javi was hurt to start both seasons and to finish last season....just for the record.

3/24/2009 4:42:58 PM

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"it just seemed odd that a 3/4 was guarding the other team's 2 guard"

it seems odd that your best defender is guarding the other team's best player?

he used to be a guard himself, this isn't that odd




[Edited on March 24, 2009 at 4:45 PM. Reason : movin quick]

3/24/2009 4:44:36 PM

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"god if some of you aren't trolls, I weep for your ignorance."

No, I'll fully admit that I'm just trolling at this point. But that doesn't mean that there is no truth to what I'm saying (or you wouldn't even bother responding). At the end of the day, do you really think the odds are in favor of this kid ever becoming a "scholarship" worthy player for us? I would absolutely love to have your optimism, but being an NC State fan has all but obliterated all of mine.

3/24/2009 4:44:43 PM

While I'd of rather gotten Favors or Cousins (just so we're clear), Davis sound promising. No, he probably won't be another Jack McClinton, but it seems that he has a lot of positives. And we still have two scholarships available next year.

3/24/2009 4:46:41 PM

I honestly don't really care at this point. If that was our last scholarship I'd have been mad but it wasn't. At the same time I don't want us just using our scholarships because we have them. There isn't anyone else out there that we can sign that people are going to be happy about. All the talent is gone except for John Wall. Other than him there is no one we can sign for this class that is going to make an instant impact on our team or be a sure bet to make an impact for us in the future.

3/24/2009 5:06:52 PM

seth curry is transferring from liberty...

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/9376022/Stephen-Curry%27s-younger-brother-set-to-transfer

[Edited on March 24, 2009 at 5:13 PM. Reason : .]

3/24/2009 5:07:52 PM

^^Spurlock?

^Hell yeah.

3/24/2009 5:09:54 PM

We stopped at BoJangles on Jones Sausage Road today and who should walk in but future Memphis players ( ) John Wall and CJ Leslie.

A friend of mine said that I should have gone, "You know, John, they don't have BoJangles in Memphis."

Hindsight is 20/20

3/24/2009 5:11:01 PM

3/24/2009 5:17:03 PM

^ I'm not really impressed, but that can be attributed to watching the Cousins/Favors/Wall videos the past couple months.

3/24/2009 5:18:50 PM

^^^^he would be the only one. Do you really think we have a shot at him though? Will we even go after him now that we picked up someone like Davis?

[Edited on March 24, 2009 at 5:19 PM. Reason : ]

3/24/2009 5:18:51 PM

not to shit on former players, but I think Davis will contribue more over his tenure than ferguson.

Yeah, I have no idea about Spurlock, but I'd see no reason not to take him, despite picking up Davis. We could use as much incoming talent as we can get, at every position.

[Edited on March 24, 2009 at 5:23 PM. Reason : ]

3/24/2009 5:21:19 PM

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"The people who do this shit for a living say the kid is a scrub, I'll tend to believe them over the in depth analysis of some guy on a message board."

haha, Dave Telep...THE recruiting guy just gave a nice report on Josh Davis and said he was a nice pick up for our team....

So, the people who do this for a living just proved you wrong....
>.<

3/24/2009 5:25:06 PM

Is he left handed? If not, I like him more already.

3/24/2009 5:26:06 PM

furthermore, Shrike, where is all this information you are claiming about these pros saying hes a garbage...please post it as i am sure lots of us want to read it

[Edited on March 24, 2009 at 5:30 PM. Reason : b/c i havent read any of the sort]

3/24/2009 5:30:05 PM

solid built kid

someone who can hold his own down on the block and get some rebounds

thats what we need, someone who is willing to do the dirty work and get nasty down there, someone strong

Smith is under sized but dang if he didnt make some ACC boys look like chumps this year.

if this guy comes anywhere close to developing like Smith, we should be ok although Id still like a legit big man, maybe howell can become that guy

Imagine a Howell, Davis and Smith lineup with CJ and LoBrown, thats not bad for an undersized squad.

it aint all about height its about heart when it comes to rebounding.

3/24/2009 5:36:22 PM

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"Imagine a Howell, Davis and Smith lineup with CJ and LoBrown, thats not bad for an undersized squad."

Sigh. Here we go again. Keep your expectations in check. Davis is a good, coachable kid who you take a flyer on when you have a scholly open in hopes that in year 3 and 4 he can develop in to a contributor at this level.

Lets not pencil him in as part of our rotation next year and expect him to contribute on the ACC level... Good God people.

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"furthermore, Shrike, where is all this information you are claiming about these pros saying hes a garbage...please post it as i am sure lots of us want to read it"

I haven't seen anything to that effect. I have seen his offer list and it's underwhelming... That doesn't mean he can't eventually contribute for us though.

^ Tracy was a consensus Top 75 recruit...

[Edited on March 24, 2009 at 6:21 PM. Reason : x]

3/24/2009 6:16:37 PM

an increase in athleticism is categorically good for us.

3/24/2009 6:19:58 PM

I actually think Tracy was top 50 unless he slipped late. At one point he was 45.



I am kind of excited about this kid based on what I've read, but seriously, its like nobody on these fucking boards (with some exception) can just enjoy this stuff for what its worth. The recruit either sucks or he's the next steph curry. Lowe either sucks or he's the next Coach K. Get some perspective people. Its never as bad or good as it may seem.

3/24/2009 7:37:31 PM

^Tracy Smith finished at #70 overall on scout for 2007

3/24/2009 7:46:47 PM

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"monte towe is the one that scouted him and he's did a pretty good job in finding us a sleeper in scott wood."

Towe also pulled Javi out when our other plans fell through. If Davis stands a chance at developing as much as Javi did, he's worth a shot. It's not like we have a bunch of blue-chip recruits beating down our door.

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"I have seen his offer list and it's underwhelming... That doesn't mean he can't eventually contribute for us though."

NyM410, where have you seen his offer list and who is on it?

V Not there. Already looked. It's not on his player profile at least. Somebody in one of the threads over there said UNC-W and Seton Hall had offered, but I take that for what it is.

[Edited on March 24, 2009 at 8:29 PM. Reason : asdf]

3/24/2009 8:20:50 PM

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"NyM410, where have you seen his offer list and who is on it?"

... scout.com?

3/24/2009 8:26:25 PM

I think the point was that there are no other offers listed on Scout or Rivals.

3/24/2009 8:27:32 PM

do they not? they mentioned them in the article.

3/24/2009 8:28:19 PM

Tracy Smith was #47 overall on Rivals and the #10 PF. Scout had him at #70 overall and the #18 PF. Solid player anyway you put it though. I mean hell Taylor King was rated above him and he sucks.

3/24/2009 8:29:46 PM

^^ Yeah, no offers listed on Davis' page on either site. Which article are you talking about?

[Edited on March 24, 2009 at 8:31 PM. Reason : ^]

3/24/2009 8:31:14 PM

http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/849837.html

although i guess none of those were actual offers. MY BAD GUYS.

3/24/2009 8:33:21 PM

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"Click here to read the rest of this story..."

3/24/2009 8:35:43 PM

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"I mean hell Taylor King was rated above him and he sucks."

While true (at least so far, but he's got a couple more years of eligibility at 'Nova iirc), it seems like alot of people will point out a highly rated bust here or an unheralded guy becoming a star there as proof that recruiting rankings mean nothing. That is pretty myopic in my opinion. Recruiting is a crapshoot, but pulling in highly touted players gives you the best chance to have a good team. Plus I think recruiting rankings for basketball tend to be more accurate than for football since they are based on years and years of kids playing both in high school and on the AAU circuit where the level of talent is higher.

3/24/2009 8:37:24 PM

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"Davis finished second to Earnest Ross for player of the year in the Tri-Eight this season. He averaged 25.4 points. Interest came from UNC-Wilmington, Seton Hall, Charleston Southern, High Point and Old Dominion. “A lot of schools were getting ready to offer,” Davis said. For a long time Pack fan, it’s a special day. “They called me and asked me to come talk to Coach Lowe and they asked me if I was interested. I told them I’m committed and I wanted to join. It’s always been my dream. I’ve been a Pack fan since the first time I went to a game in 9th grade and I fell in love with it.”"

3/24/2009 8:41:35 PM

I don't believe that watching NCSU basketball when he was in 9th grade (3 years ago?) made him fall in love with us.

3/24/2009 8:49:34 PM

we were actually pretty good that year, at least until february and march iirc

[Edited on March 24, 2009 at 8:52 PM. Reason : wrong year]

3/24/2009 8:51:21 PM

^x4 Actually I was just trying to point out what a pleasant surprise Tracy has been this early on in his career at State and that he has really developed into a reliable player for us. He may have actually been underrated coming out of HS b/c he lost all that weight during his senior season. I expect him to be one of the stars next year and probably make All-ACC.

[Edited on March 24, 2009 at 8:53 PM. Reason : ]

3/24/2009 8:53:04 PM

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"monte towe is the one that scouted him and he's did a pretty good job in finding us a sleeper in scott wood."

What you mean is:

monte towe is the one that scouted him and he may or may not have done a pretty good job finding us a guy I really hope is a sleeper in scott wood.

3/24/2009 8:53:39 PM

anybody heard anything about jontel evans?

3/24/2009 8:54:10 PM

^^ lol, yeah i think that's what he means.

3/24/2009 8:55:12 PM

I think most people that have seen Wood play know how good he can become once he gets into a college weight program. That has been the only knock I've seen on him still. This year he has become more than just a pure shooter, and has improved his passing, dribbling, and driving skills since he was forced into playing point guard this year.

3/24/2009 8:57:03 PM

^^^^obviously we don't know how well kids will do until they get here, but we had been recruiting wood before anybody else was really giving him any looks and now he's in a tight race for mr. basketball honors.

monte towe was also on staff with norm sloan and played a big role in recruiting lowe, whittenberg and bailey.

[Edited on March 24, 2009 at 9:12 PM. Reason : champ]

3/24/2009 9:11:17 PM

i wonder if it's a big ego slam to work under someone you recruited 30 years ago

3/24/2009 9:37:21 PM

It's possible Davis fell through the cracks because he played for a low-hype AAU team (rather than say D-One), grew a lot late in HS and wasn't even at the Carolina Challenge that Telep/Scout put a ton of time into with regards to NC/SC recruits most of the time. It's also possible he's a scrub. Whatever. I'll wait until he gets in school to judge. I like that he actually wants to come in and work on his game, unlike some players we've had

btw I really doubt Scott Wood is going to win mr. basketball in indiana. We had people saying Mays was in the running for that last year too when he really wasn't. While I think Scott has a better chance than Julius, that has more to do with the fact that there isn't a Tyler Zeller running around in Indiana this year than anything else

3/24/2009 9:37:22 PM

wasn't davis a 2 star yesterday? hes only one star now?

3/24/2009 9:39:51 PM

he committed to state, and thus loses one star.

3/24/2009 9:43:28 PM

like how duke and unc recruits are McD AA's, ours lose stars...damn

3/24/2009 9:44:28 PM

^^^^Scott set it off this year, even with Zeller not there he has a very good shot at being mr. basketball, only thing in his way is that the other frontrunners are going to indiana and purdue

3/24/2009 9:45:50 PM

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"wasn't davis a 2 star yesterday? hes only one star now?"

I asked the same question earlier and was told to get the fuck out by one of the mods.

3/24/2009 9:50:09 PM

he's being evaluated. that's what it means.

3/24/2009 9:57:34 PM

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"Sigh. Here we go again. Keep your expectations in check. Davis is a good, coachable kid who you take a flyer on when you have a scholly open in hopes that in year 3 and 4 he can develop in to a contributor at this level. Lets not pencil him in as part of our rotation next year and expect him to contribute on the ACC level... Good God people."

i agree with all your points but nobody, or at least i am not, is saying he is going to be all acc 4 years in a row. its just crazy to see how people are just bashing this kid b/c they havent heard anything about him or b/c he doesnt have a lot of STAAAAAS.

this kid loves NCSU so he is going to come in here and play hard. plus, he stated in an interview how he plays with a chip on his shoulder b/c of being over looked

3/24/2009 10:47:25 PM

I realize its too early too know, and it sounds like Davis is a project-in-the-making, but 3rd highest scorer in NC (didn't I read that?) and NC-SC all-star MVP ain't too shabby.

3/24/2009 10:49:02 PM

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"Scott set it off this year, even with Zeller not there he has a very good shot at being mr. basketball, only thing in his way is that the other frontrunners are going to indiana and purdue"

yeah dude, we all read the packpride articles. what he's trying to say is that packpride is not exactly known for being unbiased.

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"plus, he stated in an interview how he plays with a chip on his shoulder b/c of being over looked"

woah, that means a lot.

[Edited on March 24, 2009 at 11:13 PM. Reason : wow.]

3/24/2009 11:12:28 PM

so any chance we land seth curry?

3/24/2009 11:15:51 PM