6/4/2015 11:34:13 AM

6/4/2015 11:35:38 AM

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"I want to thank Flyin Ryan for explaining to all of us how to be a fan of sports, and what to care about and not care about."

You can do whatever the hell you want, I just don't understand why anyone gives a rat's ass about banners. What a fucking stupid thing in the context of this entire investigation. It's like a governor neck-deep in corruption and you get uptight about his unpaid parking tickets.

[Edited on June 4, 2015 at 12:01 PM. Reason : /]

6/4/2015 12:00:35 PM

Doesn't sound good on the bBall front (for us)

6/4/2015 12:00:38 PM

^^I care about banners. As others have said, if they come down it's not only indicative of future penalties, but it's righting a wrong and shutting up a bunch of smug Carolina fans. I see no fault in wanting banners to come down, regardless of the number on the scoreboard in 2005, 2009, etc.

6/4/2015 12:05:47 PM

I care about banners because that's what the holes care about. There's only one place you can really hurt those smug pricks, and it starts with removing what they covet above all else.

6/4/2015 12:09:07 PM

^^ I'm hearing LOIC which would cover everyone. Who cares. BURN THE FUCKER DOWN

6/4/2015 12:09:17 PM

I heard a group of big donors have seen the NOA already and are planning to boycott da schoo after it's released

6/4/2015 12:11:10 PM

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"wufpakman21 wrote: Im hearing from a few sources : UNC charged with LOIC UNC charged as a repeat offender in some instances UNC failed to cooperate with many aspects of the investigation Evidence was lost/destroyed.. various people that claimed they would cooperate and interview lawyered up. (This ties into the Wainstein report. People that interview for KW, refused to talk to the NCAA). NCAA is charging UNC with a "wide net ". Charges and details aren't very specific. IE... you cheated... it was a massive fraud scheme... were not going to sit here and charge you with each offense... its the totality of the crimes. (20 years+..2,000 students.. multiple sports) UNC plans to lawyer up and fight... Bubba has already told the NCAA they aren't accepting the charges. UNC once again has no morals, no integrity... and will not accept their fate. They will drag this out even longer and try to lawyer their way out... or to a lesser penalty at the COI."

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"Above would be great news. LOIC is evident, as is failure to cooperate & repeat offender. Used to work for Govt & have done FOIA redactions for both Govt & Industry. FOIA will redact FERPA privacy (personnel student) info, and other non-confidential info, all else is releasable. After Cheats did their initial redaction, it is reviewed by the ADept & counsel & compliance to ensure redaction is thorough. SHOULD also be checked to ensure it is not over-redacted, good luck with that one tho.... Couple quick points: -Cheat received this about 2 weeks ago, the NOA will be dated about 2 weeks old. -Cheats could not negotiate or change NOA, once written, it is public info --their chance to lessen it was prior to release. -The listing of allegations in the NOA is NOT redactable, privacy info within it maybe, but the allegations are not, they will be listed. -Cheats may object to all allegations, but lawsuits at this time are irrelevant, they have 90 days to provide evidence that allegations are false or misguided. If can't prove otherwise, they will be punished for each one accordingly. -Much of 60 pages will be evidence to the allegations, most evidence is just that, it is not disputable, unless it is false or misguided. Enjoy & great job by PackPride!!"

6/4/2015 12:22:05 PM

http://3qh929iorux3fdpl532k03kg.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/NCAA-NOA.pdf

6/4/2015 12:26:31 PM

It's out!

http://carolinacommitment.unc.edu/updates/unc-chapel-hill-releases-ncaa-notice-of-allegations/

6/4/2015 12:26:44 PM

please

please let this be true

6/4/2015 12:27:17 PM

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN BASEL?

6/4/2015 12:30:08 PM

a lot of level 1 allegations. this is a lot to read through.

PP is saying LOIC

[Edited on June 4, 2015 at 12:31 PM. Reason : .]

6/4/2015 12:30:21 PM

crowder and nyangwhatever did not cooperate with the investigation

here's the money shot, in allegation 5, which levels LOIC

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"Specifically, individuals in the academic administration on campus, particularly in the college of arts and sciences, did not sufficiently monitor the AFRI/AFAM and ASPSA departments or provide appropriate supervision for these academic units and their staffs. The AFRI/AFAM department created anomalous courses that went unchecked for 18 years. This allowed individuals within ASPSA to use these courses through special arrangements to maintain the eligibility of academically at-risk student-athletes, particularly in the sports of football, men's basketball and women's basketball. Although the general student body also had access to the anomalous AFRI/AFAM courses, student-athletes received preferential access to these anomalous courses, enrolled in these anomalous courses at a disproportionate rate to that of the general student body and received other impermissible benefits not available to the general student body in connection with these courses"

[Edited on June 4, 2015 at 12:32 PM. Reason : .]

6/4/2015 12:32:02 PM

I see institutional control referenced in regards to allegations 1 & 2 on pg. 52... still reading...

6/4/2015 12:32:28 PM

Is 1 most or least severe?

6/4/2015 12:32:43 PM

^yes. almost all of them are level I too

^^was just about to post that.

the word "basketball" is only mentioned 4 times in the document.

[Edited on June 4, 2015 at 12:33 PM. Reason : .]

6/4/2015 12:32:54 PM

most

“severe breach of conduct”

[Edited on June 4, 2015 at 12:33 PM. Reason : .]

6/4/2015 12:33:03 PM

most

6/4/2015 12:33:08 PM

6/4/2015 12:33:18 PM

There is at least one mention of lack of institutional control.

But they are trying to pin this all on women's basketball as far as I can tell, If you do a find on "men's" you find almost nothing except "women's" basketball

6/4/2015 12:33:22 PM

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"nstitution: a. Aggravating factors. [NCAA Bylaw 19.9.3] (1) Multiple Level I violations. [Bylaw 19.9.3-(a)] x The notice of allegations includes multiple Level I violations involving unethical conduct, extra benefits and a lack of institutional control. (2) A history of Level I, Level II or major violations by the institution, sport program(s) or involved individual. [Bylaw 19.9.3-(b)] They include: x March 12, 2012 – Violations of NCAA legislation regarding academic fraud, impermissible benefits, impermissible participation, une thical conduct, failure to monitor, preferential treatment, failure to cooperate and failure to report outside income. x January 10, 1961 – Violations of NCAA legislation involving improper entertainment and lodging and improper recruiting entertainment. (3) Lack of institutional control. [Bylaw 19.9.3-(c) As described in Allegation No. 5, the institution demonstrated a lack of institutional control by providing impermissible academic extra benefits to student-athletes, exploiting the anomalous courses provided by the African and Afro-American Studies (AFRI/AFAM) department and failing to adequately monitor the activities of Jan Boxill (Boxill), then philosophy instructor, director of the Parr Center for Ethics, women's ba sketball athletics academic counselor in the Academic Support Program for Student- Athletes and chair of the faculty. (4) Persons of authority condoned, par ticipated in or negligently disregarded the violation or re lated wrongful conduct. [NCAA Bylaw 19.9.3-(h)] x Boxill abused her position as a faculty member by providing impermissible academic assistanc"

[Edited on June 4, 2015 at 12:35 PM. Reason : .]

6/4/2015 12:34:20 PM

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""This allowed individuals within ASPSA to use these courses through special arrangements to maintain the eligibility of academically at-risk student-athletes, particularly in the sports of football, men's basketball and women's basketball.""

6/4/2015 12:35:54 PM

https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/Penalty_Guideline_Matrix_013012_Link4.pdf

penalty guidelines

3 year post season ban possible

6/4/2015 12:36:27 PM

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"FI71: July 14, 2005 – Email from Boxill to Huffstetler. This includes, but is not limited to, Boxill providing the grades for men's basketball studentathletes enrolled in her philosophy course. (Item7_HuffstetlerFromBoxill_071405_NorthCarolina_00231)"

6/4/2015 12:37:12 PM

Fuck Carolina

6/4/2015 12:38:13 PM

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"LosPollosHermanos Starter 338 posts this site X Re: UNC Receives NOA from NCAA 12:38 PM And, all the sources on IC are wrong again...."

LMAO

6/4/2015 12:38:37 PM

also on the table for Level 1 - 25% to 50+% reduction in scholarships

[Edited on June 4, 2015 at 12:39 PM. Reason : .]

6/4/2015 12:39:07 PM

basketball = 86 mentions
soccer = 6
football = 33
baseball = 3

6/4/2015 12:39:42 PM

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"Dan Wolken ?@DanWolken 9s9 seconds ago Dan Wolken retweeted Seth Gonna wait for the NC State message boards to weigh in before I predict anything "

6/4/2015 12:39:46 PM

From Carol and Bubba:

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"Dear Carolina Community: We are writing to inform you that earlier today the University published the NCAA’s notice of allegations on our Carolina Commitment website, http://carolinacommitment.unc.edu. Following, for your information, is the complete posting: UNC-Chapel Hill releases NCAA notice of allegations The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill has released the notice of allegations from the NCAA. The University posted the 59-page notice and hundreds of pages of exhibits – called “factual information” (FI) by the NCAA – on the Carolina Commitment website after review by the Public Records Office to protect privacy rights mandated by federal and state laws. Carolina received the notice of allegations on May 20, 2015, and will respond within the NCAA’s 90-day deadline. In a statement, Chancellor Carol L. Folt and Director of Athletics Bubba Cunningham said: “We take the allegations the NCAA made about past conduct very seriously. This is the next step in a defined process, and we are a long way from reaching a conclusion. We will respond to the notice using facts and evidence to present a full picture of our case. Although we may identify some instances in the NCAA’s notice where we agree and others where we do not, we are committed to continue pursuing a fair and just outcome for Carolina. “We believe the University has done everything possible to address the academic irregularities that ended in 2011 and prevent them from recurring. We have implemented more than 70 reforms and initiatives to ensure and enhance academic integrity. We will continue to monitor the effectiveness of those measures and, wherever needed, put additional safeguards in place.” After the University submits its response to the NCAA about the notice, it also will be posted on the Carolina Commitment website. The University can only comment about NCAA process and policies; it cannot comment on the substance of the case until its completion. After the University responds to the notice of allegations, the NCAA’s enforcement staff has 60 days to send its own response to the one filed by the University to the Committee on Infractions. University representatives will appear in a hearing before the Committee on Infractions along with the NCAA enforcement staff that is not expected to occur until later this fall. The Committee on Infractions issues its final infractions report publicly, typically six to eight weeks after the hearing. The report details any bylaw violations, as well as any punitive measures imposed on the institution or individuals. (Staff and student-athlete names are redacted from the public report.) We encourage students, faculty and staff to also visit the Carolina Commitment website to track Carolina’s progress with the reforms and initiatives the campus has put in place to address these issues. We ask for your patience and understanding as this NCAA process continues. Sincerely, Carol L. Folt Chancellor Bubba Cunningham Director of Athletics "

6/4/2015 12:39:52 PM

No way this report doesn't even further undermine recruiting efforts now that the speculation is over, right?

6/4/2015 12:42:56 PM

WRAL:

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/ncaa-finds-lack-of-institutional-control-at-unc/14689222/

6/4/2015 12:43:32 PM

6/4/2015 12:44:05 PM

I love how they somehow managed to redact some of the dates for the pieces of evidence. Was Nixon editing this?

6/4/2015 12:44:23 PM

Burn down the school

6/4/2015 12:45:21 PM

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"No way this report doesn't even further undermine recruiting efforts now that the speculation is over, right?"

UNC is about to be a leper for recruits. I'm also expecting a mass exodus of current players.

6/4/2015 12:48:09 PM

Is it to soon to celebrate? This is a serious question, I'm breaking out the 30-year Ron Zacapa rum tonight if consensus is no.

6/4/2015 12:48:28 PM

^No reason to celebrate without knowing the penalties, kind of like celebrating a big lead against Duke early in the 2nd half

6/4/2015 12:49:22 PM

Every time a read a article about this

6/4/2015 12:49:43 PM

I'm waiting for Bradley Bethel's documentary before I make any final calls

6/4/2015 12:49:45 PM

Since current and prior men's coaching staff's are not mentioned specifically in the real allegations section I'm not ready to count this as a full win. That said, this will have to have some impact, realistically probably the most we could really expect.

6/4/2015 12:50:01 PM

http://youtu.be/SxWd4Rf4H6k


Plz embed


oops. this was supposed to be the "ohhh expletive deleted" part.

[Edited on June 4, 2015 at 12:59 PM. Reason : W/E]

6/4/2015 12:50:15 PM

6/4/2015 12:51:01 PM

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"Josh Goodson ?@joshwgoodson 6m6 minutes ago who told Boxill, Nyangoro, etc to do what they did. I mean just to wake up and say "hey I'm going to start being sketch" is -_____-"

6/4/2015 12:51:38 PM

1) Impermissible benefits by academic counselors re: AFAM and that 10 athletes exceeded indep study course limits

2) Jan Boxill provided impermissible academic assistance to women’s basketball players

3) Deb Crowder violated ethical conduct by not assisting NCAA investigation

4) Julius Nyang'oro violated ethical conduct by not assisting with NCAA investigation

5) Lack of institutional control for all of the above

6/4/2015 12:52:06 PM

^^ Exactly. And who advised Nyang'oro not to cooperate?

[Edited on June 4, 2015 at 12:53 PM. Reason : ...]

6/4/2015 12:53:18 PM

6/4/2015 12:55:25 PM

I just came

6/4/2015 12:55:56 PM