Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
I just gave them a call and asked. They said it can matter a lot. 3/21/2022 3:17:14 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
I just texted Russia and they confirmed weather can play a factor, too.
[Edited on March 21, 2022 at 3:46 PM. Reason : I DMed Germany on IG, but haven't heard back...] 3/21/2022 3:42:27 PM |
utowncha All American 900 Posts user info edit post |
apparently we are using a lot of the soviet crap weve acquired over the decades, such as the sa-8, sa-10... i wonder how big of a stockpile we have beyond what our intelligence services examine? 3/21/2022 4:16:36 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
What do you mean we're using that? 3/21/2022 6:20:29 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26098 Posts user info edit post |
Yes, who is we?
Wait, I think he's referring to this:
https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/u-s-sending-soviet-air-defense-systems-it-secretly-acquired-to-ukraine-11647878422] 3/21/2022 6:54:30 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i knew what he meant.
i, too, wonder how large our stockpiles of their stuff are.
I would assume that we are keeping plenty for our own use. 3/21/2022 10:27:20 PM |
utowncha All American 900 Posts user info edit post |
sorry, i should have said "sending" not using. i guess maybe we use the old radars and stuff for aggressor training? trigger the RWRs in friendly planes during exercises maybe?
but how many missiles could we possibly have? 3/22/2022 6:32:27 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
Ok I have to admit, I'm a little worried now that he's shown the world he has a missile that can't be intercepted. I guess our intelligence has always known this, but it's news to me. 3/22/2022 10:24:34 AM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "he has a missile that can't be intercepted" |
Hypersonic missiles can probably be intercepted with some accuracy. However, with nukes, it's always been a number game, even if we shoot down 95% of the Russian missile arsenal and they shoot down 95% of ours, it's still game over for the world.3/22/2022 11:02:23 AM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26098 Posts user info edit post |
Not for cockroaches and tardigrades. 3/22/2022 6:51:57 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
Sorry, you're correct. It'll be game over for this iteration of humanity 3/22/2022 7:13:29 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26098 Posts user info edit post |
Well, we had a good (horrific) run, though! 3/22/2022 7:32:23 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
So all the headlines today were talking about how Biden announced that Russians have committed war crimes.
Ok.
My question is this - how is the invasion itself not a war crime? Ukraine was minding its own business when all of a sudden big bully Russia is like "I want your lunch money and I'm going to take it." And then it does. Or tries to, thus killing lots of innocent civilians in the process.
But what if they hadn't killed a single civilian...what if they'd only killed members of another country's army? Is that cool? What are the rules here? You can invade another country as long as you don't kill civilians?
The invasion itself is a fucking war crime!
[Edited on March 23, 2022 at 10:03 PM. Reason : s] 3/23/2022 10:02:52 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
You can't call the act of war itself a crime, that gives away the game 3/23/2022 10:25:47 PM |
GrumpyGOP yovo yovo bonsoir 18191 Posts user info edit post |
The short and simple answer is that the United States has invaded countries under similarly dubious pretexts and would like to continue having that option in the future. Prosecuting this invasion as a war crime would invite the same for U.S. political and military actors. Sure, nothing would really come of it, but it's one step too far into hypocrisy.
"Crimes against peace" was also one of the flimsier charges to come out of Nuremberg. It's one thing to say "You can't murder everyone." But effectively banning war is tantamount to castrating the state in matters of foreign policy. It's not really practical. 3/23/2022 10:32:40 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
/r/GenZedong has been been quarantined on reddit. daaave must be in shambles 3/24/2022 8:31:53 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
I just want to know who decided to dive in and argue with horosho (I assume, maybe dtr?) on reddit tww 3/24/2022 9:00:41 AM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
lol wasn't me, I didn't realize tww was active on reddit 3/24/2022 9:07:35 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
It wasn’t until 3 days ago 3/24/2022 9:09:50 AM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "We should be pressuring Zelensky to accept Russias terms and negotiate peace through diplomacy while also providing him leverage through written assurances of an end to NATO expansion. Instead of trying to end the conflict, we are encouraging a bloody fight taking a “scorched earth” approach— pumping weapons into the losing side prolongs the conflict=more death and destruction and more potential for escalation." |
That post reeks of the same bullshit daaave was spouting though.3/24/2022 9:12:09 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think he's been suspended. And he isn't generally as angry as the others (especially dtr) tended to be 3/24/2022 9:16:04 AM |
daaave Suspended 1331 Posts user info edit post |
Not suspended, just not posting as much because I can't comment without being aggressively attacked by bbehe. Note that I haven't posted in almost two weeks and he's still making weird comments about me. And no that's not me on reddit.
[Edited on March 24, 2022 at 11:22 AM. Reason : .] 3/24/2022 11:19:33 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
It's the same with me and TGL. I swear sometimes I think he just waits on me to post something. I could say "Joe Biden is the third greatest president that ever lived" and get questioned as to why I didn't say the second or first.
But he's never been aggressive. 3/24/2022 11:34:09 AM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
"Aggressively attacked"
Nah man, Ukrainian hospital and schools are the ones being aggressively attacked. 3/24/2022 11:53:07 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
^^ that just isn’t true
I take issue with the party that you’ve been affiliated with for as long as you’ve been posting on this board
you have a history of parroting things that the right has said for years, and I have a history of responding to those talking points 3/24/2022 12:10:18 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
Mentioning someone that hasn't been posting is maybe a level past responding to posts (not that the former is bad necessarily)
There's like 20 regular posters here and maybe 5 active threads at any one time. if someone regularly posts after you it's usually bc they are around in general. People lately have gotten the idea that responding to posts equals obsession. 3/24/2022 12:28:34 PM |
daaave Suspended 1331 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I forgot, the resident tankie is probably delighted about this." |
Quote : | ""Hey, I'm not happy she got raped, but it was inevitable because of the way she was dressed" - Daaaaaave" |
Quote : | "I wonder if Daaaaaaaaaave thinks the Belarusian government is legitimate or not." |
Quote : | "Considering how well informed the rest of your opinions are..." |
Quote : | "Daave is upset because he doesn't think giving aid to the Ukranians to defend themselves from the people bombing their maternity hospitals is correct." |
Quote : | "You would think that because of your incredibly naive view of world politics." |
Quote : | "Daave also thinks rape victims should "lay back and try to enjoy it" to not prolong the inevitable." |
Quote : | ""Fuck the Ukrainians and their freedom of self determination" - daave
Jesus christ, you really do blame rape victims don't you?" |
Quote : | "daaave hoping Russia blows up a couple more hospitals to teach NATO a lesson." |
Quote : | "/r/GenZedong has been been quarantined on reddit. daaave must be in shambles" |
Quote : | "That post reeks of the same bullshit daaave was spouting though." |
Idk why this kind of thing has always been acceptable here but I do know it's why a lot of normal people have left.3/24/2022 1:05:43 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""Daave is upset because he doesn't think giving aid to the Ukranians to defend themselves from the people bombing their maternity hospitals is correct."" |
Where's the lie? You've fully admitted that your opinion is Ukraine is lost and should be an example for other countries not to join NATO
[Edited on March 24, 2022 at 1:27 PM. Reason : a]3/24/2022 1:25:41 PM |
utowncha All American 900 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "People lately have gotten the idea that responding to posts equals obsession." |
lol. this obsessed dumb motherfucker cant even resist needling me when responding to daaaves whiny crap. OK-
responding to posts only becomes obsession when those posts are in different locations yet the topic remains the same... "poor messageboard etiquette." maybe obsession is too strong a word since i dont post here often enough... but it still gets annoying when the comments appear like clockwork.
you might have even had a point [rwoody] if 1) anybody cared or 2) your complaints were legible. i dont want to play grammar nazi but i will if you keep being a fucking pest. you cant spell and sometimes you even write shit out of order when you get worked up. the hypocrisy in condescending to my writing... just wow.
It would be like if he were critiquing my lax capitalization here in this post and saying something like "Man it's hard to undrestand you in a thred when you write don't properly, know you?"
anyway, i dont really get it. it seems to me we agree on most things, like here and the trans sports thread, but you just dont like my style. i need to go to TWW 101 and learn how to be a good Netizen?
fuck all that and fuck you; stupid old piece of shit. rwoody is a fucking boomer and i bet his old ass is sitting in class right now, probably a substitute teacher or some fucking thing, posting here and on reddit. i hope his dumb ass gets fired when his boss looks over his shoulder and sees one of Walter's threads.
can you imagine frequenting this forum when you attended college in god damn 1980 or whatever? holy shit no wonder this old motherfucker is always confused.3/24/2022 3:01:49 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
3/24/2022 3:11:57 PM |
utowncha All American 900 Posts user info edit post |
feel free it keep it to me yourself. 3/24/2022 3:17:21 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
So uh,
Once again I stand in awe of how poorly this is going for Putin. Even the low side of the Russian casualty estimates is terrible. 3/24/2022 8:31:22 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
Terrible is an understatement.
They have taken more of a beating in one month than we did in all of Iraq and Afghanistan combined. 3/24/2022 10:39:21 PM |
HaLo All American 14263 Posts user info edit post |
Seriously. The miscalculations that have occurred are incredible. A land war in Europe starting in February?!? Jesus Christ what a bad idea 3/24/2022 11:03:40 PM |
StTexan Suggestions??? 7148 Posts user info edit post |
What is the best case scenario, realistically, for Ukraine? 3/24/2022 11:57:29 PM |
HaLo All American 14263 Posts user info edit post |
Keep their country??? 3/25/2022 12:29:47 AM |
StTexan Suggestions??? 7148 Posts user info edit post |
More along the lines promise to never join Nato, recognizing Russias declaration of independent states in Ukraines east? Or is that a given? 3/25/2022 12:56:30 AM |
HaLo All American 14263 Posts user info edit post |
Keep their country with none of that bullshit??? 3/25/2022 1:21:26 AM |
StTexan Suggestions??? 7148 Posts user info edit post |
I said realistically 3/25/2022 1:25:21 AM |
HaLo All American 14263 Posts user info edit post |
Why is that not realistic? 3/25/2022 1:36:47 AM |
StTexan Suggestions??? 7148 Posts user info edit post |
This isn’t the 80’s? 3/25/2022 1:58:41 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
3/25/2022 2:47:28 AM |
GrumpyGOP yovo yovo bonsoir 18191 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What is the best case scenario, realistically, for Ukraine?" |
You've basically outlined it. Ukraine is already laying the groundwork for abandoning the pursuit of NATO membership. I don't see Putin conceding territory he's already taken and held for years, so some recognition of Donbas/Crimea is going to have to happen. Then Russia leaves and the West pours development money into Ukraine. That will be a mixed blessing unless Zelensky is willing and able to use his demigod status to smash corruption, but it's better than "now we're part of Russia."
I don't think "keep their country with none of that bullshit" is feasible. I know the narrative here is that Ukraine has been whooping wholesale ass on Russia, which can't seem to do anything right. But you'll notice that we hear a lot about Russian casualties and materiel losses, but almost nothing about Ukraine's. Part of that is propaganda, part of it is the difficulty in gathering information while fighting for your life. I get it. But what information we have suggests that the Ukrainian armed forces have also suffered heavy losses. This war can end in a Ukrainian strategic victory - at this point I think it's the most likely outcome - but it won't end with Ukraine dictating terms. Putin can't allow that because he wouldn't survive it.3/25/2022 10:31:35 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "?? CNN: US, EU announce task force to reduce Europe’s dependence on Russian oil, gas.
“The United States will work towards supplying Europe with at least 15 billion cubic meters of liquified natural gas in 2022, in partnership with other nations,” the White House said." |
3/25/2022 11:54:44 AM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
I'm ready for a Nuclear Power resurgence. 3/25/2022 1:23:01 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26098 Posts user info edit post |
Harry Reid is dead. Can we reopen Yucca Mountain now?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yucca_Mountain_nuclear_waste_repository 3/25/2022 2:09:28 PM |
utowncha All American 900 Posts user info edit post |
you are more likely to be storing nuclear waste under disney world in the future than you are yucca mountain. they need to recoup some of the money they wasted there by selling it as some billionaire apocalypse bunker.
if it was even on the table harry reid would rise from the dead like jesus and start appearing to democrats around the country, disciple-style. 3/25/2022 2:18:26 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26098 Posts user info edit post |
Russia says Phase 1 is now over, guys!
] 3/25/2022 6:38:09 PM |
StTexan Suggestions??? 7148 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " But what information we have suggests that the Ukrainian armed forces have also suffered heavy losses." |
Please share this info3/26/2022 2:23:21 AM |
GrumpyGOP yovo yovo bonsoir 18191 Posts user info edit post |
The most recent estimate that Zelensky gave was on March 12, and said about 1,300 Ukrainian soldiers had been killed. That's two weeks ago and was undoubtedly a low-ball figure. More telling than the number is how little it's being talked about and how difficult it is to get any estimate out of anybody, which hints that the picture must not be very rosy - if Ukrainian losses were astonishingly light, they'd be more open about it, especially in comparison to the staggering Russian losses. 3/26/2022 12:08:40 PM |