[Edited on March 29, 2006 at 4:40 PM. Reason : jesus wolf web]

3/29/2006 4:36:46 PM

multi-street quasi-bluffs in limit are the heat


Poker Stars
Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Ring game
Limit: $30/$60
5 players

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 2s 4d 6d 2h
3 folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 4h as th (2SB, 2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: qh (2BB, 2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB calls.

River: 9d (6BB, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: 6BB

3/29/2006 4:37:56 PM

you were probably good

3/29/2006 5:50:36 PM

PokerStars Game #4456027848: Tournament #22164025, Hold'em No Limit - Level VI
(100/200) - 2006/03/29 - 18:23:45 (ET)
Table '22164025 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: NuahK (3860 in chips)
Seat 3: wlfpacker (4540 in chips)
Seat 4: lancey24 (1335 in chips)
Seat 8: shaggio (3765 in chips)
NuahK: posts small blind 100
wlfpacker: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to wlfpacker [Kd 4c]
lancey24: folds
shaggio: folds
NuahK: calls 100
wlfpacker: checks
*** FLOP *** [4h 2c 4s]
NuahK: checks
wlfpacker: checks
*** TURN *** [4h 2c 4s] [3h]
NuahK: checks
wlfpacker: bets 200
NuahK: calls 200
*** RIVER *** [4h 2c 4s 3h] [Kc]
NuahK: bets 200
wlfpacker: raises 200 to 400
NuahK: raises 3060 to 3460 and is all-in
wlfpacker: calls 3060
*** SHOW DOWN ***
NuahK: shows [4d 2d] (a full house, Fours full of Deuces)
wlfpacker: shows [Kd 4c] (a full house, Fours full of Kings)
wlfpacker collected 7720 from pot
NuahK [observer] said, "yes ofc"
lancey24 said, "WOW"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7720 | Rake 0
Board [4h 2c 4s 3h Kc]
Seat 1: NuahK (small blind) showed [4d 2d] and lost with a full house, Fours
full of Deuces
Seat 3: wlfpacker (big blind) showed [Kd 4c] and won (7720) with a full house,
Fours full of Kings
Seat 4: lancey24 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: shaggio (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

hahaha, that made me feel good

3/29/2006 7:03:24 PM

as others have said, 3 outs is the nuts on stars

3/29/2006 7:06:21 PM

I'm willing to smack some TWWers around in a tournament setting. Just give me the word on when you're starting these things.

3/30/2006 3:47:02 AM

Ok, I now have the technology.

hows about this, set up a league that plays like 2 times a month or something, with the tournament times set for what works the best for most people.

each tournament will be $10+1, with a varrying game.

Ill set up a leader board, for tracking overall results, with a forum championship to be determined.

the games stars has the capability of hosting are

NLHE, LHE, lo8, plo, plo8, lo, 7cs, 7cs8.

Since most people seem to prefer the nlhe events, there will be more of those in the scattering of the tournaments.

so ill compose a formula for scoring points. beyond that, if people would like, we could have a thing where like your top x finishes count toward your overall score.

so it seems like there are about 10 people that are up to this.

i wont take the time if its going to be less than 10, but get your friends, this should be fun.

=)

3/30/2006 4:32:39 AM

some interest has been expressed via pm thus far.

if you have days that would be the best for you to have these events, come forth.

i was thinking thursday nights, maybe tuesday nights.

3/30/2006 8:43:05 AM

I sent a PM, for $10 each, I am in.

3/30/2006 9:22:03 AM

that does sound fun

how are you setting those up?

3/30/2006 9:50:11 AM

I have the capabilities to set up private tournaments on pokerstars.

Ill set a time that everyone agrees upon, then setup the tournament a few days prior. you could sign up at your convenience, or up to like 1 minute prior to the time the tournament is scheduled to start, just like a regular tournament. they'll just be located under the private tab.

I am still a bit unsure as of the way I'll scoring the overall leaderboard, but ill draw up a spreasheet and post it.

Also since there will be multiple tournaments i was thinking it may be better for some of you guys if we bumped it to a $5?

Doesnt matter to me, id just like to get as many people as we could involved!

3/30/2006 10:41:50 AM

A good way to score would be on a scale that depends on teh number of people involved in the tourney.

If 10 people for example,
1st out gets 1 point,
etc...
Winner would get 10 points. That is 1 point for each place. That way, even if the number of people fluxuates, it is accounted for.

3/30/2006 10:53:46 AM

yeah i was thinking of using a varaint of the formula that stars uses for the tlb points, the buyin level factor will be negated due to the flat buyins across the series of tournaments.

but also expanding the point distrobution so its not just top 15%, but nearly everyone.

[Edited on March 30, 2006 at 10:56 AM. Reason : wer]

3/30/2006 10:56:45 AM

ok, im game for this. just made a pokerstars deposit

3/30/2006 11:04:25 AM

the system i suggested would give points to everyone that plays.

also, you ned to give some notice, i do not have a stars account.

3/30/2006 11:19:27 AM

I'll do it if someone sends me money to poker stars. I can pay you in cash in person. I've quit playing online in case I get wasted and decide 3/6 is a good idea again even though I actually won at that limit.

Pilgram if you play 30/60 on stars let me know I want to see that.

3/30/2006 11:44:48 AM

I'll play

3/30/2006 4:15:28 PM

i'm game

3/30/2006 8:47:04 PM

im in...

3/30/2006 10:04:42 PM

none of you know me, but everyones letting everyone know they are in, so heh, im in too!

3/30/2006 11:00:55 PM

get off of here tejas

[Edited on March 30, 2006 at 11:06 PM. Reason : .]

3/30/2006 11:05:33 PM

Tejas you got mad at me when I rocked you in poker one night.

3/30/2006 11:38:18 PM

I know two of you.

3/31/2006 1:15:45 AM

ok lookk for the first one to run next thursday.

tentatively.

im going out of town this weekend, tell your friends.

3/31/2006 11:59:36 AM

is the league open to anyone or just TWW people?

3/31/2006 2:21:44 PM

Another big cash.

4/1/2006 2:16:37 AM

actually i dont think i can handle losing 10+1 on a regular basis. lets see how this week goes before i make that call

[Edited on April 2, 2006 at 12:41 AM. Reason : take it back]

4/2/2006 12:40:07 AM

I still hate playing online...

PokerStars Game #4494043454: 7 Card Stud Limit ($1/$2) - 2006/04/02 - 03:26:09 (ET)
Table 'Lyra III' 8-max
Seat 1: base698 ($40 in chips)
Seat 2: greyhawke ($19.70 in chips)
Seat 3: tire ($42.95 in chips)
Seat 4: KUSystem ($2.50 in chips)
Seat 5: rgpars ($60.40 in chips)
Seat 6: MREofJAX ($11.20 in chips)
Seat 7: cowboys 3 ($100.05 in chips)
Seat 8: Marie123 ($40 in chips)
base698: posts the ante $0.10
greyhawke: posts the ante $0.10
tire: posts the ante $0.10
KUSystem: posts the ante $0.10
rgpars: posts the ante $0.10
MREofJAX: posts the ante $0.10
cowboys 3: posts the ante $0.10
Marie123: posts the ante $0.10
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to base698 [9c 9d 9h]
Dealt to greyhawke [2d]
Dealt to tire [4h]
Dealt to KUSystem [6c]
Dealt to rgpars [8h]
Dealt to MREofJAX [4c]
Dealt to cowboys 3 [8s]
Dealt to Marie123 [Kh]
greyhawke: bets $1
tire: folds
KUSystem: raises $1 to $2
rgpars: folds
MREofJAX: folds
cowboys 3: folds
Marie123: raises $1 to $3
base698: raises $1 to $4
Betting is capped
greyhawke: calls $3
cowboys 3 leaves the table
KUSystem: calls $0.40 and is all-in
Marie123: calls $1
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to base698 [9c 9d 9h] [7h]
Dealt to greyhawke [2d] [Qh]
Dealt to KUSystem [6c] [Tc]
Dealt to Marie123 [Kh] [7c]
Marie123: bets $1
base698: raises $1 to $2
greyhawke: raises $1 to $3
Marie123: raises $1 to $4
Betting is capped
base698: calls $2
greyhawke: calls $1
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to base698 [9c 9d 9h 7h] [9s]
Dealt to greyhawke [2d Qh] [Qc]
Dealt to KUSystem [6c Tc] [6h]
Dealt to Marie123 [Kh 7c] [Jh]
greyhawke: bets $2
Marie123: calls $2
base698: raises $2 to $4
greyhawke: raises $2 to $6
Marie123: calls $4
base698: raises $2 to $8
Betting is capped
greyhawke: calls $2
Marie123: calls $2
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to base698 [9c 9d 9h 7h 9s] [2c]
Dealt to greyhawke [2d Qh Qc] [2s]
Dealt to KUSystem [6c Tc 6h] [4s]
Dealt to Marie123 [Kh 7c Jh] [5s]
greyhawke: bets $2
Marie123: folds
base698: raises $2 to $4
greyhawke: calls $1.60 and is all-in
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to base698 [9c 9d 9h 7h 9s 2c] [5h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
base698: shows [9c 9d 9h 7h 9s 2c 5h] (four of a kind, Nines)
greyhawke: shows [Ah As 2d Qh Qc 2s 8c] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
base698 collected $47.50 from side pot
KUSystem: mucks hand
base698 collected $9.90 from main pot
KUSystem leaves the table
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $58.40 Main pot $9.90. Side pot $47.50. | Rake $1
Seat 1: base698 showed [9c 9d 9h 7h 9s 2c 5h] and won ($57.40) with four of a kind, Nines
Seat 2: greyhawke showed [Ah As 2d Qh Qc 2s 8c] and lost with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 3: tire folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 4: KUSystem mucked [7d 5d 6c Tc 6h 4s 2h]
Seat 5: rgpars folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 6: MREofJAX folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 7: cowboys 3 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Marie123 folded on the 6th Street

4/2/2006 4:14:44 AM

TWWSOP 2006 has begun!


The first event will be held this thursday at 8 pm, a $10+1 NLHE tournament.

The tournament is up and you can register if you'd like

Tournament ID:22451266
PWD: TWW2006
Pokerstars.

The final formula for an overall leaderboard will be up soon. Ill probably throw in a $$$ card to the overall winner, for extra spice.

Invite your friends, invite every one you know.

There will be a sequence of events, 7 events total, of mixed games. To keep up interest, there are more nlhe events than other games. However, since this is a test of overall skill, your top 4 point gathering places will be used in the overall leaderboard scoring.

Event 1 - $10+1 NLHE
Event 2 - $5+0.5 PLO
Event 3 - $5+0.5 7CS8 (limit)
Event 4 - $5+0.5 NLHE
Event 5 - $5+0.5 PLO8
Event 6 - $5+0.5 7CS (limit)
Event 7 - $10+1 NLHE


I have lowered the entry fee for the non-nlhe events in order to try and get more players in the field.

If thursday nights dont work for most people, let me know.

check back here for this thread in case we need to change the night of the tournaments, or for leaderboard updates!


the final formula i settled on is the same as the stars TLB forumla, but everyone that particiapates in a tournament recieves points for the leaderboard.

from http://www.pokerstars.com/tlb_tournament_rankings.html

Points = 10 * [sqrt(n)/sqrt(k)] * [1+log(b+0.25)]

Where:

n is the number of entrants
k is the place of finish (k=1 for the first-place finisher, and so on)
b is the buy-in amount in dollars (excluding administrative fee). For freerolls the buy-in is $0, and for FPP tournaments 1 FPP is counted as $0.05.

So in this case, finishing first in the first tournament, with an expected 30 runners would yeild:
P = 10*[(30^.5)/(1^.5)]*[1+log(10+.25)]
= 110.132 points.

where as the 15th place finisher would recieve:
P = 10*[(30^.5)/(15^.5)]*[1+log(10+.25)]
= 28.4359

and finally the last place finisher would recieve:
P = 10*[(30^.5)/(30^.5)]*[1+log(10+.25)]
= 21.1072

So obviously, going deep and finishing strong warrants more points, and gets more points.

Gimme Some feedback!

4/3/2006 4:36:04 PM

fucking sweet

4/3/2006 8:02:06 PM

Looks like I have to play online poker again.

Though I may miss this Thursday, as I am off to Columbia for a job interview at USC

4/3/2006 8:14:06 PM

[Edited on April 3, 2006 at 8:14 PM. Reason : ]

4/3/2006 8:14:09 PM

christ, im going to have to play stud

4/3/2006 8:28:09 PM

ok, finally got my deposit straightened out there. i will do as many of these as possible, and thurs nights are just fine for the most part

[Edited on April 3, 2006 at 8:36 PM. Reason : so any idea what kind of numbers to expect as far as participation?]

4/3/2006 8:29:21 PM

Weekly 1/2 game off of Hillsborough St. PM for details.

4/4/2006 5:27:12 PM

WAY TO START OFF THE REBUY TOURNEY

2nd fucking hand

ive been getting shit on like this irl and online for the last week

PokerStars Game #4523995405: Tournament #22379919, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/04/04 - 22:15:52 (ET)
Table '22379919 62' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Xkal (3000 in chips)
Seat 2: $H-STAKES$ (2990 in chips)
Seat 3: 86corvette (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: Ironcat (3010 in chips)
Seat 6: BridgeBot (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: VegasNuts (3000 in chips)
Seat 8: KNUCKLES1000 (3000 in chips)
Seat 9: Acehole (1500 in chips)
Ironcat: posts small blind 10
BridgeBot: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Xkal [Qh Ah]
phita45 is connected
Xkal said, "wtf tight rebuy table"
VegasNuts: folds
KNUCKLES1000: folds
Acehole: folds
Xkal: raises 2980 to 3000 and is all-in
$H-STAKES$: folds
86corvette: folds
Ironcat: folds
BridgeBot: calls 1480 and is all-in
BridgeBot said, "nh"
*** FLOP *** [9h 3h 7h]
*** TURN *** [9h 3h 7h] [9d]
BridgeBot said, "lol.. nice flop"
*** RIVER *** [9h 3h 7h 9d] [3s]
Ironcat said, "uh oh"
BridgeBot said, "wow"
Xkal said, "wtf"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BridgeBot: shows [As 9c] (a full house, Nines full of Threes)
Xkal: shows [Qh Ah] (a flush, Ace high)
BridgeBot collected 3010 from pot
Xkal said, "great call"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3010 | Rake 0
Board [9h 3h 7h 9d 3s]
Seat 1: Xkal showed [Qh Ah] and lost with a flush, Ace high
Seat 2: $H-STAKES$ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: 86corvette (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Ironcat (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: BridgeBot (big blind) showed [As 9c] and won (3010) with a full house, Nines full of Threes
Seat 7: VegasNuts folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: KNUCKLES1000 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Acehole folded before Flop (didn't bet)



[Edited on April 4, 2006 at 10:33 PM. Reason : .]

4/4/2006 10:18:52 PM

im out

fuck poker

add the 3x after the hand above where i lost with hands where i dominated the guy to basically 2 outs ie QQ vs JJ, JJ vs 99, AA vs JJ to my list for the week


i am sick of this shit

[Edited on April 4, 2006 at 10:57 PM. Reason : .]

4/4/2006 10:56:50 PM

screwin around on the low limit NLH

it continues

Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2006/04/04 - 23:06:40 (ET)
Table 'Gratia V' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: gangster_one ($50 in chips)
Seat 2: cwr23 ($47.30 in chips)
Seat 3: Camelcowboy ($61.70 in chips)
Seat 4: crzygambler1 ($19 in chips)
Seat 5: Goldfizzle ($59.05 in chips)
Seat 6: Xkal ($66.55 in chips)
crzygambler1: posts small blind $0.25
Goldfizzle: posts big blind $0.50
gangster_one: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Xkal [Qc Ah]
Xkal: calls $0.50
gangster_one: checks
cwr23: folds
Camelcowboy: folds
crzygambler1: calls $0.25
Goldfizzle: checks
*** FLOP *** [Qs 3d Qd]
crzygambler1: checks
Goldfizzle: checks
Xkal: checks
gangster_one: bets $1.50
crzygambler1: folds
Goldfizzle: folds
Xkal: raises $3 to $4.50
gangster_one: calls $3
*** TURN *** [Qs 3d Qd] [Td]
Xkal: bets $10
gangster_one: calls $10
*** RIVER *** [Qs 3d Qd Td] [2d]
Xkal: bets $18.50
gangster_one: calls $18.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Xkal: shows [Qc Ah] (three of a kind, Queens)
gangster_one: shows [9h 9d] (a flush, Queen high)
gangster_one collected $65.00 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Board [Qs 3d Qd Td 2d]
Seat 1: gangster_one showed [9h 9d] and won ($65.00) with a flush, Queen high
Seat 2: cwr23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Camelcowboy (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: crzygambler1 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Goldfizzle (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Xkal showed [Qc Ah] and lost with three of a kind, Queens

4/4/2006 11:15:27 PM

i now remember why I quit online poker

god dammit

i may just play the 100+9 or 150+12 from now on,. but god dammit those fields are stacked and the pool is never that damn large

4/5/2006 12:14:14 AM

Quote :

"TWWSOP 2006 has begun! The first event will be held this thursday at 8 pm, a $10+1 NLHE tournament. The tournament is up and you can register if you'd like Tournament ID:22451266 PWD: TWW2006 Pokerstars. The final formula for an overall leaderboard will be up soon. Ill probably throw in a $$$ card to the overall winner, for extra spice. Invite your friends, invite every one you know. There will be a sequence of events, 7 events total, of mixed games. To keep up interest, there are more nlhe events than other games. However, since this is a test of overall skill, your top 4 point gathering places will be used in the overall leaderboard scoring. Event 1 - $10+1 NLHE Event 2 - $5+0.5 PLO Event 3 - $5+0.5 7CS8 (limit) Event 4 - $5+0.5 NLHE Event 5 - $5+0.5 PLO8 Event 6 - $5+0.5 7CS (limit) Event 7 - $10+1 NLHE I have lowered the entry fee for the non-nlhe events in order to try and get more players in the field. If thursday nights dont work for most people, let me know. check back here for this thread in case we need to change the night of the tournaments, or for leaderboard updates! the final formula i settled on is the same as the stars TLB forumla, but everyone that particiapates in a tournament recieves points for the leaderboard. from http://www.pokerstars.com/tlb_tournament_rankings.html Points = 10 * [sqrt(n)/sqrt(k)] * [1+log(b+0.25)] Where: n is the number of entrants k is the place of finish (k=1 for the first-place finisher, and so on) b is the buy-in amount in dollars (excluding administrative fee). For freerolls the buy-in is $0, and for FPP tournaments 1 FPP is counted as $0.05. So in this case, finishing first in the first tournament, with an expected 30 runners would yeild: P = 10*[(30^.5)/(1^.5)]*[1+log(10+.25)] = 110.132 points. where as the 15th place finisher would recieve: P = 10*[(30^.5)/(15^.5)]*[1+log(10+.25)] = 28.4359 and finally the last place finisher would recieve: P = 10*[(30^.5)/(30^.5)]*[1+log(10+.25)] = 21.1072 So obviously, going deep and finishing strong warrants more points, and gets more points. Gimme Some feedback! "

dont forget...

4/5/2006 10:22:16 AM

just played my first game on pokerstars, 3+.4 10 man sng, holla. 2nd place. im feelin stars ok, not a bad layout

4/5/2006 12:17:55 PM

im in as kensmoe8...gl all

4/5/2006 2:05:18 PM

Hey,
Could someone spot me some cash on Poker Stars? I did not get money into my neteller fast enough.

I can either
1) Transfer money to neteller and then to stars and then back to you.
2) Transfer money to neteller then to yoru neteller accnt
3) Transfer from paypal to paypal(linked to my bank accnt)
4) Transfer from UB to a UB accnt.(where all my poker money is)

Let me know, OR, since I do not have a Poker Stars account, I could sign up under your name and not have to pay you back...

Whatever, just want to make sure I can play in this.

4/5/2006 3:07:01 PM

I'll do it if you pay the neteller fees(option 2)



[Edited on April 5, 2006 at 6:39 PM. Reason : .]

4/5/2006 6:37:34 PM

pokerstars has instacash doesnt it?

4/6/2006 3:11:02 AM

someone let me know because I would like to play.

Turner/Jim/David/Eddie,
this is rob, could yall lend me some until I get poker stars funded?

4/6/2006 8:46:36 AM

more of you losers better sign up for this tournament tonight

4/6/2006 2:59:56 PM

agreed

4/6/2006 3:55:38 PM

I would like someone to transfer me $30 on PokerStars, I will then traqnsfer them $30 on Ultimate bet.

Any Takers?

4/6/2006 4:45:35 PM

I just learned how to play the other weekend, I won everytime! I think I get it.

4/6/2006 4:48:07 PM