its slander, not libel

8/1/2012 11:58:02 PM

thanks.

my point stands, though.

8/2/2012 12:08:32 AM

the line was out the door and around the building

i would say chick fil a won

and both my county commissioner and state house rep were there, good times

8/2/2012 12:29:31 AM

the gays were in cahoots with chikfilet methinks.

8/2/2012 12:34:10 AM

8/2/2012 1:44:10 AM

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"Former GOP presidential candidate Mike Huckabee decreed Wednesday, Aug. 1, to be "Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day." The former Republican governor of Arkansas says he "has been incensed at the vitriolic assaults on the Chick Fil-A company because the CEO, Dan Cathy, made comments recently in which he affirmed his view that the Biblical view of marriage should be upheld." Of course, not one word of that is accurate, not even that Dan Cathy is the CEO (his dad is), and if you're standing in line waiting for your chicken sandwich and waffle fries, why not take a moment to learn about what Chick-fil-A really does, and -- even if you're opposed to same-sex marriage -- what your money is buying. Here are five reasons why Chick-fil-A isn't what you think: 1) Chick-fil-A has donated at least $5 million to organizations (including a certified hate group) that, among other things, depict gay people as pedophiles, want to make "gay behavior" illegal, and even say gay people should be "exported" out of America. Even if you oppose same-sex marriage, do you really want to support a company that advocates putting gay people in jail, or "exporting" them, just because they're gay? 2) Chick-fil-A president Dan Cathy didn't merely say he supports traditional marriage. Dan Cathy said if you support gay marriage, you "are inviting God's judgment on our nation," and that we "shake our fist at Him" when we do. Dan Cathy also said same-sex marriage is the result of a "deprived" mind and called it "twisted up kind of stuff." Even if you don't support same-sex marriage, do you really think gay marriage is "inviting God's judgment on our nation"? Haven't we all heard enough blame from those who claim to speak for the Lord, like after Katrina or, more recently, after the shooting in Aurora, Colo.? 3) Chick-fil-A supports organizations that have claimed they can change gay people into straight people -- "pray away the gay" -- despite the fact that practically every major medical organization has stated that this is not only impossible but dangerous and harmful. Even if you don't support same-sex marriage, do you support fake "science" that is known to harm the very people it claims to help? 4) The media keep saying Chick-fil-A has never discriminated, but the truth is that Chick-fil-A has been sued over a dozen times for employment discrimination. That's what a leading business publication, Forbes, stated in 2007, when they also called Chick-fil-A a "cult" and reported that Chick-fil-A's founder and CEO Truett Cathy said he wanted to hire married people because they are more industrious and productive. Truett Cathy has also said he would probably fire someone who "has been sinful or done something harmful to their family members." Even if you don't support same-sex marriage, do you want to support what some call a "cult" whose CEO says he would fire employees for "being sinful"? 5) Chick-fil-A is just exercising their First Amendment rights by running a business based on the Bible, right? Wrong. There's a line between the "free exercise of religion" and violating the law. If Chick-fil-A is violating the law by discriminating against gay people, or by firing women so that they can be "stay home" moms, as one woman who is suing Chick-fil-A says in court documents, that's not exercising religious expression or free speech, and that's not a First Amendment issue. It may be, if the court decides, a violation of the law. Even if you don't support same-sex marriage, do you want to support a company that might fire women to force them to be "stay home" moms against their will? There are plenty of good restaurants that are happy to work hard for your hard-earned dollar. Why support a company that is working so hard to deny people their rights?"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-badash/chick-fil-a-5-reasons-it-isnt-what-you-think_b_1725237.html

8/2/2012 8:48:04 AM

Because the sammiches are delicious, that's why.

8/2/2012 8:49:16 AM

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"including a certified hate group"

I wonder what the process is to become a certified hate group. Do they actually get certificates? Are there certified love groups?

8/2/2012 9:00:46 AM

This country is so fucking stupid

8/2/2012 9:02:06 AM

I would love to see the documentation to back up that list. That hasn't been my experience at all with CFA's hiring process. I have gay friends who work at CFA (yeah, seems weird, doesn't it) and I've never heard anyone complain of being fired because they had a kid. I do know that when my sister worked there (~10 years ago) she had to get a letter of reference and they encouraged them to be filled out by a pastor.

ETA: The links to "support" that article go back to propaganda sites and list organization like the Fellowship of Christian Athletes as one of the groups the $5mil went towards that promotes hate. And when you click on the link to "support" that, it takes you back to the "New Civil Rights Movement" website, not documentation.

[Edited on August 2, 2012 at 9:15 AM. Reason : ]

8/2/2012 9:10:36 AM

the FCA was promoting hate in my schools goddammit

8/2/2012 9:22:29 AM

How so? It was a good group of people at mine.

Here's the list of "hate groups". I don't know of all of these places, but I would argue a few of these are not hate groups.

Marriage & Family Foundation: $1,188,380
Fellowship Of Christian Athletes: $480,000
National Christian Foundation: $247,500
New Mexico Christian Foundation: $54,000
Exodus International: $1,000
Family Research Council: $1,000
Georgia Family Council: $2,500

For 2009:
Marriage & Family Legacy Fund: $994,199
Fellowship Of Christian Athletes: $480,000
National Christian Foundation: $240,000
Focus On The Family: $12,500
Eagle Forum: $5,000
Exodus International: $1,000
Family Research Council: $1,000

[Edited on August 2, 2012 at 9:28 AM. Reason : ]

[Edited on August 2, 2012 at 9:29 AM. Reason : PS, I'm not arguing that CFA is right, I want to make sure the "facts" we're going off of are facts.]

8/2/2012 9:23:22 AM

pretty much by being intolerant racist clique-sucking dickholes. and preps.

8/2/2012 9:28:23 AM

^^ From what I have read (sorry, no links handy), some of those groups actively promote the idea that homosexuals equate to pedophiles and you need to protect your children from them, and use their organizations to spread that message.

8/2/2012 9:34:26 AM

I've read that's the Exodus International group, though I'm trying to find the quotes to back that up. Still working on the others.

8/2/2012 9:37:10 AM

I'm just gonna start making my own chic-fil-a sandwiches and selling them on sundays outside of churches.

http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2012/07/homemade-chick-fil-a-sandwiches-recipe.html

8/2/2012 9:39:49 AM

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"4) The media keep saying Chick-fil-A has never discriminated, but the truth is that Chick-fil-A has been sued over a dozen times for employment discrimination. That's what a leading business publication, Forbes, stated in 2007, when they also called Chick-fil-A a "cult" and reported that Chick-fil-A's founder and CEO Truett Cathy said he wanted to hire married people because they are more industrious and productive. Truett Cathy has also said he would probably fire someone who "has been sinful or done something harmful to their family members.""

Just 12 times? I would imagine that's a very low number for a multi-billion dollar business.

8/2/2012 9:55:05 AM

(apparently that was five years ago. they've got a lot more stores now)

8/2/2012 9:56:04 AM

Good point, but the ratio still seems low in my "off the wall" random opinion

8/2/2012 10:02:06 AM

On a side note: next to the chic-fil-a near my work there's a family owned italian food drive-through/pickup right next door. It's been open now since January but it wasn't until the past couple of weeks where I've had to wait in a line. Business has really picked up and I think it's from folks who used to go to CFA and have decided to try something else. I hope it keeps up and this place stays open because their arrabbiata sauce is to die for!

8/2/2012 10:21:38 AM

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"the FCA was promoting hate in my schools goddammit "

Yeah the people who were members at my school were by and large dickheads and bullies.

8/2/2012 10:41:19 AM

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"I have gay friends who work at CFA (yeah, seems weird, doesn't it) and I've never heard anyone complain of being fired because they had a kid. "

I have a gay friend who worked at Chick-fil-A for quite a while but was just fired about three months ago because they found out he was gay. Just one example, of course, but there are tons of these kinds of stories out there.

8/2/2012 11:00:30 AM

sounds like an open and shut case! your friend should sue for millions. unless he just happened to not be very good at his job.

8/2/2012 11:08:48 AM

^Unfortunately there would be no grounds for a lawsuit in North Carolina. You can be fired legally because of your sexual orientation.

8/2/2012 11:20:40 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thNqs9fPcgM&feature=player_embedded

this guy...



....but i love the comments section

[Edited on August 2, 2012 at 11:23 AM. Reason : sdf]

8/2/2012 11:23:35 AM

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"I have a gay friend who worked at Chick-fil-A for quite a while but was just fired about three months ago because they found out he was gay. Just one example, of course, but there are tons of these kinds of stories out there."

There was another employee that use to work there that said that 2 employees were gay and the management did not care. She said they worried mostly about employees with customer service, not the sexual orientation the employees were.

If they fired because of sexual orientation, he should have filed a lawsuit.

8/2/2012 11:35:34 AM

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"^Unfortunately there would be no grounds for a lawsuit in North Carolina. You can be fired legally because of your sexual orientation."

8/2/2012 11:38:14 AM

Maybe not a cause of action in NC, but sure as hell a good reason to contact every news agency around. Certainly more worthy of attention than anything else about CFA I've seen.

8/2/2012 11:49:22 AM

How is it even legally possible to fire someone because of sexual orientation in NC? Can they also fire you on the basis of which religion you practice (or don't practice)?

8/2/2012 11:52:46 AM

No, that's a protected class. Sexual orientation is not. These are protected:

Age
Disability
Equal Pay/Compensation
Genetic Information
National Origin
Pregnancy
Race/Color
Religion
Retaliation (This falls under the REDA claim for things like workers comp, whistle blowing, osha, etc.)
Sex
Sexual Harassment

[Edited on August 2, 2012 at 11:56 AM. Reason : ]

8/2/2012 11:55:12 AM

Under North Carolina law you can't discriminate based on gender-identity. I would still bring up a lawsuit if fired simply for being gay.

8/2/2012 12:09:24 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jku_4IVJ5ik

8/2/2012 12:55:53 PM

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"I have a gay friend who worked at Chick-fil-A for quite a while but was just fired about three months ago because they found out he was gay. Just one example, of course, but there are tons of these kinds of stories out there. "

you are so full of shit

8/2/2012 1:01:46 PM

lol

8/2/2012 1:34:33 PM

Could boycotting a chicken place be called a "cock block"?

8/2/2012 2:04:50 PM

Are Chick-fil-a's franchises or all company owned? If franchises I wouldn't find it hard to believe that one store owner would fire employees for being gay while another would not. And with NC being a right to work state the owner could simply say, "You're fired," and not really offer up much of an explanation which then becomes a he said, she said situation. Were you fired for being gay or were you fired for something else?

8/2/2012 2:33:04 PM

from page 6 http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/01/chick-fil-a-store-breaks-with-founder-to-sponsor-lgbt-pride/

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"Chick-fil-A store breaks with founder to sponsor LGBT Pride New Hampshire’s only Chick-fil-A restaurant is going against the wishes of chicken chain founder Dan Cathy by pledging to co-sponsor an LGBT Pride Festival in the state. In a statement on the New Hampshire Pride Festival website, Nashua Chick-fil-A franchise manager Anthony Picolia said he was backing the the event, citing “positive relationships with family, friends, customers and employees in the LGBT community.” “It would make me sad if someone felt that they were not openly welcomed into my life or restaurant based on their belief, race, creed, sexual orientation or gender,” Picolia explained. “Chick-fil-A at Pheasant Lane Mall has gay employees and serves gay customers with honor, dignity and respect. We also don’t discriminate in giving back to the Nashua community, donating to a wide variety of causes.” “I would challenge people to come have a conversation with me before they make assumptions or boycott my restaurant. Come to my restaurant and see for yourself that my team and I only have one mission: To serve exceptional experiences to all.” Market research firm YouGov recently found that Chick-fil-A’s BrandIndex score had fallen 40 percent nationally since Cathy told the Baptist Press that his company was “guilty as charged” of funding groups that oppose marriage equality. Last week, Fox News host Mike Huckabee said he was so outraged that “militant homosexuals” were attacking the Christian restaurant chain that he called for a “Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day” on August 1. Former Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum on Wednesday told The Daily Caller that critics of the restaurant chain were guilty of “intolerance and bigotry.” “This is the kind of intolerance you’re seeing and it’s very unfortunate, but it’s the beginning of something that think I you’re going to see a lot more of as this issue — these issues fundamentally changing the basic moral foundation of our country continues to spread there’s going to be an intolerance for any dissent to that change,” Santorum said. Proponents of LGBT rights and marriage equality are also staging a “National Same Sex Kiss Day” at Chick-fil-A restaurants across the nation on Friday, August 3. “Head to your local Chick-fil-A and share a kiss with your sweetie,” organizers advised. “Let’s show Chick-fil-A that EVERYONE deserves to be able to fall in love, start a family, and take their children to eat fried chicken after a soccer match. ”"

[Edited on August 2, 2012 at 2:35 PM. Reason : ]

8/2/2012 2:34:56 PM

Quote :

"“I would challenge people to come have a conversation with me before they make assumptions or boycott my restaurant. Come to my restaurant and see for yourself that my team and I only have one mission: To serve exceptional experiences to all.”"

This guy has the right approach. Good for him. I do wonder if they can revoke his right to the franchise licensed store though, for not towing party lines.

[Edited on August 2, 2012 at 2:40 PM. Reason : ]

8/2/2012 2:38:10 PM

I wonder how many protesters will be thrown out for loitering

not many im sure, but it would be nice

hopefully they do their protest just off the grounds and not on the property, God forbid at the tables not paying for anything

8/2/2012 3:09:36 PM

If its true that you can fire someone from their job based on their sexual orientation in NC without legal ramifications, then I am going to start a company and hire some homosexual and heterosexual employees. After a month or two, I will take all the heterosexual employees into my office and tell all of them that they are all fired because they are not gay enough.

8/2/2012 5:20:31 PM

Chick-Fil-As from across the state yesterday
http://www.wral.com/news/local/image_gallery/11382277/

8/2/2012 5:26:41 PM

^

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"OLD PEOPLE EVERYWHERE."

8/2/2012 6:01:59 PM

8/2/2012 9:52:05 PM

Haha Chick-fil-a is laughing their way to the bank while these people boycott.

8/2/2012 9:52:46 PM

my favorite part of my facebook feed being filled with this bullshit is the people who are all about bashing chick-fil-a for being intolerant of gays, but who at the same time bash the shit out of christians

the hypocrisy of tolerance reminds me of:

Person A: "fuck you, nigger"
Person B: "shut up you racist faggot!"

8/2/2012 9:53:51 PM

Only in America will people eat fried chicken to prove to Jesus how much they hate queers.

8/2/2012 9:56:19 PM

8/2/2012 9:56:33 PM

Many homosapiens have often not been very rational. They let their emotions dictate and overwhelm their logical reasoning abilities.

I am a Vulcan and I approve this message.

8/2/2012 10:07:25 PM

8/2/2012 10:32:30 PM

my local chick-fil-a's drivethrough is crowded enough at 12-12:30 on a non-boycott day to either eat somewhere else, or eat lunch at either 11:30 or 1:30

8/2/2012 10:33:42 PM