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"SO? A bunch or people would be BLINDLY shooting"

Generally speaking, CC permit holders aren't going to BLINDLY shoot; they should know that shots are only taken when you can properly identify the target, life in danger, etc. I doubt an OK Corral would ensue, but if the attacker WAS spotted, options are better than none.


Why would someone take a 3 month old to the movies? Isn't it too loud in there and the volume could damage their hearing at that age?

7/21/2012 8:06:48 PM

yes on the 3mo old.

that was my main problem with the children being there. i mean, i don't think that a 6 year old should see this movie, but it's my opinion :shrug:

7/21/2012 8:08:59 PM

My niece went to movies at that age and would sleep right through them. It's probably a pretty good way to teach your baby to sleep through anything. Then again, my older brother and his wife also took her to a Star Trek convention at 8 days old.

7/21/2012 8:09:43 PM

Do people ever analyze their own opinions to make sure they're logical and correct to at least a third degree?

7/21/2012 8:11:51 PM

you certainly don't why would hold others to that standard

7/21/2012 8:12:22 PM

That's your opinion which is more like a troll that hasn't been thought out to the third degree.

7/21/2012 8:13:06 PM

This killer dude failed at killing.

7/21/2012 8:15:23 PM

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"Generally speaking, CC permit holders aren't going to BLINDLY shoot"

I know for a FACT that CC permit holders in many states only have to pass a very basic shooting and elementary written test. Put those people in that sort of dark theater environment with a fucking smoke and gas bomb, i don't think you can give any credit to the fact that they are CC holders.

It would be a fucked up situation and I wouldn't count on anyone's reactions being very rational. Put guns in the peoples' hands... that shit is just a recipe for an even worse disaster.

7/21/2012 8:16:00 PM

terpball, you're assuming.

You know what assuming does?

7/21/2012 8:17:38 PM

Let's look at best case scenerios:

Unarmed audience: Everyone can't protect themselves. Everyone who can't run faster than bullets is at the mercy of luck to escape.

armed audience: One armed man can shoot the perpetrator before he can kill anyone.



Without a doubt, the case with armed audience yields a POTENTIAL outcome that is 10^12 better than any outcome where an audience is unarmed.

[Edited on July 21, 2012 at 8:24 PM. Reason : .]

7/21/2012 8:22:27 PM

^That's what I'm trying to say. If not so, it's senseless to have a gun.

[Edited on July 21, 2012 at 8:31 PM. Reason : add another note]

7/21/2012 8:29:35 PM

you're assuming it'd be just as easy for some weirdo to get a gun if no one was allowed to have guns

7/21/2012 8:34:54 PM

^ ^^ Smoke bomb, darkness, and surprise eliminates any chance of somebody else getting a shot off

7/21/2012 8:34:58 PM

Criminals will always have guns. Laws make honest people not have them if illegal.

7/21/2012 8:40:25 PM

I'm sorry, but if you think putting guns in the hands of the audience members, considering they were surprised by someone who screened himself with a smoke and gas bomb, would have ameliorated the situation, you need to smack yourself.

A bunch of people, if shooting at all, would have been shooting at the "shooter" and if if 15 people are shooting in the theater... which one is the bad guy? Come on. Get real. SHEEEIIIIIIIIT

7/21/2012 8:41:19 PM

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"would have ameliorated the situation, you need to smack yourself."

Your vocabulary is not impressive.

7/21/2012 8:43:39 PM

The horror level of this scene is probably beyond any crimes happening in movies. The only one which can be compared with is Nazi camp.

7/21/2012 8:44:42 PM

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"Put guns in the peoples' hands... that shit is just a recipe for an even worse disaster."

It is only if you don't educate people on the proper use of firearms. There are a lot of things that are dangerous in this world. Automobiles are one of them. With the proper education, however, we can limit the potential danger automobiles cause. Same thing with anything else, be it tools, airplanes, medicines, and yes even guns.

We need to stop being a world of people who fear dangerous things and learn to conquer/master these things are dangerous.

It is easy to fear something that someone is unfamiliar/uneducated with. It has been ingrained in us that if we don't understand something, we should probably fear it.

A hammer is dangerous. If properly used, it's a wonderful tool.



[Edited on July 21, 2012 at 8:49 PM. Reason : .]

7/21/2012 8:45:26 PM

We are not talking about gang fighting. We are talking about how to save their own and other's lives.

7/21/2012 8:48:32 PM

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"Criminals will always have guns."

perhaps, but not one off weirdos

7/21/2012 8:49:01 PM

you people.

7/21/2012 8:54:30 PM

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"A hammer is dangerous. If properly used, it's a wonderful tool."

A gun is dangerous. If properly used, it's a...?

7/21/2012 9:14:16 PM

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"It has been ingrained in us that if we don't understand something, we should probably fear it. "

Absolutely, ingrained by evolution, by very rational and understandable means.

But people understand guns, so that point is moot. It's just stupid.

7/21/2012 9:16:07 PM

I like the guns and medicine analogy. thats easily the most absurd thing I've read in a long time, thanks for the laugh

7/21/2012 9:18:35 PM

^^It's a tool to defend justice.

7/21/2012 9:27:18 PM

looks like we have a regular captain america right here

7/21/2012 9:33:46 PM

made me lol

7/21/2012 10:26:04 PM

article written for Rolling Stone after Columbine, still appropriate..I'll troll my boat on out of here now....: "It is sad to think that the first few people on earth needed no books, movies, games or music to inspire cold-blooded murder. The day that Cain bashed his brother Abel's brains in, the only motivation he needed was his own human disposition to violence. Whether you interpret the Bible as literature or as the final word of whatever God may be, Christianity has given us an image of death and sexuality that we have based our culture around. A half-naked dead man hangs in most homes and around our necks, and we have just taken that for granted all our lives. Is it a symbol of hope or hopelessness? The world's most famous murder-suicide was also the birth of the death icon -- the blueprint for celebrity. Unfortunately, for all of their inspiring morality, nowhere in the Gospels is intelligence praised as a virtue."

7/21/2012 10:29:55 PM

AURORA, CO - JULY 21: Aurora Police Department motorcycles escort a dump truck filled with sand and improvised explosive devices removed from James Holmes' apartment July 21, 2012 in Aurora, Colorado. According to police in Aurora, a suburb of Denver, Holmes, 24, is in custody and is suspected of killing 12 people and injuring 59 during a screening of 'The Dark Knight Rises.' Holmes left his apartment filled with 30 various devices and trip wires ment to kill or hurt anyone entering

7/21/2012 10:55:59 PM

you think holmes will put to death? if so how fast? how do you think he will plea in court?

7/21/2012 10:58:16 PM

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"Unfortunately, for all of their inspiring morality, nowhere in the Gospels is intelligence praised as a virtue."

wow

7/21/2012 10:58:28 PM

also wbc is planning to show up soon.. this will end well.

http://www.examiner.com/article/the-westboro-church-plans-to-picket-the-aurora-shooting-memorial-service

7/21/2012 11:05:51 PM

Obviously the media is still feeding the trolls

7/21/2012 11:08:40 PM

dear national news media,

please stop interviewing NYC mayor bloomberg about this. he has nothing to do with this and is just railing about banning guns.

thanks,
america

7/22/2012 10:47:23 AM

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"A gun is dangerous. If properly used, it's a...?"

fun way to spend a saturday afternoon

7/22/2012 10:57:05 AM

Who knew WBC used such funny hashtags

#GodCursesUForFagMarriage
#fagsrunmilitary
#Auroradeadincludeslotsoffags!

These people

7/22/2012 11:02:00 AM

A crazy guy walks into a theater and starts shooting with a very minimal path to escape. I am sure everyone there thought to themselves, "OH MY GOD THIS IS AWFUL, AT LEAST NO ONE ELSE IN HERE HAS A GUN!"

7/22/2012 11:14:39 AM

I think people need to realize that these sort of things are the exception, not the rule. Violent crime in general has been on a steady decline for the past 10-20 years, while gun ownership has increased. (yeah yeah, correlation/causation etc)

7/22/2012 11:21:14 AM

Not sure if this has been posted yet...someone on facebook posted this...thinks it's a conspiracy or something

http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_James_Holmes_shooting_false_flag.html

7/22/2012 11:22:44 AM

look, i don't have a gun, but i want to be able to have whatever type of gun the military/police can carry. how else can i have an effective militia?

7/22/2012 11:38:36 AM

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"also wbc is planning to show up soon.. this will end well. http://www.examiner.com/article/the-westboro-church-plans-to-picket-the-aurora-shooting-memorial-service "

This link is showed me an ad for the blackhawk tactical vest the dude wore...targeted ads gone wrong.

7/22/2012 12:31:00 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/23/us/colorado-theater-heroism-obama/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

impressive

7/23/2012 10:10:33 AM

It sure doesn't take much to be considered a hero anymore. Just acting normally/decently now gets you recognized by the president as a hero. Best friend is shot in the neck and you take a little effort to put some pressure on the wound and pull her into an aisle and that makes you a hero? Wtf? Calling 911 makes her a hero? Wow, way to go for performing the most basic and expected action in an emergency situation. Don't they know that household pets are dialing 911 these days?

The bottom line is: what kind of person would not do that for a friend? If you left me to bleed out in the aisle while you cowered in fear then you are no friend of mine.

/rant

[Edited on July 23, 2012 at 10:51 AM. Reason : ]

7/23/2012 10:47:11 AM

well, compare it to the dude that jetted on his wife and kids in the same scenario

7/23/2012 10:55:57 AM

^^I hear what you're saying, but what you listed isn't why people are calling her actions heroic. staying behind in a panicked situation where the human self-preservation instinct is overpowering is commendable.

On the other end of the spectrum Jamie Rohrs is a fucking coward. Motherfucker put his 4 month old son down because he thought the crying would draw attention to them and then fled the theater, got into his car and fucking drove off while his gf took a bullet trying to get their kids out safely. A complete stranger, Jarell Brooks also took a bullet trying to help and protect them.

http://www.nodeju.com/24868/act-of-cowardliness-publicity-and-stupidity.html

[Edited on July 23, 2012 at 10:57 AM. Reason : .]

7/23/2012 10:57:02 AM

^^I know!!!!!!!! I read that and was like what the fuck! and then she said yes to his marriage proposal!!

First off, it took a massacre for him to want to marry you! You being his girlfriend for a long time didn't, you carrying and having his child didn't. No, it took him almost losing his life to want to marry you and to top it off he left you behind for dead.

Fucked up.

7/23/2012 10:59:47 AM

I suspect he realized what a fucking coward he was and proposed just to distract from that. hope she comes to her senses.

7/23/2012 11:01:07 AM

^did a guy really do that?

7/23/2012 11:02:59 AM

man, fuck NCSUGimp

7/23/2012 11:03:44 AM

7/23/2012 11:04:50 AM