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7/19/2013 2:39:43 PM

A nigger died.

L i t e r a l l y who gives a fuck?

80 years ago we all would've sat around and watched his body bloat.

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[Edited on July 19, 2013 at 2:54 PM. Reason : and by we I mean all you white people]

7/19/2013 2:50:40 PM

Oh look Obama is involved again.

7/19/2013 3:52:35 PM

I'll just leave these right here for discussion sake...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=shODnGQJ6FU#at=101

And

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF-Ax5E8EJc

7/19/2013 3:58:52 PM

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"That is stupid. Consider this scenario: Asshole picks bar fight, other guy gets upper hand, asshole shoots other guy, self defense? "

Consider this scenario: Zimmerman shoves Trayvon. Trayvon downs Zimmerman and proceeds to pummel Zimmerman's head into the concrete a life-threatening amount.

[/devil'sadvocating,idon'tknowwhathappened]

7/19/2013 5:00:32 PM

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"a life-threatening amount"

Lol. Right.

7/20/2013 12:51:04 AM

ok

it's still quite possible that a guy with no wounds except for bruised knuckles [and a gunshot obv] escalated the conflict.

there's a difference between fighting back in a bar fight and punching someone's head against cement repeatedly when they're allegedly yelling 'help'.

and people dying from seemingly minor head wounds is a thing.

it's entirely plausible that zimmerman actually feared for his life.

7/20/2013 1:03:03 AM

"Punching someone's head repeatedly against concrete."

Have you ever hit your head against concrete? Like.. really hard? I have, and I got a fucking goose egg and a concussion and had to go to the ER. And that was just from slamming it ONE time.

Zimmerman had a superficial scrape on the back of his head, no concussion, and didn't go to see a doctor.

You're telling me he was "repeatedly slammed against concrete?" Bullshit.

7/20/2013 1:04:30 AM

i'm not telling you anything i'm speaking in implied hypotheticals since literally one person knows what happened, calm down.

i'm just saying it seems extremely possible that trayvon escalated the level of violence.

like i've said before, it's also possible that trayvon was threatened and feared for his life. but if that can be used as an argument then zimmerman's fear shouldn't be discounted even if a fear of death was maybe unfounded in the heat of the moment.



[Edited on July 20, 2013 at 1:15 AM. Reason : .]

7/20/2013 1:10:35 AM

this is what I imagine with head smashed against concrete

7/20/2013 1:11:03 AM

Can you quantify 'extremely possible'?

7/20/2013 1:11:32 AM

^yeah, 6 on a scale of 0 to nitpick

7/20/2013 1:15:23 AM

I read it as 'this is what happened', to the exclusion of other scenarios.

Is that true?

7/20/2013 1:17:38 AM

i still dont know why this case got so much national attention when young black teenagers trayvon's age or younger unfortunately get killed every day in this country, without the entire nation rallying behind their death

7/20/2013 1:18:32 AM

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"I read it as 'this is what happened', to the exclusion of other scenarios. Is that true? "

nah

i just meant definitely possible and added extremely for unnecessary emphasis.

i think what happened, to the exclusion of other scenarios, is that george zimmerman is an idiot who should not own a gun and who should not be a neighborhood watch leader.

7/20/2013 1:42:20 AM

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""There are very few African-Americans who have not had the experience of getting on an elevator and a woman clutching her purse nervously and holding her breath until she had the chance to get off. That happens often," he said."

Obama is speaking the truth. Why do white women do that racist shit.

7/20/2013 7:16:16 AM

Wait, now we're disputing that Zimmerman was getting his head smashed against the concrete, and that it was no big deal?

You have got to be fucking high.

7/20/2013 9:29:18 AM

^^ okay that shit happens all the time 2 me. I can understand when I dress like a punx wastoid, but not when I'm dressed like a nice frat boy.

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7/20/2013 9:43:32 AM

Frat boyz like to rape tho

7/20/2013 10:05:53 AM

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yjV9dzE_J_U&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DyjV9dzE_J_U

7/20/2013 10:11:26 AM

I was once walking behind a woman in a dark parking lot and she kept looking back at me nervously.

Finally I told her "I'm not gonna rape you". She did not seem relieved.

Profiling.

7/20/2013 10:46:20 AM

ACCORDING TO THE SKREET PEOPLE LAW

7/20/2013 11:26:17 AM

If there is a lone male in a dark parking lit walking behind me I am going to be suspicious no matter what color you are. Call me sexist.

7/20/2013 11:40:49 AM

^ Surely this is not as bad as two males, everything else being the same.

7/20/2013 11:46:51 AM

More like DON'T BE A LONE MALE IN A DARK PARKING LIT

7/20/2013 11:49:31 AM

Nah, danger increases exponentially with number of males.

Jk. it depends on how they're acting. A lone male is often quiet so it's hard to decide his mood, unless he's on the phone then the threat is minimized. If two males are laughing and having a jovial time and are dressed decently I have no problem. If two males are dressed as things and cussing shit and obviously trying to start troubles I get concerned. Or if they're quiet where I can't read what they're thinking. It all depends.

Women don't scare me though.

7/20/2013 11:54:10 AM

What if they're hot as fuck?

7/20/2013 11:55:28 AM

Then I'm cool. I know they wouldn't be interested in doing rapey things with me.

7/20/2013 11:58:14 AM

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"I was once walking behind a woman in a dark parking lot and she kept looking back at me nervously. Finally I told her "I'm not gonna rape you". She did not seem relieved. Profiling. "

This happened to me, except I didn't say anything and would quietly walk faster when she couldn't see me, then she started running. I was pretty amused.

I also completely freaked out a close female friend when I saw her in a grocery store, and quietly walked directly behind her. She too started running until I called her name out, turns out a bum on the bus had really creeped her out just before then.

7/20/2013 12:24:45 PM

Maybe I missed this. But can someone show me a map of where the store is, trayvons house and the path he took to get track home? Maybe I sound like a broken record but I haven seen one and google didn't help

7/22/2013 9:54:05 AM

7/22/2013 11:54:24 AM

That's perfect. Also,EMCE what's with the tread title? I don't see what you're getting at.

7/22/2013 12:01:07 PM

http://www.dlas.org/questions-zimmerman-verdict/

7/22/2013 12:11:20 PM

also, has anyone ITT discussed the skittles/tea/cough syrup thing, and the autopsy?

7/22/2013 12:11:54 PM

That's a nice find slappy

7/22/2013 12:21:18 PM

yep

7/22/2013 12:42:24 PM

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"also, has anyone ITT discussed the skittles/tea/cough syrup thing, and the autopsy?"

I have heard this and I find it questionable.

Purple drank is a widespread thing. The skittles and tea is implicated with purple drank in a connection that seems like a good stretch. The flexibility of the combination means that just about half the junk food in the gas station could be implicated. If he was walking home with cough syrup it would be different.

7/22/2013 12:56:47 PM

http://youngcons.com/bill-whittle-the-best-take-you-will-hear-on-george-zimmerman-and-trayvon-martin/

he was specifically talking about the "lean" with his facebook friend, and autopsy showed damage to his liver in a way that *could* have been caused by excessive consumption of that stuff

*note*: I do NOT patronize that website, nor am I a conservative. friend posted today and I thought it was very relevant to the discussion.

7/22/2013 1:11:54 PM

So Zimmerman saved some people from a wrecked, overturned SUV last week?

I bet they were white. What a racist.

7/22/2013 2:39:58 PM

Good things happen when that man gets out of his truck.

7/22/2013 4:58:11 PM

7/22/2013 5:31:52 PM

If Trayvon were a truck, he'd still be alive by now

7/22/2013 7:21:02 PM

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"Among African Americans, 86 percent say they disapprove of the verdict — with almost all of them saying they strongly disapprove — and 87 percent saying the shooting was unjustified. In contrast, 51 percent of whites say they approve of the verdict while just 31 percent disapprove. There is also a partisan overlay to the reaction among whites: 70 percent of white Republicans but only 30 percent of white Democrats approve of the verdict. Among all whites, one-third say the shooting was unjustified, one-third say it was justified and the other third say they didn’t know enough to have an opinion."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/race-shapes-zimmerman-verdict-reaction/2013/07/22/3569662c-f2fc-11e2-8505-bf6f231e77b4_story.html

7/22/2013 11:40:39 PM

I'd be curious for polls of people who watched >X amount of trial vs those who just watched media coverage vs. those who watched neither

7/22/2013 11:48:26 PM

that survey was the most biased piece of shit survey ever

many of the questions were actually two questions to which a reasonable person might answer yes to one and no to the other - but only one option was given to skew the results in the direction desired by the survey's author

fuck that survey and anyone that posts a link to it

7/22/2013 11:59:13 PM

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"Maybe I missed this. But can someone show me a map of where the store is, trayvons house and the path he took to get track home? Maybe I sound like a broken record but I haven seen one and google didn't help"

Oh look. A garage redneck infers Trayvon was up to no good on his walk home. Big surprise there. Look dude, if his walk was meandering all throughout the neighborhood you'd best believe that stupid map would be posted all over our Facebook Newsfeeds etc by people like you. There's a reason you can't find it. It's because it doesn't exist. If it did, you would already know about it and would have posted it repeatedly over the last few months as proof that that kid deserved to be shot.

7/23/2013 12:36:22 AM

It was probably hard for investigators to pin down his exact path SINCE HE WAS FUCKING DEAD when they got to him.

7/23/2013 10:02:08 AM

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" Look dude, if his walk was meandering all throughout the neighborhood you'd best believe that stupid map would be posted all over our Facebook Newsfeeds etc by people like you. There's a reason you can't find it."

That makes no sense. Could you at least characterize the nutjob's argument correctly first?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin

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" 6:24:18 PM — As shown by a store CCTV, Martin purchases a bag of Skittles and an AriZona Watermelon Fruit Juice Cocktail (often described in media and at protests as AriZona iced tea.)[7][8][9][10][11] 6:54 – 7:12 — Martin has an 18-minute cell phone call with a girl reported to be his girlfriend. The call gets disconnected.[10][12] 7:09:34 – 7:13:41 — George Zimmerman calls the Sanford Police Department (SPD) from his truck; total time of the call is 4 minutes 7 seconds.[13]"

The 7-eleven is 0.8 miles from the entrance to the community where Zimmerman spotted Trayvon. That makes Trayvon's average speed just about 1 mile per hour by my calculations.

This detail really was posted all over by the nutjobs. It's not really a "map" argument. It's more of a map+timestamps argument. And it does correctly argue that Trayvon had a slow average speed.

7/23/2013 10:27:40 AM

If you walk too slow, you're probably up to trouble.

If you walk to quickly, you're probably trying to get away from some trouble you caused.


One has to wonder, what is an appropriate speed of travel for soemone to walk that is universally accepted by everyone as 'non suspicious'?

7/23/2013 10:39:52 AM

If he hadn't attacked zimmerman he wouldn't have gotten shot. End of story.

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7/23/2013 10:54:43 AM