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GingaNinja
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Art Chansky LOLLER
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"Mike, I will answer you for all the comments below, as well. To Matt, I live on Planet Earth, where "easy classes" are a part of college life. Hell, there are websites that direct students to them at every school. Advisors in Steele Building were sending students over to AFAM! These classes may have TURNED OUT fraudulent, but they were offered and sanctioned by UNC when thousands of students (47 percent athletes) signed up for them. So far, there is no proof that any basketball player did not do the work assigned (why would they not, it was so easy). So no coach or banner is "going down." In fact, because so many non-athletes were involved, it's debatable whether this scandal is even in the purview of the NCAA. Generally, when this happens and there is no proof that any athlete or coach violated an NCAA rule, it usually remains a university issue. So, all of you, step back and take a deep breath. And, Alan, "not so bad" referred to the math that each basketball player took an average of one course that TURNED OUT to be fraudulent per year over the 18-year period.
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http://chapelboro.com/columns/sports-notebook/arts-angle-egg-uncs-face/

11/11/2014 3:00:36 PM

jbrick83
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Why the hell can't I see any comments on that article?

11/11/2014 3:26:54 PM

KeB
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you have to have an open facebook session i think. They are all facebook comment posts. But they do hit Art pretty hard that it basically goes against everything he preached about "The Carolina Way" for all those years so he HAS to keep the blue shades on and deflect and deny.

11/11/2014 4:03:33 PM

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"I'll start with "easy class". You know what an easy class is? One that has a syllabus, required attendance, mid-term and final exams. My Music survey class had these elements, as did my Thermodynamics class. One was "easy" one was...not. None of those elements were present in these "easy classes" you keep talking about. Which makes them...FAKE.

As for the basketball guys "doing all the work assigned to them". Well, obviously, if no work is assigned to them, then they indeed DID do all the work assigned to them. Over an 8 year period, Roy's Boys had 167 enrollments in fake classes. Not sure how math works on the planet you live on Art, but here on earth that's WAAAAAAY more than 1 per semester. It's about 10. I took 4 semesters of calculus and differential equations, so I think I've got the math part right here.

Now let's talk about the emails in the Wainstein report. You did read the emails he included in the supplemental info, right Art? Good, then you know that the emails indicate way more than AFAM was involved (Comm, Phil, Geography, EXSS among others). You know that 2 prominent coaches (Fox, Dorrence) are listed on emails discussing paper classes. You know that the "fake classes" did not end in 2011 because Dorrence has an email requesting 2 independant study classes for a RECRUIT in April 2012 (that must be at least 2 major violations). And you know Jan Boxill engaged in what is considered Pell Grant fraud by enrolling athletes into fake classes well into a semester so they can have enough hours to qualify for their Pell Grant checks. That doesn't even get into Tydreke Powell's comments yesterday where he admitted they were instructed to tank LD assessment tests so they could get "note takers" for their classes. This is going to get A WHOLE LOT WORSE before it ever gets better, Art. Buckle up!"


exactly.

11/11/2014 4:41:02 PM

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GUYS IT'S COOL - THE MATH SAYS EVERY BASKETBALL PLAYER ONLY TOOK ONE FAKE CLASS PER YEAR FOR TWO DECADES. THAT'S REALLY NOT THAT BAD!!

-Art Chansky

[Edited on November 11, 2014 at 9:42 PM. Reason : .]

11/11/2014 9:42:09 PM

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http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=78&f=1410&t=13363852

lol @ these delusional fuckers.

[Edited on November 15, 2014 at 8:59 AM. Reason : hey guys, taking numerous fake classes does not equate to a bullshit degree ]

11/15/2014 8:56:56 AM

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"Actually, Roy has had opportunities to defend himself and has done so. He says he did not know what AFAM was doing and feels strongly a coach should not meddle in academic affairs. He did steer his players away from AFAM, but only because they seemed to be "clustered" there and the university discourages clustering."



I only came here to get directions away from here.

11/15/2014 10:21:05 AM

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"Go back and do some homework on this issue. The classes were easy, not fake. Gonna just go ahead and ignore you as everything you write is idiotic."


hahaha

11/15/2014 12:50:55 PM

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HAHAHAHAAHAHA

Not only is that patently false...but the "do some homework" part was a bit of unintended humor that I greatly appreciated.

11/15/2014 1:08:03 PM

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"ESPN announcers need to have a list of real information provided to them if they are going to refer to the scandal in their broadcast. What he just said is slander."


Scorching hot take!!!

11/15/2014 1:14:56 PM

jaZon
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TIL: True statements are considered slander if they hurt someones feelings.

[Edited on November 15, 2014 at 1:21 PM. Reason : ]

11/15/2014 1:21:13 PM

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http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=78&f=1408&t=13362356

11/15/2014 3:34:34 PM

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hahaha. i don't live in NC right now, but isn't like in the 40s-50s today? that's definitely on the chilly side...but that post made it sound like they were toughing out a game at lambeau in decemeber.

11/15/2014 3:39:29 PM

TreeTwista10
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Anybody have a video clip or Vine of what Frachilla said?

[Edited on November 15, 2014 at 4:22 PM. Reason : link was already posted]

11/15/2014 4:19:11 PM

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"Just watched the game (recorded). Have to say, after reading this I did not expect to hear Fraschilla emphasize more than once that this was an academic scandal not an athletic one, or to mention that there are 70 departments on campus and only one was involved, or that most of the wrongdoing happened a long time ago, etc. Yes, the remark about Roy was out of bounds, but the reaction here seems a little silly to me"


judging by that post, Fran was more than fair to UNC. Sounds like he probably said that Roy should've known. Guess that's what most UNC fans are taking exception to

11/15/2014 4:21:26 PM

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"I would like to challenge ANY packpride poster to a battle of wits and intelligence, followed up by an obstacle course race. I am willing to bet that I will be triumphant in all areas."

11/15/2014 4:23:57 PM

dmspack
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I'd pay money to watch PP vs IC posters in a Brain Game/obstacle course challenge.

11/15/2014 4:25:19 PM

jaZon
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haha, same...but only with the stipulation that one of the challenges not be "talk nonsensical bullshit until your opponent passes out or just gives up so that you'll finally shut the fuck up"

I can just imagine them giving day long speeches about the intricacies of properly deepthroating dean smith

[Edited on November 15, 2014 at 5:00 PM. Reason : ]

11/15/2014 4:59:25 PM

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that fran fraschilla thread sums up everything about why I want them destroyed. I just wish that all the UNC fans could be gathered in one place with cameras everywhere when the NCAA penalties come. They could sell that footage at the gopack store next to Survive and Advance

11/15/2014 6:27:14 PM

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11/15/2014 6:49:26 PM

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"I just called this number for ESPN, 1-888-549-3776, that was posted on ZZL to issue a complaint in regards to Fran Fraschilla's unprofessional comments about Coach Roy Williams and Coach Smith. I pointed out that to call Coach Smith a liar was unprofessional enough, but to do so in the dome that was named for him, was inexcusable. The person said he would pass this on to a higher authority.

Yes, many scumbags will continue to ride this hot pony, but I think that Fraschilla's comments were beyond even ordinary scumbag comments."


god i wish we could get a recording of that call

11/15/2014 8:37:17 PM

jaZon
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I'm beginning to think a lot of these lunatics have framed pictures of Roy and Dean in their living rooms

[Edited on November 15, 2014 at 8:58 PM. Reason : ]

11/15/2014 8:58:27 PM

GingaNinja
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Hahaha, time to call that line

"Zigga Zumba" Lounge?

[Edited on November 16, 2014 at 12:16 AM. Reason : ]

11/16/2014 12:16:12 AM

TreeTwista10
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I didn't know what ZZL stood for, and still don't know what it means. But this was one of the first results google brought up

http://davzraves.blogspot.com/2005/08/what-does-zigga-zoomba-mean.html

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"See the life I was living my first semester at Carolina left me feeling vacant inside. Drinking, partying, smoking dope, screwing around -- they all left me with this unbearable ache. The life I had hoped for was all a fantasy. Real life was a lot different.

But even that was redemptive in a way. Because I sowed whatever wild oats I could that first semester, I came to realize my need for Christ.

And in January of my second semester, I asked Him to save me, and He did. And the fulfillment I had been looking for, and the peace I was missing and the hope that I had longed for suddenly were real. I went from being a Rocky Horror Picture Show freak to witnessing on campus in what was known as "the Pit" in front of the bookstore.

I went from sleeping around to telling my old girlfriends about Jesus. I went from staying out all night drinking to staying out at a prayer meeting. It was a radical change. It was such a change that people in the theatre department asked me "what has happened to you?!" And I could not help but tell them. "

11/16/2014 1:46:52 AM

jaZon
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lol

11/16/2014 1:48:49 AM

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^^He was fine until he referred to his old self as a "Rocky Horror Picture Show Freak". That insinuates that he thinks that people that do whe he used to do are freaks and no true Christian would refer to anyone as "Rocky Horror Picture Show Freaks". But whatever. I expect that from UNC fans.

11/16/2014 7:15:30 AM

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"I went from sleeping around to telling my old girlfriends about Jesus. "


I bet his ex's fucking hated him

11/16/2014 9:50:35 AM

Fry
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there were worse things he could do...

11/16/2014 10:11:58 AM

jaZon
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^^ haha, I was thinking the same

11/17/2014 2:38:30 AM

Dynasty2004
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YOU GUYS BETTER LEAVE DEAN ALONE OR ILL....

11/17/2014 8:27:50 AM

cptinsano
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If you replace "Jesus" with "Dean" that reads a lot funnier.

11/17/2014 9:11:34 AM

GingaNinja
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"Better stop being hyper sensitive. Anyone who doesn't love this program and university thinks exactly what Fran said. If you can't get past this life will be miserable for at least a year. After a season or two it will die down. UNLESS something else comes out."


lol

11/17/2014 1:02:38 PM

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10k of damages to a visiting locker room no big deal really

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"They are mad because they had several players suspended one game for shooting bb guns and we do $10,000 damage and get nothing. They should know shooting bb guns is assault with a deadly weapon and is a more serious offense."


EVERYONE DOES IT!
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"Stupid, but not anything more stupid than college kids everywhere do. I hope UNC checks with the NCAA first to make sure paying for the damage isn't interpreted as an impermissible benefit (said only half-jokingly)."


THIS CAN'T BE TRUE WE ARE UNC
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"My guess is this is much ado about nothing and you clowns are getting sucked in yet again by dishonest reporting (well, I mean those of you who aren't trolls)."


[Edited on November 25, 2014 at 8:02 AM. Reason : doh]

11/25/2014 8:01:57 AM

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@ICMeltdown

11/26/2014 2:43:19 PM

jaZon
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perfect pic on inside carolina

11/26/2014 2:50:02 PM

cptinsano
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full image:


wonder why they left that title up for so long

[Edited on November 26, 2014 at 3:08 PM. Reason : x]

11/26/2014 3:07:50 PM

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"I'm not the typical UNC fan. Where others will sit and take a mouthful from those inbred dolts I will give it right back to them.

Most of the time I just flash my Rams Club card to security and they are walked out of the stadium by a NC Highway Patrolman shortly after that.

Nothing, and I mean NOTHING is sweeter than the look on their faces when they are asked to stand up and follow the Patrolman."


This guy talks shit to opposing fans. Then whines to the cops.

11/26/2014 3:15:32 PM

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hahaha

11/26/2014 3:25:24 PM

moonman
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Ha! Sounds about right.

11/26/2014 3:27:02 PM

cptinsano
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I hope that in my lifetime I can witness someone "flashing" a rams club card.

Should be a good read: "Pathetic BS Whose To Blame"
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=78&f=1410&t=13410157

[Edited on November 26, 2014 at 3:35 PM. Reason : v]

11/26/2014 3:28:03 PM

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I stopped reading it when I saw this

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"a college basketball icon, like the University of North Carolina basketball team, coached by a hall of fame coach"

11/26/2014 3:48:37 PM

cptinsano
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There seems to be some competition over who worships dean more.

11/26/2014 3:54:40 PM

jaZon
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"I'm not the typical UNC fan. Where others will sit and take a mouthful from those inbred dolts I will give it right back to them."


lol, since when have any of these undeservedly elitist pricks balked at a chance to run their mouths about that diploma mill they worship?

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"I consider Dean Smith like a second father, just because I spent most of my youth listening or watching his teams, and I guess that made us close (HaHa)."


The funny bit is that there are plenty over at IC that will say exactly this without the HaHa and be dead serious.

[Edited on November 26, 2014 at 8:48 PM. Reason : ]

11/26/2014 8:44:19 PM

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"It's embarrassing when FSU or a real program humiliate the Heels with speed, skill and coaching. When you're rival that barely qualifies as an FBS school comes into your house and gives you swirlies... worst half in history."

11/29/2014 2:07:17 PM

Wyld Stallyn
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Barely qualifies as FBS? Well...Harvard and Yale are FCS.

11/29/2014 2:30:04 PM

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"Feel like the Cowboys game Thursday both them and Heels at home but both have no heart and the eagles and the pups talked junk leading up to the game and neither one of my teams are doing s--- about being called out."

of course he's also a cowboys fan.

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"State playjng big boy offense against girly defense. It's not rocket science"

another good one.

[Edited on November 29, 2014 at 3:17 PM. Reason : girly defense lol]

11/29/2014 3:06:51 PM

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Cant wait to see the reaction after the catch interference

11/29/2014 3:17:06 PM

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"ibleeduncblue2
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bet Yow is doing cartwheels in her thong bout now"

11/29/2014 3:17:24 PM

TreeTwista10
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"I hope Joel James breaks some Peckers face open when we play them."

11/29/2014 3:20:13 PM

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"LOL...roughing the kicker. And, Doeren takes the FG off of the board, in order to run up the score.

A real class act, that Doeren guy."

LOL. did they expect him to be like "nah i'm good, decline the penalty we'll just take the 3, those guys need a win"?

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"Poor Carolina football we can't even complete a retaliatory dirty play correct"

LOLOL

[Edited on November 29, 2014 at 3:25 PM. Reason : hahaha]

11/29/2014 3:21:53 PM

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