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3/23/2009 9:29:15 PM

Maybe your fairweather ass should cheer for Chapel Hill. Those motherfuckers got like eleven stars a piece. You seem like the kind of fan that would fit in better over there.

3/23/2009 9:29:48 PM

I probably should cheer for them. They actually put a decent product on the floor.

3/23/2009 9:35:58 PM

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=1159193

OMG THIS GUY ONLY HAZ LEIK 3 STARZ HE'S GONNA TOTALLY SUCK IN COLLEGE!!

3/23/2009 9:36:39 PM

AND THIS GUY HAS 2!!! HE'LL NEVER AMOUNT TO ANYTHING IN THE ACC!!!!!1ONE

http://bostoncollege.scout.com/a.z?s=165&p=8&c=1&nid=1157000

3/23/2009 9:38:10 PM

THESE 2 STAR GUYS WILL NEVER EVER MAKE IT!!!!!!!!!!

http://miami.scout.com/a.z?s=13&p=8&c=1&nid=1015006

3/23/2009 9:44:55 PM

http://clemson.scout.com/a.z?s=46&p=8&c=1&nid=1074366

WUT????

3/23/2009 9:47:55 PM

^Just because you can cite 2 examples doesn't change the fact that 99% of 2 stars wouldn't contribute in the ACC.

3/23/2009 9:48:32 PM

so that makes it okay to take a shit on some kid who hasn't even been able to prove himself in a college game?

makes sense to me

3/23/2009 9:50:16 PM

quad-post suspend!

3/23/2009 9:51:09 PM

No it doesn't but is does validate people's worries over his ability to contribute.

3/23/2009 9:51:15 PM

^stars don't mean shit. there's a guy who is widely thought to be one of the top players in the 2010 class who is only a 3 star player thanks to the year of AAU ball he missed.

3/23/2009 9:53:15 PM

It is not like he hasn't been scouted though, most people have pegged him as a low level prospect. The difference with the 2010 you are talking about is that if he is as good as you say he is he will still get offers regardless of his 3 stars.

3/23/2009 9:57:08 PM

Steph Curry is gonna be garbage, so is his brother, why would a big school waste a scholarship on those losers

^^exactly...and reggie bush is an NFL hall of fame lock and Ryan Leaf is the QB of the future

Walter won this page though

[Edited on March 23, 2009 at 10:00 PM. Reason : .]

3/23/2009 9:59:51 PM

We shouldn't have taken two-stars in football either.....i mean, Russel Wilson has done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for us

3/23/2009 9:59:56 PM

i vote we lock this for a day until the shit-storm subsides

3/23/2009 10:00:23 PM

This has already been stated but in college bball everyone knows who the best players are 99% of the time. The fact that the same 2-3 names keep popping up when people try to prove the exception to the norm is evidence of this.

3/23/2009 10:01:58 PM

ratings in basketball are much more legit than football. but if that kid is still growing and learning how to use his new height and weight, i would think he could be good. who knows, we probably won't for about 2 years anyways.

also, AD Vassallo was a 3 star player. turned out pretty good.

3/23/2009 10:03:17 PM

^^there's still a chance davis is placed and reclassifies, he's considered a bit of a sleeper because he's grown a lot lately and is considered to be very athletic, a solid defender, and has a solid inside game.

that top 2010 recruit won't get many more offers because he's already committed somewhere and has been for almost a year now, but he's considered to be one of the top players in one of the top basketball areas in the nation even as a junior, and one of the best players in the nation for the 2010 class.

3/23/2009 10:04:00 PM

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"This has already been stated but in college bball everyone knows who the best players are 99% of the time."

everyone knows who the best 10-20 players are, or even the best 40-50 players

everything after that is a crapshoot

you think test scores are indicative of intelligence? what about the geniuses with no motivation? i'm not saying davis is gonna be the next DT, but with the exception of the "can't miss" top 5-10 players each year, some of whom miss, theres no fucking telling how players will pan out

[Edited on March 23, 2009 at 10:06 PM. Reason : .]

3/23/2009 10:05:22 PM

i think i'd trust the judgment of a college coach over that of some faggot on a message board complaining about how many stars he has

3/23/2009 10:08:07 PM

I don't buy that at all, they may not play to their ranking but 3 star+ bball recruits DO pan out a hell of a lot more than 2 star and below. I was never arguing about the accuracy of ranking recruits in the correct order.

3/23/2009 10:09:02 PM

i wonder what the * ranks are for Wake Forest

compared to the * ranks of Cleveland State

[Edited on March 23, 2009 at 10:10 PM. Reason : wtf north dakota]

3/23/2009 10:10:22 PM

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"3 star+ bball recruits DO pan out a hell of a lot more than 2 star and below"

Probably true

There's still no good reason to be disappointed that we signed Davis

Does this extend to football?

Cause I was so pissed when we signed that one-star chump Manny Lawson

And what about that fat tight end out of Alabama? Whatever happened to that guy?

Geez, these dudes at Scout.com know everything

[Edited on March 23, 2009 at 10:13 PM. Reason : ]

3/23/2009 10:11:36 PM

I'm not hating on the kid, I'm just saying it is rational to be a little weary of the decision to offer him a scholarship when he HAS been evaluated as a lower level talent by Telep and others. I will be pulling hard for him to succeed but I understand the concern over extending him a scholarship at the same time.

3/23/2009 10:12:36 PM

maybe josh davis is john wall's best friend in the whole entire world?

3/23/2009 10:12:49 PM

Some dude on PP said he was really raw, had a bad shot because he had not adjusted to his post-growth spurt body, but that he was very athletic and a good rebounder.


We definitely have a need for a role player who is athletic. We need skill guys too, but any increase in athleticism is a very useful thing to have.

3/23/2009 10:14:15 PM

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"I understand the concern over extending him a scholarship at the same time."

Are there three players better than Davis that we have a chance at signing?

[Edited on March 23, 2009 at 10:14 PM. Reason : ]

3/23/2009 10:14:35 PM

good post from PP

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"I've watched him play the last four years, and this is what I can tell you about him: He's definitely a late bloomer via late growth spurt. He went from 5'10" sophomore year to 6'4" junior year, and played his senior year around 6'6", and is still growing. This past weekend he participated in the NC/SC All-Star game with the likes of Earnest Ross, Garrius Adams, etc. and took home MVP honors. Also, right after the game Seton Hall and UNCW had already extended an offer. About his game: The problem with him is that he has a wing man's body but a forwards game. He has the potential to play on the perimeter but he has made his living in the pain the last two years. He is a high caliber ACC rebounder right now, really gets after loose balls and has great instincts, and he has the same mentality with shot blocking which he also excels in. He can handle the ball really well for a big man, probably due to the growth spur effect. He can drive and finish with ease, and has shown that he is extremely athletic around the rim. Basically, he knows how to get the ball in the basket, as shown by being top 3 in the state in points. His big weakness right now is his jumpshot. He turned from deep threat to shaky shooter during said growth spurt, however his ineffective shot can most likely be attributed to poor coaching in that he tried to fix it himself. He has shown that he can consistently hit about a 15 footer with relative ease, however. Defensively, he is a deceptively good defender. Watching him guard players such as Ross and Adams really reminded me of watching Hansbrough guard the perimeter, in that he looks to be off balance and easily broken down, yet still effectively shuts his man down most of the time. He is a tireless worker and constantly hones his game. Overall, he is an under the radar kid most likely due to being a late bloomer, but he could develop into a solid ACC talent."

3/23/2009 10:16:08 PM

^Probably not many, but he if he needs a lot of development time anyway we could have probably just saved the scholly for 2010. Whatever, it is water under the bridge and I hope he exceeds expectations.

3/23/2009 10:16:48 PM

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"Hansbrough guard the perimeter"

huh

3/23/2009 10:18:43 PM

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"^stars don't mean shit."

In football maybe but basketball they typically are correct.More than likely the top recruits pan out and the lower ones don't. This kid, however, sounds like he has potential. We still have two scholarships to play with it, so its better to take a flyer than to let it go wasted.

3/23/2009 10:24:15 PM

needs to work on his FT%, but i like that he's a scorer

http://www.maxpreps.com/north-carolina/basketball/athens-drive-(raleigh)/josh-davis/stats.aspx?athleteid=59239902-6386-4eed-bc03-265e7426f156&ssid=08e31156-1f2d-4c08-b687-afb41d9f9601&urpath=,local,player

[Edited on March 23, 2009 at 10:44 PM. Reason : ;]

3/23/2009 10:44:03 PM

Someone said he knocks down his jumper consistently out to 15 feet, so the main things to work on with him is his FT shooting and range on his jump shot. Still it's encouraging to know that the guy is a great rebounder, hard worker, and knows how to score.

3/23/2009 10:52:19 PM

I guess since our program is in the shitter, we should just be signing 5 stars or nothing, because thats easy to do and all.


News flash: When your program is in the shitter, you should be excited about signing prospects like this with a ton of upside, regardless of his rank. He's not ranked because he's grown 8 inches in like 2 years, which basically means he's played a different position every year in high school. I'm not saying he's underranked, but he probably hasn't been evaluated at his current position, plus I really don't give a fuck. He seems like a good guy to have on the team from all accounts, so who gives a shit where he's ranked?



Some of our fans should just go ahead and jump off that cliff. If you're that miserable, do us all a favor and pull for UNC, or kill yourselves. You're making it more difficult for the people who don't have ridiculously overblown expectations.

3/23/2009 10:54:29 PM

Seems like the kinda guy that Clemson has signed, and since used, to fuck our shit up the past few years.

3/23/2009 10:56:29 PM

i like the mentality of "lesser ranked" players b'c they have more to prove, therefore are more motivated if you ask me. this guy has wanted to play here for a long time, worked his butt off, and got here. he'll probably turn out to be a great player and very passionate for our program. looking forward to watching him play.

3/23/2009 10:59:04 PM

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"Some dude on PP said he was really raw, had a bad shot because he had not adjusted to his post-growth spurt body, but that he was very athletic and a good rebounder. We definitely have a need for a role player who is athletic. We need skill guys too, but any increase in athleticism is a very useful thing to have."

The way I look at it, we just got an upgrade.

Out goes fergie, in comes davis

No offense to fergie, but I'll take a smart more athletic player any day of the week.

3/23/2009 11:01:44 PM

stars mean everything.

signed,

David McClure, 4 star prospect

[Edited on March 23, 2009 at 11:09 PM. Reason : give the guy a chance before you throw him under the bus]

3/23/2009 11:09:29 PM

c.j. williams
josh davis
johnny thomas


these 3 are hustlers...i can't wait to see them take on bigger roles

3/23/2009 11:10:10 PM

I'm optimistic about Davis. We'll see what happens tho

^I'd throw Smith in there too, he gets after the ball

[Edited on March 23, 2009 at 11:12 PM. Reason : Tracy]

3/23/2009 11:11:53 PM

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"Some of our fans should just go ahead and jump off that cliff. If you're that miserable, do us all a favor and pull for UNC, or kill yourselves. You're making it more difficult for the people who don't have ridiculously overblown expectations"

Hoping for the NIT is overblown? Damn. I guess I'll lower my expectations and root for the CBI next year.

3/23/2009 11:12:51 PM

nobody is throwing anybody under the bus, I hope this kid is a good player for us and maybe he will be, but I think it's important to keep in mind that every unheralded player we've gotten commitments from in both football and basketball has "had serious upside", you're never going to hear a bunch of negative shit about them from PP or wherever else right after they commit. It just seems like the wheels have fallen off as far as recruiting since we went from being in contention for some of the top players in the country to signing a potential walk on. Frankly we need those top players in the country or Lowe is probably going to get fired.

3/23/2009 11:18:14 PM

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"I guess I'll lower my expectations and root for the CBI next year"

There's a difference between expectations and what you're rooting for.

I'm rooting for an undefeated national championship next season -- but looking at our roster, I'm expecting nothing better than this year.

I guess it shouldn't be a surprise that a guy like you (who doesn't understand this difference) is pissed about Davis. You need to lower your expectations, dawg.

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"you're never going to hear a bunch of negative shit about them from PP or wherever else right after they commit"

Maybe because they haven't stepped on the fucking court yet?

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"It just seems like the wheels have fallen off as far as recruiting"

We have the twentieth highest-rated class in the nation.

Number 20

Out of 300 something

That's us

[Edited on March 23, 2009 at 11:23 PM. Reason : ]

3/23/2009 11:20:08 PM

"Hi, I am a two star"

http://miami.scout.com/a.z?s=13&p=8&c=1&nid=1015006

didn't realize he was a transfer from Siena

[Edited on March 23, 2009 at 11:22 PM. Reason : l]

3/23/2009 11:20:58 PM

^^^while i agree to an extent

if we didnt lose fergie and offered this kid then yea, I would think something is up

Fergie leaving just opened up a spot for this kid and the staff sees something in him


i mean why not

[Edited on March 23, 2009 at 11:22 PM. Reason : ^^^]

3/23/2009 11:21:57 PM

jmhandjob has 466 posts and about 464 of them are of the negative lowe bashing variety

hes in the same category as ohboyeee to me

3/23/2009 11:27:19 PM

$100 says Davis never sees the court, aside from some OOC mop-up duty

3/23/2009 11:31:43 PM

he shouldn't next year

3/23/2009 11:32:22 PM

we should of offered marcus jordan

3/23/2009 11:33:05 PM