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"and she reminds me of the sloth from ice age"

Fuck you dtownral. I'm never going to be able to unsee this. And I've been enjoying her in The Tudors.

5/7/2014 9:07:45 PM

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"I think the chicks that Jon Snow & Rob Stark banged are/were the best looking ones in the show. Can't remember either of their names though "

Ygritte and....yeah she dead now.

[Edited on May 7, 2014 at 9:18 PM. Reason : ]

5/7/2014 9:15:05 PM

^ When did Ygritte die? We're talking about the red head wildling, rlght?

Edit: Nm, you mean the two women he's talking about are Ygritte and Rob's wife, who is dead now (was killed at the red wedding).

[Edited on May 7, 2014 at 9:40 PM. Reason : .]

5/7/2014 9:35:27 PM

Your edit is correct.

5/7/2014 10:13:21 PM

you people are all out of your damn minds. Brienne is by far the hottest

5/7/2014 11:01:06 PM

Not gonna lie - when Osha seduced Theon, I was all .

[Edited on May 8, 2014 at 12:48 AM. Reason : But seriously, the Myraham captain's daughter.]

5/8/2014 12:45:32 AM

Pointy elbows.

5/8/2014 10:28:44 AM

half the extras are more attractive

5/8/2014 1:04:08 PM

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/may/06/george-rr-martin-game-of-thrones-sexual-violence

On my phone, otherwise I'd paste the article but it's GRRM commenting on the rape scenes.

Have fun

5/8/2014 8:41:24 PM

<3 that little man

5/12/2014 7:45:24 AM

Based on the previews for the next episode, looks like we know who Cersei's side will use for their competitor in the Trial By Combat. Now to see who Tyrion selects, he has 2 obvious choices based on his past/allegiances but they've REALLY pushed a 3rd selection if Cersei does select who the previews allude to.

5/12/2014 8:25:58 AM

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"uhh.. ros, dani, cercei, osha, missandei, and sansa are all ahead of margaery, imo."

How could you forget Shae?!


Awesome scene at the end last night.

5/12/2014 8:28:14 AM

I hope he picks Jamie. He wanted to when he was in the Vale. And now if he did that would really get her panties in a bunch.

5/12/2014 8:31:47 AM

Can someone explain the rules of this trial by combat?

I assume Tyrion has to defend himself. Against who?

[Edited on May 12, 2014 at 8:38 AM. Reason : forget who's who.]

5/12/2014 8:35:18 AM

You and the accuser name champions. You'd have to be completely unobservant to not know who will be championing against Tyiron's choice.

[Edited on May 12, 2014 at 8:43 AM. Reason : .]

5/12/2014 8:42:23 AM

or you just didn't read the book and don't know

5/12/2014 8:49:28 AM

Or don't watch previews. I think I remember them mentioning him once this season (not including arya's list) or I'm getting confused with reading about him.

5/12/2014 8:51:17 AM

nm, pseudo-spoilers I guess and you people are insane.

[Edited on May 12, 2014 at 9:07 AM. Reason : .]

5/12/2014 9:07:06 AM

i think i might know what's going to go down. i don't remember if i'm finally randomly remembering something from the book though

5/12/2014 9:16:40 AM

my guess is that the lannisters will choose the mountain and oberyn will step up for tyrion since he wanted to fight him anyway. how else were they going to set up that fight?

5/12/2014 9:42:27 AM

I'm expecting Tyrion will name either Bron or Jamie. I don't think he would choose Oberyn to fight for him but stranger things have happened.

and wtf Shae, do you still not understand what Tyrion did was to save your life and protect you? how could you do that to "your lion"?

[Edited on May 12, 2014 at 9:57 AM. Reason : .]

5/12/2014 9:55:50 AM

no way they choose the mountain, no one likes him and we haven't seen him in too long

5/12/2014 9:55:54 AM

^^she's a whore so I bet it was easy

5/12/2014 10:20:21 AM

yeah i was thinking maybe mountain vs jaime fighting on tyrion's behalf, but i dunno. oberryn definitely wants to see the mountain dead, but yeah it'd be hard to see tyrion choosing him as his champion. i guess if there was no one else he'd go for it.

i don't really expect it to be bronn either, because that would just be retread.

5/12/2014 10:25:55 AM

^^^You must not have seen the previews for the next episode.

No reason to show him in the previews for the next episode if he ISN'T going to be their champion. And really Tyrion has 2 choices(Jamie or Bronn) to fight for him, but they have REALLY pushed Oberyn wanting revenge. So it seems fairly obvious that Oberyn is going to offer his services to fight for Tyrion in the Trial by Combat.

Show has been pretty heavy-handed in setting up Oberyn vs. The Mountain and I can't imagine Oberyn not begging Tyrion to let him fight on his behalf. Which is great because all season they've talked about how great of a fighter Oberyn is and I'm looking forward to seeing him actually fight someone.

5/12/2014 10:39:18 AM

its pretty obvious jamie will fight for Tyrion, they really built that up in the past couple episodes

5/12/2014 10:47:55 AM

^He might, and Jamie is a logical choice, but they've built up the Oberyn thing for the entire season so far, I'd be shocked if he doesn't at least offer up his services. Never read the books so not sure if the writing is as heavy-handed as the show is about certain plot points.

I mean why even introduce Oberyn this season, give us all of his history(esp. with The Mountain and the Lannisters), his history of being this great warrior, make him a judge, etc, if he isn't going to get to face The Mountain at some point? Maybe the trial will get The Mountain in the city and Oberyn will fight him after the Trial By Combat, but that would mean Jamie is dead(which would be a fun twist I didn't see coming). Either way, as long as I get to see Oberyn fight at some point this season I'll be content, haha.

I could also see Tywin forbidding Jamie to fight for him because of his membership in the King's Guard.

5/12/2014 11:28:37 AM

^ my thought is if Jamie fights for Tyrion, he would resign from the Kingsguard so that he could do it.

5/12/2014 11:32:22 AM

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"Can someone explain the rules of this trial by combat?"

This is where disputed parties fight to the death to resolve the dispute. However, if one party is unable (woman, dwarf, child, etc.) then they may select a champion. This is the same situation we had in the Vale where Robin and Lysa were ineligible and put that knight forward. Also, Tyrion was unable due to being a dwarf, so he called Jamie (who Lysa wouldn't allow because he wasn't present) then offered gold to anyone in the room who would take up for him, which Bronn accepted.

I kind of see this going differently. I think selecting Jamie makes perfect sense, but because Tywin won't allow him to die. This whole trial is a roux to force Jamie back to rule Casterly Rock and continue the Lannister name, as well as the added bonus of sending Tyrion off to the Wall at the same time.

I see Jamie being selected and something happening to either not have to fight, or Tywin just putting in somebody weak for Jamie to slay and Tyrion gets off free. Neither Cercei nor Tywin want to see anything happen to Jamie. However, this is GRRM we're talking about and more fucked up shit has happened so, I'm looking forward to whatever result. They have been building up the "poor Jamie he's not so bad afterall" thing lately, and it would be a good time for him to die - it would really solidify Tywin as the cruelest asshole in the world.

However, I hadn't considered the Oberyn vs. the Mountain thing - which would be great, but he's a judge so can he be selected?

5/12/2014 11:40:18 AM

Tywin should make Tyrion fight Shae to the death

5/12/2014 11:45:52 AM

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"However, I hadn't considered the Oberyn vs. the Mountain thing - which would be great, but he's a judge so can he be selected?"

with all the Oberyn talk, that's what i'm wondering too

5/12/2014 11:52:36 AM

Yeah if I hadn't seen The Mountain in the previews for the next episode, I would have expected Tywin to pick Jamie to be his champion just so Tyrion wouldn't be able to use him and so Tyrion wouldn't want to pick Bronn because he wouldn't want his brother to die.

Really surprised they showed The Mountain in the previews for the next episode, can't imagine they'd show him/bring him back if he wasn't indeed going to be the champion for Tywin/Cersei. I just can't imagine a scenario where Tywin allows Jamie to fight The Mountain, and I can't imagine a scenario where Oberyn doesn't jump at the chance to fight The Mountain. Perhaps Oberyn won't be allowed to since he's a judge, but they've built that fight up all season so really hoping we eventually get to see that fight.

5/12/2014 12:40:35 PM

why is anyone assuming that the mountain coming back has anything to do with tyrion? the hound is obsessed with getting revenge against the mountain, they keep talking about that, and we know that they just heard reports about the hound running wild.

the mountain is back because he is going to face the hound, it just wouldn't make sense to be anything else.

5/12/2014 1:18:49 PM

I keep forgetting that there are people in the world who haven't read the books.

5/12/2014 1:49:24 PM

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"I would have expected Tywin to pick Jamie to be his champion just so Tyrion wouldn't be able to use him and so Tyrion wouldn't want to pick Bronn because he wouldn't want his brother to die."

Just because he can select Jamie doesn't mean he has to accept, and with the conversation they had, Tywin would know he wouldn't accept. Again, he's the heir so Tywin wouldn't risk him.

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"the mountain is back because he is going to face the hound, it just wouldn't make sense to be anything else."

True, and they show the Hound and Arya in the preview as well so it could be part of that storyline.

edit: watching the preview again, the Mountain isn't shown in the castle, but rather killing civilians in what looks to be a poor area so I'm not thinking he'll be the champion. He'll probably run into the Hound, and that would be an epic battle.

[Edited on May 12, 2014 at 2:05 PM. Reason : preview]

5/12/2014 2:00:12 PM

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"the mountain is back because he is going to face the hound, it just wouldn't make sense to be anything else."

Perhaps this is the case, but the way the previews went:
Shows Jamie telling Tyrion he "threw his life away" and Tyrion saying "don't give up on me yet" and then immediately showing The Mountain killing some dude begging for mercy, just seemed like it was tied together. The preview then jumps to Daenerys and her story and then they show Arya and The Hound talking. Perhaps they're trying to throw the viewers off, but so far the editing team/director really haven't been known to do that.

If you've read the books and are just spoiling things for us, then thanks for that, but if that's just your theory then I'd love to hear what led you to that(curious to know what clues I've missed). Seems like they've REALLY pushed Oberyn's vendetta as a main point of emphasis for this season. Hoping you're wrong because I don't want The Hound dead(love the chemistry with Arya) and I would hope they wouldn't spend so much time on Oberyn's past with The Mountain and then never have them actually fight. Would be a complete waste of a build up.

5/12/2014 2:17:35 PM

The hound will probably kill the mountain, i doubt the hound dies.

[Edited on May 12, 2014 at 2:28 PM. Reason : i bet he uses fine sword skills, that would tie in everything]

5/12/2014 2:27:46 PM

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"I keep forgetting that there are people in the world who haven't read the books."

this thread is for people who haven't read the books and want to discuss the tv show. there is a different thread for book readers.

i'm amazed that this need to be explicitly stated on every page.

5/12/2014 3:01:26 PM

my phone autocorrects "got" to "GoT" because i text about it so much. lol

and i loved last night's episode. excellent final scene.

5/12/2014 4:06:12 PM

^^The in his post means he was being sarcastic.

5/12/2014 4:25:06 PM

Moving on from the trial by combat speculation...

anyone have any guesses as to who Dany sends Daario after first?

any chance of Theon becoming un-Reeked? they fucked that dude up bad, man.

I feel pretty bad for Sansa, no matter what the poor girl can't seem to catch a break. I can't wait to see how Arya and the Hound will tie into that story line once (if) they reach the Vale.

5/12/2014 4:44:40 PM

Also, wtf is up with Theon's sister abandoning him? I know that he's been psychologically traumatized and whatnot but I think she still had like three dudes on her side right? I'd think that four of them, in armor and with axes, shields, and swords shouldn't really have too much trouble with a dog or two. And Ramsay just let them go? He didn't even let the dogs out to chase them or anything?

5/12/2014 5:04:46 PM

That dog was mean as fuck, and he didn't want to come. Even if he went he would never be himself again.

5/12/2014 6:37:07 PM

I think Jaime will be chosen as Tyrion's champion.. Didn't he hire Bronn to help him fight with one-hand? I think all the training will pay off in the battle.

5/12/2014 7:07:51 PM

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"any chance of Theon becoming un-Reeked? they fucked that dude up bad, man. "

i fucking hope so. he did some bad shit but out of some fucked up multiple family identity stress. at worst he should have been captured by Robb and beheaded. i dont think GRRM is stringing his character on like this just for the torture porn, there has to be a chance of redemption there.

5/12/2014 7:42:00 PM

The actor playing him has been superb. That guy plays the reek side perfectly.

5/12/2014 8:21:11 PM

i fully expected to see his stump during that bath scene. they pussed out.

5/12/2014 8:34:49 PM

They already showed a penis in the pissing scene, might as well show a mutilated one.

5/12/2014 8:39:10 PM

Yeah I wonder if in the books the whole conversion of Theon to Reek took longer, because in the show it seemed like he was completely mentally broken in like 2 weeks, seemed a bit rushed. Made him seem like a really weak-minded character when before he didn't seem to lack in the self-confidence department.

5/13/2014 8:29:21 AM

Yes.

5/13/2014 9:04:30 AM