Metricula Squishie Enthusiast 4040 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "While we're working on basing our marriage laws on the bible, lets make sure to include the 'if you rape an unmarried woman you have to pay a small fine but get to marry her' bit." |
"It's mine! I licked raped it first!"
[Edited on April 24, 2012 at 3:59 PM. Reason : Page] 4/24/2012 3:58:58 PM
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BigMan157 no u 103356 Posts user info edit post |
that strikeout might very well apply too, Metricula 4/24/2012 4:00:53 PM
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DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^^^You have 618 N College Street under both Raleigh and Charlotte. Is that a coincidence or are one of them not right?" |
Sorry!
337 S SALISBURY ST 5900 WHITTIER DR 1300 E MARTIN ST
or check the list http://www.app.sboe.state.nc.us/webapps/OS_sites/ 4/24/2012 4:43:55 PM
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bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Quote : "Let he who hath not sinned cast the first stone"
and
Quote : "Judge not, lest ye be judged"" |
It is hard to use those arguments, because they will claim that allowing gay marriage isn't judging the sinner but supporting the sin. 4/24/2012 6:18:31 PM
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LeonIsPro All American 5021 Posts user info edit post |
Except this is not about supporting a sin. It's about legal rights. Especially since marriage is a legal action, which endows certain rights in this country. For example, if I thought homosexuality was sinful, but suddenly it was passed into law and gay marriage is allowed, is the action suddenly less sinful because the state has mandated legal action. No, sinful nature of the action does not change because the world says something different about it. The simple fact of the matter is, you cannot and never will be able to bring people to Christ by conforming the world to Biblical standards. Seeing as you have control over your own actions, you can set a standard for your lifestyle based on Christ, but you cannot change the world into Christ's image. And if you believe in Revelation you know that the final judgement occurs after the world has completely fallen into it's most sinful state (as it was before Noah and the flood). So while you can attempt to prolong the morality of the world (which barely applies here, because it does not arguably decrease the amount of homosexuality), you will never be able to conform the world to the image of Christ. And any world that is not the exact image of Christ, and thus sinless is not good enough to escape final judgement. 4/24/2012 6:57:31 PM
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pdrankin All American 1508 Posts user info edit post |
^judgement from whom? 4/24/2012 7:04:02 PM
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LeonIsPro All American 5021 Posts user info edit post |
God 4/24/2012 7:07:31 PM
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ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Which god? 4/24/2012 7:27:54 PM
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beatsunc All American 10768 Posts user info edit post |
http://youtu.be/ib-Qiyklq-Q 4/24/2012 7:44:56 PM
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ncstateccc All American 2856 Posts user info edit post |
I am going to vote for it just because I think occupy wall street protesters will be against it.
[Edited on April 24, 2012 at 8:17 PM. Reason : .] 4/24/2012 8:16:41 PM
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bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Except this is not about supporting a sin. It's about legal rights. " |
Logical people understand that. People who quote the bible as a means of passing legislature do not. 4/24/2012 11:53:13 PM
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wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
^ This.
They had a preacher on NPR this morning saying that voting for this amendment is supporting a lifestyle of disease and death. You simply cannot have a logical, reasonable discussion with someone like that. 4/25/2012 8:58:42 AM
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wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
I have voted no on my pre-election (sample) ballot. ![](images/beatup.gif) 4/25/2012 9:02:09 AM
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nacstate All American 3785 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "http://youtu.be/ib-Qiyklq-Q" |
While I appreciate that commercial, especially for its time, part of me can't help but laugh about how international they're trying to appear while everybody sings in english. 4/25/2012 9:09:53 AM
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Bullet All American 28559 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I am going to vote for it just because I think occupy wall street protesters will be against it." |
and you can't have a reasonable debate with political hacks like this who are unable to reason. 4/25/2012 10:10:13 AM
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ncstateccc All American 2856 Posts user info edit post |
my vote counts just the same as someone who isn't a hack 4/25/2012 5:45:43 PM
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ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Sweet! I'm straight so I can't get disease and die from sex! WOOOHOOO! 4/25/2012 5:48:23 PM
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Snewf All American 63506 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "my vote counts just the same as someone who isn't a hack" |
democracy's deepest flaw ![](images/beatup.gif) 4/25/2012 9:18:59 PM
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aaronburro Sup, B 53261 Posts user info edit post |
my parents support it, because they think we should stick it to the homos 4/25/2012 9:23:55 PM
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settledown Suspended 11583 Posts user info edit post |
vote against please 4/25/2012 9:33:46 PM
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BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
it's really embarrassing that not only do we have to vote against this, but that this amendment isn't to overturn the laws against gay marriage already on the books. We're going two steps in the wrong direction. 4/25/2012 9:49:19 PM
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Snewf All American 63506 Posts user info edit post |
makes us look like a bunch of backwards cave dwellers
Vote YES to Sharia Law in North Carolina! 4/25/2012 9:51:50 PM
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ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Theres this chick a work that I suspected of being a lezbo. She's the typical linebacker lesbian with the mullet. I mean. She's cool and all but I wasn't sure. Then she rolls up with an amendment one sign in the rear window of her car. Guess which way shes voting! lol 4/26/2012 7:31:35 AM
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Bullet All American 28559 Posts user info edit post |
![](http://i.imgur.com/Qp0PM.jpg)
4/26/2012 12:23:48 PM
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raiden All American 10506 Posts user info edit post |
that last statement is just excellent. 4/26/2012 1:13:24 PM
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Fareako Shitter Pilot 10238 Posts user info edit post |
Just submitted my FPCA form to receive an absentee ballot so I can vote on this! 4/26/2012 3:09:58 PM
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DivaBaby19 Davidbaby19 45208 Posts user info edit post |
that last statement made my head hurt lol 4/26/2012 3:13:32 PM
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pdrankin All American 1508 Posts user info edit post |
Still waiting on LeonIsPro to let us know which god is doing the judging.
Anybody else think its odd that the christian god loves you unconditionally (under the condition you love his son) but Lucifer accepts anyone?
Anyway, vote against this amendment. 4/26/2012 3:42:37 PM
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Krallum 56A0D3 15294 Posts user info edit post |
Where in the bible does it say that we are supposed to police sin? I thought the deal was I could choose to act out sin here in exchange for eternal damnation. Getting punished here and in eternity is unfair. Let us sin christians. Please
I'm Krallum and I approved this message. 4/26/2012 3:45:49 PM
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pdrankin All American 1508 Posts user info edit post |
^ my man krallium, doing work. 4/26/2012 3:49:38 PM
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Bullet All American 28559 Posts user info edit post |
The third from the bottom is the one that's most perplexing to me. Most who are for this claim to be conservative christian republicans. How can they justify voting for a freakin' constitutional amendment for big government to intefere in americans' private lives? Once again, it boils down to "The government needs to be as small as possible, and shouldn't tread on me.... but if i agree with it, it can tread on others." it's so hypocritical. 4/26/2012 4:52:43 PM
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Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
^You do realize those are statements from people AGAINST amendment one, right? 4/26/2012 4:54:01 PM
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Bullet All American 28559 Posts user info edit post |
yes i do. perhaps i didn't word it right, but i agree with that conservative republican. i find the conservative christian republicans who are against it perplexing because they should be against big government, no matter which side asks for it. 4/26/2012 4:55:51 PM
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Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
Ah, okay. I agree with you then. I thought you found her sentiment perplexing. 4/26/2012 4:57:18 PM
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bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
![](http://nealsway.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/imgres-e1335505069458.jpeg)
4/27/2012 2:52:40 AM
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ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
On the way home from work yesterday I saw about 10 of these signs. Only one was for it. But one that was against said:
Amendment one hurts children. Vote against.
LOL. And people say the rights are crazy. 4/27/2012 6:54:33 AM
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wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "yes i do. perhaps i didn't word it right, but i agree with that conservative republican. i find the conservative christian republicans who are against it perplexing because they should be against big government, no matter which side asks for it." |
Real conservatives disagree with Amendment 1. Christian Conservatives are not real conservatives; they're an entirely different group. 4/27/2012 8:17:38 AM
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wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "On the way home from work yesterday I saw about 10 of these signs. Only one was for it. But one that was against said:
Amendment one hurts children. Vote against.
LOL. And people say the rights are crazy. " |
Not sure what's crazy about it. One of the big questions on this is how it's going to affect child custody rights. http://wunc.org/programs/news/archive/SIA042412.mp3/view 4/27/2012 8:37:29 AM
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AxlBonBach All American 45553 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Christian Conservatives are not real conservatives" |
....huh? 4/27/2012 8:40:17 AM
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wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
A true conservative doesn't base law on religious beliefs, doesn't make laws to increase the size/power/scope of government, etc. Christian conservatives would do these things, thus christian conservative != real conservative. Sure, their bubbles overlap on a venn diagram, but there are clear distinctions. 4/27/2012 8:48:40 AM
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Bullet All American 28559 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "On the way home from work yesterday I saw about 10 of these signs. Only one was for it. But one that was against said:
Amendment one hurts children. Vote against.
LOL. And people say the rights are crazy" |
it seems that you don't really know what alls in this amendment. Because it most certainly does have the potential to harm children. And yes, those leading today's GOP and its current mission don't have the country's best interests in mind. If they did, they'd be focusing on stuff that actually matters and not on this ridiculous moral crusade that's wasting all our time and money.
[Edited on April 27, 2012 at 8:54 AM. Reason : ] 4/27/2012 8:51:18 AM
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AxlBonBach All American 45553 Posts user info edit post |
yeah? well i guess that's just like... your opinion, man. 4/27/2012 8:51:41 AM
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Bullet All American 28559 Posts user info edit post |
that it has the potential to harm children? nah, that's not just my opinion. read it. 4/27/2012 8:53:33 AM
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wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Did anyone every figure out what the amendment will actually say? What was passed in the legislature or what's going to be on the ballot? 4/27/2012 8:54:30 AM
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AxlBonBach All American 45553 Posts user info edit post |
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unrustle your jimmies, son. i was talking to wdprice. 4/27/2012 8:54:30 AM
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AxlBonBach All American 45553 Posts user info edit post |
Here's the text:
Quote : | "Marriage between one man and one woman is the only domestic legal union that shall be valid or recognized in this State. This section does not prohibit a private party from entering into contracts with another private party; nor does this section prohibit courts from adjudicating the rights of private parties pursuant to such contracts. " |
so there ya go. choose your own adventure. 4/27/2012 8:56:04 AM
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wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
haha, yeh, so? I'm sure there are plenty of people who see clear differences between the groups. A lot of my conservative friends are Christians. Most disagree with the amendment, so I'm inclined to differentiate those friends who agree with the amendment; this also extends beyond this issue, but this is a good example. 4/27/2012 8:56:22 AM
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AxlBonBach All American 45553 Posts user info edit post |
well my only reservation is that it's rather blanketed in it's approach.
there's so many subsets of conservatism that simply separating "christian conservative" from "real conservative" doesn't really do the ideological framework justice. 4/27/2012 8:59:37 AM
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spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
There are Christian conservatives, and then there are "conservatives" who seek to create a Christian state with "conservative" measures like Amendment One. Two pretty different things.] 4/27/2012 9:02:35 AM
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wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
^^well yeh, but there are labels that do define groups. In reality, no single label accurately describes any group of people; everyone is a bit different. You have to draw lines somewhere. To say it's a blanketed approach or doesn't do justice applies to any general description of any group of people. Just calling right-leaning people conservatives is a blanketed approach that doesn't do justice. My take on conservative politics is very different than a pastor's take on conservative politics; why are we lumped together as conservatives?
[Edited on April 27, 2012 at 9:06 AM. Reason : .] 4/27/2012 9:05:00 AM
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