He won't make it to the general, and if he did, he would get destroyed. His unfavorables among Republicans is sky high, ~60%, which is why despite maximum exposure he's not breaking that 25-30% barrier in primary polling.

8/25/2015 11:51:48 AM

He'll probably win some states.

8/25/2015 3:19:18 PM

Frank Luntz says that he's not going to implode, that he is impossible to take down

8/25/2015 4:09:41 PM

Trump is doing a hell of a job shining a spotlight on racists in the republican party

8/26/2015 1:30:07 PM

Quote :

"In 1988, George H.W. Bush won 59 percent of the white vote, which translated into 426 electoral votes. Twenty-four years later, Romney won 59 percent of the white vote and just 206 electoral votes. "

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-havoc-that-donald-trump-wreaks--on-his-own-party/2015/08/26/7418c2c8-4b4c-11e5-84df-923b3ef1a64b_story.html

8/27/2015 10:08:45 AM

^

Not saying some of those points aren't valid but

Quote :

"Disclosure: The columnist’s wife, Mari Will, works for Scott Walker. "

8/27/2015 10:21:13 AM

i really don't care about all the other stuff he says about trump. i just linked the article in case anyone wanted to see a source for the numbers behind how the white vote impact has changed

[Edited on August 27, 2015 at 10:45 AM. Reason : .]

8/27/2015 10:44:51 AM

^^ george will is a known GOP shill, that disclosure doesn't really change the tone of his column.

He's not saying anything no one else isn't saying either, what's "new" there is that it seems the mainstream GOPers are starting to call Trump racist for saying what the GOP has been saying for a decade, just in more coded terms.

8/27/2015 11:46:41 AM

8/27/2015 10:53:15 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/28/politics/palin-schilling-suspension/index.html

Quote :

"Palin accused ESPN of buying into terrorist propaganda and advancing "liberal global politics.""

The great irony is that with all their war-mongering and advancement of enacting Christian Law onto people of our nation, Right-wing conservatives share more in common with ISIS and radical islam then the "liberal"(s) agenda that she is denouncing.

8/28/2015 9:27:34 AM

^ It's really difficult for me to take anything you say seriously when you think this. Why don't you read up on ISIL and radical Islam and what they have done lately, all you're doing is exposing to everyone on this board that you're uneducated.

[Edited on August 28, 2015 at 10:12 AM. Reason : .]

8/28/2015 10:07:59 AM

Well I know it's a stretch but i'd say Right-Wing Christian conservatives have more in common with radical islam (minus the hyper-USA patriotism) then the hippy eco-liberal douches that always have to be PC, for everyone to live in peace/harmony and shirk person responsibility to being the fault of the "system".

Every time I put the news some Hard-Ass GOPer is:
- Talking about blowing up some country that doesn't agree with us
- Eliminating PP and rallying the anti-choice crowd
- Bitching about drugs
- Jesus/God/Christian Nation
- Complaining about something in pop culture corrupting our moral fabric
- Family Values
- Rawr Rawr Rawr
- Drugs are bad mmmkay

Seems like all positions hard-core islams would hold as long as you substitute Jesus with Allah and add a few "fuck the infidels" and "death to America" chants.

[Edited on August 28, 2015 at 10:27 AM. Reason : a]

8/28/2015 10:26:26 AM

.

[Edited on August 28, 2015 at 11:47 AM. Reason : double post]

8/28/2015 11:47:24 AM

[Edited on August 28, 2015 at 11:47 AM. Reason : double posted a double post]

8/28/2015 11:47:24 AM

Plus the whole theocracy / pseudo-fascism thing.

I mean, it's not 100% accurate but it isn't exactly a far stretch.

[Edited on August 28, 2015 at 11:48 AM. Reason : a legit edit]

8/28/2015 11:47:24 AM

Quote :

"- Talking about blowing up some country that doesn't agree with us"

THEY HAVE NO FUCKING POWER TO DO ANYTHING DUMBASS!

Quote :

"- Eliminating PP and rallying the anti-choice crowd"

I am so sorry people have a different opinion on a political issue than you.

Quote :

"- Bitching about drugs"

I am so sorry people have a different opinion on a political issue than you.

Quote :

"- Jesus/God/Christian Nation"

I apologize people have a different philosophical outlook on life than you. No one is setting up a theocracy. Constitutional changes require two thirds of both Houses and 38 states to sign off, which is not happening, period. If you seriously think a theocracy in this country is even remotely possible, I question how you were intelligent enough to be admitted to North Carolina State University.

Quote :

"- Complaining about something in pop culture corrupting our moral fabric"

It's what a lot of people have done in this thread about Trump, including yourself on this thread a couple pages back, so you are being hypocritical. (And I've made my position clear here I'm not a fan of the man.)

Quote :

"- Family Values"

The best people I meet on a daily basis normally are part of a strong family. Not saying being part of a good family means you'll turn out right or not being part of a good family means you'll turn out horrible, but it's a general rule that holds. Look at our president, he would've never became president if it wasn't for a loving grandmother that nurtured him. If you don't believe me I can introduce you to my wife who is a school counselor and she can tell you stories about children with issues and what their parents are like.

Quote :

"- Rawr Rawr Rawr"

This is not a substantive point about anything.

Quote :

"- Drugs are bad mmmkay"

You repeated yourself from up above.


By the way, HUR's Favorite Quote, so I'm not entirely sure why he's here unless he's trying to prove he's retarded according to what he himself has stated:

"Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics, even if you win you are still retarded"

[Edited on August 28, 2015 at 12:07 PM. Reason : /]

8/28/2015 12:00:50 PM

I don't think that it's a stretch to insinuate that hard-right Christians and hard-right Muslims share many of the same political opinions and philosophical outlooks on life.

I'm surprised that their respective hatred for gays and support for capital punishment weren't mentioned as well.

8/28/2015 12:58:45 PM

They also want a theocracy and want to be able to force their religious beliefs on others and want to be able to prosecute and punish others based on their own beliefs

8/28/2015 3:56:32 PM

Ted Cruz is the only one who can stop Trump.

8/28/2015 4:04:19 PM

Of course the GOP is talking about fake problems like illegal immigration, planned parenthood, and drugs. They have nothing else! No wars, economy is fine, people have healthcare now, etc..... The real problems that need to be addressed are all liberal/progressive agendas like income inequality, climate change, and education. They aren't going to win primary voters talking about those things and there is nothing tangible to rail against Obama about. They are fucked.

8/28/2015 5:04:14 PM

The candidates still has the stand by imaginary issue of how the incompetent lazy government is gonna find out where your guns are and send agents to take them. I am waiting for one of the lesser known candidates to say something ridiculous on that to get attention.

[Edited on August 29, 2015 at 10:54 AM. Reason : .]

8/29/2015 10:53:13 AM

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/08/28/donald-trump-poop-mural-hansky/

8/30/2015 11:21:37 AM

^^^
I wonder if in the general, will the democratic nominee be able to point these things out.

8/30/2015 1:23:42 PM

Lol

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/twenty-thousand-considered-disappointing-turnout-for-racist-event-in-alabama

8/31/2015 8:03:56 PM

New polls:

Iowa:

Quote :

"Trump 25, Carson 18, Cruz 7, Walker 6, Fiorina 5, Bush 10, Rubio 4, Huckabee 4, Paul 2, Kasich 3, Christie 2, Jindal 1, Santorum 1, Perry 1, Graham 0"

Nationwide:

Quote :

"Trump 29, Carson 15, Bush 9, Cruz 6, Rubio 7, Walker 5, Fiorina 8, Kasich 6, Huckabee 5, Christie 2, Paul 1, Santorum 2, Perry 1, Jindal 0, Pataki 0"

9/2/2015 3:02:30 PM

How about worldwide?

9/2/2015 3:13:15 PM

9/2/2015 4:00:58 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/09/02/marco-rubio-says-government-should-respect-kim-daviss-beliefs/?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

if this primary is a race to the bottom, Rubio is among the most willing to tie rocks around his ankles

9/2/2015 9:47:26 PM

^That's a shame for Republicans, he was the only one who had any chance of connecting with younger voters and bringing energy to the party.

9/6/2015 10:15:42 PM

Trump now leads all general election polls vs hillary sanders and biden.

9/7/2015 10:58:42 AM

ummmm.. . . Maybe one or two:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

9/7/2015 12:55:32 PM

Check the dates on those polls. Im talking about now, not august...

9/7/2015 1:00:31 PM

yeah. there's one poll that trump leads. What other polls are you referring to?

9/7/2015 3:33:04 PM

yeah. there's one poll that trump leads. What other polls are you referring to?

9/7/2015 3:33:04 PM

[Edited on September 7, 2015 at 3:33 PM. Reason : dbl]

9/7/2015 3:33:04 PM

Quote :

"General Election: Trump vs. Clinton SurveyUSA Clinton 40, Trump 45 Trump +5 General Election: Trump vs. Biden SurveyUSA Biden 42, Trump 44 Trump +2 General Election: Trump vs. Sanders SurveyUSA Sanders 40, Trump 44 Trump +4 Iowa: Trump vs. Clinton NBC/Marist Trump 48, Clinton 43 Trump +5"

though it's not "all," yet.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/

9/7/2015 3:36:45 PM

So around this time last election cycle, Romney had a double digit lead over Obama in the polls. He lost by 5 points while carrying only 23% of the Latino vote. The math for the GOP is pretty cut and dry, they need ~47% of the Latino vote to have a chance in 2016. If Donald is the nominee, well.....



[Edited on September 7, 2015 at 6:05 PM. Reason : .]

9/7/2015 6:03:57 PM

Romney got 61% of the white vote in 2012, if Trump could pull that up to 70%, he could win with very little minority voters.

It still seems unlikely this would happen, but Trump was never supposed to make it this far in the first place

9/7/2015 7:37:44 PM

^^^that's one general election poll

9/7/2015 7:55:28 PM

^^Yeah, Trump's definitely exceeded all expectations thus far. On the flip side, his opponents have been far worse than ever imagined, which is saying something because no one expected much from this field to begin with. Bush's failings have been well publicized, but what about Rubio and Walker? Those two absolutely withered under the national spotlight. Someone needs to put Romney on suicide watch, he would have absolutely mopped up with this field, and there's no Obama waiting for him in the general this time.

9/8/2015 10:05:25 AM

a Trump presidency would scare me less than a lot of the other candidates

9/8/2015 10:43:41 AM

What is the GOP strategy for picking up Main St. besides scaring to people to vote for them otherwise the terrorist/Iran are going to attack Amurica and rallying behind some fat bitch for not signing a gay marriage license (in the name of religious freedom )

Quote :

"sidential candidate Mike Huckabee visits Kim Davis in jail. Afterward, he'll lead an "#ImWithKim Liberty Rally" outside the Carter County Detention Center."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/08/politics/kim-davis-same-sex-marriage-kentucky/index.html

Quote :

""This agreement will give Iran the means to launch a nuclear attack on the U.S. homeland," Cheney said. "I know of no nation in history that has agreed to guarantee that the means of its own destruction will be in the hands of another nation, particularly one that is hostile.""

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/08/politics/dick-cheney-iran-speech-madness/index.html

Does Dick Cheney really believe that Iran is now going to blow up America or is this drum beating to scare average Joe to stick to the -R for the upcoming presidential election for their own Safety & Security.

[Edited on September 8, 2015 at 11:37 AM. Reason : s]

9/8/2015 11:27:17 AM

It's Dick Cheney trying to make people forget that the majority of Iran's nuclear infrastructure was built under his watch.

9/8/2015 11:42:32 AM

it's also worth pointing out that Halliburton sold technology to Iran while Cheney was the CEO. They setup off-shore subsidiaries to skirt US sanctions against Iran, and Cheney called Clinton's administration "sanction-happy"

Cheney is a movie-quality evil villain

[Edited on September 8, 2015 at 12:34 PM. Reason : also that he was VP because he protected Bush during Iran-Contra investigation]

9/8/2015 12:26:38 PM

^+1

9/8/2015 2:04:15 PM

Speaking of Iran, as of today Obama has the 41 votes he needs to avoid a veto entirely. Lame duck Presidency? More like a lame duck Senate majority.

9/8/2015 3:49:09 PM

Too bad republicans are too busy rallying behind some bitch against gay marriage and pounding their chest about Iran. I bet if a candidate spoke out against something like excessive CEO compensation they would really make a lot of supporters

i.e.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/08/news/companies/united-airlines-ceo/index.html

Quote :

"Jeff Smisek, the company's CEO and chairman, stepped down "in connection with the company's previously disclosed internal investigation related to the federal investigation associated with the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey," the company said in a statement Tuesday."

Quote :

"Smisek will walk away with a $4.8 million "separation payment" according to a public filing from the company. He'll remain eligible for his year-end bonus and will"

[Edited on September 8, 2015 at 7:58 PM. Reason : A]

9/8/2015 7:58:26 PM

But if you reduce the amount CEOs get paid then no one will strive to innovate and create jobs and everyone will live off the government. End of the free market... Freedom... America the strongest best nation on earth will be destroyed by a mundane financial rule or tax. Communists... Did I cover the thoughtless talking points?

Can I run for the Republican nomination now?

9/8/2015 8:36:31 PM

It's better to just ignore the idiots.

[Edited on September 8, 2015 at 9:07 PM. Reason : In this section at least]

9/8/2015 9:07:05 PM

Quote :

"if you reduce the amount CEOs get paid then no one will strive to innovate and create jobs and everyone will live off the government. End of the free market... Freedom... America the strongest best nation on earth will be destroyed by a mundane financial rule or tax. Communists... Did I cover the thoughtless talking points? Can I run for the Republican nomination now? "

Good Call. Just through in a couple "praise Jesus", "oh no gays are marrying", " rawr rawr Obama is a socialist", and ensure that you highlight that global climate change is part of the worldwide liberal socialist conspiracy to destroy the American Dream and you'll be all set!

[Edited on September 9, 2015 at 10:49 AM. Reason : a]

9/9/2015 10:48:51 AM