interesting...

4/17/2011 3:57:06 PM

what the fuck am i looking at? charlie bravo what?

4/17/2011 3:58:22 PM

I just have to say THANK GOD the campus was spared and that classes will not be cancelled for a day or two....

[Edited on April 17, 2011 at 4:03 PM. Reason : w]

4/17/2011 4:02:02 PM

there's gotta be some loose bricks laying around too

would have been like a bunch of cannonballs being shot around

4/17/2011 4:03:08 PM

I can't believe Shaw closed for the remainder of the semester. Between NCSU, Meridith, St. Mary's, St Augs, and Wake Tech, it seems like something could have been worked out.

4/17/2011 4:07:28 PM

my dad just got home and said, "i was going to do my segway tour downtown today but i think they had some damage down there yesterday"



does he not remember when i called him from the basement at work yesterday like, "WE ARE GONNA DIE"

i wasn't exaggerating. well maybe i was, because i am clearly alive, but he seems oblivious to the severity of the storms. even though even at our house in n. raleigh there is metal, singles, shutters and insulation littering the yard. nope...totally normal for that to just fall from the sky.

i was like, dad, portions of downtown still have no power. s saunders is flat. oakwood is wrecked. even neighborhoods around ncsu and CV have houses with branches and trees on them. people are dead. pretty sure your tour isn't happening today!

^ yea, but think about how little time they have left. if it wasn't the end of the semester, i'm sure they would have worked something out. but they have what a week? two weeks? if that before exams?? grad is may 6th or 7th so i'm assuming exams start pretty soon...it was probably just simpler to close. the semester is practically over anyway.

[Edited on April 17, 2011 at 4:10 PM. Reason : .]

4/17/2011 4:08:31 PM

^^exactly. there's plenty of help to be had

[Edited on April 17, 2011 at 4:08 PM. Reason : ^]

4/17/2011 4:08:45 PM

i think it had more to do with the fact that the area where many of the students live got fucked up pretty bad than damage to school facilities

[Edited on April 17, 2011 at 4:11 PM. Reason : but i understand how wdprice's hatred of black people may cloud his reasoning]

4/17/2011 4:11:01 PM

^^^ What happens to the students? Do they have to repeat the entire semester? If so, do they have to pay for that extra semester?

4/17/2011 4:12:45 PM

^^ i know seriously.

they'd have to rehouse several hundred displaced students. probably faculty. if it was like, feb or even march i'm sure they'd try to work something out. but when the semester is over and their students just went through a fucked experience...i don't think it was a CRAZY INSANE decision.

^ no. they are given grades based on the work they have completed thus far...is what the newspaper said anyways.

[Edited on April 17, 2011 at 4:13 PM. Reason : .]

4/17/2011 4:12:51 PM

Is that where the near riot occurred?

4/17/2011 4:14:35 PM

no, that was near that trailer park that got fucked

but again, all black people so i can understand your confusion

4/17/2011 4:15:32 PM

Oh, so most of the students at Shaw lived in the trailer park....understand then....

4/17/2011 4:16:39 PM

no, the black people in the trailer park lived in one part of town

the black people at shaw are in another part of town

don't worry about it though, its both the parts you avoid

4/17/2011 4:18:16 PM

Was the "riot" just looting, or were people pissed?

4/17/2011 4:18:56 PM

If I'd known it would turn out like this, I'd never had made that comment.

Has anyone been downtown today? How accessible is it? Is S. Saunders open?

(thinking about getting to work tomorrow)

4/17/2011 4:20:21 PM

combination of being pissed and looting

[Edited on April 17, 2011 at 4:21 PM. Reason : w]

4/17/2011 4:21:23 PM

^^ i'd probably find an alternate route. seems like the smart decision to me.

4/17/2011 4:21:39 PM

That trailer park is like 95% mexican.

4/17/2011 4:22:23 PM

ahhh, the last thing they would want to see is cops then

4/17/2011 4:24:07 PM

Quote :

"Was the "riot" just looting, or were people pissed? "

the police feed wasn't working, but i imagine a lot of people were pissed because the cops weren't letting them back into the area so that rescue services could do their thing.

4/17/2011 4:24:27 PM

^^^^ Yeah, I'll probably take Western to McDowell.

[Edited on April 17, 2011 at 4:25 PM. Reason : ^ ]

4/17/2011 4:24:28 PM

^^^ So it's not really a riot, but rather a mass movement of people as they GTFO of there.

4/17/2011 4:31:18 PM

Quote :

"but i understand how wdprice's hatred of black people may cloud his reasoning"

sometimes I think you're the racist POS, as you're the one always bring race into it.

the last I heard, there was some damage to school facilities and limited damage to their housing facilities (broken windows); thus, I figured the housing issues were minor and school building issues could be worked out. if the housing facilities are that bad off and will displace a large number of students, then yeh, maybe canceling is the best route.

4/17/2011 4:40:03 PM

when i read "buildings dismantled" i think more than broken windows, even though that is what the picture showed. even with mere broken windows in a dorm room, you can't put students back into that dorm.

plus, not everyone lives on campus. other fac/students/staff could be facing damage at their residences around the area. they said 150 students had been displaced.

4/17/2011 4:46:06 PM

lots of street closures downtown. Person, Blount, McDowell, and Wilmington were all closed this morning.

4/17/2011 4:47:42 PM

Quote :

" Has anyone been downtown today? How accessible is it? Is S. Saunders open?"

This morning cops had it completely blocked. Will be driving by again on my way back from Goldsboro and will report again. My plan for work tomorrow is leaving early and taking Hillsborough unless I see the road open this afternoon.

4/17/2011 4:52:58 PM

^ Thanks!

All I can find on raleigh.gov is some CAT detours. They're using Wilmington instead of S. Saunders and MLK instead of New Bern.

4/17/2011 5:00:27 PM

Lake Wheeler to McDowell was open as of this morning. That's how I got into downtown, but a lot of the lights are out for the southern portion of downtown.

4/17/2011 5:27:47 PM

I live in Holly Springs, tornado came right through our street.

I'll try to post some pictures later, we don't have power and probably won't for a while it is just a real mess. Amazed at the size of some of the trees that went over, fortunately no houses were really damaged badly(holes in roofs, shingles, gutters pulled, but no trees through any houses or roofs missing) but a lot of sheds turned, cars busted up, etc. It is weird to drive down the street because There are so many less trees blocking the sun(just feels way to open) and there is a wall of trees/garbage lining the road to be picked up about 6 feet tall the whole way.

Nobody hurt, and I wasn't actually home when it came through. Plus the road getting to my house is closed off by cones so that has been a pain. Just crazy stuff if it was 50-60 feet more toward our houses could have been bad but as it was no damage to my place.

4/17/2011 5:30:07 PM

South Saunders still pwnt. Bunch of crap in the roadway, cops have it completely blocked, there looks to be some cranes parked in the street. Looks like they won't have it reopened any time soon. Commuting to work should be fun this week

4/17/2011 5:35:01 PM

Quote :

"what the fuck am i looking at? charlie bravo what?"

Sorry. Sometimes I forget that not everyone is up to speed on what the channels mean.
Wake County is part of the statewide VIPER Trunked Radio System. There are a set of channels
(or talkgroups as they are known on a trunked radio system) set aside for widespread mutual aid
& interoperability use. These are the statewide event talkgroups.
They get the most use during the State Fair Each year.
The Sets of Talkgroups are setup with the naming convention of "Alpha" "Bravo" "Charlie" "Delta" etc.
Each set has 4 talkgroups: Alpha 1-Alpha 4, Bravo 1-Bravo 4, Charlie 1 -Charlie 4, Delta 1-Delta 4.
Each and EVERY public safety radio has the talkgroups above programmed in. It is a requirement
before a radio is allowed on the system.
These talkgroups are in heavy use across the state as part of the cleanup in the aftermath of yesterdays events and can be monitored here in Wake County.
We are seeing unprecedented system use. It is awesome seeing many different departments and agencies that otherwise would never communicate between each other using VIPER to work together to help everyone affected.
Hope this helps those not used to VIPER terminology

4/17/2011 5:44:26 PM

Yeah those are never used. I bet it took everyone a while to find them, some people have trouble finding all the tac channels, much less the mutual aids.

4/17/2011 6:12:54 PM

something was down for awhile, they had to call Motorola

4/17/2011 6:16:51 PM

So there was actually some damage there?

4/17/2011 6:35:31 PM

no, there was no damage

?

4/17/2011 7:09:01 PM

I am just used to the TWW "Omg, I felt wind on Kaplan" storm updates

4/17/2011 7:11:53 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukuERsvfDMU

4/17/2011 7:14:03 PM

I live in villages of tryon right off lake wheeler. the tornado that messed up downtown touched down initially right behind my house. you can follow it and see where it landed and jumped over and kept going past oleander onto s. saunders.

I got spared, just some tree tops in my backyard but there are people in my community that have gigantic trees on their house, holes in the roof and cars that are demolished. we got really lucky but people about 5 houses down did not.

looks like a really narrow tornado though, guessing is a F1 from what I can tell.

sucks though but fortunate it didnt do anything to my place or me.

4/17/2011 7:15:04 PM

http://www.wral.com/weather/video/9456372/#/vid9456372

4/17/2011 7:16:02 PM

2 big ass oak trees got uprooted, one across the street from my house (though since it fell into the street, its upper branches got tangled in one of my trees) and one about the same distance behind my house

my house is fine though, no damage that i can tell, very lucky

haven't had power since about 3:50PM Saturday and probably won't until nearly Wednesday

4/17/2011 7:29:11 PM

^^^ I don't think an F1 causes that much damage...

4/17/2011 7:53:31 PM

its an f2 based on my googling

Quote :

"F2 113–157 181–253 19.4% 110–250 Considerable damage. Roofs torn off frame houses; mobile homes demolished; boxcars overturned; large trees snapped or uprooted; highrise windows broken and blown in; light-object missiles generated."

4/17/2011 8:16:41 PM

I'm about to link some photos from Facebook, where we hosted the shots we got on our downtown survey after the storm. The photos weren't very good, not detailed or focused because we're in a car and it's pouring rain (and it's an Android phone). But it still gives a good idea of how thing were. Oakwood was a wreck. Despite how big that Oakwood neighborhood is, there were more blocked roads from power lines and trees than open ones. Oakwood had the pictures that we ended up not including (or didn't even take). Two houses had just collapsed, and the owner was outside of one--and it just seemed really disrespectful to whip out the camera.

Wish we'd done a more thorough survey, but we didn't want to get out of the car. There were a couple of cars that got missed by trees by inches. In particular there was a VW that was spared because the two main boughs of the trees had parted around the car exactly.

And yes, I'm part of the problem not the solution--wasn't trying to get in the way of emergency aid (didn't go to Saunders). My friend was driving and taking pictures, and I was calling the weather station to spot.

Moore Square (including dented acorn). You can't see, but some grandstand they set up collapsed to the left.











Shaw dorms here, you can see windows knocked out, but supposedly there was more damage:















BTW, does anyone know the name of the church in this next photo?



There was a cracked out guy behind this tree "directing traffic" with two tree branches.





COOKOUT WAS OKAY!

Bojangles had some roof and sign damage, but nothing as bad as the immediate areas around it.



I don't remember which road this is, but the street the cops are blocking has like five trees down in the road, and traffic from the other direction was heavy, so they were trying to keep people from heading straight into it.









This is the blocked road the cops didn't want anyone to go down. Behind us it was completely blocked by a wall of trees.

















This is after the Farmer's Market but before South Saunders. You can see the building in the background that was spewing water out of it. Entrance was blocked by police.





The next two photos show spots where the tornado crossed the beltline. The area with the flattened side was the South end, and the areas with the car is the North end. The cars are parked on the side of the road to look at damage, but there was also a car accident. There was a crumpled car in the ditch (right in the path of the tornado) and a hummer on the side that appeared to have hit it.













"Raleigh, City of Considerably Less Oaks"

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4/17/2011 8:25:06 PM

Thanks for the pics, Netstorm.

That's wild

I hope the city recovers speedily.

4/17/2011 8:30:28 PM

next weekend i'll be coming into Raleigh up US1 through sanford... i expect I'll be seeing piles of debris and wrecked buildings and such. i'll have pictures of anything worth seeing

4/17/2011 8:37:31 PM

Quote :

"A tornado-spewing storm system that killed at least 45 people across half the country unleashed its worst fury on North Carolina, where homes broke apart, trees snapped and livestock were swept into the air."

Oh SHIT. Straight out of Twister!

4/17/2011 8:40:09 PM

Oh George, not the live stock!

4/17/2011 9:01:24 PM

Just released...

the sanford-raleigh tornado was EF3 on the scale... 63 mile path length, maximum width at one point of 3 miles wide!!!! estimated winds of 160mph

bertie county tornado - EF3 - 165mph winds, path length 18.8 miles
max width 3/4 mile wide

fayetteville-smithfield tornado - EF3, 140mph winds, path length of 65 miles, max width of 1 mile

wilson-lucama tornado - EF2 tornado, 120mph winds, path length of 5 miles, max width 100 yards

4/17/2011 10:27:13 PM

that's crazy.

4/17/2011 10:30:07 PM