I'm way too angry about something that doesn't affect me

12/30/2010 10:46:10 PM

AIDS > BOB DAVIE

12/30/2010 10:46:11 PM

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARR

12/30/2010 10:46:35 PM

^^

AND

^^^

[Edited on December 30, 2010 at 10:46 PM. Reason : ]

12/30/2010 10:46:37 PM

does anyone actually give a shit about the uconn women?

12/30/2010 10:46:50 PM

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"I'm way too angry about something that doesn't affect me"

12/30/2010 10:47:06 PM

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"does anyone actually give a shit about the uconn women?"

I feel I can address this as a Connecticut native and UConn fan -- NO.

V that would be win-win. Shame for UNC and embarrassment for UT fans. Good stuff...

[Edited on December 30, 2010 at 10:48 PM. Reason : x]

12/30/2010 10:47:31 PM

Hopefully this will be vacated

12/30/2010 10:47:40 PM

I think bmfd blew his son

12/30/2010 10:47:55 PM

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"I'm way too angry about something that doesn't affect me"

[Edited on December 30, 2010 at 10:49 PM. Reason : I want to puke right now. UNC disgusts me.]

12/30/2010 10:48:10 PM

I don't understand why on review the moment the ball touches the ground is where the clock is frozen. The refs, not the clock keepers (unless I'm wrong, someone correct plz), are the ones that whistle the play dead. And if the ball hits the ground at 1 then there is obviously going to be a small delay from the time they see it hit, to the time they wave their hands, to the time the clock keeper reacts and stops the clock.

Is that not correct?

12/30/2010 10:48:19 PM

Carolina beat a team that couldn't beat a div. 1 team with a winning record. Big woot. FUCK IT I AM STILL PISSED.

12/30/2010 10:48:19 PM

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"I don't understand why on review the moment the ball touches the ground is where the clock is frozen. The refs, not the clock keepers (unless I'm wrong, someone correct plz), are the ones that whistle the play dead. And if the ball hits the ground at 1 then there is obviously going to be a small delay from the time they see it hit, to the time they wave their hands, to the time the clock keeper reacts and stops the clock. Is that not correct?"

See Nebraska-Texas in the Big XII title game last year. They always review those at the end and try and reset it as best as possible.

[Edited on December 30, 2010 at 10:49 PM. Reason : clarify]

12/30/2010 10:49:01 PM

Tonight the Nashville Shoney's waitstaff will feel the rage of a Jaybee scorned

12/30/2010 10:49:14 PM

yeah. i want a review on every incomplete pass when 0.5 seconds extra run off the clock

12/30/2010 10:49:18 PM

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"I'm way too angry about something that doesn't affect me"

I was pissed, and then I remembered that I hate both of these teams.

12/30/2010 10:49:19 PM

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"I don't understand why on review the moment the ball touches the ground is where the clock is frozen. The refs, not the clock keepers (unless I'm wrong, someone correct plz), are the ones that whistle the play dead. And if the ball hits the ground at 1 then there is obviously going to be a small delay from the time they see it hit, to the time they wave their hands, to the time the clock keeper reacts and stops the clock. Is that not correct?"

Totally correct

And completely reviewable

12/30/2010 10:49:50 PM

Just remember everyone...we only beat them because of a couple of fluke plays. They beat Tennessee by persevering through adversity, and making great play after great play under the leadership of Butch Davis.

All praise be to Carolina.

12/30/2010 10:50:53 PM

So you're saying on review they can correct the time to the instant it touches?

12/30/2010 10:51:00 PM

Yes.

There is precedent.

12/30/2010 10:51:24 PM

^^Yes.

^^^Three PF calls in the last 20 seconds or so also helped.

[Edited on December 30, 2010 at 10:52 PM. Reason : -]

12/30/2010 10:52:15 PM

I stopped watching once dude missed the extra point.

The game shoulda been over in regulation.

12/30/2010 10:52:20 PM

@jjones9: Tennessee fan poured beer on my colleague as we walked onto the field.

12/30/2010 10:57:15 PM

Another question about this game:

Shouldn't the clock remain running after the penalty?

UNC tried to spike the ball, but that play never actually occured becuase of the 26 "men" on the field. Shouldn't they get penalized 5 yds and then the clock start with 1 second?

Barth kicked on a stopped clock...woulda been harder if you had 1 second at the live ball

12/30/2010 10:58:39 PM

Come on guys, lets all give congratulations to UNC. This is their first bowl win since 2001. They'll go 13-0 next year for sure.

12/30/2010 11:01:03 PM

^^I would love to say yes....
but its unc.. rules dont apply

hopefully this win will be vacated anyways

[Edited on December 30, 2010 at 11:02 PM. Reason : .]

12/30/2010 11:01:19 PM

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"Another question about this game: Shouldn't the clock remain running after the penalty? UNC tried to spike the ball, but that play never actually occured becuase of the 26 "men" on the field. Shouldn't they get penalized 5 yds and then the clock start with 1 second? Barth kicked on a stopped clock...woulda been harder if you had 1 second at the live ball"

Ernie, what is your ruling bo?

12/30/2010 11:03:10 PM

The play did occur, though.. Why would the clock keep running. Have you guys never seen a play finished out and then a too many men on the field flag?

12/30/2010 11:05:36 PM

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"The play did occur, though.. Why would the clock keep running. Have you guys never seen a play finished out and then a too many men on the field flag? "

I'm no ref.... but if you have 17 men on the field, throw a 40 yard bomb...they don't let you keep the 40 yard bomb and just back it up 5 yards from the end of that play. The 40 yard bomb doesn't count

That's effectively what happened there.

The spiking of the ball occured on a play with a penalty on the offense. Thus, it does not count...no? Shouldn't the clock remain running at the live ball whistle, then?



[Edited on December 30, 2010 at 11:09 PM. Reason : ]

12/30/2010 11:07:33 PM

it isn't a question of the play being completed or not. Isn't the rule that the clock starts on the ready to play signal after a penalty?

12/30/2010 11:08:48 PM

12/30/2010 11:09:27 PM

I don't really have it in me to draw this out since I'm tired... but look at it like an illegal motion call. If it's a running play that stays inbounds the clock runs on the restart. If it's an incomplete pass, the clock will be stopped on the restart.

Same principle. The game resumes based on the outcome of the last play with regards to the clock. Nothing fishy there.

12/30/2010 11:09:35 PM

Yeah, question is whether the clock should have started on the snap or the ref's signal

Seems to me it should have been on the signal

No one is saying that the clock shouldn't have stopped at all

12/30/2010 11:11:01 PM

it's a loophole in the rules and the reason the NFL has the 10 second runoff

/argument

12/30/2010 11:11:28 PM

i hope butch davis dies

12/30/2010 11:11:33 PM

If the play goes off with 12+ men on the field, the ruling should be illegal participation instead of illegal substitution. Illegal participation is a 15 yard penalty.

So basically the refs fucked up. You can either have a stopped clock and a 15 yarder, or a dead ball 5 yard penalty with the clock starting on the refs whistle.

[Edited on December 30, 2010 at 11:27 PM. Reason : .]

12/30/2010 11:11:46 PM

^^^ this

And I actually thought they had the 10 second runoff as well for holding calls and whatnot, but I guess I was wrong.

[Edited on December 30, 2010 at 11:12 PM. Reason : x]

12/30/2010 11:12:00 PM

oh my god they killed jake locker

[Edited on December 30, 2010 at 11:13 PM. Reason : .]

12/30/2010 11:13:15 PM

Thank god this uconn shit is over

12/30/2010 11:25:40 PM

^ ZOMG DID YOU HEAR THEY HAD LIKE AN 89 GAME WIN STREAK GOING?

12/30/2010 11:27:51 PM

that's just an old wives tale

12/30/2010 11:31:33 PM

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"Another question about this game: Shouldn't the clock remain running after the penalty? UNC tried to spike the ball, but that play never actually occured becuase of the 26 "men" on the field. Shouldn't they get penalized 5 yds and then the clock start with 1 second? Barth kicked on a stopped clock...woulda been harder if you had 1 second at the live ball"

Thinking the same thing.
I just don't understand the ruling.
Based on this, if an offense has 0 TOs at the end of a game, they can just run an extra man on the field so they can get a stopped clock and give up only 5 yards?

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"it's a loophole in the rules and the reason the NFL has the 10 second runoff /argument"

Which begs the question, why the hell does the NCAA not have rule in place to address this issue?


[Edited on December 30, 2010 at 11:58 PM. Reason : ]

12/30/2010 11:57:17 PM

Couple of things I didn't get about the game:

1) Why did they go back and review the play on that catch when UNC had already run another play that should've ended the game?

2) Why did the referee not stand over the ball at the end of the game and not allow Tenn. to substitute players when UNC was allowed to run a substitution?

3) Why was an illegal motion penalty not enforced before the FG when they more than 3 guys in motion?

12/31/2010 12:01:18 AM

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"Couple of things I didn't get about the game: 1) Why did they go back and review the play on that catch when UNC had already run another play that should've ended the game? 2) Why did the referee not stand over the ball at the end of the game and not allow Tenn. to substitute players when UNC was allowed to run a substitution? 3) Why was an illegal motion penalty not enforced before the FG when they more than 3 guys in motion?"

1) The refs said they were buzzed prior to the ball being snapped...they threw a flag and then said there was no penatly, but they were buzzed to review it.

2) Thought the same thing

3) Also don't know...

12/31/2010 12:06:29 AM

I think they need a rule where if a ref comes onto the field, turns on his mic, and then announces that the game is over then the goddamn game is over. They should call it the "rule of common sense"

12/31/2010 12:14:12 AM

^We could have used that in the Akron game during Chuck's last season. That was ridiculous.

12/31/2010 12:15:44 AM

kinda funny that Dooley has had two almost victories in one season

12/31/2010 12:22:11 AM

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"Based on this, if an offense has 0 TOs at the end of a game, they can just run an extra man on the field so they can get a stopped clock and give up only 5 yards?"

No. The refs misapplied the rules. Should have been a 15 yard illegal participation penalty since the play wasn't blown dead before the snap (illegal shift would have been declined).

Had the refs blown the play dead and called illegal substitution, then it's 5 yards, but the clock starts on the ready-for-play whistle.

[Edited on December 31, 2010 at 12:23 AM. Reason : .]

12/31/2010 12:23:00 AM

^That's what I thought was right...but obviously that's not what was called.

The whole thing is confusing. I really don't like Tennessee, but I almost feel bad for them...losing this game and the LSU game.

12/31/2010 12:28:49 AM

every Tennessee fan shot during that game was a+

12/31/2010 12:29:17 AM