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"Ya I know, I wish my team was 2nd in the NFC South"

that's really unimportant considering we face each other again...The division will likely come down to that mon night game, with the loser getting the wildcard.

11/24/2008 3:47:36 PM

i wish i cared enough about the bucs to make a thread dedicated to predicting them to miss the playoffs...but instead i'll just be a fan of my own team and only worry about the bucs the week we play them again

btw i've picked a couple hundred games this year and been right about 70% of the time...whoopty do, you picked a game right, lets get this guy a medal

[Edited on November 24, 2008 at 3:49 PM. Reason : .]

11/24/2008 3:48:34 PM

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"Dumb post again by you."

BILL MAAS

11/24/2008 5:12:35 PM

hahaha dammit I wish FOX would rehire that fuck

Maas, Kenny Albert and Buck Lanford for the best announcing team of all time

11/24/2008 5:56:16 PM

Brian Billick does just as good a job as Maas at calling Steve Smith "Steven"

11/24/2008 5:58:28 PM

gotta have Goose on the sidelines

he can bully up on Lanford, give him wedgies and noogies and shit

11/24/2008 6:01:27 PM

For all the shit we give the various FOX crews

the raycom crews are 10 times worse

touchdown tarheels !

11/24/2008 6:03:55 PM

Bill Rosinski was really off his game Saturday, he's usually better than that

11/24/2008 6:05:41 PM

Go North Carolina's Tate !

11/24/2008 6:06:00 PM

They were both Pammy nominees on Saturday

11/24/2008 6:08:22 PM

i think i prefer it to remain a broken image

11/24/2008 6:21:54 PM

90 posts by a guy who is hating on the Carolina Panthers. Hey man, how about we leave this thread alone until December 29th? Then we can go from there. This is such a waste of time.

11/24/2008 8:20:35 PM

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"i wish i cared enough about the bucs to make a thread dedicated to predicting them to miss the playoffs...but instead i'll just be a fan of my own team and only worry about the bucs the week we play them again btw i've picked a couple hundred games this year and been right about 70% of the time...whoopty do, you picked a game right, lets get this guy a medal "

haha who gives a fuck that you have picked 70% (i pick 80%), but that was never a discussion. I picked the ATL-Car game correct and you didnt and now you are being a little bitch about it because you know everything I have said will likely come true.

Lets move on and talk about the Packers game. Ya they lost tonight but I really dont think it was because they played poorly. I actually think the Saints played their best game of the season. Im actually glad the Packers lost. This means they will be that much more inspired to beat the Panthers this coming week (which is practically a 100% lock for me to happen). If Matty Ice and Harry Douglas tore you guys up, just imagine what Rodgers and Jennings are going to do. I do think the Panthers offense will find a little more success, but they wont be able to keep up with the Pack. Plus, Harris and Woodson wont have 2 horrible games in a row. This is the best cb tandem in the league and I expect them to show that this coming weekend.

11/24/2008 11:48:24 PM

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"90 posts by a guy who is hating on the Carolina Panthers. Hey man, how about we leave this thread alone until December 29th? Then we can go from there. This is such a waste of time."

How about you say something useful. The comment you just made on this thread was totally and utterly stupid because nobody is going to stop talking on this thread, especially those who care to truely unbiasly defend their team like a few people have done. You are a complete fool and you wasted a few seconds of your life.

11/24/2008 11:50:14 PM

Just to reiterate to new joiners, I am saying that the Panthers will lose @GB, TB, and @NYG. I thin there is a good possibility of them losing to Denver and I think they will beat the very much overrated Saints. In saying this, I believe they barely miss playoffs and I think the Skins, or Falcons get that last spot (with Dallas getting the 5th seed). If the Panthers win against Denver, they could possibly make it in that 6th seed because I see them being tied with Skins and Falcons, but I dont know how the tiebreak will work. BUT, the more I think about it the more I see Denver beating CAR.

[Edited on November 24, 2008 at 11:59 PM. Reason : i]

11/24/2008 11:58:56 PM

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"I do think the Panthers offense will find a little more success"

our offense was fine versus atlanta, it was the defense and special teams that was horrible

11/25/2008 12:07:22 AM

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"our offense was fine versus atlanta, it was the defense and special teams that was horrible"

Going into halftime with 3 points is not a good offensive outing. Ya sure, Delhomme had pretty good stats but he and the running game got SHUT DOWN for a whole half and after than it was too late (dont look now but they lost by how much??? 17) And dont get me started on that defense. I feel like I dont need to.

11/25/2008 12:31:14 AM

you dont need to start anything on the defense, i just put it on them...our OFFENSE cut the game to 3 points, our DEFENSE gave up 4 TDs to Turner

11/25/2008 12:42:27 AM

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"our OFFENSE cut the game to 3 points, our DEFENSE gave up 4 TDs to Turner"

Ok well then let me put it like this then, against GB, I believe they will be more consistent on offense.

11/25/2008 12:47:20 AM

i hope so...before the season when i went through every game i had them losing this game...i think they'll step their game up though...it will be close one way or another

11/25/2008 12:49:26 AM

If this was in Carolina I give it to Carolina. But theres something about near-playoff time in Lambeau. Packers always step their shit up and its just about that time for them to start making a run. I just dont see them losing there, unless it was a really really solid team, and I just dont think Panthers are that.

11/25/2008 12:55:45 AM

Packers with Brett Favre will always step there shit up. Not Aaron Rogers.

11/25/2008 1:01:18 AM

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"Packers with Brett Favre will always step there shit up. Not Aaron Rogers. "

NO, Packers as a team, especially their run game and run D.

11/25/2008 1:14:49 AM

This will be Aaron Rodgers first time as a starter "about near-playoff time in Lambeau", he hasn't always done anything, because he's never been there

11/25/2008 1:18:34 AM

i finally figured out our problem

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" NAME REC YDS AVG LNG TD FUM LST Steve Smith 48 853 17.8 65 4 1 1 Muhsin Muhammad 45 601 13.4 47 4 1 0 Dante Rosario 18 209 11.6 24 1 0 0 Jeff King 18 160 8.9 31 1 0 0 D.J. Hackett 11 144 13.1 37 0 1 1 DeAngelo Williams 15 98 6.5 25 2 0 0 Dwayne Jarrett 8 93 11.6 25 0 0 0"

after looking at these and other good team's stats, we have by far the fewest # of catches by supporting recievers, not the top 2, of any of the top teams

since steve smith came back we totally forgot about the other guys, jarren, rosario, etc
our best game was against san diego when we moved the ball around, almost everyone had several catches and kept the other team off balance

please someone call the panthers talk show and share this with john fox on my behalf,
if not for me, do it for the panthers

11/25/2008 1:53:26 AM

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"i finally figured out our problem"

Honestly, I think you could be dead on point. I've always thought the Panthers could possibly be better without Smith. Smith has turned into a diva in this league who is pompous. Jake may feel pressured to get him the ball. You won your 1st 2 games of the season (your most impressive wins of the season to me) without him, then he comes back week 3 and you lose to the Vikings in Frerottes 1st game as the starter. I think you could be on to something there, seriously.

11/25/2008 3:07:13 AM

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"This will be Aaron Rodgers first time as a starter "about near-playoff time in Lambeau", he hasn't always done anything, because he's never been there "

Ok...ONCE AGAIN....its not like one player starts playing better for GB come near-playoff time. Its like the whole team steps up and I think it had something to do with the history there and the fan-base and the cold. I dont know what it is but it does happen.

11/25/2008 3:09:31 AM

wtf do past packer teams have to do with this one?

11/25/2008 3:12:30 AM

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"I just dont see them losing there"

give me a quarter i'll read your palm....
fortunes for quarters I LOOOOVE quarters.

11/25/2008 9:26:05 AM

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"our best game was against san diego "

we pulled that game out of our ass on a last second miracle catch in the end zone...how can you say that game was better than our first effort versus atlanta, or the kansas city game or the first game versus new orleans??

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"I've always thought the Panthers could possibly be better without Smith"

ahhhhhaha what a fucking idiot

THE LAKERS WOULD BE BETTER WITHOUT KOBE

11/25/2008 9:28:17 AM

^I can see why someone would say that. The team doesn't not get as much outta Steve Smith as they possibly could. I do agree though, we'd be worse without him.

11/25/2008 9:30:44 AM

just because when a great player like Smith isnt playing, other guys have to step up and fill the void and make plays, it doesnt mean a team will be better if you get rid of their best player...but he's just trolling anyway

11/25/2008 9:32:51 AM

I'm 50-50 on this Sunday for the Panthers, but I do think we'll still be in first regardless....The Saints are going to go into TB and steal a win.

11/25/2008 10:20:22 AM

the panthers are still on pace to go 3-1 in each quarter of the season, granted that last quarter will be a bitch. but until thats broken up theres no reason to talk to this guy

11/25/2008 11:58:36 AM

I'm not saying that Panthers would be better without him either but Im definitely leaving the possibility open that they could be. Jake Delhomme is a shaky qb, can we all agree on that? If he is a guy who feels pressured at all to get Smith the ball (like against Seattle in the NFC Champ game 3 years back), he plays worse. I have always thought of Jake to be a solid qb that gets way too much shit from Panthers "fans" and could def see how Steve Smith could bring Jake down a little bit. Look in b-ball, Gilbert Arenas, hes the best player for the Wizards talent wise, but their record is way better without him. Teams in team sports need chemistry first and foremost. If a player doesnt mesh well then it all goes to hell. And Im not saying Smith doesnt mesh, but Id leave the possibility open that Panthers would be better without him.

11/25/2008 1:05:14 PM

Detriot was more of a challenge than you thought? huh?^

11/25/2008 1:10:09 PM

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"wtf do past packer teams have to do with this one?"

If it was any other team, I'd say nothing. I actually went back and looked at every Packer season since 1991. In every season but 3, the Packers have come on incredibly strong at the end of the season winning 4-5, or 5-6, or 4-4. GO look for yourself if you dont believe me. And 2 of the seasons that they didnt come on strong at the end of the season were horrible seasons and they were not in contention anyways. THis year they are and I expect to see the Green Bay Packers start to roll starting this weekend against no one else, but the Panthers. Hope Carolina brings their heaters.

11/25/2008 1:11:13 PM

^

11/25/2008 1:18:16 PM

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"If he is a guy who feels pressured at all to get Smith the ball (like against Seattle in the NFC Champ game 3 years back), he plays worse. I have always thought of Jake to be a solid qb that gets way too much shit from Panthers "fans" and could def see how Steve Smith could bring Jake down a little bit. Look in b-ball, Gilbert Arenas, hes the best player for the Wizards talent wise, but their record is way better without him. "

He felt pressure b/c if he didn't get the ball to him that year, we lost....who else did we have?

not much of an NBA fan, but I did hear the wizards were something like 1-10.....and guess who hasn't played the whole season.

If anything smitty is jake's security blanket....he can (and does alot of times) make a terrible throw in smitty's direction and he'll make Jake look good 75% of the time.

11/25/2008 1:24:32 PM

Its crazy how close the Packers and Panthers matchup is on paper. GBs point per game:5th, Car Pts allowed: 7th. GB pass yds:12th, Car pass allowed:9th. GB run yds: 20th, Car run yds allowed: 17th. Car pts per game: 20th, GB pts allowed: 22nd. Car run yds: 6th, GB run allowed: 26th. BUT Car pass yds: 22nd, GB pass yds allowed: 6th.

Too bad its in GB

11/25/2008 1:26:19 PM

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"the Packers have come on incredibly strong at the end of the season winning 4-5, or 5-6, or 4-4."

4-5 = incredibly strong?

11/25/2008 1:26:28 PM

i think he meant 4 of 5 ect...

11/25/2008 1:27:19 PM

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"since 1991. In every season but 3, the Packers have come on incredibly strong at the end of the season winning 4-5, or 5-6, or 4-4."

funny how all 3 of the seasons where they didnt finish 4/5 or 5/6 or 4/4 are in the last 4 years

but please, talk about the mid 90s teams since the players and coaches are all different and therefore their past performance, under a different QB, head coach, off coord, def coord, etc are all different

11/25/2008 1:38:39 PM

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"funny how all 3 of the seasons where they didnt finish 4/5 or 5/6 or 4/4 are in the last 4 years"

Im not sure you could be more wrong here if you tried. '07- won 3 of 4, '06- won 4 of 4, '04- won 3 of 4, '03- WON 6 OF 7. WOW dude. Gets your facts straight before posting, I do. And actually, your comment about the 90's teams were totally different players is a great point...in my favor. Shows it doesnt matter who is playing for the PAck, they always step their shit up in late November and December.

KEEP GETTIN SHOT DOWN!!!

[Edited on November 25, 2008 at 1:51 PM. Reason : 04]

[Edited on November 25, 2008 at 1:52 PM. Reason : A]

11/25/2008 1:50:13 PM

Hey Tree, everything in the 90s was better

11/25/2008 1:51:28 PM

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"won 3 of 4, '06- won 4 of 4, '04- won 3 of 4, '03- WON 6 OF 7. "

too bad you never said 3 of 4, or as you would say "3-4"

you said "4-5, or 5-6, or 4-4."...you were trying to inflate green bay's season finishes to better than they actually were...when i responded to your claims, you decided to change the entire criteria

you didnt say jack shit about winning 3 of their last 4...you said 4 of their last 5, 5 of their last 6, and their last 4...dont tell me to get my facts straight when the packers didnt go 4/5 or 5/6 like you claimed

11/25/2008 2:17:38 PM

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"you didnt say jack shit about winning 3 of their last 4...you said 4 of their last 5, 5 of their last 6, and their last 4...dont tell me to get my facts straight when the packers didnt go 4/5 or 5/6 like you claimed "

HAHA. Mad you got proven wrong again. Obviously we are talking about the end of the season. 4-5 is 4 out of 5. Sorry I guess I shoudl have been a little clearer.

11/25/2008 2:21:58 PM

i dont give a shit if you want to say 4-5 means 4/5

i'm talking about your claim that they went 4/5, 5/6 and 4/4

i looked through their schedules just like you said because i didnt think they finished as hot as 5 out of 6 all the time like you claimd, and i saw multiple years where they finished 3/4 (actually 3/5) which you never mentioned until i called you out on it

dont get mad at me because you overinflated their late season numbers and i addressed the numbers you actually gave

if you had said they often finish 3/4 thats fine, but you didnt say that...you tried to make them sound better than that...i checked their schedule, called you out, and you're too retarded to even understand what i'm calling you out about

11/25/2008 2:24:18 PM

you mean 3-2 right?

11/25/2008 2:32:33 PM

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"if you had said they often finish 3/4 thats fine, but you didnt say that"

Ya my point was that they finish strong every year and I was dead on accurate and I proved it with statistics. Ok so they never finished exactly 5 out of 6. BUT they did finish 4 out of 4 and 3 out of 4 in several occasions. This shows me that you were 1) mad about being proven wrong. 2) now trying to pick at very small and useless details to try to regain some credibility that you have lost since coming up against me about anything NFL-related.

11/25/2008 2:35:47 PM