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Metricula
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"While we're working on basing our marriage laws on the bible, lets make sure to include the 'if you rape an unmarried woman you have to pay a small fine but get to marry her' bit."


"It's mine! I licked raped it first!"

[Edited on April 24, 2012 at 3:59 PM. Reason : Page]

4/24/2012 3:58:58 PM

BigMan157
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that strikeout might very well apply too, Metricula

4/24/2012 4:00:53 PM

DirtyGreek
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"^^^^You have 618 N College Street under both Raleigh and Charlotte. Is that a coincidence or are one of them not right?"


Sorry!

337 S SALISBURY ST
5900 WHITTIER DR
1300 E MARTIN ST

or check the list
http://www.app.sboe.state.nc.us/webapps/OS_sites/

4/24/2012 4:43:55 PM

bdmazur
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"Let he who hath not sinned cast the first stone"

and

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"Judge not, lest ye be judged""


It is hard to use those arguments, because they will claim that allowing gay marriage isn't judging the sinner but supporting the sin.

4/24/2012 6:18:31 PM

LeonIsPro
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Except this is not about supporting a sin. It's about legal rights. Especially since marriage is a legal action, which endows certain rights in this country. For example, if I thought homosexuality was sinful, but suddenly it was passed into law and gay marriage is allowed, is the action suddenly less sinful because the state has mandated legal action. No, sinful nature of the action does not change because the world says something different about it. The simple fact of the matter is, you cannot and never will be able to bring people to Christ by conforming the world to Biblical standards. Seeing as you have control over your own actions, you can set a standard for your lifestyle based on Christ, but you cannot change the world into Christ's image. And if you believe in Revelation you know that the final judgement occurs after the world has completely fallen into it's most sinful state (as it was before Noah and the flood). So while you can attempt to prolong the morality of the world (which barely applies here, because it does not arguably decrease the amount of homosexuality), you will never be able to conform the world to the image of Christ. And any world that is not the exact image of Christ, and thus sinless is not good enough to escape final judgement.

4/24/2012 6:57:31 PM

pdrankin
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^judgement from whom?

4/24/2012 7:04:02 PM

LeonIsPro
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God

4/24/2012 7:07:31 PM

ncsuapex
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Which god?

4/24/2012 7:27:54 PM

beatsunc
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http://youtu.be/ib-Qiyklq-Q

4/24/2012 7:44:56 PM

ncstateccc
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I am going to vote for it just because I think occupy wall street protesters will be against it.

[Edited on April 24, 2012 at 8:17 PM. Reason : .]

4/24/2012 8:16:41 PM

bdmazur
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"Except this is not about supporting a sin. It's about legal rights. "


Logical people understand that. People who quote the bible as a means of passing legislature do not.

4/24/2012 11:53:13 PM

wolfpackgrrr
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^ This.

They had a preacher on NPR this morning saying that voting for this amendment is supporting a lifestyle of disease and death. You simply cannot have a logical, reasonable discussion with someone like that.

4/25/2012 8:58:42 AM

wdprice3
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I have voted no on my pre-election (sample) ballot.

4/25/2012 9:02:09 AM

nacstate
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"http://youtu.be/ib-Qiyklq-Q"


While I appreciate that commercial, especially for its time, part of me can't help but laugh about how international they're trying to appear while everybody sings in english.

4/25/2012 9:09:53 AM

Bullet
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"I am going to vote for it just because I think occupy wall street protesters will be against it."


and you can't have a reasonable debate with political hacks like this who are unable to reason.

4/25/2012 10:10:13 AM

ncstateccc
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my vote counts just the same as someone who isn't a hack

4/25/2012 5:45:43 PM

ncsuapex
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Sweet! I'm straight so I can't get disease and die from sex! WOOOHOOO!

4/25/2012 5:48:23 PM

Snewf
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"my vote counts just the same as someone who isn't a hack"


democracy's deepest flaw

4/25/2012 9:18:59 PM

aaronburro
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my parents support it, because they think we should stick it to the homos

4/25/2012 9:23:55 PM

settledown
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vote against please

4/25/2012 9:33:46 PM

BJCaudill21
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it's really embarrassing that not only do we have to vote against this, but that this amendment isn't to overturn the laws against gay marriage already on the books. We're going two steps in the wrong direction.

4/25/2012 9:49:19 PM

Snewf
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makes us look like a bunch of backwards cave dwellers

Vote YES to Sharia Law in North Carolina!

4/25/2012 9:51:50 PM

ncsuapex
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Theres this chick a work that I suspected of being a lezbo. She's the typical linebacker lesbian with the mullet. I mean. She's cool and all but I wasn't sure. Then she rolls up with an amendment one sign in the rear window of her car. Guess which way shes voting! lol

4/26/2012 7:31:35 AM

Bullet
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4/26/2012 12:23:48 PM

raiden
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that last statement is just excellent.

4/26/2012 1:13:24 PM

Fareako
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Just submitted my FPCA form to receive an absentee ballot so I can vote on this!

4/26/2012 3:09:58 PM

DivaBaby19
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that last statement made my head hurt lol

4/26/2012 3:13:32 PM

pdrankin
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Still waiting on LeonIsPro to let us know which god is doing the judging.

Anybody else think its odd that the christian god loves you unconditionally (under the condition you love his son) but Lucifer accepts anyone?

Anyway, vote against this amendment.

4/26/2012 3:42:37 PM

Krallum
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Where in the bible does it say that we are supposed to police sin? I thought the deal was I could choose to act out sin here in exchange for eternal damnation. Getting punished here and in eternity is unfair. Let us sin christians. Please

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

4/26/2012 3:45:49 PM

pdrankin
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^ my man krallium, doing work.

4/26/2012 3:49:38 PM

Bullet
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The third from the bottom is the one that's most perplexing to me. Most who are for this claim to be conservative christian republicans. How can they justify voting for a freakin' constitutional amendment for big government to intefere in americans' private lives? Once again, it boils down to "The government needs to be as small as possible, and shouldn't tread on me.... but if i agree with it, it can tread on others." it's so hypocritical.

4/26/2012 4:52:43 PM

Beethoven
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^You do realize those are statements from people AGAINST amendment one, right?

4/26/2012 4:54:01 PM

Bullet
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yes i do. perhaps i didn't word it right, but i agree with that conservative republican. i find the conservative christian republicans who are against it perplexing because they should be against big government, no matter which side asks for it.

4/26/2012 4:55:51 PM

Beethoven
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Ah, okay. I agree with you then. I thought you found her sentiment perplexing.

4/26/2012 4:57:18 PM

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4/27/2012 2:52:40 AM

ncsuapex
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On the way home from work yesterday I saw about 10 of these signs. Only one was for it. But one that was against said:

Amendment one hurts children. Vote against.

LOL. And people say the rights are crazy.

4/27/2012 6:54:33 AM

wdprice3
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"yes i do. perhaps i didn't word it right, but i agree with that conservative republican. i find the conservative christian republicans who are against it perplexing because they should be against big government, no matter which side asks for it."


Real conservatives disagree with Amendment 1. Christian Conservatives are not real conservatives; they're an entirely different group.

4/27/2012 8:17:38 AM

wolfpackgrrr
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"On the way home from work yesterday I saw about 10 of these signs. Only one was for it. But one that was against said:

Amendment one hurts children. Vote against.

LOL. And people say the rights are crazy.
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Not sure what's crazy about it. One of the big questions on this is how it's going to affect child custody rights. http://wunc.org/programs/news/archive/SIA042412.mp3/view

4/27/2012 8:37:29 AM

AxlBonBach
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"Christian Conservatives are not real conservatives"


....huh?

4/27/2012 8:40:17 AM

wdprice3
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A true conservative doesn't base law on religious beliefs, doesn't make laws to increase the size/power/scope of government, etc. Christian conservatives would do these things, thus christian conservative != real conservative. Sure, their bubbles overlap on a venn diagram, but there are clear distinctions.

4/27/2012 8:48:40 AM

Bullet
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"On the way home from work yesterday I saw about 10 of these signs. Only one was for it. But one that was against said:

Amendment one hurts children. Vote against.

LOL. And people say the rights are crazy"


it seems that you don't really know what alls in this amendment. Because it most certainly does have the potential to harm children. And yes, those leading today's GOP and its current mission don't have the country's best interests in mind. If they did, they'd be focusing on stuff that actually matters and not on this ridiculous moral crusade that's wasting all our time and money.

[Edited on April 27, 2012 at 8:54 AM. Reason : ]

4/27/2012 8:51:18 AM

AxlBonBach
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yeah? well i guess that's just like... your opinion, man.

4/27/2012 8:51:41 AM

Bullet
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that it has the potential to harm children? nah, that's not just my opinion. read it.

4/27/2012 8:53:33 AM

wdprice3
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Did anyone every figure out what the amendment will actually say? What was passed in the legislature or what's going to be on the ballot?

4/27/2012 8:54:30 AM

AxlBonBach
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unrustle your jimmies, son. i was talking to wdprice.

4/27/2012 8:54:30 AM

AxlBonBach
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Here's the text:

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"Marriage between one man and one woman is the only domestic legal union that shall be valid or recognized in this State. This section does not prohibit a private party from entering into contracts with another private party; nor does this section prohibit courts from adjudicating the rights of private parties pursuant to such contracts. "


so there ya go. choose your own adventure.

4/27/2012 8:56:04 AM

wdprice3
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haha, yeh, so? I'm sure there are plenty of people who see clear differences between the groups. A lot of my conservative friends are Christians. Most disagree with the amendment, so I'm inclined to differentiate those friends who agree with the amendment; this also extends beyond this issue, but this is a good example.

4/27/2012 8:56:22 AM

AxlBonBach
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well my only reservation is that it's rather blanketed in it's approach.

there's so many subsets of conservatism that simply separating "christian conservative" from "real conservative" doesn't really do the ideological framework justice.

4/27/2012 8:59:37 AM

spöokyjon

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There are Christian conservatives, and then there are "conservatives" who seek to create a Christian state with "conservative" measures like Amendment One. Two pretty different things.

4/27/2012 9:02:35 AM

wdprice3
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^^well yeh, but there are labels that do define groups. In reality, no single label accurately describes any group of people; everyone is a bit different. You have to draw lines somewhere. To say it's a blanketed approach or doesn't do justice applies to any general description of any group of people. Just calling right-leaning people conservatives is a blanketed approach that doesn't do justice. My take on conservative politics is very different than a pastor's take on conservative politics; why are we lumped together as conservatives?

[Edited on April 27, 2012 at 9:06 AM. Reason : .]

4/27/2012 9:05:00 AM

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