can someone get their hands on a list of these apps leaking GPS info and sending my phone number to their servers?

and are there any "firewall" type programs for android in the works that will let you grant selective permissions to apps or ask you every time the app wants to send a GPS signal that you haven't prompted it to, etc.?

http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2010/09/some-android-apps-found-to-covertly-send-gps-data-to-advertisers.ars

9/30/2010 8:47:15 AM

found it : http://appanalysis.org/tdroid10.pdf

page 9

fuck my life.

waiting for taintdroid to come out - they say it'll be open source and released soon.

9/30/2010 9:07:22 AM

^^no, but you should mention it to the open-source DroidWall as a feature.

New Google Phone Gallery for comparing all the Android phones:
http://www.google.com/phone

9/30/2010 11:03:08 AM

hmm...I always thought Dolphin seemed faster than the others.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/206278/battle_of_the_android_browsers.html




And lol, verizon has a new trade-in program and the Eris and Incredible are valued higher than the Droid X and Droid 2. wtf?

http://www.droid-life.com/2010/09/30/verizon-launches-trade-in-program-incredible-worth-more-than-droid-x/
* Droid 1: $52
* Droid 2: $72
* Droid X: $124
* Droid Eris: $132
* Incredible: $152
* Fascinate: $172

9/30/2010 11:06:48 AM

So the Incredible has only been out for a few months. If people were to trade that in towards a DX or something, they would have to pay the ETF too right?

9/30/2010 11:50:26 AM

Apparently you send your phone in and they mail you a gift card for the amount and you could then apply that to the full retail cost of another device if you're not eligible to upgrade.

9/30/2010 11:56:42 AM

f- a full retail price

9/30/2010 12:18:21 PM

Samsung Continuum
some sort of weird dual screen version of the Fascinate.

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/09/30/new-hi-res-images-info-on-verizons-samsung-continuum/

9/30/2010 9:24:09 PM

I don't know but most I think the incredible is a better phone than the X and Droid 2. It makes sense to me for it to be valued higher.

10/1/2010 12:09:26 AM

^in what ways?

10/1/2010 9:01:02 AM

i was looking at the AT&T Captivate last night. think i might finally go ahead and trade in my iphone 3G

10/1/2010 9:40:04 AM

^^^yeh how so?

10/1/2010 11:31:00 AM

yeah, I'm questioning that one too. Aside from having Sense, there really is nothing better about the incredible than the others.


Welp, the buy a Fascinate get any phone free has ended but now Verizon is doing a buy an Incredible and get any phone free.

10/1/2010 3:29:18 PM

Random question -- I don't ever watch Nascar, but I'm going to a race (family member is on crew) and didn't want to pay $30 for a scanner... anyone know of any Android app that will do in-car audio or play an ASX stream from Nascar.com Trackpass? They don't have an app I can see for any other phone other than Sprint phones.

10/1/2010 3:50:54 PM

^yeh, that would be cool. I'm guessing nascar radios are already streamed over the net?

10/1/2010 4:03:45 PM

only on Nascar.com Trackpass (subscription) that i've found...

their mobile site doesn't allow you to use their scanner audio on you phone and the online version uses a media player plugin to stream via .asx format.

[Edited on October 1, 2010 at 4:55 PM. Reason : .]

10/1/2010 4:54:45 PM

Finally getting around to switching our plans over at work and picking up new phones. Other than the extra .3" of screen size, is there any real benefit to the X over the Fascinate? I'm not too worried about Bing since I can root or switch once 2.2 rolls around. Battery life seems to go both ways though. Some say it's worse than the X & some say it's better. The only thing that really makes me want the X is the soft-touch back (hate hate hate glossy backs) & the car kit.

10/1/2010 5:27:17 PM

I like the fascinate over the X primarily because of the lower profile of the fascinate. I have zero complaints about battery life on the fascinate. If glossy backs really bug you it's going to bug you lots on the fascinate.

10/1/2010 5:43:40 PM

Just get a case to go on it. I have the case/holster combo and like it. Granted the back isn't nearly as finger print friendly as the front.

10/1/2010 6:04:15 PM

better camera
vibrant amoled screen
3.7 inch screen size is the sweet spot imo
some consider Sense a positive (I personally don't care for it and use Cyanogenmod)
non-glossy back, with a nice topographic back cover.


I just feel like HTC makes high quality phones thats all.

10/1/2010 9:36:34 PM

I picked up a Captivate tonight and my wife got an iphone4

maybe its just the fact that ive been on the ipjone since v1, but the android interface seems really clunky to me in a lot of ways. Maybe i'll get used it...



What apps should i get

[Edited on October 1, 2010 at 11:05 PM. Reason : ?]

10/1/2010 11:04:07 PM

^^Well new Incredibles don't have the AMOLED screen, and the AMOLED that the Incredible got, unlike the one in the Galaxy S phones, doesn't offer as much brightness in broad daylight. Personally, while the Super-AMOLED in the Galaxy S phones are IMO the best screen in the market, I'll take a S-TFTLCD over the regular AMOLEDs.

^if you don't like the interface and want something that feels lighter, check out a home replacement like:
-LiveHome http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWjBlckhJ40 (video is silly, but the best I could find)
-ADW Launcher http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5gRgpuQE_k (actually a solid video)
-Launcher Pro http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S4PjPTCueQ (another solid video)

Of those 3 I prefer ADW Launcher.

[Edited on October 1, 2010 at 11:39 PM. Reason : asd]

10/1/2010 11:33:07 PM

Has anyone with 2.2 on their DX been able to set up a pattern lock (or password lock or any other lock) on their phone without also having to use the slide bar page?

I can't get one without the other

10/2/2010 12:22:36 AM

I think you have to turn off the lockscreen and then turn on pattern lock. I remember having that issue when I was trying pattern lock out.

[Edited on October 2, 2010 at 12:54 AM. Reason : weird i can't find where to turn off the lockscreen anymore ]

[Edited on October 2, 2010 at 12:58 AM. Reason : looks like they removed that option in 2.2, pretty lames]

10/2/2010 12:46:55 AM

It begins. Now it needs to get leaked for the Fascinate.
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-captivate-froyo-leaked

10/2/2010 7:38:21 AM

ugh. i've been playing with this new Captivate since last night. still can't decide if i want to return it and get an iphone4. no push notifications for facebook/twitter? :\ how long do i have to wait for the push notifications in 2.2 to become commonplace

10/2/2010 2:19:06 PM

^ we use C2DM at work and it's extremely reliable (as much as APNs) - although officially it's in beta status which doesn't mean too much in google's world

i'm surprised more apps don't support it already

10/2/2010 2:57:36 PM

^^facebook app sucks but is getting better.

10/2/2010 7:36:33 PM

i got all excited when i heard AndCAD was released yesterday but it can only open dxf files not dwg and even that is in beta status...

10/2/2010 10:28:04 PM

Windows Phone 7 FTW!!

10/3/2010 9:45:01 AM

as it seems im in the minority of users here, anyone have an opinion on GSM offerings?
my requirements are 800mhz+, slider keyboard, and quad-band. I'm looking at the htc g2 from tmobile, droid 2 world edition, and the evo slider whenever that comes out. I might end up waiting for a win7 offering if the gsm slider market takes much longer

10/3/2010 9:47:09 AM

WP& is gonna crush the market. That's opinionated fact.

10/3/2010 10:04:55 AM

^^If slider is a requirement the only real GSM option right now is the G2. The G2 is a very impressive phone.

10/3/2010 7:08:51 PM

I can't wait to order my Incredible this week

10/3/2010 7:20:43 PM

Quote :

"ugh. i've been playing with this new Captivate since last night. still can't decide if i want to return it and get an iphone4. no push notifications for facebook/twitter? :\ how long do i have to wait for the push notifications in 2.2 to become commonplace "

I just got a new iPod Touch, and after the past year with my Droid and 2.2, i'd say you'll probably be happier with an iPhone 4 if AT&T is a feasible option for you.

The free apps for iOS are better, and i haven't run across something the Droid can do yet that the iPod can't.

10/3/2010 7:22:42 PM

moron is also a huge Apple fanboy, so be sure to take that statement with a grain of salt.

10/3/2010 8:30:10 PM

Apple sucks. iTunes and iPods can hardly manage music properly and in a user friendly way. Sure, they're nice and polished, they look pretty, but they truly are horrible POSs.

10/4/2010 10:22:02 AM

I just came in here to say, I used the NFL mobile app (VZW only) and watched the NFL game live last night on my road trip to KC (I-70) and was able to watch the entire game on my phone while my wife drived. It was awesome.

[Edited on October 4, 2010 at 10:39 AM. Reason : game sucked though]

10/4/2010 10:39:29 AM

^Don't you have to pay for that VCAST crap to watch the live games? How much is that?

10/4/2010 3:02:09 PM

Quote :

"NFL Mobile includes news, scores, statistics and streaming audio with your data feature or plan. Video content included with your data plan or feature through 8/31. A $10 VCAST Video on Demand subscription is required to view video content. Available on select 3G Smartphones"

I know it says this, but I haven't seen a Vcast $10 charge on my data plan yet, and I've watched Thursday night & Sunday night games all September.

So long as you have a data plan and an Android-powered phone with VZW, it should work.

No Vcast crap here.

[Edited on October 4, 2010 at 3:14 PM. Reason : .]

10/4/2010 3:10:09 PM

Quote :

"Apple sucks. iTunes and iPods can hardly manage music properly and in a user friendly way. Sure, they're nice and polished, they look pretty, but they truly are horrible POSs."

I feel bad for anybody that judges an entire product line, no wait, an entire company based on one piece of software.

Granted, it is one shitty piece of software, but it's still possible to enjoy their products without letting iTunes completely ruin the experience.

I couldn't care less if you actually prefer an Android device over an Apple one, but at least try not to base your opinion on pure ignorance.

10/4/2010 3:16:39 PM

^It's not, but I don't feel the need to expand much more. Every Apple product I've tried (which is limited to iPods and a few of their laptops and a little play on iPhones) has resulted in a fairly disappointing experience for me. Sure others love them and have great experiences... but in mine they have sucked.

iPods/iTunes/maybe the iPhone/iPad is/are horrible for music management. The laptops I've tried all felt like kids toys that were slow and clunky. And though I haven't seen a lot of CAD work produced from Apples/Macs, what I have seen (from a Mac equivalent of AutoCAD) was disgusting... maybe it was the user, I don't know, but good lord I thought I was looking at some archives.


[Edited on October 4, 2010 at 3:31 PM. Reason : .]

10/4/2010 3:29:41 PM

People who use CAD don't draft on Apple... there's never been a need for a good CAD program on Apple. If you need CAD, virtualize it. Besides, the CAD software made for Apple computers isn't even MADE by Apple. Not a good example.

[Edited on October 4, 2010 at 3:43 PM. Reason : .]

10/4/2010 3:43:14 PM

so a friend with froyo (leaked) on his captivate says it clears up a bunch of problems... I am still wondering when I will get it on the epic. Samsung and Sprint said by the end of September, but here I am... WAITING!!

10/4/2010 7:03:04 PM

Quote :

" Every Apple product I've tried (which is limited to iPods and a few of their laptops and a little play on iPhones) has resulted in a fairly disappointing experience for me. Sure others love them and have great experiences... but in mine they have sucked."

You're right, the iPod's humble starts as an over-priced, Mac OS only mp3 player that Windows users desperately clamored for and wrote hacks to use, to the dominant standard for MP3 players are because it's such a horrible device.

Do you remember smart phones before iOS? Do you remember how absolutely horrible Windows Mobile was? Or the Palm OS? Or even Android OS, pre-iOS? If it wasn't for Apple showing others how to do it, these half-decent alternatives wouldn't even exist.

iTunes biggest flaw was always that it's a little slow, but it's always had good music management features (that get better with new releases for the most part). The latest version is a bit snappier than the previous version too.

You can't argue that Apple hasn't set the standard in most areas, when it comes to portable devices.

Google's doing a lot of things right with Android, and it's a great competitor, but by the nature of the hardware and software fragmentation for Android, iOS is, for the foreseeable future, going to have a better end-user experience for most consumers. You might not be a part of this group, but you sound like a bitter, old grandpa if you don't understand why Apple's iDevices have taken off.

Quote :

"People who use CAD don't draft on Apple... there's never been a need for a good CAD program on Apple. If you need CAD, virtualize it. Besides, the CAD software made for Apple computers isn't even MADE by Apple. Not a good example."

Apple was actually one of the release platforms for AutoCAD, and remained a main platform for at least 10 years after that. The current state though is pretty bad, despite the existence of a handful of competent apps on OS X.

10/4/2010 8:12:36 PM

^ are you angry at Google?

10/4/2010 9:05:43 PM

^ no?

I <3 Google

10/4/2010 9:15:58 PM

Quote :

"iTunes biggest flaw was always that it's ungodly slow, unresponsive, crashes constantly, sucks at finding album art, takes a year and a day to sync with devices, and fails miserably at working with anything that Apple doesn't directly sell you, including pictures and video you take with the phone."

But other than that!

[Edited on October 4, 2010 at 11:09 PM. Reason : I fixed your post from earlier.]

10/4/2010 11:09:07 PM

Instead of getting into the tired apple debate I'll sum up my feelings:
-Android > iOS
-iPods are overpriced, you can get better MP3 players for cheaper. IMO
-iTunes is worthless.

Carry on.

The Moto Cliq might finally get 2.1 before long, I think the maintenance upgrade they're doing is to prepare for it.

10/4/2010 11:11:05 PM

^^ you're right! the Android eco system is waay better at those things, right?

10/4/2010 11:52:48 PM