moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
The republicans have been doing an effective job of keeping the marginal democrat majority in check.
I don't think you have too much to worry about with runaway liberalism.
I would like to see pelosi gone though, she really, really scares me. She's like the leftist version of bush, very ideological, but also very unintelligent. 10/18/2008 11:17:18 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53063 Posts user info edit post |
ummm, if the dumbocrats get that "super-majority," then there is nothing the minority 'pubs can do, you know that, right? 10/18/2008 11:24:52 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
that's how it works theoretically, but there's more than one way to skin a cat. 10/18/2008 11:25:47 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
http://jamesfallows.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/10/on_obamas_steadiness.php
Here's an article about something I too have noticed about Obama.
he does remain pretty even, almost in a creepy way.
[Edited on October 18, 2008 at 11:47 PM. Reason : ] 10/18/2008 11:46:43 PM |
carzak All American 1657 Posts user info edit post |
^I hadn't ever really thought about it, but I think his cool temperament speaks to his good upbringing, intelligence, and education. I don't think there is anything calculated about it. If you want to see calculated, look at Hillary.
Quote : | "I also am amazed, honestly, that Obama has used these debates to UTTERLY reverse his public persona from the great lofty orator with few specifics to the down-in-the-numbers reassuring policy wonk " |
Yeah, it was funny that no one really commented on this after the first debate. I was thinking afterwards, 'Wait a minute, what was all that about this guy lacking specifics?'10/19/2008 1:28:10 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ that's true, you don't hear complaints anymore about lack of specifics. 10/19/2008 1:32:25 AM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "nice. don't even have the balls to support your candidate. good work, man" |
you mean i have the balls to keep myself unrestrained within partisan lines.10/19/2008 1:39:15 PM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
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aaronburro Sup, B 53063 Posts user info edit post |
hur, I wasn't talking to you. 10/19/2008 3:08:12 PM |
TKEshultz All American 7327 Posts user info edit post |
pot
kettle
black 10/19/2008 4:08:15 PM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
early voting in NC looking good for Obama
Quote : | "Across the state, Democrats showed the most first-day enthusiasm. Of the nearly 114,000 first-day voters, 64 percent were Democrats, 21 percent Republicans and 15 percent were unaffiliated.
African-American turnout was up significantly. Black voters, who make up about 22 percent of registered voters, were 36 percent of Thursday’s early voters.
In 2004, blacks made up 18.6 percent of voters." |
http://donklephant.com/2008/10/18/early-voting-in-north-carolina/10/19/2008 6:04:41 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
lol at the name of that site..."donklephant"...gonna bookmark that 10/19/2008 6:06:51 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
I do not understand how people can see politics and solely vote down party lines unless they are a member of some candidates team or they are just stupid.
There are to many issues and so much complexity; simply choosing a candidate by a -R or a -D is honestly absurd. Perhaps we should have an intelligence test in order to vote.
This year its looking like my voting ballot is going as follows
Obama -D (President) McCrory -R (NC gov) Kay Hagan -D (Senator) Michael Lee -R (NC Senator for Wilmington) 10/19/2008 7:28:02 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53063 Posts user info edit post |
welp, ask the negroes about straight-party voting, cause they are about as guilty of it as anyone. Them and backwoods hicks 10/19/2008 8:18:58 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
^^other than the dude from wilmington those are the folks i'm voting for as well 10/19/2008 8:28:34 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
As if we needed more reasons why Petrobucks Palin is bad for America. . .
Palin hometown a window into her environmentalism
Quote : | "Long before John McCain made Gov. Sarah Palin his running mate and before her views on global warming became a campaign issue, Palin's environmental priorities were crystallized in a city where she was mayor and where development long has trumped conservation.
Palin declared Wasilla "open for business," and business rushed in: Dozens of strip malls sprung up along the city's two glacial lakes.
The costs of such fast _ and sometimes haphazard _ growth can be seen even from Palin's lakefront home. Once-pristine Lake Lucille is plagued by high levels of phosphorous, which chokes off oxygen from the salmon and trout. Scientists put the blame on nearby development.
Palin refined her pro-business attitudes after becoming governor in 2006. Faced with choosing between development and the environment, she has sided more often than not with business interests:
_She helped kill a ballot initiative that would have blocked a massive new gold and copper mine from being built near the world's most productive wild salmon fishery.
_She challenged the listing of the polar bear and Cook Inlet beluga whale as endangered species. The listings might have threatened the state's oil and gas industry.
_Her administration helped kill a bill banning water pollution near where fish spawn.
_She started a committee to address global warming. But with oil companies contributing the largest percentage of the state's greenhouse gases, her committee set no goal for reducing emissions. Unlike other states, Alaska's climate change priority is focused on ways to adapt to warmer temperatures.
In a state where oil, gas, mining and fishing are among the biggest industries, her pro-business mind-set often puts her at odds with environmentalists.
Yet when thinking green did not jeopardize jobs or growth, she has been a leader. She pushed for $250 million in renewable energy research and an additional $60 million in rebates for Alaskans to make their homes energy efficient.
In Wasilla, being pro-business was necessary. When Palin took office as mayor in 1996, the region's 10.3 percent unemployment rate was one-third higher than the state's and twice that of Anchorage.
Palin gave people what they wanted: jobs that did not require an hourlong commute to Anchorage, 44 miles to the south, or monthlong stints on the frigid North Slope oil fields. She supported business-friendly tax policies that, coupled with Wasilla's cheap land and limited development restrictions, made the city attractive to big box retailers.
"There used to be a stop sign right at the main _ well, it's hard to explain what the main intersection is. You can't even tell anymore," said Gary LoRusso, a Wasilla real estate agent and surveyor who moved to Alaska in the 1980s.
In Palin's first two years as mayor, the city handed out more land-use permits than ever. Population grew 25 percent on her watch, and the city became increasingly dependent on its sales tax.
Now, all that asphalt sends storm water rushing into the city's creeks and lakes, along with occasional garbage. Scientists have noted diseased salmon and excessive levels of bacteria, petroleum and sediment in the water.
The retail crush finally cost the city its biggest attraction this year, when officials permanently moved the start of the Iditarod sled dog race to a more rural setting, citing Wasilla's "less desirable" development.
"It could have been such a nice city," LoRusso said. "We didn't have to grow this way. Now we're stuck with it."
Garvan Bucaria, a retired Forest Service biologist who has called for more stringent environmental codes in Wasilla, does not blame Palin for the sprawl. She was not the first pro-development mayor, or the last, in what he calls a "rubber stamp" town.
His take on Palin: "There was no vision."
Environmentalists lobbed similar criticism when, as governor, Palin proposed giving every Alaskan $1,200 from state oil proceeds to help cover higher energy costs. Critics called it shortsighted, said it did nothing to promote conservation and said some money should be spent to reduce consumption.
At the Republican convention, supporters chanted "drill, baby, drill!" Palin has questioned whether humans have played a role in global warming and has said it is not important to know the cause. That latter point has puzzled even some of the people her administration has asked to advise her climate change committee.
"If it's all just a natural, cyclical thing, maybe we should just all go home and read a book," said Kathie Wasserman, an adviser to Palin's climate change committee.
Palin resists regulations that will hurt average citizens, said Larry Hartig, Palin's environmental commissioner. But she will make a tough call if it is the right one, he said. Faced with increasing pollution, Palin restricted the use of old two-stroke engines on the Kenai River. Fishermen strongly opposed the limitations but Hartig recalls the governor telling aides: "This is what we need to do, but people are not going to like it."
The independent Kenai Watershed Forum credits the decision with reducing oil pollution by 66 percent in one year.
"The constituency that she plays well to, Joe Six-Pack or whatever, this was a decision that negatively affected the average person," said Robert Ruffner, the watershed group's director.
Early in her term, Palin invited environmental groups to her office. But Troll, an adviser to the climate change committee, has been disappointed. Palin brought the pro-business mind-set with her from Wasilla to the governor's office, Troll said.
If Palin makes energy an issue in the White House, like Vice President Dick Cheney has, Troll expects that mind-set to continue.
"She errs on the side of development," Troll said. "Would she carry that forward to being vice president? Yes, more than likely. She is who she is."" |
http://apnews.fimc.net/showarticlewptf.asp?id=729010&url=www.wptf.com&site=wptfam&catg=headlines_politics&summary=1&images=1&show=15
It's no wonder she can see Russia from her house. No more of those pesky trees blocking her view. " "10/19/2008 8:36:38 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53063 Posts user info edit post |
man, if only the press spent so much time digging in to Obama's past. or Biden's for that matter 10/19/2008 8:40:21 PM |
alee All American 2178 Posts user info edit post |
^^ That was depressing.
[Edited on October 19, 2008 at 8:41 PM. Reason : ] 10/19/2008 8:41:13 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
She could have allowed businesses to develop without being so lax on pollution restrictions.
I guess she cares about helicopter moose hunters than fisherman though. 10/19/2008 8:42:17 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
haha, lets attack the press, that always works...lol
[Edited on October 19, 2008 at 8:43 PM. Reason : .] 10/19/2008 8:43:00 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53063 Posts user info edit post |
don't you have some beer cans to be smashing on your unintelligent forehead? 10/19/2008 8:45:22 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^^ Kinda of a week argument against Palin. Unless you are a tree-hugging hippy than the job opportunities created for you as a Wasilla citizen would be make you happy.
Quote : | "welp, ask the negroes about straight-party voting, cause they are about as guilty of it as anyone. Them and backwoods hicks" |
Hey i never said a party. Both sides are guilty with an inversely proportional relationship with intelligence. Although among the educated it seems more on the right-side tend to out of nothing more than stubbornness stick to party lines. This last statement though not based on any emperical evidence just my observations.
[Edited on October 19, 2008 at 8:45 PM. Reason : k]10/19/2008 8:45:35 PM |
alee All American 2178 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Unless you are a tree-hugging hippy" |
"I am the Lorax, I speak for the trees"10/19/2008 8:49:02 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Weak to you perhaps, but some of us are able to see beyond the end of our nose (or wallets) and actually give a damn about clean air and water through sustainability as opposed to rampant, unbridled pillaging in the name of short term gains.
^
[Edited on October 19, 2008 at 8:52 PM. Reason : .] 10/19/2008 8:51:47 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ it's weak because she's just a typical mayor. I doubt most mayors have any particular concern for the environment, especially when they're "growing the economy" and getting kickbacks from her contractor partners.
It does however further underscore what a terrible pick for VP Palin is.
[Edited on October 19, 2008 at 9:14 PM. Reason : ] 10/19/2008 9:13:45 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
were those pictures of the Obama concert or last years Nelly concert? 10/19/2008 9:18:25 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
I mean if I lived in Wasilla I'd probably vote for Palin; hell maybe even for Governor. Nonetheless I do not want her anywhere near the whitehouse. 10/19/2008 9:45:04 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Look how happy these coloreds are... if that won't get them to stop joining gangs I don't know what will
Obama just raised $150 million though, double his past monthly peak.
I wonder if his breakdown is still primarily individual donors, as it has been previously? http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-campaign_monoct20,0,2448256.story
[Edited on October 19, 2008 at 10:10 PM. Reason : ]
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synapse play so hard 60938 Posts user info edit post |
10/19/2008 10:17:00 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
This place is going to go nuts if McCain manages a win. 10/19/2008 10:38:58 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i hope people riot 10/19/2008 10:41:20 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53063 Posts user info edit post |
probably going to see that either way. I'd say that the nation breaks in two, at a minumum, before Obama is done. 10/19/2008 10:46:34 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
haha
this is an honest question, but are you coming up with these quips yourself, or are you reading them on some ultra-right-wing message board somewhere? 10/19/2008 10:48:28 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Eh, I see little reason to believe people care that much.
[Edited on October 19, 2008 at 10:48 PM. Reason : ^] 10/19/2008 10:48:35 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53063 Posts user info edit post |
haha, I don't read ultra-right-wing message boards. I make this bullshit up all on my own 10/19/2008 11:09:50 PM |
LunaK LOSER :( 23634 Posts user info edit post |
this was really disturbing:
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BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
A couple of thoughts:
During the last debate, there were things that Obama said that I was glad he said, but I wasn't all RAH RAH WOO HOO OBAMANOS! The only thing that stood out to me was his last line about how he would work tirelessly. It was a throw-away line, just filler...but I actually believe that man will work tirelessly to set our ship right. It was weird when he said it cause I'm usually like, "Blah blah. Whatever..." to both candidates, but to that, I was like, "Holy shit, I actually believe that!!!" It was a beautiful thing.
I was in the doctor's office on Friday. They had some old magazines laying around. While I was reading an article about Obama, I cried a little. I thought I was immune to that and always rolled my eyes at the inspiration bit. But they got me. For the first time in my life, I'm inspired. 10/19/2008 11:27:53 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
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drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
^he is a closet muslim...get it right...GOD... 10/20/2008 12:59:34 AM |
Ytsejam All American 2588 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "While I was reading an article about Obama, I cried a little" |
This is why women shouldn't vote.10/20/2008 1:11:00 AM |
wilso All American 14657 Posts user info edit post |
oh shut the fuck up 10/20/2008 1:19:52 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
^yo dont worry about it...repubs are all about turning the clock back on progression...oh well =/ 10/20/2008 1:25:15 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Is it just me, but has DnL's saliency been going up the past week or so?
[Edited on October 20, 2008 at 1:32 AM. Reason : ] 10/20/2008 1:31:09 AM |
wilso All American 14657 Posts user info edit post |
it's not just you 10/20/2008 2:01:34 AM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
You people are still talking about this election? Shit was over a few months ago.
I'm already looking forward to the midterms... 10/20/2008 10:22:44 AM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
wow, the ads get more and more desperate everyday;
10/20/2008 10:42:48 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
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Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/virginia/election_2008_virginia_presidential_election
Quote : | "Barack Obama has opened his biggest lead yet over John McCain in Virginia. The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in the state finds Obama now leading 54% to 44%." |
What does a 10% lead in Virginia 2 weeks before the election mean? Well, Virginia is on the east coast and polls there close at 7PM. If those numbers hold up, the election could very well be called before most of us get home from work.10/20/2008 12:27:15 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ That ad didn't impress me until I saw it was fucking Mohammed Atta on there.
Damn. 10/20/2008 12:30:51 PM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
Lol, that ad is just meat to people dumb enough to already believe it....it gins up the base but does nothing to help sway any voter with half a brain.
love the desperation and slime though. 10/20/2008 1:01:56 PM |