"You blacks are wrong, the Confederate flag is about heritage not racism"

6/20/2015 11:04:28 PM

6/20/2015 11:17:33 PM

6/21/2015 12:04:06 AM

6/21/2015 12:10:02 AM

Throw him in the booty bin

6/21/2015 12:46:03 AM

i like how obama doesn't want americans to have guns but is spending a billion a year to train and equip Syrians to kill each other.

http://www.hngn.com/articles/102553/20150619/pentagons-program-train-arm-syrian-rebels-experiences-delays.htm

6/21/2015 6:19:25 AM

Cool. Apples to apples.

Why is murder illegal. We killed Nazis in war!

And literally not once has Obama even hinted that he doesn't want Americans to have any guns. Beat that NRA drum though.

6/21/2015 6:58:47 AM

^obama literally said that Charleston happened because we have access to guns

Quote :

"innocent people were killed in part because someone who wanted to inflict harm had no trouble getting their hands on a gun."

6/21/2015 7:08:49 AM

So no one knew he was racist...but someone took all those pictures of him....

6/21/2015 7:10:27 AM

^naw. people knew about his plan but thought he was just talking shit while drunk

6/21/2015 7:24:43 AM

I don't think saying that kid had (who had a pending felony charge) had easy access to guns equals him saying no one should have guns.

I do agree with you, though, that no new regulation\law prevents this from happening likely.

6/21/2015 7:42:48 AM

The NRA won't even let us put guns into a database. This country is hopeless.

6/21/2015 8:54:24 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/man-accused-church-killings-spoke-attacking-college-070747803.html

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"A black drinking buddy of the white man accused of killing nine people at a Charleston church says the suspect told him a week earlier that he planned to shoot up a college campus in the city."

Quote :

""He just said he was going to hurt a bunch of people" at the College of Charleston, said Scriven, 22. "I said, 'What did you say? Why do you want to hurt those people in Charleston?'" He just said, "In seven days, they all got seven days.'""

6/21/2015 8:57:07 AM

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"^obama literally said that Charleston happened because we have access to guns Quote : "innocent people were killed in part because someone who wanted to inflict harm had no trouble getting their hands on a gun." "

No he literally said it was a contributing factor, you clearly quoted him not placing the blame solely on easy access to guns.

6/21/2015 8:57:12 AM

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"i like how obama doesn't want americans to have guns but is spending a billion a year to train and equip Syrians to kill each other."

Dang you really are chock fucking full of these poorly thought out analogies. And you just keep regurgitating them in thread after thread without any regard for how they make you look. That's true dedication to one's craft b.

6/21/2015 10:30:14 AM

^thanks. i try

6/21/2015 10:50:10 AM

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"innocent people were killed in part because someone who wanted to inflict harm had no trouble getting their hands on a gun."

you can have guns, it just needs to be a little troublesome to get one

6/21/2015 11:04:42 AM

He's being intentionally ignorant. I guess he feels like GOLO should have a voice, even though they can't be here to represent themselves.

6/21/2015 11:10:57 AM

we gotta have this


to protect ourselves from this


even if it leads to this


but the government wants to do this


and will try to promise this


but then we wouldn't be able to protect ourselves from this


which is fine as long as its protecting us from this

6/21/2015 1:36:54 PM

To be clear, GOLO was stripped from WRAL, and you have to comment using your Facebook credentials. Unfortunately, that hasn't stopped the diarrhea of the mouth from Alex Jones-types who, to this day, refuse to believe this was about race. It was funny and sad at first, but now it's just extremely annoying that people like that exist.

I tried to get through this dude's manifesto, but it's poorly written and boring. Same shit, different redneck, basically.

6/21/2015 2:03:22 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/21/joseph-riley-gun-control_n_7631162.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

Quote :

"Charleston Mayor Joseph Riley: Lack Of Gun Control Is 'Insane'"

So is flying the Confederate flag, but that doesn't stop you.

6/21/2015 2:42:06 PM

the mayor doesn't fly the flag.

6/21/2015 2:52:00 PM

What the fuck does the mayor of Charleston have to do with flying the confederate flag in Columbia?

Btw...love the way Charleston is responding to all of this. Really proud of my city right now.

6/21/2015 2:52:04 PM

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"Shaun King ?@ShaunKing 37m37 minutes ago Confederate statue in downtown Charleston tagged. "

[Edited on June 21, 2015 at 3:29 PM. Reason : a]

6/21/2015 3:28:38 PM

How else would they respond?

The killer wasnt let off if youre trying to compare it to furg or baltimore

6/21/2015 3:34:41 PM

Good, why is the south the only place on earth that publicly celebrates traitors. One of the most memorable pictures from the Iraq war was Suddam's statue being torn down. But the South (SC in particular) names streets, buildings etc and builds statues to celebrate their shit head dead leaders.

All of their confederate horse shit needs to be destroyed or moved into museums. It's a slap in the face to every minority.



Some body should hook a chain to that piece of shit and drag it through the streets.

6/21/2015 3:40:24 PM

Quality trolling there, BJ

6/21/2015 3:58:23 PM

He's not wrong though. It's an interesting phenomenon to me. Especially with such a high percentage of captain americas here who want to decide how we treat immigrants and what a true American is.

Fwiw, I don't have an issue with monuments to Confederate generals as much as I do symbols that were only brought back as a way to protest equality.

6/21/2015 6:11:44 PM

Also while we are talking about flags, lets go ahead and put Georgia and Mississippi on the list of states that need some "Black Lives Matter" rioting to fix their ignorance.

Mississippi State Flag





Georgia State Flag aka Original Confederate Flag



FUCK THE SOUTH

6/21/2015 7:00:38 PM

I bet blackjesus and nym turn around and celebrate on october 12th.

6/21/2015 7:59:16 PM

A SC republican congressman that was friends with the executed senator from the church has introduced a bill to remove the flag.

6/21/2015 8:41:32 PM

Shots about to be fired....

Confederate states were more than just about slavery. The "slavery" in the north was much worse than that of the south and just about gets swept under the rug because 1)denial and 2)indentured servitude was seen more as a social "pecking order" of classes rather than the master/slave (white owners with african slaves) structure in the south. It's been historically recorded that slaves in the south were treated better on average than those who were in the working class in the North. I'm not saying they had it easier in the south, but the typical liberal history book paints a the south as evil and the war fought for the wrong reasons.

By now, I don't see how generations of today's blacks are African anymore. We are all Americans here. You are the culture you live with, that you were born into, and that you associate closer with. You don't live in Africa anymore. Majority of blacks don't celebrate tribal beliefs or rituals of their ancestors. These people don't have African culture, they have American Culture. I wish blacks would stop playing the slavery card and the African-American card. Get rid of the division, stop drawing the line! Just be Amercian! I'm not English-Japanese-American, I'm just American. This goes the same with hispanics, or any other creed or color. You don't become Christian because you wear a Holy Cross. You are who you are because of what you believe in defined by the actions you make.

6/21/2015 9:17:22 PM

so that's all awful, but your first paragraph is just patently false

6/21/2015 9:26:38 PM

1st paragraph is so wrong I won't bother responding. 9 English-Japanese-Americans did not get murdered because they were light skinned. This man went into a church and killed 9 people because they had dark skin. How would you feel if we named a few streets after the guys in charge of the ww2 japanese internment camps? What if we erected some statues dedicated to these people?

You can't say black people need to stop playing the race card when its obvious that race matters in the country. Now if we stopped identifying people by races and everyone check American on a census I could understand you making that comment. But as long as the words African American are listed next to me and every other dark skin persons name you can't expect anyone to not point out that some shit is racist and wrong.

6/21/2015 9:34:01 PM

Racism in the north is just as bad as in the south. The winners write the history has proven true, as many try to forget that the north had slaves as well.

6/21/2015 9:34:26 PM

You're absolutely deluding yourself if you're convinced that slavery wasn't the reason for the civil war.

And yeah, as a whole, that post is complete dogshit.

I especially love that tired old bullshit "but the slaves were happy" bit. Wasn't that actually in Dylann's manifesto?

[Edited on June 21, 2015 at 9:36 PM. Reason : ^^^^]

6/21/2015 9:35:49 PM

There were about 7 different reasons for the civil war, and slavery was one of them. Anyone who thinks the civil war was only over slaverly is delusional, and didn't pay attention in US history.

6/21/2015 9:37:11 PM

The war was all about slavery (states rights to have slaves)....If the north had slaves how come slaves escaped the south to go north? Can someone point me to some respected sources were I can read about how the North fought a war to end slavery while having slaves...

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"While many still debate the ultimate causes of the Civil War, Pulitzer Prize-winning author James McPherson writes that, "The Civil War started because of uncompromising differences between the free and slave states over the power of the national government to prohibit slavery in the territories that had not yet become states. When Abraham Lincoln won election in 1860 as the first Republican president on a platform pledging to keep slavery out of the territories, seven slave states in the deep South seceded and formed a new nation, the Confederate States of America. The incoming Lincoln administration and most of the Northern people refused to recognize the legitimacy of secession. They feared that it would discredit democracy and create a fatal precedent that would eventually fragment the no-longer United States into several small, squabbling countries.""

http://www.civilwar.org/education/history/faq/

I stopped paying attention in white history class in like 9th grade so pardon my ignorance on white history.

[Edited on June 21, 2015 at 9:40 PM. Reason : , ]

6/21/2015 9:38:51 PM

Right, the north had indentured servitude, where you were only a slave for 7 years, give or take....

Since you skipped out "white history" I won't bother trying to teach you about it.
We can summarize a few of the topics as States Rights, Equal representation, industrial revolution, fair trade....

6/21/2015 9:52:47 PM

Why are we even debating this. 9 Black people just got shot because they were black and some racist southern buffoon thought he was restarting the civil war.

The south lost, and its now time to erase that shit stain of a flag from American history.

6/21/2015 10:00:23 PM

So, does Hiro go into the "good guys with guns" category, or nah?


Because part of what he is saying seems to share some commonalities with the manifesto of Roof... Really the part about Blacks just needing to get over it


[Edited on June 21, 2015 at 10:02 PM. Reason : I]

6/21/2015 10:00:34 PM

rawr rawr rawr you blacks need to shut up, thats the past rawr rawr rawr

I wish everyone with that mentality could spend a year as a black person.

6/21/2015 10:03:53 PM

Hiro would be shot to death on his very first day as a black person as he exercised his 2nd amendment rights.

6/21/2015 10:08:08 PM

Hey black people, all of you that run to SC beaches for bike week and vacations. STOP. I've never spent a penny in that state and will not until I can cross from NC to SC and not see a symbol of hatred.

There's 2 things memorable about driving down 95 to SC, South of the border followed by a confederate flag at the state line.

FUCK YOU SC

6/21/2015 10:34:23 PM

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"7 different reasons for the civil war, and slavery was one of them."

Obviously there were other disagreements, but the argument over slavery HUGELY the largest one. You can all it "states rights" all ya want, but the primary "states right" de jour then was slavery, particularly the north's opposition to the south's efforts to expand slavery into the western territories.

Quote :

"While many still debate the ultimate causes of the Civil War, Pulitzer Prize-winning author James McPherson writes that, "The Civil War started because of uncompromising differences between the free and slave states over the power of the national government to prohibit slavery in the territories that had not yet become states. When Abraham Lincoln won election in 1860 as the first Republican president on a platform pledging to keep slavery out of the territories, seven slave states in the deep South seceded and formed a new nation, the Confederate States of America. The incoming Lincoln administration and most of the Northern people refused to recognize the legitimacy of secession. They feared that it would discredit democracy and create a fatal precedent that would eventually fragment the no-longer United States into several small, squabbling countries.""

http://www.civilwar.org/education/history/faq

Quote :

"The primary cause of secession was slavery, especially Southern anger at the attempts by Northern antislavery political forces to block the expansion of slavery into the western territories. Southern politicians held that such restrictions on slavery would violate the principle of states' rights."

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"As a panel of historians emphasized in 2011, "while slavery and its various and multifaceted discontents were the primary cause of disunion, it was disunion itself that sparked the war."[3] States' rights was entirely a matter in regards to the protection of slavery. The issue of tariffs was so unimportant that the groups looking for some sort of compromise did not even consider it."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_the_American_Civil_War

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"The burning issue that led to the disruption of the union, however, was the debate over the future of slavery. That dispute led to secession, and secession brought about a war in which the Northern and Western states and territories fought to preserve the Union, and the South fought to establish Southern independence as a new confederation of states under its own constitution."

http://www.historynet.com/causes-of-the-civil-war

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"Because part of what he is saying seems to share some commonalities with the manifesto of Roof... Really the part about Blacks just needing to get over it"

That's the part you noticed...not the part about the slaves being happy[ier than the ones in the north]?



[Edited on June 21, 2015 at 10:53 PM. Reason : ]

6/21/2015 10:40:04 PM

Nah, honestly, there was too much wrong with his post. So, I commented on a part that no one else had commented on/other parts had been addressed already

6/21/2015 10:41:54 PM

^^^ best two things to come out of SC: I-95 and I-85

[Edited on June 21, 2015 at 10:44 PM. Reason : ´]

6/21/2015 10:44:03 PM

http://www.theroot.com/articles/news/2015/06/south_carolina_state_rep_norman_brannon_to_introduce_bill_to_remove_confederate.html

Republican law maker will introduce Bill removing the flag, feels bad he didn't do it sooner.

6/21/2015 11:55:22 PM

- That statue says "defenders of Charleston," which I find confusing since they were the aggressors of Charleston/Fort Sumter.

- They should remove that flag from government land

- The slaves were treated better than one group of people, and that's the infantry they got to fight their stupid war.

- lol at this maximadrvr. Dude's just scared the gov'ment's gonna take away some gun rights over this.

6/21/2015 11:59:41 PM

Hiro, there is no history book that paints the South as "evil" or downplays conditions for workers in the North. That's dumb, dude.

MaximaDrvr, there were a number of ways folks extended indentured servitude contracts well beyond 7 years. Many of those workers did not come voluntarily and often wound up in the Caribbean, which was largely a death sentence.


Regardless, I don't know what indentured servitude has to do with anything, as it was generally phased out in favor of slavery and wage labor. I think Hiro's just misinformed and perhaps a little fatigued.

I dunno...one more BlackJesus post, and I might start spewing crazy nonsense: EVERYBODY KNOWS THE BLACKS ARE BETTER OFF HERE THAN BACK IN AFRICA!!! THEY SHOULD BE GRATEFUL!!!

6/22/2015 1:51:58 AM