screentest All American 1955 Posts user info edit post |
I watched the monologue and the "comedy" bit and it was lame. Which was predictable, considering that Leno is lame.
I gotta say, though, the people who suck Conan's cock are just as lame.
Who cares who's hosting a generic talk show at 11:30 on NBC? 3/2/2010 5:21:15 PM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I gotta say, though, the people who suck Conan's cock are just as lame.
Who cares who's hosting a generic talk show at 11:30 on NBC?" |
that's kind of how i feel too which is why I tend to support leno just cause he can do stand up too and the obrien fans seem to act like conan is some type of genius of comedy3/2/2010 5:51:44 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Go watch Marge vs. the Monorail and tell me Conan's not a genius.
Or Lookwell.
Or this: ] 3/2/2010 5:57:23 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
^^wait are you saying that leno can do standup? 3/2/2010 6:00:32 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
^^
troof. 3/2/2010 6:02:26 PM |
wilso All American 14657 Posts user info edit post |
leno used to be good at stand-up. now he's a hack, which is sad. 3/2/2010 6:02:40 PM |
screentest All American 1955 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Go watch Marge vs. the Monorail and tell me Conan's not a genius." |
So, he was the primary writer of a very funny episode of a very funny TV Show, what's that got to do with sucking his cock?3/2/2010 7:15:11 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe genius is going a bit far, but to prefer Leno to Conan because he can do schlocky standup ignores Conan's writing ability. 3/2/2010 7:20:50 PM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
my name is jay leno. i am dead. i have a big chin and red eyes. repost this message in 7 threads or i will appear by your bedside at midnight and ask u questions about presidents. when u get them wrong ill put u on jaywalking. if u guess them right u will get a phone call from ur crush. 3/2/2010 8:23:24 PM |
screentest All American 1955 Posts user info edit post |
^^I agree that Conan is a more talented guy. I just have personal objections with a lot of things pertaining to fandom. I take issue with emphasis being placed on the artist more so than on the art they create. It seems, to my presumptuous self, that frequently appreciation balloons almost to idolatry, and I reject worship of any kind. Even of a small order. 3/2/2010 8:37:56 PM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^^^yea but see any writer or producer for his show could have come up with that, and anything really funny on a late night show is going to be gimmicky anyway
I'm not saying leno has a better show, I hardly watch late night daily anyway and when I do it's mostly based on the guest 3/2/2010 8:39:18 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
http://twitpic.com/1695g1 3/3/2010 5:26:31 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
^^ So you completely ignored the stuff about writing one of my favorite Simpsons episodes and one of my favorite TV pilots. Great. 3/3/2010 5:42:34 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Conan's Harvard Commencement Speech is a classic as well: http://www.allowe.com/Humor/book/COBspeech2k.htm
It's not "stand up" in the classic sense, but it's still one man in front of a large audience telling jokes.
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AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
lol at what conan looks like with a beard
?:^(0) 3/3/2010 7:35:06 PM |
ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18947 Posts user info edit post |
ahahaha I never saw this year 2000 bit. Hilarious.
3/4/2010 8:45:05 PM |
Mordecai Veteran 209 Posts user info edit post |
these skits and the one where he would drive his desk to different places were what got me into conan way back when i was in high school. I was always curious if he would still say we are going to look into the future even though it was already the year 2000. He did and i still find that some of the funniest shit to this day for some reason. 3/5/2010 8:44:25 PM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.hulu.com/the-tonight-show-with-jay-leno click tags 3/6/2010 1:39:36 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
LOL 3/6/2010 9:25:17 AM |
elkaybie All American 39626 Posts user info edit post |
LOL at one of the tags on page 8
"terrorism"
HAHA 3/6/2010 9:43:50 AM |
ViolentMAW All American 4127 Posts user info edit post |
suicide inducer and unprotected sex haha this is the best thing i've seen in a while
taught me a new word squaids = squirrel aids
[Edited on March 6, 2010 at 3:59 PM. Reason : .] 3/6/2010 3:56:59 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
Leno out, Fallon in, starting next summer
and the fuckers are moving the Tonight Show back to NYC
wish they would have done that for Conan 3/20/2013 4:42:25 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
GNSP
3/20/2013 5:32:15 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
I pretty much can't stand fallon. 3/20/2013 5:37:00 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Fallon's interviews are dreadful, but I understand the appeal of him playing games with guests. It's next to impossible to hate him, but I rarely watch his show.
On the other hand, I watch Ferguson almost every night, because his interviews are outstanding. 3/20/2013 10:25:47 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
Fallon has gotten way better since his start, but he's still the anti-Letterman
and I've given Ferguson plenty of chances, but I just can't get into it
plenty of people whose opinion I trust (including ^) dig him, and I just can't 3/21/2013 12:27:09 AM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
Ferguson is underrated, but his comedy is completely different so its a love or hate persona. Fallon would still be considered too immature and I rarely laugh at his jokes, as though he tries way to hard to please people. I like Leno and Coco, I think both of them should just say fuck it and do a show together on HBO or something. 3/21/2013 2:28:54 AM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I like Leno and Coco, I think both of them should just say fuck it and do a show together on HBO or something." |
yeaaaaa that's never going to happen3/21/2013 8:51:49 AM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
what are the ratings like now that Kimmel is in the same time slot? 3/21/2013 9:05:22 AM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "yeaaaaa that's never going to happen" |
Well no shit Sherlock... Someone people don't get sarcasm...
Anyhow, Today's news suggests that FOX might pick up Leno for the 11pm time slot after his contract ends.
... Leno should be a host of the US version of Top Gear. I would start to watch that.
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ENDContra All American 5160 Posts user info edit post |
^Doubt it, NBC is trying to go with a younger host to match Kimmel, and FOX hires someone in his 60s? Not gonna happen. CBS might start working with Letterman on his retirement to get someone younger themselves; Id almost hate to see Ferguson get that spot though, as he may have to tone down his show a bit (as well as appeal to a more mainstream audience). 3/24/2013 9:41:49 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
well fox doesn't have a late night comedy show like the other networks so it still could be a possibility, still a bit far-fetched, but even with Leno being in his 60's, he's still a great comedian that still connect with all ages. He may not throw as many immature jokes as the younger comedians, but I would still watch him even if he wasn't on any major network; just like with Coco.
And shit, John Stewart is 50 and he's very popular with the young crowd. 3/25/2013 4:29:31 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
If someone likes Leno, that's fine. I think he's garbage, but there's no accounting for taste.
I will say I find it very strange that the same person could enjoy Leno and Conan, though. Complete opposites when it comes to the comedy spectrum.
More power to ya, JBaz.
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thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
FUCK LENO 2/7/2014 12:27:55 AM |
HaLo All American 14263 Posts user info edit post |
Bring on Fallon! 2/7/2014 12:42:16 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "even with Leno being in his 60's, he's still a [shitty] comedian that still [steals jokes]" |
http://gawker.com/a-brief-history-of-jay-lenos-joke-stealing-1517500005]
[Edited on February 7, 2014 at 9:56 AM. Reason : ^,^^]2/7/2014 9:54:34 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
you could argue his writers steal jokes and he just tells them 2/7/2014 10:18:28 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
you could....
but his history is so long and storied on the subject he's complicit but not taking care of the issue when it first appeared
also he writes many of his own jokes: http://insidetv.ew.com/2008/01/04/wga-dings-leno/
also i'm pretty sure some of the stolen bits were used in his stand-up 2/7/2014 11:06:41 AM |
carzak All American 1657 Posts user info edit post |
"Gotta pay the insurance on all those cars!"
-Billy Crystal
I could not care less that he's gone. I watched his show for the guest interviews, which he was nothing special at. His musical guests were usually country or shitty adult contemporary. 2/7/2014 1:48:32 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah granted I only see the last 15 seconds of Leno when I play episodes of Fallon, but the music guests always sound turrrrible. 2/7/2014 1:51:48 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Not only is he not special at conducting interviews, he's literally the worst of the late night hosts. I've never seen him coax anything interesting out of a guest. Ever.
Letterman is either fully engaged/inspired or so apathetic that it becomes fun to watch. Fallon is terrible at interviews, so now he plays games with his guests, which is a nice change of pace. Craig Ferguson is absolutely brilliant at talking to celebrities like normal people. 2/7/2014 2:17:38 PM |
tommy wiseau All American 2624 Posts user info edit post |
I personally think Fallon is only marginally better than Leno. neither one is funny. 2/7/2014 3:07:28 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Fallon 'has' the best band in late night 2/7/2014 3:29:33 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Letterman is either fully engaged/inspired or so apathetic that it becomes fun to watch." |
Letterman can be an asshole, and can be good at coaxing shit out of people, or at the very least getting a reaction. That alone makes him better than Leno in my eyes.
Quote : | "Fallon is terrible at interviews, so now he plays games with his guests, which is a nice change of pace." |
Agreed, but most of his bits are funny, the games are fun, and The Roots are incredible. I like how Jimmy puts his musical talents to work, and his sketch experience from SNL makes the show better too. All that said, even when I turn them on, I don't watch too many of his episodes from front to back, at least not paying full attention. It's something nice to have on in the background for me.]2/7/2014 5:47:37 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Fallon 'has' the best band in late night" |
you don't need a band when you have geoff peterson and secretariat.2/9/2014 12:21:31 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Ferguson has a band: Alfredo Sauce and the Shy Guys! 2/9/2014 1:39:39 PM |
Kickstand All American 11596 Posts user info edit post |
Good riddance! Jay thought he was the shit after asking Hugh Grant, "What were you thinking?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrJ2jc6qfzA 2/9/2014 3:04:11 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
Craig Ferguson is hands down the most original and funny in late night right now.
Does he still do the puppets? I haven't been able to watch in forever. 2/9/2014 9:29:00 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
It's been a long time, at least a year, since he used the puppets with any regularity. There was a period late last year when he was using a Drew Carey puppet a lot, and briefly a Morgan Freeman puppet, but the only time Sid has been on in a long time was a gag at the desk, and no Wavy in forever. 2/10/2014 3:36:39 AM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
I guess I'm out of the loop. I just noticed that two Les Savy Fav members are going to be in the house band (along with Fred Armisen of course). I love LSF but that seems kind of random.
What's the connection between Fred and those guys? I know he played drums on a few songs off of one of their albums that I own. 2/17/2014 1:12:11 PM |