must be subconscious then

3/22/2007 12:26:29 PM

Your mom's subconscious.

Look at me, I'm raising the level of debate.

3/22/2007 12:32:30 PM

hey look my grandmother died a couple years ago

that means you should have respect for my family and therefore cannot criticize anything i do

3/22/2007 12:33:32 PM

3/22/2007 12:33:53 PM

I hope the people that are on their high horse right now remember the comments they make about people such as Helms, Reagan, Cheney etc

3/22/2007 4:21:43 PM

^well, there is a slight difference between wishing that Cheney was killed (lets take the recent Iraq incident as an example) and making a joke that everyone was making about Edwards anyway. I mean I don't think anybodies joking that Mrs. Edwards ought to die.

3/22/2007 9:23:25 PM

He is just hoping she dies so he can chase the ambulance to the hospital and sue someone.

[Edited on March 22, 2007 at 9:37 PM. Reason : sdf]

3/22/2007 9:36:41 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/25/dems.2008.ap/index.html

Quote :

"Edwards presses rivals for details at health care forum. LAS VEGAS, Nevada (AP) -- John Edwards said Saturday he will definitely stay in the presidential race, trying to reassure voters and donors that he can handle the dual pressure of the campaign and his wife's cancer diagnosis. At a Democratic presidential forum focused on health care, Edwards pressed his rivals to provide a detailed plan to cover the nation's uninsured -- estimated at about 47 million -- and describe how they will pay for it. His chief competitors, Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, did not rule out the possibility that they would follow his lead with a plan requiring a tax increase, but they provided no specifics. "I have not foreclosed the possibility that we might need additional revenue in order to achieve my goal, but we shouldn't underestimate the amount of money that can be saved in the existing system," Obama said when asked whether he would raise taxes to reach his goal of universal coverage by the end of his first term. "I can tell you I will do whatever it takes," the Illinois senator added. Clinton did not say whether or not she is considering a tax increase, but said she cannot see putting more money into what she described as the current broken system. She said she is committed to succeeding where she failed with the health care plan she crafted in her husband's first term in the White House. "We're going to change the way we finance the system by taking away money from people who are doing well now," said Clinton, who represents New York in the Senate. Asked who she was referring to, she mentioned insurance companies. The forum was sponsored by the Service Employees International Union and the Center for American Progress Action Fund, a Washington-based policy group. It came two days after Edwards announced that the breast cancer that his wife thought she had beaten had returned, this time in her bone. He pointed out his wife, Elizabeth, sitting in the front row and said they both understand that dealing with their personal struggle will require "a focus and a maturity." "I'm definitely in the race for the duration," he said. "This is not the first challenge that Elizabeth and I have been through." Edwards pointed out that they lost their teenage son, Wade, 11 years ago in a car accident -- something that he didn't talk about much when he ran for president four years ago. "I know because of the nature of the woman I'm married to that she will be there every single step of the way," he said. "We take our responsibility to serving this country very seriously." Edwards said he and his wife are getting too much credit for forging ahead when millions of women are enduring the same struggle and the additional worry of getting the necessary care. "One of the reasons that I want to be president of the United States is to make sure that every woman and every person in America gets the same things that we have," Edwards said. His plan would require employers to provide insurance and individuals to have it at a cost of $90 billion to $120 billion. Edwards said any politicians who say they can provide universal health care and other promises while ending the federal deficit are not being honest. "They've probably got a bridge in Brooklyn they want to sell you, too," Edwards said to laughter and applause. "I just don't think it can be done." "

I think his views on health care are going to keep pushing him towards the top. I feel fairly confident at this point he will be somewhere on the democratic ticket. This article points out that they’ve dealt family challenges before like the loss of a son and I think it’s great that Mrs. Edwards is choosing to keep living her life to the fullest and that this can be a “teaching moment” for the nation on breast cancer/health issues. Lincoln lost a son in office and still did good things, and Cheney was able to stay a heart beat away from the presidency for this long time even with his heart issues, so I don’t think this should be detrimental to their campaign.

3/25/2007 9:57:57 AM

Quote :

"this can be a “teaching moment” for the nation on breast cancer/health issues."

I'm already tired of hearing this. It's nice that they're continuing on, but similar (and worse) things happen to thousands of people across the country everyday. They are not unique in their decision to carry on. They are not stronger than others who have decided to carry on. But I can already tell that every other article about his campaign is going to have some reference to how strong Edwards and his family are, to carry on in spite of such adversity...just look at the tragedy in his life; his son, his wife...how can be so strong to campaign for President?

Quote :

""We're going to change the way we finance the system by taking away money from people who are doing well now," said Clinton"

Wow.

Quote :

"Edwards said any politicians who say they can provide universal health care and other promises while ending the federal deficit are not being honest."

So universal health care and zero federal deficit are mutually exclusive?

3/25/2007 10:50:49 AM

Quote :

"They are not unique in their decision to carry on. They are not stronger than others who have decided to carry on. But I can already tell that every other article about his campaign is going to have some reference to how strong Edwards and his family are, to carry on in spite of such adversity...just look at the tragedy in his life; his son, his wife...how can be so strong to campaign for President?"

while i agree up to a point, i don't think the idea is that they're somehow special because of her condition. they're in a position where they can reach a lot of people and use it as a way of putting this issue on people's minds.

3/25/2007 11:12:26 AM

Quote :

"use it as a way of putting this issue on people's minds."

That's the thing: what issue?

Cancer?

I'm pretty sure that most everyone in the country is aware of cancer.

3/25/2007 12:57:04 PM

being aware of something and actively thinking about it are two entirely different things.

3/25/2007 1:18:35 PM

Seeing as cancer affects about 1 in 20 people or so, I imagine that most everyone is aware of and has thought of cancer.

3/25/2007 2:11:42 PM

so it's a bad thing that a candidate whose wife has cancer has said that his wife has cancer?

or are you just upset about the media coverage of this?

3/25/2007 2:14:46 PM

Quote :

"It's nice that they're continuing on...But I can already tell that every other article about his campaign is going to have some reference to how strong Edwards and his family are"

The media coverage. The fact that the wife of prominent public figuring running for President has cancer is newsworthy, and it's unsurprising that he would announce it.

Quote :

"Edwards said he and his wife are getting too much credit for forging ahead"

If he sticks with this, that's fine. But if keeps harping on the cancer and adds on

Quote :

"when millions of women are enduring the same struggle and the additional worry of getting the necessary care."

all the time, it's going to get really old.

[Edited on March 25, 2007 at 2:22 PM. Reason : ]

3/25/2007 2:21:15 PM

Quote :

"I think it’s great that Mrs. Edwards is choosing to keep living her life to the fullest and that this can be a “teaching moment” for the nation on breast cancer/health issues"

Kay Yow does it

I'd much rather hear about her anyway


plus she's done lots more for helping with cancer research

for some reason I'm not surprised that Edwards sees this as an opportunity to pick up some of the sympathy vote

3/25/2007 2:44:51 PM

Shit, I woulda kept the cancer thing secret.

I don't want my president to have some sick wife to worry about all the time.

3/25/2007 3:02:10 PM

^x10

The new revised figure says 44 million people dont have any healthcare in America. 1/5 in Nevada dont. The fact that he is the only candidate with a plan is going to be a huge boost. Especially since Obama's entire campaign is built on the premise that we dont need no stinking plans or policy proposals, and Hillary has said she would bring Universal Healthcare in her Second term (her words not mine)

3/25/2007 3:56:45 PM

Quote :

"RevoltNow: since Obama's entire campaign is built on the premise that we dont need no stinking plans or policy proposals, and Hillary has said she would bring Universal Healthcare in her Second term"

In all fairness, Obama's been in the presidential race for a fraction of the time that Edwards has. Obama only formally announced his candidacy a month and a half ago. He's not one of those candidates who six months ago knew he'd be running for President...his frenzy had reached a fever pitch, so he jumped in...he really is just getting started.

Even if you put aside that Edwards has, essentially, been running for president since 2004, you'll have to acknowledge that more than 1.5 months passed between his official entry into 2008 campaign and the release of his universal health care plan.

Does he need a health care plan? Absolutely...but it's a double standard to extend some type of timeline to Obama when none existed for Edwards.

3/25/2007 10:00:24 PM

very true. but even outside of health care obama has been slow to make actual policy proposals. his record in the senate isnt exactly full of meaningful legislation. now granted, he is only a junior senator, but there is nothing stopping him from drafting bills and showing he is trying.

3/25/2007 10:23:50 PM

i wish edwards would drop out already...along with obama and clinton

all 3 of them suck...i'm voting for guiliani

3/26/2007 10:42:22 AM

i wish everyone i dont like would drop out too. that way we could stop this charade of a democracy and move right into a dictatorship. at least that way i would get my way 100% of the time.

3/26/2007 10:06:36 PM

idk i just dont think a black man or a white woman can win the presidency and u know john edwards aint gonna win it

3/27/2007 12:36:01 AM

Quote :

"That's the thing: what issue? Cancer? I'm pretty sure that most everyone in the country is aware of cancer."

Exactly. I only want to hear from celebrities and politicians who were involved in the cause before it happened to them. Otherwise, its just self-preservation. How noble.


PS All this Edwards stuff on the TV is only marginally less annoying than the Anna Nicole Smith crap.

[Edited on March 27, 2007 at 12:35 PM. Reason : PS]

3/27/2007 12:32:54 PM

is there really anybody in the country (old enough to run for President) who hasnt been affected by cancer, whether it be a family member or friend or co-worker, etc?

3/27/2007 12:41:56 PM

No, 60 minutes told me that Edwards and his wife are the first to face a battle with cancer

3/27/2007 12:42:53 PM

Quote :

" Edwards said he and his wife are getting too much credit for forging ahead when millions of women are enduring the same struggle and the additional worry of getting the necessary care. "One of the reasons that I want to be president of the United States is to make sure that every woman and every person in America gets the same things that we have," Edwards said."

Even though they are saying things like this pointing out how their case is nothing special, apparently their online donations are sky rocketing (according to a report I heard on NPR on the way home from work today).

3/28/2007 7:54:17 PM

Quote :

" In just over 24 hours, the books close forever on our first-quarter fundraising. Right now, the future of our campaign and everything we're working to achieve is in your hands. At 11:59 PM tomorrow night, the phones will start ringing off the hook with reporters asking if we raised enough money to stay in the game. If the answer is "yes!" we'll earn news stories across the country announcing that a campaign based on bold plans and real substance can still succeed in American politics. Millions of new voters will learn about the big goals we share and sign up to join the team. We'll be on the road to victory. Right now, as never before, your contributions have the power to shape the future of this campaign. Please dig deep and give whatever you can—knowing that every dollar you add today will have an unprecedented power to make the vision we share a reality. http://johnedwards.com/r/9116/813727/ If you support the big goals of this campaign, it's time to ask yourself: Who is going to pitch in at this critical moment? Who is going to step up to make sure we succeed? There are some people who want to escalate the war in Iraq and oppose any real plan to bring our troops home—it won't be them. There are some people who think America is just not ready for universal health care—it won't be them. There are some who think it's simply not their responsibility to worry about poverty in the streets of their city or in a village halfway around the world—it won't be them. And there are some people who are not interested in conserving energy and think global warming isn't a threat—it certainly won't be them. This is why most candidates don't get specific; they want to be all things to all people and not lose anyone's support. But I am getting specific because I know that to really achieve the transformational change we believe in, there's just no other way. If you share a commitment to ending the war, guaranteeing health care for all, stopping global warming and building a fair, prosperous economy for everyone, no one else is going to step up in your place to make it all happen—it has to be you. And with this deadline one day away, it has to be now: http://johnedwards.com/r/9118/813727/ Thank you for taking action today, John Edwards "

3/30/2007 7:02:41 PM

Tonight could be the end of the campaign if they don't hit the line for campaign finances required to stay in past the 1st quarter.

3/31/2007 5:50:15 AM

Looks like they exceeded their online fund raising goals & got the press they were looking for.

http://www.wral.com/news/state/story/1255896/

Quote :

"Edwards Reports Raising More Than $14 Million in Early 2007 By MIKE BAKER Associated Press Writer Posted: Today at 5:40 p.m. Updated: 58 minutes ago RALEIGH, N.C. — Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards raised "in excess of $14 million" during the first quarter of this year"

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/04/01/sunday/index.html

Quote :

"Edwards campaign raises $14 million WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina has raised more than $14 million for his bid for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination, his campaign announced Sunday. Roughly $1 million of this total has been earmarked for the general election. Almost $3.3 million of the $14 million total was raised from the more than 37,000 contributions made over the Internet, Jonathan Prince, Edwards' deputy campaign manager, said. "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6516677.stm

Quote :

"Leading rivals Mrs Clinton's funds total will be measured against her leading Democratic rivals Senator Barack Obama and former senator John Edwards. "

Seems like BBC is only considering 3 people as true rivals for the white house.

4/1/2007 9:48:44 PM

as an uber-progressive liberal, i laugh at this thread

[Edited on April 1, 2007 at 10:33 PM. Reason : ok]

4/1/2007 10:32:54 PM

Quote :

"Seeing as cancer affects about 1 in 20 people or so"

it's way more than that

if he does become president, his wife will almost certainly die while he is in office

4/2/2007 2:29:55 AM

I really hope not.

That family has already been through quite a bit (Wades accident).

Elizabeth is a very nice woman, and I hope she beats this.

[Edited on April 2, 2007 at 10:37 AM. Reason : 2]

4/2/2007 10:35:41 AM

Quote :

"if he does become president, his wife will almost certainly die while he is in office"

IF that happens, he wont follow the lead of some top Republicans and divorce her.

4/2/2007 12:31:01 PM

4/2/2007 1:07:46 PM

Quote :

"Congratulations—we did it! Or, more accurately, you did it. As the clock ticked towards midnight on Saturday, we all watched with amazement as our online fundraising total surged towards our goal. $2.9 million... $2.95 million... $3 million! We had already hit a goal that just a week earlier had seemed unthinkable, but it just kept climbing. By the time the dust settled at midnight our online community had chipped in over $3.3 million dollars. Absolutely incredible. Elizabeth and I are humbled and deeply inspired by this outpouring of grassroots energy. We are more committed than ever to run a bold, visionary campaign worthy of your support. Overall, here's the story of our first quarter fundraising success by the numbers: Total raised: Over $14 million (nearly twice what we raised this quarter last time around) Total contributors: 40,000, representing every state of the union Grassroots victory: 80 percent of all contributions were $100 or less So that's what happened; you pulled through and we exceeded all our expectations, ensuring that this campaign will stay competitive in the crucial months to come. But here's what it means. It means that a campaign can dare to combine a vision for transformational change with the detailed plans necessary to achieve it. It means that you and I have the resources we need to keep building grassroots support for the big changes this country needs, like universal health care, an exit from Iraq, a stop to global warming, and a future where no American lives in poverty and the middle class is finally secure. And it means our campaign has the strength we need to go all the way, and the strength we need to win. Thank you, so much, for coming through when it matters most. Now let's roll up our sleeves and keep working for the country we love. Sincerely, John Edwards Monday, April 2, 2007 P.S. - I wrote to you last week about how strong fundraising would help get our message out in a wave of post-deadline media. Below are links to just a couple of the hundreds of articles that are already telling the nation the good news about your success: "Edwards campaign raises $14 million" CNN, April 1, 2007 http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/2007/04/edwards-campaign-raises-14-million_01.html "Edwards' campaign nears online fundraising mark of $3 million" Associated Press, March 31, 2007 http://www.wcnc.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D8O7BTO80.html "

4/2/2007 9:10:06 PM

congratulations on waisting your money.

[Edited on April 2, 2007 at 11:13 PM. Reason : .]

4/2/2007 11:12:38 PM

http://tinyurl.com/2pe5t5

In response to people who said this was a waste of money b/c he doesn't care enough about "us"

He mentions things like starting a college program for poor kids in NC. I think he cares about the college demographic/youth in NC more than anyone else running.

[Edited on April 3, 2007 at 10:52 AM. Reason : .]

4/3/2007 10:52:13 AM

there arent poor people on this site. havent you seen all the libertarians?

4/3/2007 11:59:44 PM

http://johnedwards.com/action/sign-petitions/nofunding/

Quote :

"Today, right now, you and I have the best chance in years to help end the war in Iraq but we must take immediate action. Here's the situation: Both houses of Congress have voted across party lines to bring our troops home with a plan to fully fund their redeployment and safe return. President Bush has vowed to veto this funding because it hampers his ability to wage endless war—he'd rather block funding for the troops than listen to the overwhelming majority of the American people who want the war to end. Yesterday, Bush called a special press conference and made his strategy crystal clear: veto funding for the troops and then blame Congress for the results. He's betting that Congress will buckle under the pressure and just drop their plan to end the war. We cannot let that happen. So today, I'm launching an emergency petition to Congress, urging them to stand firm on Iraq. We have to show every senator and representative that their constituents will not be fooled by Bush's ploy—Congress must not abandon the plan to end the war. We're aiming to gather at least 100,000 signatures before the showdown begins after Congress returns to Washington next week. Please add your name today: "

Signed.

4/4/2007 7:09:28 PM

^to late to edit, posted the wrong link i think

http://johnedwards.com/action/sign-petitions/standfirm/

4/4/2007 7:54:08 PM

what the hell is Edwards doing actually showing up in Congress?

4/4/2007 7:59:42 PM

http://www.wral.com/news/state/story/1264744/?d_full_comments=1&d_last_seen_id=88116

what an arrogant cunt, fuck John and his wife

I guess they're right, there really is two americas, they are a shining example of it


oh btw enviromentalists

this guy was on the radio today and said that they cleared and logged over 25 acres to build their mansion... over 100 log truck loads of wood.

hope he buys his carbon credits!!!

4/10/2007 11:00:30 PM

his campaign is carbon neutral. and no, he isnt paying al gore's company

4/10/2007 11:01:49 PM

oh ok, his "campaign" is

but he isn't


whatever

did you even read the article... "two americas" lol

4/10/2007 11:34:31 PM

For those of you who remember the, "I'M FROM NORTH CAROLINA AND I DON'T SUPPORT JESSE HELMS bumper stickers," I saw an "I'M FROM NORTH CAROLINA AND I DON'T SUPPORT JOHN EDWARDS," in Greenville yesterday. I chuckled.

4/10/2007 11:43:10 PM

it really aggravates me that they talk all this bullshit about two americas and helping the poor


then they do this, I hope this guy stays... and I hope he sues them



what was it that Rosie Odonnel said, "liars get cancer" or some shit

4/11/2007 10:16:07 AM

I wonder if this guy knows Rudy's stance on gun control

4/11/2007 10:53:16 AM

Quote :

"he once pulled a gun on workers investigating a right of way on his property."

Quote :

"Johnson didn't rebut Edwards' comments."

...

Quote :

""I'd just like to know why she has such hard feelings to me," he said. "They say they're for poor people.""

This guy is so poor, I really feel sorry for him

Quote :

"But Johnson and his wife, Vanessa, are getting out. They put their land on the market for $1.6 million -- before Edwards' remarks, Johnson said -- because the couple can't afford the property taxes and don't like all the growth around them."

4/11/2007 11:24:44 AM

How does putting property that your family has owned and lived on for decades that you now have to sale because you can no longer afford property taxes equate to wealth?

He may be wealthy if he can sell his home, but he isn't yet.

If you can't see the hypocrisy here, then that's sad.

Either way, Edwards is still better than anyone else so far.

4/11/2007 1:09:42 PM