8-8 would require some miracles

3/15/2009 5:06:55 PM

This is only one of the latest of symptoms of a much larger problem.

3/15/2009 5:20:08 PM

Quote :

"I don't know what kind of fantasy world you are living in Bullet, but I'm dumb founded that you are trying to argue semantics of my statements (which you know in your heart are true) regarding the state of our basketball program. Your passion for coach Lowe far exceeds your passion for NC State basketball as a whole."

It ain't semantics. You're a troll and you know it. Your sole purpose is to throw out negative shit and hope someone's stupid enough to bite (like me). I challenge you to find one single time I ever showed "passion for coach Lowe". I've argued that firing him now would be more detrimental to the team that giving him another two years and see what happens. And you keep putting words my mouth, and anyone else's who doesn't agree with your absolute assessments.

So again, I challenge you to find one single time I "showed passion for Lowe", or really even praised him in any way.

VV Not good enough Ohboyeee. I've said to give the man a chance, and I've argued that firing him right now is not good idea, which I'm still arguing. Find one actual quote where I "show passion" for him. Not just "every post you make"-shit. If you can't, please just stfu, you childish troll.

[Edited on March 15, 2009 at 6:06 PM. Reason : ]

3/15/2009 5:44:52 PM

Nah, just let him keep going.

3/15/2009 5:48:18 PM

^^ those sure sound like words of one who has been defeated and beaten back. So you are admitting that Lowe isn't going to work out for us as a head coach in basketball then, right?

Quote :

"I challenge you to find one single time I ever showed "passion for coach Lowe"."

pretty much every post you made in the credibility watch thread and the now unfortunately locked Fire Sidney Lowe thread.

[Edited on March 15, 2009 at 5:50 PM. Reason : .]

3/15/2009 5:48:38 PM

Give the man 5 years, then see where we are. Herb got 5 years, Sid should too.

3/15/2009 5:52:04 PM

See, you forget that to OhBoyeee any support of a coach whatsoever is construed as "passion".

3/15/2009 6:12:49 PM

hahahah, even some dumb high school kid figured out that our coach is shit, and here we have a message board full of college students who can't figure it. fucking pathetic.

3/15/2009 7:02:54 PM

and the funny thing is he disappeared when we starting playing better

We trip up down the stretch and guess who shows back up bitching about lowe

With all the haterade that OhBoyeee is drinking you'd think lowe had kicked his dog or something.

3/15/2009 7:04:46 PM

whatever you fucking idiot spreading bull shit. I was around on our winning streak.

3/15/2009 7:38:55 PM

Quote :

"hahahah, even some dumb high school kid figured out that our coach is shit, and here we have a message board full of college students who can't figure it. fucking pathetic."

or maybe it's just that this is what people that think at a high school level think.

3/15/2009 7:44:31 PM

^ either way it is what it is. If Lowe could have figured out a way to win more games we likely wouldn't be having this conversation.

3/15/2009 7:49:31 PM

I'm definitely not saying Sid is a good coach, but he's only had 3 yrs, with Herb's players and a basically empty recruiting class his first year. I don't think he's the coach of the future and it pisses me off to see Leslie withdraw his commitment, but he played for nc state, loves nc state, and deserves more time. Besides, if we fire Sid, who the hell else should we hire that really has a decent shot of actually wanting to come coach here?

3/15/2009 9:11:03 PM

What we really need is for K and Roy to retire, and for them not to hire the best young coach in the game which I'm sure they will. So I guess whenever somebody thinks that it might be K's last year, we go ahead and fire our coach (it might be like 10 years down the road) and throw like $10M/yr at whoever's the best young coach so we can get a jump start on them. This shit looks like it might suck for a while to come. I think we should play in Reynolds too.

3/15/2009 9:20:29 PM

well shit.

you're not going to be very happy for the next while, then.

3/15/2009 9:29:39 PM

http://blogs.newsobserver.com/accnow/pack-recruit-reopens-search

Pack recruit reopens search

Lisa Leslie has confirmed that her son, Word of God Christian Academy basketball player C.J. Leslie, has withdrawn the verbal commitment he made to N.C. State as a high school freshman, while making clear that she still likes NCSU and her son is still considering playing for Wolfpack coach Sidney Lowe.

"He just wanted to expand his visits to other schools," said Lisa Leslie, who added that she and her son had decided Saturday night to open the search again.

Mitch Summerfield, Word of God's chief operating officer and son of founder Dr. Frank Summerfield, confirmed that Memphis is among the other schools that the 6-foot-9 junior would like to visit but would not specify where else he might look. Memphis and N.C. State are also on the list of Leslie's Word of God teammate, John Wall, a senior point guard who intends to turn pro after his freshman year in college.

Leslie, ranked as the No. 4 power forward nationally by the recruiting web site scout.com, "really hasn't thought that whole process through yet," Summerfield said.

"I'm in N.C. State's corner, of course," he added. "I'm pushing [N.C. State]."

Summerfield said that the chances are "still very strong" that Leslie will wind up at State. "He actually talked to Sidney Lowe directly to let him know they are still on his list," Summerfield said. "He just wants to make sure he’s not hurting his chances of being ranked and all of the things that go along with his summer this year."

T.J. Jones, coach of the Lake Norman Wizards, a 16-and-under traveling team based in the Charlotte area, said Leslie would play for his team for the first time this summer.

Summerfield said Leslie basically felt he had committed too early — before he had progressed athletically and academically in the past two years. Summerfield would not specify the student's grade-point average but said it was above the minimum 2.4 that Word of God requires for athletes to be eligible to compete.

[Edited on March 15, 2009 at 10:19 PM. Reason : .]

3/15/2009 10:18:34 PM

Should I have known that he's Lisa Leslie's son?

Does this mean he has awesome dunking skills?

3/15/2009 10:35:50 PM

lol, memphis

3/15/2009 10:37:44 PM

Is it the Lisa Leslie or is it just a coincidence?

3/15/2009 10:41:19 PM

So in the past week, week and a half:

John Wall (#1 recruit in '09) visited Baylor and claimed Memphis as his leader even though Lowe was the first to recruit him
NC State loses to Maryland in the ACC tourney by showing no passion for the game whatsoever and finishes 6-11 in the ACC in underachieving style (and didn't even make the NIT!)
CJ Leslie (Top-50 recruit in '10) who had been committed to NC State since his sophomore year, has re-opened recruitment and claims Memphis as one of his other suitors
Lorenzo Brown (top-30 recruit in '09) is rumored to be academically ineligible


I think this is the definition of NC STATE SHIT

3/15/2009 10:43:15 PM

sounds like one hell of a milf

3/15/2009 10:43:36 PM

Quote :

"hould I have known that he's Lisa Leslie's son? "

hahaha

if only it was that lisa leslie


[Edited on March 15, 2009 at 10:44 PM. Reason : .]

3/15/2009 10:43:46 PM

Coincidence. I know some of his relatives (all UNC fans of course) and it's definitely not THE Lisa Leslie.

3/15/2009 10:43:55 PM

Reggie Miller is the father, too...

No it's not that Lisa Leslie...

3/15/2009 10:44:40 PM

Quote :

"i really can't help but feel like we're losing the wheels here. speculation that brown won't qualify. speculation that howell's back is out again. rumors that leslie wants more attention. it's a perfect storm of state basketball insecurity."

let's see if i can go 3/3.

3/15/2009 10:47:12 PM

this is unreal... our program is sputtering

3/15/2009 10:48:33 PM

NC State = guy with no arms and no legs from Monty Python and the Holy Grail

3/15/2009 10:50:33 PM

Quote :

"John Wall (#1 recruit in '09) visited Baylor and claimed Memphis as his leader even though Lowe was the first to recruit him NC State loses to Maryland in the ACC tourney by showing no passion for the game whatsoever and finishes 6-11 in the ACC in underachieving style (and didn't even make the NIT!) CJ Leslie (Top-50 recruit in '10) who had been committed to NC State since his sophomore year, has re-opened recruitment and claims Memphis as one of his other suitors Lorenzo Brown (top-30 recruit in '09) is rumored to be academically ineligible"

Add Demarcus Cousins to Memphis

3/15/2009 10:58:38 PM

man, we're getting fucked

3/15/2009 11:01:30 PM

im a retard

[Edited on March 15, 2009 at 11:32 PM. Reason : n]

3/15/2009 11:22:49 PM

i read that whole thing expecting something new, but it's still the same as the article posted about 10 posts up.

3/15/2009 11:28:51 PM

Reading this topic really gets me down

3/15/2009 11:30:03 PM

Quote :

"I think we should play in Reynolds too."

At this rate we might have to play EVERY game in Reynolds. Other than vs UNC when do we actually fill the RBC center? Our program wastes money renting out that damn stadium (I sat with Chancellor Oblinger for a game once, he told me it takes almost $100,000 per game to rent the building, pay the electricity bill, and pay all the staff). More games in Reynolds = more money for recruitment. UNC and maybe Duke should be our only games played at RBC, we don't even fill up for Wake anymore.

3/16/2009 12:10:55 AM

now i'm not a math major, but he failed to mention this:

at 14,000 seats x $30 a pop, we are bringing in revenue of around $420,000, not to mention concessions and merchandise, so even -100,000 the per game profit is still ridiculous

even with shitty attendance, why on earth would you wanna go back to reynolds?

[Edited on March 16, 2009 at 12:42 AM. Reason : .]

3/16/2009 12:41:12 AM

someone just firebombed our recruiting. good lord, that was the only thing lowe had.

3/16/2009 12:46:08 AM

our program has been nuked/

3/16/2009 12:59:32 AM

Hopefully are current players will be working out on their own starting yesterday to get better, more athletic, and more confident for next year. That is what I am praying for atleast

3/16/2009 1:00:33 AM

BEGIN CONSTRUCTION OF THE BIODOME

3/16/2009 1:01:12 AM

3/16/2009 1:05:41 AM

Quote :

"and the funny thing is he disappeared when we starting playing better"

It's hard to be pleased when we have a three-game stretch where we actually play like we can.

Then only to shit the bed against Maryland, Miami, and Maryland again in the ACCT.

3/16/2009 1:47:22 AM

Quote :

"Our program wastes money renting out that damn stadium...More games in Reynolds = more money for recruitment."

that is one of the dumbest things I've ever read

3/16/2009 2:04:13 AM

can't lo brown do like they do at unc and take some fake online classes to get the grades up?

3/16/2009 2:36:06 AM

reading this thread first thing this morning is a great way to ruin my monday

3/16/2009 8:32:52 AM

Yeah. I agree. This thread has me so dissapointed that I think this will be the last time I post or look at it for quite some time.

3/16/2009 8:54:07 AM

same

3/16/2009 8:56:03 AM

I've got nothing. Been on the Lowe bandwagon for a long time, but this is just heart-breaking. Still got nothing but respect for the man, and I truly believe he can still turn things around... But damn...

Honestly I haven't been this depressed about State bball in my entire life...

3/16/2009 9:10:10 AM

Quote :

"Lorenzo Brown (top-30 recruit in '09) is rumored to be academically ineligible""

Most devastating news of all

3/16/2009 9:12:24 AM

Quote :

"Lorenzo Brown (top-30 recruit in '09) is rumored to be academically ineligible an alien life form, making him ineligible to play Div. I ball."

3/16/2009 9:24:37 AM

Quote :

"or maybe it's just that this is what people that think at a high school level think."

...who exactly do you think we're trying to recruit?

3/16/2009 9:30:25 AM

Lo Brown needs to take the SAT again but he's going to qualify and is really close.

Coach Whitehart stated he was going to qualify, said so without question and it's just a matter of time.

Both say hes doing realy well this semester and with the sliding scale that could probably do it anyways.

3/16/2009 9:53:14 AM