I agree with Sid in this case. Waiting a week b/t ACC games can be hard on a team. Nothing wrong with playing a cupcake at this point. And it was probably difficult to schedule a decent OOC team at this point in the season.

2/4/2009 11:04:00 AM

maybe this win will the team a little confidence since we lost a tough one to UNC

2/4/2009 11:16:07 AM

for anyone saying this game was scheduled terribly, what would you prefer? for us to schedule someone who would whoop us just so our SOS would be a little higher? for what?

2/4/2009 12:32:34 PM

I think we'd all prefer us to schedule a good team and actually beat them.

But I suppose when we're THIS bad, the only alternative is scrub cleaning.

2/4/2009 12:34:41 PM

Quote :

"i disagree 100% we are not going to the NCAAT this year unless we win the ACCT so RPI is moot."

That and ^^ just basically admits that we suck and should play lower teams just to get easy wins.

So in other words, Sid had no expectations of even making the NCAAs. GG.

2/4/2009 1:48:15 PM

I'm pretty sure the logic was to play this game as practice instead of taking the week off, not scheduling an easy win. Lowe said he had a problem with last years schedule where we played like 1 game in 16 days and it threw the team off, so he added this one to the schedule.


Plus, I think we accomplished the goal of keeping Fells hot from 3, so why all the bitching?

2/4/2009 1:53:27 PM

It was also good to see Costner maintaining most of the same intensity level even when a lot of the team was still dogging it in stretches

2/4/2009 1:59:45 PM

Quote :

"so why all the bitching?"

It makes some people feel good, especially while done on the internet. Bitch on.

2/4/2009 2:26:56 PM

Quote :

"Sidney Lowe, NC State Coach Lowe seems like he shouldn’t be worried about his job security in Raleigh for a long time. He was the point guard on the Wolfpack’s 1983 NCAA championship team under Jim Valvano. He wears a red blazer on game days in honor of his late great coach. And after leading his team to a stunning run to the ACC Championship game in just his first year as head coach, he was given an extension that keeps him under contract all the way through the 2012-13 season. However, this is also the same school that all but pushed Coach Herb Sendek out the door to Arizona State three years ago, after only winning 191 games and leading them to the NCAA Tournament in each of his last five years. So suffice it to say, NC State’s current 11-8 record, and tenth place standing in the ACC in Lowe’s third season is enough to put his job in jeopardy, even if he did lose JJ Hickson to the NBA. In his first season, although he did manage that improbable run through the ACC Tournament, Lowe still only earned five wins in the conference during the regular season. He second year saw the Wolfpack post a 4-12 ACC record, losing their last nine games and ending up in last place in the conference, despite being nationally ranked in the preseason. It’s also not making it easier for Lowe that the other three North Carolina ACC schools are all currently competing for a #1 seed in the NCAA Tournament. It would be premature to let Coach Lowe go after only three seasons, especially considering that Herb Sendek posted an identical ACC record in his first two years on the bench. It wouldn’t be a surprise, however, if they did. "

from a collegehoopsnet article about coaches on the hot seat

2/6/2009 2:25:05 PM

lowe isn't on the hot seat

2/6/2009 2:29:23 PM

that idiot doesnt know what hes talking about

2/6/2009 2:31:28 PM

Why is he an idiot? He quite clearly states that it would be premature... but if you read this thread and every thread on PP after a loss, it's quite clear there are a lot of people who feel that way.

2/6/2009 2:42:08 PM

b/c everyone knows he will not be let go
there shouldnt be any speculation about it

Lowe will our coach next year unless he resigns and that will not happen
there isnt even a need to write this article - its all moot at this point since, again, he will be here next
year and more than likely the next as well with the 2 studs already committed to that class.



[Edited on February 6, 2009 at 2:51 PM. Reason : [Edited on February 6, 2009 at 2:50 PM. Reason : so...]]

2/6/2009 2:49:21 PM

^ Wow. Way to get the memo on the 86th page of the thread... your post is meaningless

2/6/2009 2:59:22 PM

ahaha

ATTN: Users with <1,000 posts

2/6/2009 3:06:27 PM

Quote :

"ATTN: Users with <1,000 posts"

[Edited on February 6, 2009 at 3:11 PM. Reason : dur]

2/6/2009 3:11:12 PM

even if people want him gone, everyone knows lee fowler isn't going to fire him.

2/6/2009 3:50:35 PM

Quote :

"^ Wow. Way to get the memo on the 86th page of the thread... your post is meaningless"

L
O
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youre so funny, greg

2/6/2009 4:05:01 PM

post his email address gunzz.

do it.

2/6/2009 4:10:51 PM

I think the point is why would Lowe schedule this game when playing only lowers the RPI. Granted it is a moot point THIS season, but did Lowe know it would be moot because we'd be so damn shitty? It was the wrong decision to schedule this game. Yes, we should be scheduling tougher opponents if we are going to have an OOC game in the middle of the season. If he couldn't find anyone better than NCCU than don't schedule any game that week. Why the fuck schedule a game if it only hurts your RPI win or lose?

2/6/2009 4:24:10 PM

he did it because last year we had a long dead period between games and he felt that the team really lost focus because of it

he didn't want that to happen again

now, maybe he couldn't get anyone besides NCCU. maybe in the future if he does that we'll get a better opponent.

2/6/2009 4:27:04 PM

I'm of the mindset to have a week off than schedule a cupcake midway through the ACC that brings your RPI down 12 spots. To each their own. Don't see how you can defend playing NCCU. Work them harder at practice on an off week, have them run a red/white game. The excuses for this shitty program are getting old.

2/6/2009 4:35:09 PM

fuck off dude

i'm just answering your fucking question on why sidney did what he did.

I'm down with a little friendly bitching from time to time, but seriously, you're just a fucking asshole.

2/6/2009 4:42:44 PM

thanks for that pal. I've already explained to you why it was a piss poor idea to schedule NCCU and you say so that we can get the players a run, meanwhile dropping in RPI. I don't see your side of the argument here. Lowe fucked up scheduling this game, it is simple as that.

2/6/2009 4:50:20 PM

I, too, think I know more about coaching and our team than Sid Lowe.

2/6/2009 4:51:09 PM

Just as Gjohn has said, we came out flat last year, after the week off, against an ACC team. We can beat Vtech but not if we come out flat.

Guess what happened when we played on tuesday (I dont care who it is, we were gonna come out flat after a unc game).....we came out flat

Now i think Ohboyeeeeeeee is just trolling again

[Edited on February 6, 2009 at 4:54 PM. Reason : cue the trolls....but but but but thats coaching blah blah blah blah blah fags]

2/6/2009 4:53:50 PM

okay, IF we happened to be a bubble team at this point in the season (of course we aren't because of the players, not Lowe, Sidney Lowe is a God Coach) and we come out and drop 12 spots in RPI for a scheduling blunder, that is BAD. This isn't a gray area, it was not in our best interest to have this game scheduled. Fuck, you people are really dense.

2/6/2009 4:59:37 PM

^You are disliked.

2/6/2009 5:16:19 PM

Beating (or being more prepared to beat) VT is much more important than the RPI drop. If we were actually a bubble team then the extra ACC win would be WAY more fucking important than the last minute scheduling of an OOC opponent and the RPI drop it causes.

2/6/2009 5:22:41 PM

news flash: we aren't going to beat Virginia Tech! And scheduling an extra game doesn't mean shit. As I said before, work them harder in practice if you don't want them to come out flat. I don't see many other ACC teams scheduling shit teams during their week off, god forbid we actually rest up and have a few extra days to game plan.

[Edited on February 6, 2009 at 5:26 PM. Reason : .]

2/6/2009 5:24:26 PM

Then why the fuck do you care about our OOC scheduling??

2/6/2009 5:25:19 PM

i thought they made schedules a couple years in advance. or is that football?

2/6/2009 5:25:34 PM

^ see FatTony's post on page 85, 2nd to last. I'm just going by what he said.

2/6/2009 5:27:23 PM

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"news flash: we aren't going to beat Virginia Tech!"

See, now why would you post that? Serisouly? What the hell is the purpose of posting that? ARe you just unhappy in general? Does that make you feel good? Give you a chubby? You don't know. Of course there's a possibity that we could beat VT. Dude, you're an internet ass. A troll, if you will.

2/6/2009 5:30:29 PM

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"s I said before, work them harder in practice if you don't want them to come out flat."

I, too, think I know more about coaching and our team than Sid Lowe.

2/6/2009 5:30:52 PM

well I don't know more about coaching basketball than he does, but 9 or 10 other coaches in the ACC obviously do.

2/6/2009 5:37:04 PM

now you're just trolling

^don't bite on that people, DONT DO IT

2/6/2009 5:42:54 PM

scheduling a Tuesday game against Shitty Central is not going to help us against an ACC opponent, Virginia Tech on the road. It's still a 5 day layoff. In fact it hurt our RPI. It's padding stats if anything.

I'll leave it alone now though since you guys are overly sensitive to any criticism of Lowe and his decisions. It's definitely the players fault.

2/6/2009 5:52:19 PM

2/6/2009 6:14:49 PM

I've noticed one thing happens in this thread A LOT. Whenever a point is made about a questionable decision made by Lowe, you get called a troll by 4 of the same people. Good job boys.

2/6/2009 6:16:54 PM

Quote :

"scheduling a Tuesday game against Shitty Central is not going to help us against an ACC opponent, Virginia Tech on the road."

Lowe obviously disagrees.

I think I'm going to take his judgement over yours.

2/6/2009 6:20:39 PM

have we lost to any bad teams this season?

2/6/2009 7:36:22 PM

davidson?

2/6/2009 7:51:28 PM

davidson is bad? they have curry

2/6/2009 8:03:19 PM

Quote :

"okay, IF we happened to be a bubble team at this point in the season (of course we aren't because of the players, not Lowe, Sidney Lowe is a God Coach) and we come out and drop 12 spots in RPI for a scheduling blunder, that is BAD. This isn't a gray area, it was not in our best interest to have this game scheduled. Fuck, you people are really dense."

At the end of the season, if we're a bubble team, this game won't affect our RPI by 12 spots, it'll be by like one spots or two spots. The change on last year's RPI was (with a conservative guess of the opponents' opponents winnin gpercenteage of .5) was 5 thousandths.




[Edited on February 6, 2009 at 9:52 PM. Reason : .]

2/6/2009 9:46:04 PM

why did marquette have to lose to south florida

2/7/2009 11:25:42 AM

i dont know why people are even arguing this

i've bitched about lowe alot this year, but bitching about the schedule, especially at this point in the season, is just dumb.

2/7/2009 12:04:24 PM

Sydney Lowe this is unacceptable. You should schedule only teams like Kansas and UCLA and UConn after tough games. I will post angrily on the internet until you correct this problem.

2/7/2009 1:49:34 PM

^I see what you did there -- respond to pointless whining with lame sarcasm and an idiotic strawman.

2/7/2009 1:57:24 PM

Davidson is #27 in teh AP and #28 in the Coaches Poll. Of the 8 losses, the worst is probably either FSU or BC, and even they're both receiving votes in one poll or the other right now.

2/7/2009 8:33:08 PM