The director of the national parks service disproved that talking point already

he also reminded everyone that there is a first amendment exception to the closures, so the tea party should spend their faux outrage on more important things that are not funded

10/6/2013 7:29:33 PM

Quote :

"I don't get why people are pissed things funded by the government are being closed."

Because of the endless amount of money they are wasting by putting security and blockades around national monuments that are open air, most of which never have any security around them on a normal day.

10/6/2013 10:54:03 PM

False, that talking point is incorrect

10/6/2013 10:56:30 PM

if all of these things that are federally funded are not getting the funds....why aren't my taxes lower?



I'll be doing my part to make sure none of these self centered idiots that lack any idea of common sense to make a return trip to Washington.

10/6/2013 11:52:00 PM

what is the point in furloughing people if you are going to pay them for the time they missed?

10/7/2013 12:30:15 AM

people need something to complain about

10/7/2013 12:38:17 AM

Quote :

"what is the point in furloughing people if you are going to pay them for the time they missed?"

Good question to ask on Fox News.

10/7/2013 1:14:36 AM

Quote :

"False, that talking point is incorrect"

troll

10/7/2013 9:38:02 AM

http://www.letsmove.gov/

10/7/2013 9:51:25 AM

Quote :

"Smokey mountain national park is closed. 1/3 of the trip is down the shitter (gatlinburg and pigeon forge are still open, but let's be honest, hiking the trails was the highlight). Now I am rushing to find trails that are not in the park, and the state road that cuts through the park from Cherokee NC may be closed (add at least an hour to the drive now)."

Perhaps a naive viewpoint, but couldn't you just bypass the gates and enter the trails somewhere else? How is the fed gov't shutting down nature?

10/7/2013 10:03:41 AM

I would put all of my energy into getting on those trails no matter what.

If anything puts your trip in the shitter its going to be Pigeon Forge / Gaitlinburg. Except for Dollywood (which is tolerable) no two cities in the US suck more dick.

10/7/2013 10:13:40 AM

Obama is personally funding a Muslim Museum through the shutdown!!
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/10/05/fox-falls-for-fake-story-about-obama-personally/196304

10/7/2013 10:52:59 AM

Quote :

"what is the point in furloughing people if you are going to pay them for the time they missed?"

That's why this is all kind of a joke. They're essentially on paid vacation at this point, which means this shutdown will literally cost money, and I don't mean that in the silly liberal "tax cuts cost money" way.

10/7/2013 10:56:00 AM

since when is the shutdown about saving money? the shutdown is because there is no budget.

10/7/2013 10:58:03 AM

Quote :

"which means this shutdown will literally cost money"

the shutdown was *always* going to cost money. who are you trying to kid here?

10/7/2013 10:59:03 AM

NWS Staff Walks to Work in Blizzard Despite Shutdown

http://www.climatecentral.org/news/during-shutdown-nws-staff-walks-to-work-in-raging-blizzard-16576

10/7/2013 11:48:06 AM

Den Burr doesn't think its a big deal if we default on the debt

[Edited on October 7, 2013 at 8:31 PM. Reason : Den = Sen]

10/7/2013 8:30:12 PM

Regardless of political party, opinion of Obamacare, or who you blame for the shutdown...a government that intentionally makes life harder for its citizens is no longer of, by, or for the people. That is a fact.

10/8/2013 1:15:58 AM

hasn't been for like 200 years

10/8/2013 1:31:12 AM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/10/07/the-13-reasons-washington-is-failing/

great summary on why our government is failing

10/8/2013 7:54:51 AM

the number of republican congressfolk jumping on board the "we won't default, we can just prioritize our debt payments" bandwagon is really starting to get scary.

10/8/2013 8:08:48 AM

CC = TSB2

10/8/2013 10:10:40 AM

^^^Good article, however the author is a regular contributor to MSNBC:

Quote :

"Ezra Klein is the editor of Wonkblog and a columnist at the Washington Post, as well as a contributor to MSNBC"

Which explains #9 perfectly. I definitely agree with #11 and #12.

10/8/2013 12:49:26 PM

Hey look, emory is back and *still* not responding to anyone's posts.

10/8/2013 9:37:41 PM

10/8/2013 11:46:26 PM

http://kotaku.com/online-store-offers-free-games-to-furloughed-government-1442962648

Quote :

"Finally, we would like to express our condolences to everyone who's been furloughed by the shutdown. More than that, actually, we'd like to offer you the games pack of our special Shutdown Promo for free. Send an email to thanksobama@gog.com with your picture holding the official furlough letter you received, before Friday 11 October 2013 at 12:00 EDT and we'll give you The Guild: Gold Edition, Capitalism, Capitalism 2, Tropico: Gold Edition, Alpha Centauri + Alien Crossfire, Theme Hospital, and Redneck Rampage free"

10/9/2013 12:05:52 PM

ha

Brandon Morse@TheBrandonMorse Follow
A guy has taken it upon himself to mow the lawn at the Lincoln Memorial. God bless that man. #tcot #shutdown


http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/there-is-some-random-guy-mowing-the-lawn-of-the-lincoln-memo?bffb

[Edited on October 9, 2013 at 2:31 PM. Reason : .]

10/9/2013 2:30:54 PM

It begins, with a couple firms ditching short-term Treasuries in anticipation of a default (I heard on the BBC World Service that another American firm did this too, blacking out a longer range of due dates, but I haven't found a link): http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-fidelity-bonds-20131009,0,3822933.story

BTW,

Quote :

"They're essentially on paid vacation at this point, which means this shutdown will literally cost money, and I don't mean that in the silly liberal "tax cuts cost money" way."

I for one think dtownral is silly for thinking that tax cuts don't cost money when taxes are already well below the region of counterproductivity; also even without the back-pay the shutdown would cost money, like the transition costs aren't mere trifles.

10/10/2013 6:13:24 AM

I'm not sure why you think that is my opinion or that it is relevant to the shutdown

10/10/2013 6:54:03 AM

^^ that was a pretty nonsensical post.

10/10/2013 9:44:52 AM

http://www.redstate.com/2013/10/10/house-gop-preparing-to-give-up/

Quote :

"I’m being told by several sources that Speaker Boehner and Majority Leader Eric Cantor are plotting to give up trying to either defund or delay Obamacare."

10/10/2013 8:05:58 PM

sweet, so we shut down the government out of principle and then gave up because we couldn't win

nice expensive as shit moral stand

[Edited on October 10, 2013 at 8:11 PM. Reason : ]

10/10/2013 8:10:56 PM

Quote :

"I'm not sure why you think that is my opinion"

sorry, read the wrong name, it was d357r0y3r

and it wasn't relevant overall, just pointing out that not everyone takes the simplified Laffer curve as gospel

10/10/2013 9:05:24 PM

Obama said no, good for him

10/11/2013 7:24:49 AM

Another day and more Republican ineptitude.

these guys are not responsible enough to lead our nation. Even if you agree with Republican ideology, its clear that Republicans can not be trusted to run the nation. Time and time again, Republicans have led us to the edge and Democrats have been the adults in the room.

10/16/2013 7:34:32 AM

i hope no one currently in office gets reelected

10/16/2013 8:08:18 AM

^ you can sure as hell bet i'm not voting for obama again

10/16/2013 8:29:53 AM

On the plus side, the metro has not been nearly as crowded lately. Neither has 495, 270, or 66

10/16/2013 9:36:39 AM

on the downside, its costing us 300 million a day

10/16/2013 9:41:21 AM

Sure, if you want to focus on not picky negative details...

10/16/2013 9:45:18 AM

debbie downer

10/16/2013 9:47:06 AM

I was in Arlington last weekend. The Peruvians didnt seem to care about the shutdown. Their chicken was spot on.

10/16/2013 9:55:33 AM

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/16/us-usa-fiscal-northcarolina-idUSBRE99F00Y20131016


NC first to shut down welfare.

10/16/2013 10:48:50 AM

looks like they got a deal to temporarily re-open the gubment

Quote :

"Breaking News ?@BreakingNews 16m Bipartisan deal in hand to reopen government, avoid default, Republican senator says - @AP"

[Edited on October 16, 2013 at 10:55 AM. Reason : asdf]

10/16/2013 10:54:51 AM

Quote :

"Governor Pat McCrory appointed Dr. Aldona Zofia Wos to serve as Secretary of the North Carolina Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS)"

Quote :

"Critics note that a state "rainy day fund" has $650 million for emergency use and say it's politics, not finances, that drives North Carolina's position on federal programs. The Work First program cost about $4.8 million for September in North Carolina."

Compassionate conservatives y'all.

10/16/2013 11:00:25 AM

I hate Eric Cantor so much, what a dick

10/16/2013 11:33:51 AM

Some crazy woman started yelling in the chamber, you can't hear her in the video so here's audio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhcP801h20U

https://soundcloud.com/toddzwillich-1/floor1-101612-wav

10/16/2013 11:23:00 PM

woohoo! only 25 minutes to Debt Ceiling Day!

10/16/2013 11:35:27 PM

She was the Stenographer. Which is hilarious.

10/16/2013 11:36:27 PM

/thread

til jan / feb?

10/17/2013 3:08:33 PM