that efficient house totally makes up for his environmental policy of the past six years

3/22/2007 1:17:15 PM

That comparison was between a 20 room, 8 bathroom mansion, and a 4 bedroom single story house.

I'm impressed with Bush's house, but that's an asinine comparison.

3/22/2007 1:21:34 PM

So Gore is incapable of living in a 4,000 sq. foot house?


Surely, he needs more room for that ass of his.

3/22/2007 2:24:42 PM

Quote :

"However, it is no surprise that Bush is an outdoorsman. He loves the outdoors and respects nature... something I don't see Gore ever doing."

Gore is an outdoorsman, too. He used to hunt and all that stuff.

3/22/2007 2:28:31 PM

you act like bush actually lives in this house most of the time. he's usually riding around in a big jet and living in the white house.

3/22/2007 2:28:58 PM

wrong thread

[Edited on March 22, 2007 at 2:30 PM. Reason : d]

3/22/2007 2:29:56 PM

Quote :

"So Gore is incapable of living in a 4,000 sq. foot house? Surely, he needs more room for that ass of his."

I don't know Gore's housing needs, and neither you do. Perhaps he uses all of those rooms he has?

I've still yet to see a comparison of actual energy usage (not what they derived from his total energy bill which is inflated by extra credits he pays for) per volume of living area.

3/22/2007 2:30:48 PM

Quote :

"Gore is an outdoorsman, too. He used to hunt and all that stuff."

YEAH GUYS, HE'S A REAL OUTDOORSMAN!

Where does he find time to hunt when he's out INVENTING THE INTERNET?

[Edited on March 22, 2007 at 2:51 PM. Reason : .]

3/22/2007 2:48:19 PM

He never said he invented the internet.

And he used to hunt in college with his roommate.

At least that's what his roommate said.

3/22/2007 2:55:30 PM

I used to ride unicorns with my roommate after inventing the internet too

3/22/2007 2:55:55 PM

Are you really arguing this shit with me?

3/22/2007 2:57:32 PM

yes, when you babble unsubstantiated bullshit, I will argue.

3/22/2007 2:58:07 PM

when did Al Gore say that he invented the internet?

im serious. ive always heard people say that, but ive never been able to find a quote where he did.


[Edited on March 22, 2007 at 3:01 PM. Reason : fg]

3/22/2007 2:59:00 PM

Quote :

"yes, when you babble unsubstantiated bullshit, I will argue."

At the Democratic National Convention, Tommy Lee Jones, Al Gore's college roommate, said that they used to enjoy hunting together.

And Gore never said he invented the internet.

It's not unsubstantiated bullshit.

Go fuck yourself, fuckface.

[Edited on March 22, 2007 at 3:02 PM. Reason : To be clear about where he said it...]

3/22/2007 3:00:47 PM

You said Al Gore was an outdoorsman. THat is unsubstantiated bullshit.

3/22/2007 3:03:27 PM

So if eco-friendly people are happy with "carbon offsets", will Peta be happy if I breed dogs so I can kill other ones? It's the same mentality. I don't see how this helps anything, it just shifts the responsibility to other people. Gore lives as carelessly as he likes (despite having the money to do something about it) and then expects the average American to drive a hybrid car and have solar powered house to make up for his hypocrisy.

3/22/2007 3:04:50 PM

^^People who hunt are considered outdoorsmen. Perhaps hunting alone isn't hardcore enough for you.

And could you elaborate on this whole Gore claiming to have invented the internet thing? I'm awful curious.

[Edited on March 22, 2007 at 3:07 PM. Reason : sss]

3/22/2007 3:07:00 PM

oh and:

Quote :

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet"

3/22/2007 3:07:09 PM

where again does it say he invented the internet? i dont see it.


[Edited on March 22, 2007 at 3:08 PM. Reason : f]

3/22/2007 3:07:42 PM

Quote :

"I took the initiative in creating the Internet"

Christ this isn't going to be one of those "it depends on what the definition of is is" situations is it?

Do they have a fucking textbook for you liberals for these situations?

[Edited on March 22, 2007 at 3:09 PM. Reason : .]

3/22/2007 3:08:27 PM

Quote :

"Go fuck yourself, fuckface."

oook....if you had any credibility left...its gone now

3/22/2007 3:09:54 PM

ok, ill give you that. but if its the same thing, why do people always say "invent" rather than "create"?

if they were the same word, why didnt you say create?

im honestly curious...im not trying to make this a political argument. i really dont like gore. its a little off topic, but i think this thread has been beating a dead horse for a while now.

[Edited on March 22, 2007 at 3:13 PM. Reason : d]

3/22/2007 3:11:27 PM

Quote :

"Christ this isn't going to be one of those "it depends on what the definition of is is" situations is it? Do they have a fucking textbook for you liberals for these situations?"

But it's fine when the pseudo-republican Trollista does the same fucking thing?

Go kill yourself.

3/22/2007 3:13:13 PM

because it's politics. You make an asinine comment like that trying to distinguish yourself from Bill Bradley, you have to be prepared to take the consequence.

Quote :

"in-vent: 1. to originate or create as a product of one's own ingenuity, experimentation, or contrivance: to invent the telegraph."

They're synonyms.

HEY BRIDGET, WHERE DID YOU GO?

[Edited on March 22, 2007 at 3:14 PM. Reason : .]

3/22/2007 3:13:20 PM

Creating and inventing are two different things.

When you invent something, you indeed create. But I can create a paper airplane all day long, that doesn't mean I invented it.

3/22/2007 3:14:40 PM

So there's two "internets" out there?

So he created an internet, but not the internet? I'm confused now.

There are certainly more than one paper airplane (per your example) but there is only one internet and therefore can't be "created" again.

Are you really defending this?

[Edited on March 22, 2007 at 3:16 PM. Reason : .]

3/22/2007 3:15:35 PM

Quote :

"They're synonyms."

then why does no one say "al gore created the internet?"

if you really though they meant the same thing, you would have said created, not invented. am i wrong here?

you NEVER hear "al gore created the internet".

[Edited on March 22, 2007 at 3:16 PM. Reason : d]

3/22/2007 3:15:42 PM

Quote :

"So there's two "internets" out there? So he created an internet, but not the internet? I'm confused now. Are you really defending this?"

You're showing a pretty huge fundamental lacking about what networking really is.

3/22/2007 3:17:55 PM

you show a pretty big lack of understanding the term INTERNET

THERE IS ONLY ONE MOTHERFUCKING INTERNET

THERE ARE MANY NETWORKS BUT AL GORE DID NOT CLAIM TO CREATE A NETWORK


HE USED A VERY SPECIFIC PROPER NOUN IN REFERENCE TO HIS CREATION.

3/22/2007 3:18:53 PM

i dont really care i guess....cause i dont think gore created the internet either.

i just think its funny that people have to make stuff up, or exagerate, in order to prove a point. it happens on both sides of the political spectrum.

if the actual statement had a big impact on people, whats the need for changing the words around? it really didnt i guess...which is why its turned into "invent". gotta love that spin!

plus look at how people just ate it up after the wording was changed. smart move...people just like to repeat what they hear.



[Edited on March 22, 2007 at 3:24 PM. Reason : d]

3/22/2007 3:20:04 PM

http://sethf.com/gore/

It's cute you took a single sentence out of context. Who is this, pwrstrk, wlfpk4life...?

Quote :

"But it will emerge from my dialogue with the American people. I've traveled to every part of this country during the last six years. During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system."

[Edited on March 22, 2007 at 3:24 PM. Reason : a]

3/22/2007 3:22:44 PM

are you disagreeing with the fact that the Internet is a proper noun? You cannot recreate a proper noun. It can only be created once. There is no "off brand" internet.

3/22/2007 3:24:44 PM

In 1973, Bob Kahn and Vin Cerf began research on Internet Protocol and the Transmission Control Protocol. Here's what they have to say about Gore's poorly worded assertion:

Quote :

"On September 28, 2000, Bob Kahn and Vint Cerf released a statement to key Internet mailing lists stating their unequivocal belief that Gore played an important role during his congressional years in supporting the Internet: I am taking the liberty of sending to you both a brief summary of Al Gore's Internet involvement, prepared by Bob Kahn and me. As you know, there have been a seemingly unending series of jokes chiding the vice president for his assertion that he "took the initiative in creating the Internet." Bob and I believe that the vice president deserves significant credit for his early recognition of the importance of what has become the Internet. I thought you might find this short summary of sufficient interest to share it with Politech and the IP lists, respectively. ============================================================== Al Gore and the Internet By Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf Al Gore was the first political leader to recognize the importance of the Internet and to promote and support its development. No one person or even small group of persons exclusively "invented" the Internet. It is the result of many years of ongoing collaboration among people in government and the university community. But as the two people who designed the basic architecture and the core protocols that make the Internet work, we would like to acknowledge VP Gore's contributions as a Congressman, Senator and as Vice President. No other elected official, to our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of time. Last year the Vice President made a straightforward statement on his role. He said: "During my service in the United States Congress I took the initiative in creating the Internet." We don't think, as some people have argued, that Gore intended to claim he "invented" the Internet. Moreover, there is no question in our minds that while serving as Senator, Gore's initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving Internet. The fact of the matter is that Gore was talking about and promoting the Internet long before most people were listening. We feel it is timely to offer our perspective. As far back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high speed telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship. Though easily forgotten, now, at the time this was an unproven and controversial concept. Our work on the Internet started in 1973 and was based on even earlier work that took place in the mid-late 1960s. But the Internet, as we know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was still in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural disasters and other crises. As a Senator in the 1980s Gore urged government agencies to consolidate what at the time were several dozen different and unconnected networks into an "Interagency Network." Working in a bi-partisan manner with officials in Ronald Reagan and George Bush's administrations, Gore secured the passage of the High Performance Computing and Communications Act in 1991. This "Gore Act" supported the National Research and Education Network (NREN) initiative that became one of the major vehicles for the spread of the Internet beyond the field of computer science. As Vice President Gore promoted building the Internet both up and out, as well as releasing the Internet from the control of the government agencies that spawned it. He served as the major administration proponent for continued investment in advanced computing and networking and private sector initiatives such as Net Day. He was and is a strong proponent of extending access to the network to schools and libraries. Today, approximately 95% of our nation's schools are on the Internet. Gore provided much-needed political support for the speedy privatization of the Internet when the time arrived for it to become a commercially-driven operation. There are many factors that have contributed to the Internet's rapid growth since the later 1980s, not the least of which has been political support for its privatization and continued support for research in advanced networking technology. No one in public life has been more intellectually engaged in helping to create the climate for a thriving Internet than the Vice President. Gore has been a clear champion of this effort, both in the councils of government and with the public at large. The Vice President deserves credit for his early recognition of high speed computing and communication and for his long-term and consistent articulation of the potential value of the Internet to American citizens and industry and, indeed, to the rest of the world."

http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue5_10/wiggins/

3/22/2007 3:26:18 PM

Quote :

"I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system."

How does that sentence make the "invent the internet" sentence anymore contextually accurate?

Environmental protection? The fucking internet does no such thing. As a matter of a fact, I bet the internet hurts the environment for having to power so many PCs (and using fossil fuels to do it).

You will not get away from the fact that Gore said that he created (i.e. invented) the INternet.

3/22/2007 3:26:20 PM

Quote :

"You will not get away from the fact that Gore said that he created (i.e. invented) the INternet. "

You fucking imbecile. This shit has been debunked top to bottom and I already posted a link for you to see that.

You might want to stop now before clowning yourself even more.

Seriously. Which right wing hack that used to post here are you? Or are you switching among aliases?

You're an idiot. You know that right?

3/22/2007 3:28:41 PM

you will not get away from the fact that your savior, your prophet, Al Gore is a fucking phony piece of hypocritical shit. You will not get away from the fact that, while trumpeting Global Warming, he sits back in his mansion and powers it to the tune of 20x the average American, while buying carbon offsets in a company that he has financial interest in.

You will not get away from the fact, no matter how hard you try, that Al Gore claimed to have created (i.e. invented) the Internet.

These are irresolvable facts that you cannot overcome.

And ^ you fucking posted a link which linked to other fucking LIBERAL COLUMNISTS AND LIBERAL SOURCES as proof of the "dubunkery." Try again. I quoted you, a very DIRECT MOTHERFUCKING QUOTE.

[Edited on March 22, 2007 at 3:30 PM. Reason : .]

3/22/2007 3:28:46 PM

Quote :

"You fucking imbecile. This shit has been debunked top to bottom and I already posted a link for you to see that. You might want to stop now before clowning yourself even more. Seriously. Which right wing hack that used to post here are you? Or are you switching among aliases? You're an idiot. You know that right? "

hahahahahaha.....

3/22/2007 3:29:46 PM

Quote :

"trikk311: oook....if you had any credibility left...its gone now"

Really, bitch?

I'm the only one who has posted anything worthwhile on the topic of Gore/Internet.

3/22/2007 3:32:43 PM

Quote :

" And ^ you fucking posted a link which linked to other fucking LIBERAL COLUMNISTS AND LIBERAL SOURCES as proof of the "dubunkery." Try again. I quoted you, a very DIRECT MOTHERFUCKING QUOTE."

Hahaha, you aren't even a very good troll. Bridget posted in comments from the IP/TCP INVENTORS you raging ass clown.

You lost. It's fine, it happens from time to time. You should stick to the environment thing, because you lost the Internet thing.

3/22/2007 3:33:11 PM

I QUOTED YOU, A MOTHERFUCKING DIRECT QUOTE.

You have to live with that. You can be in denial and claim I "lost" but again, I quoted you a DIRECT QUOTE.

3/22/2007 3:34:15 PM

Quote :

"Really, bitch?"

case in point

3/22/2007 3:34:28 PM

^I've got a filthy mouth. What's your point?

3/22/2007 3:35:19 PM

Quote :

"Gore and the Internet Gore didn’t say he “invented the internet;” his actual claim was somewhat more reserved. On March 11, 1999, Gore was interviewed by Wolf Blitzer of CNN, and Blitzer asked Gore why voters should favor him over Bill Bradley, his opponent in the Democratic primaries. Gore replied with a paragraph- long description of differences. As part of this reply, Gore said, “During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet.” Blitzer, a long-time Washington reporter, ignored this statement and did not return to it later in the interview. Republicans, however, jumped on it. The next day House Majority Leader Dick Armey of Texas replied, “If the vice president created the Internet, then I created the interstate highway system.” (Mittelstadt, March 12, 1999). Three days later, Republican Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott of Mississippi quipped that “During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the paper clip.” Lott also provided some early design sketches for the paper clip “including the straight-line and a V-shaped model” (Washington Post, March 14, 1999). Dan Quayle’s quip was, perhaps, the best: “If Gore invented the Internet, I invented spell-check” (Sandalow, March 16, 1999). How egregious was Gore’s initial claim to have taken “the initiative in creating the internet”? According to many observers, Gore did, in fact, play a seminal role in creating the internet. Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf developed one of the key innovations of the networked world: the TCP/IP protocol that allows data to be sent between computers with incompatible operating systems. Late in the election cycle, these two scientists wrote a memo that gave Gore substantial credit: “We would like to acknowledge VP Gore’s contributions as a congressman, senator and as vice president,” they said, “No other elected official, to our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of time.”(Thompson, October 15, 2000). Kahn noted that Gore raised public awareness of the potential of computer networks just by coining the term “information superhighway” in the late 1980s (Raasch, March 19, 1999). This term was Gore’s way of carrying on family tradition: his father had sponsored the legislation that funded the interstate highway system (Hughes, April 16, 1999). In 1986, then-Senator Gore introduced the Supercomputer Network Act, which called for networking the computers of universities and federal research labs. In 1988he introduced the High-Performance Computer Act that paved the way for universities, colleges, and libraries to gain widespread access to the Internet, which was still restricted to very few users. Although neither law passed in its initial form, a version of the High-Performance Computer Act became Entrapping schemas 10 law in 1991 (Chandler, October 17, 2000; Coopersmith, October 26, 2000). In advocating this bill, Gore envisioned a network that would “provide for teleconferencing, link your computer to millions of computers around the country, give you access to huge digital libraries of information and deliver service we cannot yet imagine” (Coopersmith, October 26, 2000). In 1990, Gore described the value of such a network to “the little girl in Tennessee who would be able to reach the Library of Congress and look up dinosaurs.” An employee of the Congressional Office of Technology Assessment said that at the time even academics in computer science might have rejected this vision (Hughes, April 16, 1999). Historically, government networks like Arpanet were legally prohibited from being used for any commercial purpose. In 1991 Gore’s High Performance Computer Act lifted that ban. The law funded a network backbone called NSFnet, which served as a higher-speed replacement for the old Defense Department Arpanet (Chandler, October 17, 2000). The law also provided for NSFnet to be gradually turned over to commercial use (Hughes, April 16, 1999). By opening the traditional government network, Gore’s legislation opened the way for the Internet’s explosive growth. Even Gore’s political opponents give him credit for the Internet. Newt Gingrich, the fiercely partisan speaker of the House of Representatives during Gore’s years in Congress, said. "Gore is the person who, in the Congress, most systematically worked to make sure that we got to an Internet."” (Gerstenzang, September 22, 2000). So, as long as Gore was referring to his role as a politician and not to his hands-on engineering skills, his claim that he “took the initiative in creating the internet” was defensible. However, this is not how Gore’s statement was presented to most audiences. Within two days, he was being misquoted as having said he “invented” the internet (Kamen, March 15, 1999), and, as we will show later, within three months the false attribution that he said he “invented” the internet was more prominent than his real statement. How much did Gore exaggerate? When people form opinions of Gore’s claim about the internet, the way he was quoted probably matters. In his original statement, by claiming that he “took the initiative in creating,” he hedged by claiming “initiative.” This hedged claim is likely to appear less grandiose than claiming to have either “created” or “invented” without the qualifier. However, the two solo verbs also probably differ. The word “invented” implies hands-on activity (invent: “to originate as a product of one’s own contrivance: to invent a machine” from Webster’s New Universal Dictio nary) whereas “create” is much more abstract (“to cause to come into being”) and because it is more general, may seem less grandiose. Establishing more precisely how naïve observers might view a politician who made these claims is difficult because people in the United States have already formed opinions on these issues: after the last election, U.S. residents have views of Gore and his character and are unlikely to be able to hear his words as they would have when they were first uttered. Thus, we tried to find speakers of English who could interpret the semantic differences between these claims without having pre-existing opinions about the political situation where the claims arose."

http://www.igs.berkeley.edu/research_programs/ppt/papers/Gore412.pdf

OH NOES

ITS FROM BERKLEY

THEY MUST BE POT SMOKING LEFTIES AND THAT MEANS YOU CANT EVEN READ THAT BECAUSE OF THE OBVIOUS SLANT

3/22/2007 3:38:18 PM

Quote :

"Gore and the Internet Gore didn’t say he “invented the internet;” his actual claim was somewhat more reserved. On March 11, 1999, Gore was interviewed by Wolf Blitzer of CNN, and Blitzer asked Gore why voters should favor him over Bill Bradley, his opponent in the Democratic primaries. Gore replied with a paragraph- long description of differences. As part of this reply, Gore said, “During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet.” Blitzer, a long-time Washington reporter, ignored this statement and did not return to it later in the interview. Republicans, however, jumped on it. The next day House Majority Leader Dick Armey of Texas replied, “If the vice president created the Internet, then I created the interstate highway system.” (Mittelstadt, March 12, 1999). Three days later, Republican Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott of Mississippi quipped that “During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the paper clip.” Lott also provided some early design sketches for the paper clip “including the straight-line and a V-shaped model” (Washington Post, March 14, 1999). Dan Quayle’s quip was, perhaps, the best: “If Gore invented the Internet, I invented spell-check” (Sandalow, March 16, 1999). How egregious was Gore’s initial claim to have taken “the initiative in creating the internet”? According to many observers, Gore did, in fact, play a seminal role in creating the internet. Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf developed one of the key innovations of the networked world: the TCP/IP protocol that allows data to be sent between computers with incompatible operating systems. Late in the election cycle, these two scientists wrote a memo that gave Gore substantial credit: “We would like to acknowledge VP Gore’s contributions as a congressman, senator and as vice president,” they said, “No other elected official, to our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of time.”(Thompson, October 15, 2000). Kahn noted that Gore raised public awareness of the potential of computer networks just by coining the term “information superhighway” in the late 1980s (Raasch, March 19, 1999). This term was Gore’s way of carrying on family tradition: his father had sponsored the legislation that funded the interstate highway system (Hughes, April 16, 1999). In 1986, then-Senator Gore introduced the Supercomputer Network Act, which called for networking the computers of universities and federal research labs. In 1988he introduced the High-Performance Computer Act that paved the way for universities, colleges, and libraries to gain widespread access to the Internet, which was still restricted to very few users. Although neither law passed in its initial form, a version of the High-Performance Computer Act became Entrapping schemas 10 law in 1991 (Chandler, October 17, 2000; Coopersmith, October 26, 2000). In advocating this bill, Gore envisioned a network that would “provide for teleconferencing, link your computer to millions of computers around the country, give you access to huge digital libraries of information and deliver service we cannot yet imagine” (Coopersmith, October 26, 2000). In 1990, Gore described the value of such a network to “the little girl in Tennessee who would be able to reach the Library of Congress and look up dinosaurs.” An employee of the Congressional Office of Technology Assessment said that at the time even academics in computer science might have rejected this vision (Hughes, April 16, 1999). Historically, government networks like Arpanet were legally prohibited from being used for any commercial purpose. In 1991 Gore’s High Performance Computer Act lifted that ban. The law funded a network backbone called NSFnet, which served as a higher-speed replacement for the old Defense Department Arpanet (Chandler, October 17, 2000). The law also provided for NSFnet to be gradually turned over to commercial use (Hughes, April 16, 1999). By opening the traditional government network, Gore’s legislation opened the way for the Internet’s explosive growth. Even Gore’s political opponents give him credit for the Internet. Newt Gingrich, the fiercely partisan speaker of the House of Representatives during Gore’s years in Congress, said. "Gore is the person who, in the Congress, most systematically worked to make sure that we got to an Internet."” (Gerstenzang, September 22, 2000). So, as long as Gore was referring to his role as a politician and not to his hands-on engineering skills, his claim that he “took the initiative in creating the internet” was defensible. However, this is not how Gore’s statement was presented to most audiences. Within two days, he was being misquoted as having said he “invented” the internet (Kamen, March 15, 1999), and, as we will show later, within three months the false attribution that he said he “invented” the internet was more prominent than his real statement. How much did Gore exaggerate? When people form opinions of Gore’s claim about the internet, the way he was quoted probably matters. In his original statement, by claiming that he “took the initiative in creating,” he hedged by claiming “initiative.” This hedged claim is likely to appear less grandiose than claiming to have either “created” or “invented” without the qualifier. However, the two solo verbs also probably differ. The word “invented” implies hands-on activity (invent: “to originate as a product of one’s own contrivance: to invent a machine” from Webster’s New Universal Dictio nary) whereas “create” is much more abstract (“to cause to come into being”) and because it is more general, may seem less grandiose. Establishing more precisely how naïve observers might view a politician who made these claims is difficult because people in the United States have already formed opinions on these issues: after the last election, U.S. residents have views of Gore and his character and are unlikely to be able to hear his words as they would have when they were first uttered. Thus, we tried to find speakers of English who could interpret the semantic differences between these claims without having pre-existing opinions about the political situation where the claims arose."

3/22/2007 3:39:10 PM

Quote :

"OH NOES ITS FROM BERKLEY THEY MUST BE POT SMOKING LEFTIES AND THAT MEANS YOU CANT EVEN READ THAT BECAUSE OF THE OBVIOUS SLANT"

you have to say this becuase you know that there is a slant...

and it still ain't no direct quote...thats fo'sho'

3/22/2007 3:40:24 PM

I <3 this thread.

3/22/2007 3:40:38 PM

Quote :

"Where does he find time to hunt when he's out INVENTING THE INTERNET?"

Invent != took initiative creating


You're the new hooksaw. Losing threads left and right.


I have no clue if you are commenting to me or someone else, but just in case, so that you don't waste your time

Quote :

"trikk311 All American 2464 Posts user info edit post unblock user "

[Edited on March 22, 2007 at 3:41 PM. Reason : a]

3/22/2007 3:40:46 PM

^^^ read bold.

[Edited on March 22, 2007 at 3:41 PM. Reason : .]

3/22/2007 3:41:08 PM

HAHAHAHAH DEMOCRATS WIN ALL DEFENSE...



IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT.... CENSOR!

He must not be too confident in his "winning" this thread if he has to block me... If you have to cover your ears and say "NANANANANANANANANANA..." it pretty much means you lost.

[Edited on March 22, 2007 at 3:42 PM. Reason : .]

3/22/2007 3:41:56 PM

HAHAH....DIRECT QUOTE!!!....

come on state409fag...al said it....you cant deny it


HAHA..."YOU GUYS SUCK AT SOAP BOX....GTFOUT!!!!....YOULOSEIWIN"

[Edited on March 22, 2007 at 3:43 PM. Reason : asdf]

3/22/2007 3:42:38 PM