Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
Holy ouch, guys.
Big Ten Battleground Polls
Illinois Obama 61 McCain 32 Indiana Obama 51 McCain 41 Iowa Obama 52 McCain 39 Michigan Obama 58 McCain 36 Minnesota Obama 57 McCain 38 Ohio Obama 53 McCain 41 Pennsylvania Obama 52 McCain 41 Wisconsin Obama 53 McCain 40 10/23/2008 8:53:44 AM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
10/23/2008 8:57:37 AM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
Oops I left these off today. The results in Ohio are surprising in particular.
Quinnipiac ------------- Florida Obama 49 McCain 44
Ohio Obama 52 McCain 38
Pennsylvania Obama 53 McCain 40 10/23/2008 9:00:54 AM |
supercalo All American 2042 Posts user info edit post |
I more surprised that mccain has 40% in Pennsylvania, I thought that state would be a total goner 10/23/2008 9:40:51 AM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
Why? He's pulling out all the stops there...it's like his Battle of the Bulge...the fact that he is ONLY 40 and Obama averages 12 is pretty remarkable for Obama. He's kicking ass 10/23/2008 9:46:42 AM |
supercalo All American 2042 Posts user info edit post |
obama's raking in the cash too. just think about all the corporations that are throwing it at him. He raised 150 mill or so recently IN A MONTH. the media is helping too. But i'm still voting for mccain 10/23/2008 9:51:59 AM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah ...... a 12 point lead with under 2 weeks left is more or less insurmountable.
^ The average donation amount to Obama's campaign is right around $80.
[Edited on October 23, 2008 at 9:54 AM. Reason : :] 10/23/2008 9:52:26 AM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
You guys just wait. When little Zamboni Palin pops out next week (Palin's been secretly preggers before, it could happen again!!) America will fall in love with that law-breakin' beauty queen once again and it'll be curtains for Barack Obama. 10/23/2008 9:55:41 AM |
DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "IF YOU KNOW HOW TO DO SPIRITUAL WARFARE, PLEASE PRAY TODAY AND CONTINUALLY THAT ALL SUCH CURSES BE BROKEN AND SATAN'S PLAN FOR AMERICA BE DEFEATED, IN JESUS' NAME.? PRAY AND COVER MCCAIN AND PALIN WITH THE BLOOD OF CHRIST.? IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DO SPIRITUAL WARFARE, IT IS TIME YOU LEARN!!!" |
Quote : | "Two days ago, I listened to a 9-6-08 message by Bree Keyton, a young woman evangelist who had just traveled to Kenya and visited Obama's home village and what she found out about his relations with his tribal people was chilling. And his "cousin" Odinga was dreadful. She said the witches, warlocks and those involved in satanism and the occult get up daily at 3 a.m. to release curses against McCain and Palin so B. Hussein Obama is elected." |
http://www.injesus.com/index.php?module=message&task=view&MID=CB007FA2&GroupID=2A004N9G&label=&paging=all I suggest all McCain supporters don't vote but instead pray. God will take care of him then. Have faith.10/23/2008 10:13:23 AM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
New GOP Mailer
http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1008/RNC_raises_specter_of_911_attacks.html?showall
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/21/mccain-absolutely-proud-o_n_136524.html 10/23/2008 10:32:20 AM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^ The average donation amount to Obama's campaign is right around $80." |
Careful, you are going to get the rebuttal that only 25% of his contributions are under the amount of $200. They will use that to claim he is controlled by the special interests and decry him as some sort of hypocrite and liar. I went ahead and saved them the trouble thus stealing their thunder. 10/23/2008 10:33:20 AM |
DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The occultists are "weaving lazy 8's around McCain's mind to make him look confused and like an idiot". Bree K. said we need to break these curses off of him that are being sent from Kenya." |
10/23/2008 10:38:01 AM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
10/23/2008 10:44:21 AM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
I've been wondering about their positions on zinc mining
Quote : | " Candidates Annoyed To Have To Take Stance On Zinc Mining Candidates Annoyed To Have To Take Stance On Zinc Mining
WINONA, MO—After learning about the importance of zinc mining to residents in the crucial swing state of Missouri, presidential candidates John McCain and Barack Obama both expressed their irritation Monday over being forced to adopt a position on the issue in order to please voters. "I'll tell you what I think about zinc mining—I don't," an exasperated Obama told reporters, adding that he would reluctantly research the subject after finishing the "million other things" he had to do. "What's McCain's stance on it? I guess I'll be for it, unless he's for it, in which case I'll be against it. Either way I don't care." McCain had an identical reaction when informed that he would have to take a stance on health care, the economy, and education. " |
http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/candidates_annoyed_to_have10/23/2008 11:09:14 AM |
Charybdisjim All American 5486 Posts user info edit post |
Hah, the honesty of those responses shows just how sick of the election they're both getting. I don't imagine they get a shit ton of sleep. 10/23/2008 11:13:44 AM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
The FULL Joe the plumber answer:
Judge for yourself 10/23/2008 11:15:23 AM |
Charybdisjim All American 5486 Posts user info edit post |
Wow, he talked to that guy for a long time and actually answered his questions in detail. I wish they both did that at the fucking debates. 10/23/2008 11:21:38 AM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
They don't give you 5 minutes to answer 1 question in the debates
[Edited on October 23, 2008 at 11:23 AM. Reason : ] 10/23/2008 11:22:52 AM |
Charybdisjim All American 5486 Posts user info edit post |
He answered two. The followup on flat tax was almost 2 minutes, and there was a back and forth. He could have given his answer to the first question Joe asked in about 2.5 minutes.
What I find impressive though is the length and substance of conversation he had with someone who asked a fairly good (though slightly disingenous) question. In my experience, politicians tend to avoid "good" questions because they get at real issues people will have with their platform.
I'd love to find some video of a back and forth with a random crowd member that McCain's had. I'm sure they're out there. I think that kind of unedited video would tell you more about a candidate than most of what you get on TV. 10/23/2008 11:28:22 AM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
Thanks for the video terp.
Obama is a really likeable guy, its just his politics are shit. imo
Oh, and it seems he doesnt know the difference between a flat tax and the fairtax. LOL 10/23/2008 11:45:31 AM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "SEC. 313. USE OF CONTRIBUTED AMOUNTS FOR CERTAIN PURPOSES. (b) PROHIBITED USE-
(1) IN GENERAL- A contribution or donation described in subsection (a) shall not be converted by any person to personal use.
(2) CONVERSION- For the purposes of paragraph (1), a contribution or donation shall be considered to be converted to personal use if the contribution or amount is used to fulfill any commitment, obligation, or expense of a person that would exist irrespective of the candidate's election campaign or individual's duties as a holder of Federal office, including--
(A) a home mortgage, rent, or utility payment; (B) a clothing purchase; (C) a noncampaign-related automobile expense; (D) a country club membership; (E) a vacation or other noncampaign-related trip;" |
More like McCain-FAILgold, amirite?!?
btw, Barry Goldwater's granddaughter is endorsing Barack Obama
Quote : | "My grandfather (Paka) would never suggest denying a woman's right to choose. My grandmother co-founded Planned Parenthood in Arizona in the 1930's, a cause my grandfather supported. I'm not sure about how he would feel about marriage rights based on same-sex orientation. I think he would feel that love and respect for ones privacy is what matters most and not the intolerance and poor judgment displayed by McCain over the years. Paka respected our civil liberties and passed on the message that that we should conduct our lives standing up for the basic freedoms we hold so dear.
For a while, there were several candidates who aligned themselves with the Goldwater version of Conservative thought. My grandfather had undying respect for the U.S. Constitution, and an understanding of its true meanings.
There always have been a glimmer of hope that someday, someone would "race through the gate" full steam in Goldwater style. Unfortunately, this hasn't happened, and the Republican brand has been tarnished in a shameless effort to gain votes and appeal to the lowest emotion, fear. Nothing about McCain, except for maybe a uniform, compares to the same ideology of what Goldwater stood for as a politician. The McCain/Palin plan is to appear diverse and inclusive, using women and minorities to push an agenda that makes us all financially vulnerable, fearful, and less safe." |
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cc-goldwater/why-mccain-has-lost-our-v_b_137150.html OMGHUFFPO IT'S ALL LIESSSS]10/23/2008 11:52:32 AM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
New numbers today from MT poll...
From Montana State University-Billings survey: Obama 44, McCain 40 10/23/2008 3:21:09 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
THE GAME JUST CHANGED
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/17789356/detail.html
[Edited on October 23, 2008 at 4:18 PM. Reason : +]
10/23/2008 4:15:17 PM |
Vix All American 8522 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If obama institutes socialism in america...marijuana will more than likely be decriminalized with a democratic supermajority so we will all, at least, not care about it. Happy bong hits." |
LOL10/23/2008 4:30:04 PM |
Panthro All American 7333 Posts user info edit post |
Tell me again how this is a game changer?
An idiot attacked a woman and somehow, someway, they found out he was mad about the McCain sticker.
huh?10/23/2008 4:32:54 PM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
As I posted in chit chat..
1. I like how that somehow this story got HUGE red font for an hour on Drudge Report like it was some breaking thing.
2. I like how the report somehow trying to 'politicize' this....like the guy wrote B on her face as in 'B'arack Obama.
3. Watch the McCain campaign take advantage and gin up fear. Watch. 10/23/2008 4:44:20 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
The sad thing is marko, if the races were changed it would be a HATE crime.
Too bad he wasnt shot. 10/23/2008 4:44:33 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
Jesus Christ
How many times is this going to happen in the next 2 weeks?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/23/gop-group-head-calls-obam_n_137282.html
Republicans have the types of ignorant factions that make me want to puke 10/23/2008 5:06:42 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
how come Obama doesn't want his college transcripts or harvard law transcripts or bar application or dissertation or any of that stuff disclosed to the public? what does he have to hide? 10/23/2008 5:27:20 PM |
YOMAMA Suspended 6218 Posts user info edit post |
He majored in terrorism - seriously - what are you implying? 10/23/2008 5:30:29 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
i asked a straightforward question
Bush, Kerry and Gore all made their college transcripts and everything public
why not Obama? 10/23/2008 5:33:06 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The sad thing is marko, if the races were changed it would be a HATE crime.
Too bad he wasnt shot." |
I don't think they guy was caught, but this could still easily be prosecuted as a hate crime. Why do you think it couldn't/wouldn't be?10/23/2008 5:34:16 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
hey idiot
you don't write dissertations to get a masters or a J.D. - you write them to get a phd - and they're almost always published
He did write 2 fucking books though10/23/2008 5:35:20 PM |
YOMAMA Suspended 6218 Posts user info edit post |
Come on - just be honest. There is only one reason to bring that up. 10/23/2008 5:35:55 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
ok terpball, how about his transcripts? how about his bar application? how convenient that you didn't even address those
^what reason is that? enlighten me. i'm asking why a presidential candidate is withholding his college transcripts, you aren't interested in seeing them? what kind of wild twisted conspiracy plot do you have in your head?
[Edited on October 23, 2008 at 5:39 PM. Reason : .] 10/23/2008 5:37:36 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
10/23/2008 5:38:12 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I'm interested in seeing them, but merely out of curiosity. I don't see why you are harping on it so much though, for someone who doesn't even like Obama, it comes off as a bit odd. 10/23/2008 5:38:57 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
who's harping on it? i asked a fucking question and everyone is like WE KNOW WHY YOU'RE ASKING THAT
you guys are a joke as usual 10/23/2008 5:39:33 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Holy ouch, guys.
Big Ten Battleground Polls
Illinois Obama 61 McCain 32 Indiana Obama 51 McCain 41 Iowa Obama 52 McCain 39 Michigan Obama 58 McCain 36 Minnesota Obama 57 McCain 38 Ohio Obama 53 McCain 41 Pennsylvania Obama 52 McCain 41 Wisconsin Obama 53 McCain 40" |
illinois is a battleground? i think not10/23/2008 5:40:14 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "how convenient that you didn't even address those " |
Very fucking convenient - I know he would have transcripts, bar app... and whatever else. I never looked them up, I don't give a fuck - he was a practicing lawyer meaning he passed the bar and got his J.D. I addressed the 1 part of your post that didn't make sense to point out that you're a fucking idiot.10/23/2008 5:40:19 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
asking about it in 4 separate posts= harping on it 10/23/2008 5:40:23 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
"answering my question" by asking why i'm asking it and deflecting everything = yall being a bunch of bitches
lets make this about treetwista asking a question, and not about obama refusing to disclose his transcripts
so pathetic
harping on something would be constantly tying mccain to bush...constantly saying how dumb palin is...constantly saying how old mccain is............................................................
[Edited on October 23, 2008 at 5:42 PM. Reason : .] 10/23/2008 5:41:37 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe Obama will release his academic info as soon releases the information she was subpoenaed for in an investigation of her abuse of power as governor. 10/23/2008 5:41:46 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
this idiot treetwista wants him to disclose a dissertation that dosn't exist 10/23/2008 5:42:49 PM |
YOMAMA Suspended 6218 Posts user info edit post |
Why won't Obama release his college transcripts? Could it be that they show his birthplace as Kenya. Maybe that is how he paid for college, by using a special financing program or grant that is given for foreign born students? I also wonder who his real father is?
This is the shit running through your head just hoping its the case. 10/23/2008 5:43:38 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Quote : | "lets make this about treetwista asking a question, and not about obama refusing to disclose his transcripts" |
stick to posting youtube videos, retard
^but...thats all already public information...why not release it?
i'm done asking questions...there is no hope in getting answers from you guys...you're getting way too defensive over your man crush obama for literally no reason...i ask a simple question and get attacked...pa-the-tic
[Edited on October 23, 2008 at 5:45 PM. Reason : .]10/23/2008 5:44:02 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think someone's called McCain old in at least 5 pages. 10/23/2008 5:44:50 PM |
YOMAMA Suspended 6218 Posts user info edit post |
McCain = Old 10/23/2008 5:45:05 PM |
Ytsejam All American 2588 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "hey idiot
you don't write dissertations to get a masters" |
Yeah, don't call some one an idiot then in the same breath prove you are one.10/23/2008 5:47:58 PM |
YOMAMA Suspended 6218 Posts user info edit post |
10/23/2008 5:50:00 PM |