deciding between MI, YHM, and Troy. I ended up getting the MI-T10 rails in FDE.

A mid length pencil barrel will be available in two weeks, and I may hold out for that. I can save $100 if I go with a mid weight profile though. I'm just not sure yet.

2/4/2010 10:52:08 AM

Anyone on here ever been unable to get the stock off a gun? I have a generic 12 ga Mossberg that is freaking impossible to get off. Just looking for any tips before I put a pole on the handle of a pipe wrench (connected to the screwdriver) and torque the living shit out of the bolt in the end.

2/4/2010 1:31:55 PM

shouldn't need anything like that... is the bolt just that tight?

2/4/2010 1:59:50 PM

It's probably rusted on.
I've had to use a wrench before to break one loose, but it wasn't that difficult with a wrench.
Maybe stick a little penetrating oil on it. The last thing you want to do is screw up the screw slot torquing it too much.

[Edited on February 4, 2010 at 2:55 PM. Reason : BTW, are you sure it's a screw and not a bolt? I don't remember if my Mossberg was a screw or bolt]

2/4/2010 2:54:54 PM

I didn't have a problem getting mine off, but when trying to put on an aftermarket collapsable stock, I actually have to do some machining to both the gun and the bracket the kit came with- took me 2 days to put on a damn stock just because I didn't anticipate it being such a PITA

2/4/2010 3:21:55 PM

Was down at Arrington's in Greensboro, they had several P220's in .45 some with cases and extra magazines others without. Guy behind the counter said they were all LEO trade ins but wasn't sure from where. All around 450-500.

2/4/2010 3:41:35 PM

they had those at Lawmens' too. Some were excellent condition while most were good.
A few had bobbed hammers, idk if they were DAK triggers though.

I've wanted a 220 but damn...I have too many guns and another Sig just doesn't make sense.

2/4/2010 4:45:15 PM

I keep saying that too but I always wind up with something new.

2/4/2010 7:07:35 PM

Posted this in TSB, but I'll post it here:

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=8d3b076bd4de14bbda5aba699e80621d&tab=core&_cview=1&cck=1&au=&ck=

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"The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) intends to purchase sixty Remington Model 870 Police RAMAC #24587 12 gauge pump-action shotguns for the Criminal Investigation Division. The Remington parkerized shotguns, with fourteen inch barrel, modified choke, Wilson Combat Ghost Ring rear sight and XS4 Contour Bead front sight, Knoxx Reduced Recoil Adjustable Stock, and Speedfeed ribbed black forend, are designated as the only shotguns authorized for IRS duty based on compatibility with IRS existing shotgun inventory, certified armorer and combat training and protocol, maintenance, and parts."

Now, I read somewhere else that for citizens, 18 inches is the limit for a shotgun barrel, but these are 14 inches, and that a small barrel like that would be used specifically for combat situations...like busting down a door/entry. Admittedly, I know very little about guns, but maybe someone here knows more.

2/5/2010 11:05:48 AM

smaller barrels are just more maneuverable in close quarters

2/5/2010 11:17:35 AM

Yes, the legal minimum barrel length is 18 inches with an overall minimum length of 26 inches.
Citizens can own short barreled shotguns (<18") so long as the jump through the legal hoops to get them.

2/5/2010 11:38:12 AM

What in god's name does the IRS need entry guns for?

2/5/2010 12:06:41 PM

Umm...if I was trying to collect money I'd want to bring a gun.
Might as well bring a badass gun.

[Edited on February 5, 2010 at 12:22 PM. Reason : ]

2/5/2010 12:22:25 PM

The feds are running out of money, will extract it from us any way they can.

2/5/2010 1:53:59 PM

True. An SBS is the only NFA item I'd like to own. I'm obsessed with owning a cutdown Browning Auto-5.

2/5/2010 2:23:46 PM

Anyone have an AR15 Action Block that I can borrow for a barrel and rail install?

2/5/2010 11:56:35 PM

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"What in god's name does the IRS need entry guns for?"

People who don't pay the NFA tax?

2/6/2010 12:52:59 AM

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"Anyone have an AR15 Action Block that I can borrow for a barrel and rail install?"

I wish I did. Nice progress on your lower. I'll be interested in hearing about the barrel install.

2/6/2010 5:48:12 PM

Anyone own or have first hand experience with the Kahr P9?

The PM9 is a little too small for me, but the P9 felt good. I really liked the slim profile for daily carry. One guy at a gun shop really praised it and had lots of nice things to say. The next gun shop i went to told me to avoid the Kahr completely.


other than that i held a lot of guns today. The decision just gets harder. so many options

[Edited on February 6, 2010 at 7:12 PM. Reason : add]

2/6/2010 7:09:20 PM

that is really all you need to do- just go through and hold/fire everything you can (that is in and slightly above your price rage)



you will hear good and bad things about every gun out there, but do good searches on what you are hearing. I'd stay away from things that had repeated reliability issues, but there are such things as lemons, even in the gun industry (ex: friend has an EMP that he has already sent back once and is still jamming up on him- does not change the fact that it is a very highly rated and recommended small carry pistol, but he will probably never buy one again)

2/8/2010 6:17:54 AM

the Springfield EMP? Which one of the guys owns that one??? I didn't find one to hold this past weekend but they look good.

My brother fell in love with the Colt New Agent which is similar.


Right now i like the following
Springfield XD
Kahr P9
Sig Sauer 250
S&W MP Compact 9mm
Bersa Thunder .380

and for a revolver option
Ruger SP101

[Edited on February 8, 2010 at 9:02 AM. Reason : add]

2/8/2010 8:57:06 AM

^I would drop the XD and the Sig P250 immediately. They are the largest of your options, for one, and the P250 has a long, heavy, DA trigger that is either love or hate.

2/8/2010 11:05:12 AM

I'm assuming this is for CC?

Springfield XD - the compact/subcompact are good options but probably bigger than most
Kahr P9 - decent option
Sig Sauer 250 - expensive and slightly larger than most
S&W MP Compact 9mm - not sure (not very familiar with this one; but bound to be a good carry piece)
Bersa Thunder .380 - small, inexpensive, but cheaply made (I have one)... if you have money to spend, don't go with this as your main CC (I do right now... if I had money & CCd more, I'd get a better peice)

all of those (except for the bersa) are good or better firearms and would be on my list of firearms to carry

[Edited on February 8, 2010 at 11:10 AM. Reason : .]

2/8/2010 11:08:00 AM

good feedback, i appreciate it.

I saw and held so many guns over the weekend that I had forgotten about that long trigger pull on the Sig250. That was the one thing i disliked the most.

^yeah, my brother recommended the Bersa as a value piece if i wanted to scale back and save a little money. They had the single stacked version as well as the plus, which had a double stacked clip. I would just assume move up to 9mm at that point as you begin losing the space saving advantage of the .380.

2/8/2010 11:15:13 AM

yeh, double stacks can start to get wide. personally, I wouldn't go with one because it becomes too big and makes it uncomfortable to carry (for me). .380 is a good SD round, but I'm not sure how much space it saves.... it's the same diameter as a 9 (in fact, it's a 9x17 round, where as most 9mm now are 9x19)

[Edited on February 8, 2010 at 11:43 AM. Reason : \/ thanks. 9x19, not x18. must have russia on the mind ]

2/8/2010 11:19:07 AM

^9mm is 9x19, not 18

2/8/2010 11:25:56 AM

My next Concealed Carry class will be February 20th from 9am to ~7pm. This includes 8 hrs of classroom instruction, a 1hr break for lunch, some practice time on the range, as well as the shooting proficiency exam. The cost will be $60/person. PM me if you're interested.

2/8/2010 4:17:15 PM

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"S&W MP Compact 9mm"

one of my favorite 9mm compact guns- shot with it a couple of times, accurate every time (more so than my 24/7) and it felt good, and smaller than the 24/7 so it would be better for CC

then again, I'm a bigger dude, so CC with a larger gun isn't that big of a deal for me


out of that list, it would be my favorite

2/8/2010 10:21:57 PM

About to refinish a walnut 10/22 stock just for fun. Anyone seen any nice restos on them? If so, post up links. A quick search revealed a refinish of a birch stock which I can get pretty cheap off eBay. I may go that route if I can't get a good look out of this walnut one. I might go with a dark chocolate or even black stain on the walnut stock, but if I go birch I'll make it as light as possible with a little hint of color. This gun also has a few rust spots on the barrel that I need to take care of if anyone has any recommendations. I really haven't spent much time looking into it yet.

p.s., I'd like to pick up a big magazine for it if anyone has one for sale.

[Edited on February 8, 2010 at 11:29 PM. Reason : l]

2/8/2010 11:28:05 PM

^i think i have a butler creek 25 rd. magazine i don't use. $10?

[Edited on February 9, 2010 at 8:14 AM. Reason : it might be in goldsboro, but i can pick it up this weekend when i'm down there]

2/9/2010 8:13:47 AM

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"and for a revolver option Ruger SP101"

meant to reply to this earlier- my regular CC is now my S&W 642 airweight .38... it is a great little revolver, and I know others on her will agree with me



also, have you looked at any of the micro guns? like the LCP, TCP, Keltec's, etc....

and if you were gonna look at a revolver from ruger- check out their LCR

2/9/2010 8:32:03 AM

I don't want a macro or pocket gun because with some other things i'm trying to afford this year, a house being the main one, i doubt i'll be getting too many guns. So i want one that i can carry daily but also not get burnt out with it at the range. I do dig the Ruger LCP though, that's a pretty sweet little piece.

^i'll be up there this weekend so i'm sure we'll get a chance to discuss this some more. But i do like that 642. Though i'd like an exposed hammer, even for CC. The 637 with the crimson trace laser grip is very nice and almost identical to what i was holding in the Ruger SP101, except the Ruger is .357



[Edited on February 9, 2010 at 8:54 AM. Reason : add]

2/9/2010 8:42:13 AM