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GREEN JAY
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Oh look, San Fran cops shot somebody that was handcuffed, AGAIN!!


http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/12625016-san-fran-cops-kill-handcuffed-protester-as-witnesses-see-female-officer-shooting-man-in-back?utm_campaign=Outbrain&utm_source=Outbrain2Cents

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"Police officers with the SFPD allegedly opened fire on a man armed with a knife at around 10:30 a.m. local time on Wednesday after responding to reports that someone had been stabbed near the city’s Pier 17. Officers with the San Francisco Police Department in Northern California shot a man believed to have a knife this morning, but preliminary reports suggest that the victim was in handcuffs while the authorities opened fire.

Police officers with the SFPD allegedly opened fire on a man armed with a knife at around 10:30 a.m. local time on Wednesday after responding to reports that someone had been stabbed near the city’s Pier 17.

The Bay City News Service reported minutes later that there was an “officer-involved” shooting but did provide any other details. The San Francisco Chronicle reported at 11:30 a.m. local time that the man was shot by police after he refused to drop a knife that they believe was used in a stabbing earlier that morning. Fire Department Capt. Jeanne Seyler confirms to the paper that the victim was being transported for life threatening wounds, but did not provide any more details.

A video uploaded to YouTube less than 30 minutes after that report includes a testimony from an eyewitness who alleges that the police shot the suspect after placing him in handcuffs.

“So what happened here?” the cameraman asks an unidentified witness.

“The police shot somebody. In the chest, twice,” he responds. “They said that the man had a gun or something but he didn’t. He was just a civilian.”

“What was he doing?” the videographer asks.

“Nothing. They had him in cuffs. And they shot him. Twice.”

“They shot him in cuffs?” he asks in bewilderment.

The cameraman that runs over to talk to police officers on the scene for confirmation that the man was cuffed before being shot but the cops refuse to answer.

At 12 noon local time, the cameraman uploaded a second video to YouTube with different witnesses confirming the account.

In the second video, a new witness says “a female officer with fucking short blonde hair” opened fire on the suspect.

“While he was in handcuffs?” the cameraman asks.

“Yes.” He confirms.

“And you witnessed this?”

“I saw this.”

The witness alleges that the officer in question shot the man twice in the chest. A third witness caught on film confirms reports that the victim was handcuffed during the shooting. "



It's now been officially declared that he wasn't in cuffs. what a mess.

[Edited on July 19, 2012 at 3:49 PM. Reason : ]

7/19/2012 3:47:34 PM

wlb420
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nothin to see here folks...move along

7/19/2012 5:10:36 PM

Kurtis636
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Who should we believe here the police who have every reason to lie and cover their own asses or the multiple witnesses with no reason to make shit up?

7/19/2012 5:40:21 PM

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Nevermind.

[Edited on July 19, 2012 at 6:37 PM. Reason : ...]

7/19/2012 6:36:16 PM

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[Edited on July 19, 2012 at 11:54 PM. Reason : .]

7/19/2012 11:52:20 PM

GREEN JAY
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I'm disappointed that Restricted redacted his comment. I meant to post this in the "ask a police" thread as well to solicit a comment.

7/20/2012 11:48:43 AM

Restricted
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I feel like I should be more a guide to threads related to law enforcement - correct misconceptions about law or procedure w/out injecting my opinion. This was one of those situations, though it applied to the story you posted, it would have just created the usually TSB shenanigans.

7/20/2012 8:35:02 PM

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It's legal: cops seize cell phone, impersonate owner

Court says sending texts using a seized iPhone doesn't violate privacy rights.


In November 2009, police officers in the state of Washington seized an iPhone belonging to suspected drug dealer Daniel Lee. While the phone was in police custody, a man named Shawn Hinton sent a text message to the device, reading, "Hey whats up dogg can you call me i need to talk to you." Suspecting that Hinton was looking to buy drugs from Lee, Detective Kevin Sawyer replied to the message, posing as Lee. With a series of text messages, he arranged to meet Hinton in the parking lot of a local grocery store—where Hinton was arrested and charged with attempted possession of heroin.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/07/its-legal-cops-seize-cell-phone-impersonate-owner/

7/22/2012 2:04:04 PM

Kurtis636
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Anaheim police shoot unarmed man in head, let him bleed to death. Later that day they open fire on a group of protesters including women and children with rubber bullets and unleash a police dog, which proceeds to attack a woman holding a baby and a bystander not involved with the protest.

Well played, Anaheim PD, well played.

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2012/07/manuel_diaz_anaheim_police.php

http://www.theagitator.com/2012/07/23/compare-the-headlines/

7/23/2012 12:40:30 PM

wlb420
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"we will conduct an ubiased internal review of this incident, meanwhile the officers involved will be on paid vaca...er...leave."

7/23/2012 1:36:28 PM

eyewall41
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqzoKY1CyAg

Anaheim incident

7/24/2012 9:16:56 AM

wdprice3
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Holy shit. How horrible. Every single one of those cops should be in jail. But we all know their actions will be found as justified.

BAN GUNS! ONLY THE POLICE CAN BE TRUSTED TO USE GUNS!

7/24/2012 10:55:07 AM

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@2:30 in the video: (whining) "They just started firing on us, we didn't have any guns"


Wow, did you ya just figure out they can do that??

Here's your sign:

7/24/2012 11:21:28 AM

Kurtis636
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http://reason.com/blog/2012/07/24/mayor-bloomberg-says-cops-should-go-on-s

I for one would welcome local law enforcement hanging it up for a few weeks, as long as we didn't have to pay them.

7/25/2012 9:34:48 AM

Kurtis636
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http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/07/dc-police-chief-announces-shockingly-reasonable-cell-camera-policy/

I would love to say she gets it, but...

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"Update: The order was part of a settlement with Jerome Vorus, who sued the city after he was told to stop taking pictures of a traffic stop in Georgetown two years ago. The lawsuit was filed with the help of the American Civil Liberties Union."


It's one small step in the right direction.

7/25/2012 11:57:03 AM

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'What?' Confused 911 caller outs NYPD spying in NJ

http://www.wral.com/news/story/11352647/

7/25/2012 12:13:03 PM

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7/25/2012 2:06:14 PM

Kurtis636
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Your daily roundup of horrendous police misconduct, courtesy of The Agitator...

http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/07/26/48729.htm - Pulling a paraplegic out of his chair and pepperspraying him for video taping a traffic stop.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/25/caleche-ranae-ramos-naked-lawsuit-la-sheriff_n_1702780.html - Oooops, wrong apartment.

http://reason.com/blog/2012/07/25/20-years-of-on-duty-sex-plus-overtime - This retirement package is in the best interest of the taxpayers.

7/28/2012 9:16:51 AM

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This is disturbing:


Amtrak Police Confronts JNReport for filming TSA at Chicago's Union Station

http://youtu.be/Wxkk0YpOU1U

7/28/2012 6:07:55 PM

Kurtis636
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http://www.theagitator.com/2012/07/29/scenes-from-militarized-america-4/

More from Anaheim

7/29/2012 10:30:02 PM

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photos from anaheim




http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.368474329892327.82947.200910253315403&type=3

[Edited on July 30, 2012 at 4:52 PM. Reason : .]

7/30/2012 4:51:47 PM

Kurtis636
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http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Owner-wants-DEA-to-pay-for-truck-damage-from-sting-3743683.php

OK, even the most pro-police folks have got to be aghast at this one.

7/30/2012 5:20:38 PM

ALkatraz
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http://youtu.be/KrSIBHZLSpg

8/1/2012 8:25:29 AM

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8/8/2012 4:42:16 AM

Dentaldamn
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Those things are everywhere in new york. Seems like an over reaction to me.

8/8/2012 7:50:03 AM

Bullet
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T.A. McLendon better be careful

8/8/2012 9:15:52 AM

eyewall41
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bKOz4QX5PY

8/9/2012 1:06:07 AM

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TERMINATED: MoxNews' Main Account suspended, Again!
Submitted by AnCapMercenary on Thu, 08/09/2012 - 15:01

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"MOXNEWSd0tC0M has been terminated because we received multiple third-party claims of copyright infringement regarding material the user posted."




To confirm, just click on Mike's (aka Moxy) YouTube pageS:

http://www.youtube.com/user/MOXNEWSd0tC0M
http://www.youtube.com/user/MoxNewsDotCom

Change your bookbmarks, here's his newest, most current one:

http://www.youtube.com/user/wwwMOXNEWScom

The main statist douchebag responsible for the honesty 'purge,' an apparatchik at KIRO 'news': Jake Milstein

Watch Mox speaking on it:

MOX News Account Suspended

Published on Aug 8, 2012 by wwwMOXNEWScom

NEW MOX NEWS PAGE!!!
http://www.youtube.com/user/wwwMOXNEWScom

Jake Milstein twitter account
http://twitter.com/jakemilstein

Jake Milstein FACEBOOK
http://www.facebook.com/jake.milstein

Jake Milstein Email
jmilsteinkiro@gmail.com

Jake Milstein google-plus
https://plus.google.com/112053522287453181633/posts

KIRO 7 News FACEBOOK
http://www.facebook.com/KIRO7Seattle

KIRO & News Contact Page
http://www.kirotv.com/contact-kiro7/

August 08, 2012 MOX News
http://MOXNews.com

8/9/2012 10:46:04 PM

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US Attorneys Refuse to Assure Judge That They Are Not Already Detaining Citizens Under NDAA



The US government seems determined to have the power to do away with due process and Americans’ right to a trial.

I am one of the lead plaintiffs in the civil lawsuit against the National Defense Authorization Act, which gives the President the power to hold any US citizen anywhere for as long as he wants, without charge or trial. In May, following a March hearing, Judge Katherine Forrest issued an injunction against it; this week, in a final hearing in New York City, US government lawyers essentially asserted even more extreme powers – the power to entirely disregard the Judge and the law. Indeed, on Monday, August 6, Obama’s lawyers filed an appeal to the injunction – a profoundly important development that as of this writing has been scarcely reported.

In the March hearing, the US lawyers had confirmed that yes, the NDAA does give the President the power to lock up people like journalist Chris Hedges and peaceful activists like myself and other plaintiffs. Government attorneys have stated on record that even war correspondents could be locked up indefinitely under the NDAA. Judge Katherine Forrest had ruled for a temporary injunction against an unconstitutional provision in this law – after government attorneys refused to provide assurances to the court that plaintiffs and others would not be indefinitely detained for engaging in first amendment activities. Twice the government has refused to define what it means to be an “associated force”, and it claimed the right to refrain from offering any clear definition of this term, or clear boundaries of power under this law. This past week’s hearing was even more terrifying: incredibly, in this hearing, Obama’s attorneys refused to assure the court, when questioned, that the NDAA’s provision – one that permits reporters and others who have not committed crimes to be detained without trial -- has not been applied by the US government anywhere in the world -- AFTER Judge Forrest’s injunction. In other words, they were saying to a US judge that they could not or would not state whether Obama’s government had complied with the legal injunction that she had lain down before them.

To this, Judge Forrest responded that if the provision has indeed been applied, the United States government itself will be in contempt of court. Government attorneys also, in this hearing, again presented no evidence to support their position -- and brought forth no witnesses.

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http://dailycloudt.com/voice/358/us-attorneys-refuse-to-assure-judge-that-they-are-not-already-detaining-citizens-under-ndaa

8/12/2012 1:16:39 AM

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Holy SHIT


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcQyYVBEB6c

8/13/2012 5:09:24 PM

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White House Pulls Down TSA Petition Just Before The 25,000th Vote
Breaking News | August 12, 2012 | 7 Comments

(USA Hitman) The White House removed a petition about the TSA airport screening procedures from the White House “We the People” website.

About 22,500 of the 25,000 signatures necessary for a response from the Administration were obtained when the White House unexpectedly cut short the time period for the petition.

The site also went down for “maintenance” following an article in Wired.com (http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/08/nude-scanner-order/) that sought support for the campaign:

“A federal appeals court Wednesday ordered the Transportation Security Administration to explain why it hasn’t complied with the court’s year-old decision demanding the agency hold public hearings concerning the rules and regulations pertaining to the so-called nude body scanners installed in U.S. airport security checkpoints.

http://govtslaves.info/white-house-pulls-down-tsa-petition-just-before-the-25000th-vote/

8/14/2012 12:10:20 AM

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Small Wars Journal has published an article by an Army Colonel detailing a scenario in which the Army is required to take over an American city to suppress an “extremist militia motivated by the goals of the ‘tea party’ movement.” The document describes seizing control of Darlington, S.C., in 2016, whence the Army would be “occupying City Hall, disbanding the city council and placing the mayor under house arrest.”

NEWS COVERAGE:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/aug/7/the-civil-war-of-2016/

ARMY PUBLICATION:
http://smallwarsjournal.com/jrnl/art/full-spectrum-operations-in-the-homeland-a-%E2%80%9Cvision%E2%80%9D-of-the-future


8/14/2012 12:23:00 AM

Dentaldamn
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^ is that a still from "the seige"?

8/14/2012 8:02:32 AM

TKE-Teg
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The National Weather Service (NWS) has put out a bid solicitation for 46,000 hollow point bullets and 500 paper targets.

That seem a bit out of place to anyone????

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=bfd95987a1ad9a6dfb22bca4a19150cb&_cview=0

8/14/2012 1:16:14 PM

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^Didn't the NWS just buyout weatherundergound too?
Then they have all that haarp controversy, too.

strange.

8/14/2012 1:21:59 PM

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^^ that is very out of place and very strange. i'd really like to know more about why the NOAA feels they need all these firearms, ammo and targets... major "wtf" moment.

8/14/2012 2:10:57 PM

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That ammunition is likely going to Agents in the OIG and/or armed security guards for their sites throughout the US. Doesn't seem too crazy.

8/14/2012 2:25:55 PM

Restricted
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NOAA Office of Law Enforcement has both special agents and enforcement officers that enforce marine fisheries laws.

8/14/2012 7:53:33 PM

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"Then they have all that haarp controversy, too. "


Do you regularly listen to Alex Jones? Just curious..

8/14/2012 8:44:00 PM

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Do you regularly listen to the spice girls? Just curious..


also I came here to post this:




[Edited on August 14, 2012 at 10:06 PM. Reason : .]

8/14/2012 10:06:11 PM

TKE-Teg
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"In-car black box regulation still on track for September 1

According to The Detroit News, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is set to move forward with new rules governing the standardization of data recorders on new cars. The rules will take effect on September 1 of this year.

The Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers had petitioned NHTSA to postpone the requirement until at least September 1, 2013, but the government agency rejected the appeal. The group said that manufacturers that are currently using older event data recorders may simply disable the devices to comply with the new rules since the regulations don't actually force new cars to have the black boxes. General Motors, for example, has said it will disable some event data recorder functionality on both Chevrolet Malibu and GMC Savana models.

The rules aim to standardize exactly what information EDR modules collect and the format with which the devices store the data. Manufacturers will be required to record 15 vehicle parameters. Right now, a total of 90 percent of new vehicles for sale in the U.S. have EDRs. Eventually, NHTSA expects to mandate the technology on all new vehicles. Such a mandate was originally expected to fall at some point this year, but has been repeatedly delayed by the government agency. NHTSA estimates it will cost around $24.4 million to include the recorders the remaining 10 percent of unequipped models. "


awesome. Although after rereading this article it appears this is a standardization of black boxes, not a requirement for cars to have them. Hmmm

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/08/14/in-car-black-box-regulation-still-on-track-for-september-1/

[Edited on August 15, 2012 at 10:05 AM. Reason : k]

8/15/2012 10:02:34 AM

disco_stu
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Why are black boxes for cars evidence of a police state? Your right to defraud the victim of a car accident being impinged?

8/15/2012 10:05:34 AM

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Regarding above:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/post/national-weather-service-ammunition-solicitation-triggers-confusion/2012/08/14/3dc6b67e-e62a-11e1-936a-b801f1abab19_blog.html

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"NOAA says there was a “clerical error” in the FedBizOpps announcement stating the NWS required ammunition. The solicitation actually originated from the “NOAA Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement” not the National Weather Service. See bottom of post for more details. "


move cover-up from the conspiracy, amirite?

[Edited on August 15, 2012 at 10:14 AM. Reason : .]

8/15/2012 10:14:01 AM

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"move cover-up from the conspiracy, amirite?"



Disco is right. We're all being silly! There's no conspiracy here. We have no cause for concern for anything because he found out one of the latest concerns was a typo. That means all of our concerns are typos and myths! Duhhhh.


Man, I don't know what I would have done without you, disco!!

8/15/2012 1:09:06 PM

TKE-Teg
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^^interesting. Still, this "official" statement at the end raises even more questions:

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"Due to a clerical error in the federal business vendor process, a solicitation for ammunition and targets for the NOAA Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement mistakenly identified NOAA’s National Weather Service as the requesting office. The error is being fixed and will soon appear correctly in the electronic federal bidding system. The ammunition is standard issue for many law enforcement agencies and it will be used by 63 NOAA enforcement agents in their twice annual target qualifications and training. "


Who uses hollow point bullets for practice??

^^^lol, no not at all. However more and more cars are WiFi enabled and it doesn't take much to connect the dots to see where that, combined with these black boxes, can lead to.

[Edited on August 15, 2012 at 4:32 PM. Reason : k]

8/15/2012 4:21:24 PM

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^ Swarm based routing and navigation so I don't have to drive my car anymore; I can just ride in it while it does it's own thing?

8/15/2012 4:25:56 PM

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First it was the Department of Homeland Security, then it was the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and now the Social Security Administration is set to purchase 174,000 rounds of hollow point bullets that will be delivered to 41 locations across the country."


https://www.fbo.gov/utils/view?id=2014bef24fa3036092167fe586ee5216

8/15/2012 4:57:58 PM

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you might not use hollow point bullets for target practice and training, but if its what theyre expected to carry then its what theyre going to qualify with.

why would you qualify with a different load? as soon as youre in the field your POI is going to change.

it might not be cost effective, but government never is!

8/15/2012 8:10:33 PM

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Most every Fed Agency has an OIG w/ sworn special agents.

8/15/2012 9:16:15 PM

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The Department of Homeland Security has redacted information relating to the quantity of bullets it is buying following a controversy concerning the agency’s purchase of over a billion rounds of ammo, which many fear is a sign the federal government is preparing for civil unrest in the United States.

DHS Classifies New Ammo Purchases Following Controversy

Despite the fact that documents are only supposed to be redacted if authorized by Congress or for national security reasons, a solicitation posted on the FedBizOpps website yesterday concerning ammunition purchases made by the DHS on behalf of Immigration & Customs Enforcement (ICE) contains numerous blacked out sections.

The classified portions of the document include references to the amount of 223 62 and 223 64 grain ammunition being purchased.

The solicitation explains how the contract put out by the DHS to purchase the ammunition was not subject to “full and open competition,” a process justified by what the DHS claims was an “unusual and compelling urgency” to acquire the bullets, noting that there is a shortage of bullets which is threatening a situation which could cause “substantial safety issues for the government” should law enforcement officials not be adequately armed.


The DHS’ decision back in March to purchase of 450 million rounds of .40-caliber hollow point bullets that are designed to expand upon entry and cause maximum organ damage prompted questions as to why the federal agency required such powerful bullets and in such large quantities merely for training purposes.

This was followed up by a more recent order for a further 750 million rounds of assorted ammunition, including bullets that can penetrate walls.

Given the fact that the DHS is also acquiring riot gear in preparation for civil unrest which could take place at the upcoming DNC, RNC and presidential inauguration, the purchase of ammunition in such massive numbers has stoked fears that the federal government could be preparing to use force against the American people.




This screenshot illustrates how the DHS has blacked out information pertaining to the amount of bullets being purchased.



http://www.infowars.com/dhs-classifies-ammo-purchase-following-controversy/

omg it's infowars!
They show direct sources from FedBizOpps.gov on this one. Take of it what you will.

8/16/2012 4:44:48 AM

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