And you seriously believe all these polls? I don't believe polls taken on either side of the line.

10/3/2012 10:47:02 PM

Its Official!

Round one, Mitt by TKO

10/3/2012 10:47:33 PM

NyM410: Probably, but that's the November projections. I'm thinking about the current polls shifting. They're already in margin-of-error territory nationally. One or two points is all Romney needs for Fox to declare him effectively ahead.

[Edited on October 3, 2012 at 10:50 PM. Reason : They'll never know!]

10/3/2012 10:47:36 PM

Quote :

"And you seriously believe all these polls? I don't believe polls taken on either side of the line."

Why? I don't believe any single one poll. But I trust an aggregation of polls where the methodology and sample is thoroughly vetted.

And a 66% chance of winning is anything but a lock.

^ fair enough. I don't even think that Romney will gain that much in the current polls. Some? Yes. But I just don't think there is enough willing to change for any reason to create a seismic shift.

[Edited on October 3, 2012 at 10:50 PM. Reason : x]

10/3/2012 10:49:28 PM

Romney: "Look, I think the president and I agree that niggas be frontin' on, uh....on health care costs. Or, uh...you know, on health care."

10/3/2012 10:50:03 PM

I hope a kicked ass is covered under Obamacare...hahahahaha

10/3/2012 10:50:09 PM

Quote :

"They're already in margin-of-error territory nationally."

popular? yes.

swing states? no.

10/3/2012 10:50:59 PM

i dont care what these bitches have to say anymore dont they have husbands that are going to come home hungry?

10/3/2012 10:52:48 PM

True, but the news networks don't care. They want a horse race for their ratings and will use anything they can to make the election look like one

[Edited on October 3, 2012 at 10:53 PM. Reason : .]

10/3/2012 10:53:10 PM

So... How are tax cuts if the revenue raises has to be the same as they are now?

So they'll lower my tax rate, yet at the same time increase my taxable income so that on average they get the same revenue? That's not a tax cut, that's just tax neutral...

10/3/2012 10:53:56 PM

Between the President hammering Romney on all the missing details and the failed arithmetic behind trying to cut the deficit with tax cuts and no real spending cuts, I think he came across as better able to paint a picture of his opponent.

Romney spending time trying walk a line between supporting RomneyCare and opposing ObamaCare seemed like a hard line to walk that doesn’t pick him up any points.

Romney needed a game changer at this point given how far behind he is in the polls in the swing states. I think the President won, but even for someone thinking Romney won, I don’t think anyone thinks this was the game changer that Romney needed at this point.

10/3/2012 10:54:40 PM

Challenger typically gains a few points after first poll:
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/03/first-debate-often-helps-challenger-in-polls/

Romney still has an uphill battle.

Obama's going to learn from his mistakes, one would think.

and lol @ person attacking the polls. They've been pretty accurate in past elections, no reason to doubt them now.

10/3/2012 10:54:50 PM

wooooo


22 percent thought obama won


mitt is sewing obamas ass back up for the next debate

[Edited on October 3, 2012 at 10:56 PM. Reason : w]

10/3/2012 10:55:28 PM

Romney said that the US has the best health records in the world.

W

T

F

10/3/2012 10:55:57 PM

^^You are smoking the fucking crack pipe if you think Obama won. I should have looked at your user tag DNC----fail

10/3/2012 10:56:32 PM

supplanter why are you posting this isnt a gay issue

thats the next debate

[Edited on October 3, 2012 at 10:57 PM. Reason : w]

10/3/2012 10:56:55 PM

I find it funny that all the Republicans I know are all, ROMNEY WON! And vice versa.

I will say that I totally agree with wolfpackgrr's comment of having Samuel L. Jackson next time as the moderator. (I think it was her, or someone who commented on her FB status)

10/3/2012 10:57:50 PM

samuel l jackson is a moron and a fuckin coon

are you kidding?

10/3/2012 10:58:21 PM

Dude, really? Take a joke.


(But you can't deny he would have kept them in line way better than broseph we had tonight. )

[Edited on October 3, 2012 at 10:59 PM. Reason : .]

10/3/2012 10:58:48 PM

i will not

i want a moderator that has teeth, figuratively as well as literally

and tits, maybe kat denning...ill take a small gap

[Edited on October 3, 2012 at 11:00 PM. Reason : e]

10/3/2012 10:59:34 PM

As someone who has less than zero respect for Mitt Romney, he performed better tonight.

It's pretty obvious for anyone who watched, including Obama.

Look at their body language during the handshake. They both know who won.

10/3/2012 10:59:35 PM

And who the fuck are the people who will sit and watch a debate but don't know who Jim Lehrer is?

10/3/2012 11:00:15 PM

Yeah, every poll I've seen so far has shown people think Mittens won the debate pretty easily.

Like I said, when Chris Matthews is on MSNBC screaming about Obama being too passive and Ed Schultz thinks Romney won the debate you know it's an issue for the Obama campaign.

Obama spoke longer but the debate seemed dominated by Romney, he controlled the flow of the conversation and pushed the moderator around.

It was not a good night for the President.

10/3/2012 11:01:06 PM

he obviously aint nobody worthy of respect

10/3/2012 11:01:18 PM

Steven Colbert should moderate one of the debates.

But it'd mean bringing Having a few extra pairs of pants ready.

10/3/2012 11:01:53 PM

shit i should have superimposed rap music over the debate and turned the televison vloume down


actually i can do that on the recording!!!

SWEET!

im actually thinking Gangstarr

10/3/2012 11:03:43 PM

Jill Stein is someone my friends keep matching with that "who do you side with" internet quiz. In this video they debate like the candidates should have debated to begin with.

10/3/2012 11:07:41 PM

BigHitSunday:

Quote :

"supplanter why are you posting this isnt a gay issue"

Haha. There was actually a reference in the President's closing remarks about repealing Don't Ask Don't Tell I believe. That wouldn't have happened under a President Mitt Romney or Vice President Paul Ryan who both opposed repeal. Under them we'd actually lose ground with marriage discrimination amendments being pushed for the US Constitution.

10/3/2012 11:07:43 PM

ok i was wrong

10/3/2012 11:09:34 PM

Politics in shit chat > Tsb

10/3/2012 11:11:29 PM

Also, this comment is about optics not policy, but Romney was painted as being on the wrong side of the AARP on more than one occasion. And that's a bad place to be in an election since those guys vote.

10/3/2012 11:11:49 PM

There's no doubt that Obama had a chance to hit big on SS, but he didn't. He started his comments by saying that he suspected both he and Romney wanted to protect SS.

What the fuck?

You're supposed to be differentiating yourself from your opponent, not preemptively agreeing with him! Seriously, who prepped Obama for this debate?

10/3/2012 11:14:07 PM

^ The 2004 loser.

10/3/2012 11:14:48 PM

There's no doubt that Obama had a chance to hit big on SS, but he didn't. He started his comments by saying that he suspected both he and Romney wanted to protect SS.

What the fuck?

You're supposed to be differentiating yourself from your opponent, not preemptively agreeing with him! Seriously, who prepped Obama for this debate?

10/3/2012 11:14:56 PM

What exactly was mitt good at aside from slinging his dick around?

10/3/2012 11:18:37 PM

Romney said he'll only create 12 million jobs? But we have 23 million without according to you bro? What about the other 11 million?

10/3/2012 11:20:03 PM

Was dissaPointed that mitt actually admitted to wanting to get more taxes from the middleclass and Obama dd nut call him out

I felt both were trying to come off as compromises

10/3/2012 11:23:06 PM

https://twitter.com/politifact
https://twitter.com/factcheckdotorg

10/3/2012 11:24:59 PM

CNN Debate poll of registered voters:

Who won?

Romney 67%

Obama 25%

10/3/2012 11:26:18 PM

Ouch

10/3/2012 11:32:06 PM

looks like Obama pulled and Amerson

10/3/2012 11:37:42 PM

I expected Obama to wipe the floor with Romney. Romney was calm and collected, whereas Obama looked like he didn't want to be there and made little eye contact with Romney.

I think saying one person won over the other is stupid, but Romney far exceeded my expectations in what he put forth. Should be interesting to see the next debate.

10/3/2012 11:38:32 PM

It's just the first debate. I'd expect somewhere near a complete 180 in the next bout. FWIW, I think Biden will get the better of Ryan too while simultaneously putting a foot in his mouth at least 4 times.

10/3/2012 11:39:30 PM

Quote :

"PULLED AND AMERSON"

10/3/2012 11:52:16 PM

Quote :

"What exactly was mitt good at aside from slinging his dick around?"

Looks like someone doesn't even know what a debate is, but not really surprising since it's BanjoMan.

Him and Supplanter really bringing the lols tonight.

10/4/2012 12:06:41 AM

no way in hell biden gets the best of ryan. not a chance

10/4/2012 12:13:41 AM

When Ed Schultz, Chris Matthews, Andrew Sullivan, and BILL MAHER say president Obama rode a dick tonight...

...president Obama rode a dick tonight.



[Edited on October 4, 2012 at 12:22 AM. Reason : -]

10/4/2012 12:21:39 AM

Obama looked to me like he didn't want to be there

10/4/2012 12:22:45 AM

I think you got a count it as a win for Romney just because he remained evasive on all of his policy issues, and Obama could nail him down on him any of them. Until Obama can get Romney to fess up to how stupid and/or nonexistent his plans are he won't be able to make significant progress in the debates. Also Obama didn't attack his biggest screw ups, like the 47% tape. Maybe he is saving it for a later debate so people don't get tired of hearing about it.

For undecided voters who think Romney won, I like to ask what policy issues specifically Romney won and why. I agree he probably sounded more confident, what exactly was he right about?

10/4/2012 12:23:24 AM

Quote :

"Also Obama didn't attack his biggest screw ups, like the 47% tape."

That's because Obama isn't an idiot on a college messageboard like you.

Mentioning that tape is one of the only things he could have talked about that would have made him look more pathetic tonight.

It's the kind of thing that might make him a champion here, but a loser in general.

Get it? It's called maturity.

For argument sake, if you were Obama, how exactly would you have worked the 47% into one of your responses? This is bound to be classic.








On the other hand maybe you're right; maybe Obama could have nailed Romney's ass on some of those numbers. Funny thing is, he was too busy daydreaming about, well, idk.

A rack of ribs? Michelle Obama's sweet ass tonight during anniversary sex? Who knows?

Most people know that debates aren't about hashing out 100% correct and tangible figures/policies/goals/etc.

It's all about appearances. I encourage you to research the JFK/Nixon debate phenomenon.

Or instead you can just keep reading Reddit and The Onion.

[Edited on October 4, 2012 at 12:33 AM. Reason : -]

10/4/2012 12:29:02 AM