MinkaGrl01
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How fitting this is in drhavoc's photo gallery
4/19/2011 12:05:36 PM |
sparky Garage Mod 12301 Posts user info edit post |
DOCUMENTATION...DOCUMENTATION...DOCUMENTATION!!!
all engineers hate it but it is so important especially in a case like this. i think mr. ward would have documented his work if he knew ahead of time what he was investigating. 4/19/2011 12:06:21 PM |
Beethoven86 All American 3001 Posts user info edit post |
There's nothing to say that he didn't document his work--just that he didn't include step by step into the report. 4/19/2011 12:07:58 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
^^ agreed completely.
[Edited on April 19, 2011 at 12:08 PM. Reason : .] 4/19/2011 12:08:16 PM |
rbrthwrd Suspended 3125 Posts user info edit post |
i've been involved in lawsuits where the company i worked for had someone as an expert and drawing on that experience this current lack of documentation and methodology catches my attention and raises flags 4/19/2011 12:08:43 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
God damn this feed is fucking choking 4/19/2011 12:09:25 PM |
dbmcknight All American 4030 Posts user info edit post |
SPECIAL AGENT JOHNSON, YOU SAY?!
cover=BLOWN 4/19/2011 12:10:57 PM |
MinkaGrl01
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people are jumping on during their lunch breaks damn you buffer monster! 4/19/2011 12:11:01 PM |
DivaBaby19 Davidbaby19 45208 Posts user info edit post |
lol another good screen capture moment
judge scratching his head 4/19/2011 12:13:23 PM |
rbrthwrd Suspended 3125 Posts user info edit post |
last statement by the defense is very good 4/19/2011 12:13:51 PM |
dbmcknight All American 4030 Posts user info edit post |
judge is gonna knock out the expert tag methinks 4/19/2011 12:14:17 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
Eat a dick Boz. 4/19/2011 12:14:26 PM |
Specter All American 6575 Posts user info edit post |
Judge sounds like he just woke up.
looks like this is going to be a win for the prosecution.
[Edited on April 19, 2011 at 12:18 PM. Reason : ] 4/19/2011 12:14:38 PM |
sparky Garage Mod 12301 Posts user info edit post |
YAY....I'll allow it!! 4/19/2011 12:15:12 PM |
sparky Garage Mod 12301 Posts user info edit post |
oh damn....spoke too soon...can't speak as a forensic analyst 4/19/2011 12:16:21 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Nope, not really. Just said he can't interpret the data, which was their whole reason to bring him in - to testify to some time stamp or other. 4/19/2011 12:16:48 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
and Judge "I'll Allow It" shows his prosecution bias once again 4/19/2011 12:17:23 PM |
TaterSalad All American 6256 Posts user info edit post |
Boom, outta here 4/19/2011 12:18:14 PM |
sparky Garage Mod 12301 Posts user info edit post |
it probably would have been better if he couldn't testify at all...he is going to get torn up on cross 4/19/2011 12:18:34 PM |
rbrthwrd Suspended 3125 Posts user info edit post |
i don't think the defense did a good enough job differentiating between forensic analysis and network security. they tried to make a run at the very end to argue that analyzing the FBI's data would fall under his experience as a network security expert, but did not do a good job showing that from the beginning. i don't think its bias by the judge, the defense needed to do a better job showing why he was qualified instead of waiting for the last second to try to spell it out. 4/19/2011 12:19:04 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
So I guess they'll have to settle for a "someone could have hacked into Brad's computer to get that data there" testimony.
Ladies and gentlemen of the court... he had BonziBUDDY installed on his PC. 4/19/2011 12:24:21 PM |
Specter All American 6575 Posts user info edit post |
so question - how many other people did Brad/Defense have analyze the PC to verify if the Google Maps data had been altered? Was Ward the only one? 4/19/2011 12:33:42 PM |
sparky Garage Mod 12301 Posts user info edit post |
if they were smart they got more then one expert opinion 4/19/2011 12:34:53 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
They still have the data I assume so I am sure they can find someone else that is an expert or whatever they want and get him/her to go back on that same info and document and trace every bit of that information.
then again Kurtz could word it where he doesnt seem to be an expert in forensics just in looking at security breached data. 4/19/2011 12:45:31 PM |
Budiss All American 2348 Posts user info edit post |
Are we in recess? 4/19/2011 12:46:00 PM |
MinkaGrl01
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we are^ 4/19/2011 12:46:20 PM |
Beethoven86 All American 3001 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "then again Kurtz could word it where he doesn't seem to be an expert in forensics just in looking at security breached data." |
That was the purpose here. The judge is just too stupid to understand the difference. Really--someone with 18 years of security analysis isn't qualified, but an FBI guy who can't figure out how to turn on a phone is??4/19/2011 12:47:58 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
i think all the judge wanted to do was do away with that whole forensics expert tag.
he still can be used to testify to security matters though. 4/19/2011 12:51:03 PM |
Beethoven86 All American 3001 Posts user info edit post |
No--he can't analyze the computer data at all. 4/19/2011 12:52:31 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
I call into question this judges methodology to run a trial. 4/19/2011 12:57:29 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
has anyone on here done forensic work on computers other than havoc?
or is certified on those platforms? 4/19/2011 12:57:33 PM |
Budiss All American 2348 Posts user info edit post |
Shit.. this witness can't be taped? 4/19/2011 12:59:09 PM |
sparky Garage Mod 12301 Posts user info edit post |
they are in recess 4/19/2011 1:00:44 PM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
They returned from lunch recess, and now special agent gregory johnson is on the stand 4/19/2011 1:01:29 PM |
sparky Garage Mod 12301 Posts user info edit post |
ah....missed that 4/19/2011 1:02:36 PM |
raiden All American 10505 Posts user info edit post |
good thing they protected his identity. 4/19/2011 1:05:09 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
If you guys were paying attention, you already know what SA Johnson looks like 4/19/2011 1:06:10 PM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
anyone got any photos of nancy cooper 4/19/2011 1:08:09 PM |
raiden All American 10505 Posts user info edit post |
in before a picture of some slut suckin 9 cocks at the same time/getting gang banged by 9 dudes at the same time. 4/19/2011 1:09:53 PM |
Geppetto All American 2157 Posts user info edit post |
rule 34? 4/19/2011 1:10:53 PM |
MinkaGrl01
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Nancy Cooper (center) with her brother and father. Photo provided to media by Jill Dean, sister of Nancy Cooper.
4/19/2011 1:11:39 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
I heard Nancy liked the Johnson 4/19/2011 1:13:49 PM |
Geppetto All American 2157 Posts user info edit post |
wait, maybe that is why they said she always wore a pearl necklace. 4/19/2011 1:19:04 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
She looks like a total alcoholic slut whore in that pic. 4/19/2011 1:21:01 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
^ 4/19/2011 1:23:43 PM |
TaterSalad All American 6256 Posts user info edit post |
Though I've disagreed with some of the judge's rulings thus far, the defense did a poor job with presenting this expert. It also doesn't help that he has next to zero forensic experience and has no documented procedures for what he did with the hard drive. 4/19/2011 1:25:43 PM |
TaterSalad All American 6256 Posts user info edit post |
Also, saggy tits ITT 4/19/2011 1:26:30 PM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
Is that the best pic we have? 4/19/2011 1:31:31 PM |
puck_it All American 15446 Posts user info edit post |
What made cfry any more expert than him? 4/19/2011 1:33:49 PM |
TaterSalad All American 6256 Posts user info edit post |
Set em up 4/19/2011 1:35:26 PM |