MORR1799 All American 3051 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'd say there goes our chance at landing a quality QB in this class. " |
I take back what I said. I forgot we're still in good with Durham's Vad Lee. Though it is unknown whether he projects as a QB in college.7/12/2010 1:09:41 PM |
fenway All American 3135 Posts user info edit post |
Hopefully we can land Lee and Rivers. Lee may not project to be a QB, but at least he's athletic. UNC winning and going to a bowl the last 2 years is why they're out-recruiting us right now. Hopefully they'll fall on their faces this year and Butch's regime can follow the similar path that Amato's staff took here, a lot of early hype and then a quick decline into nothing. I know its early, but TOB really needs a big season to get any kind of momentum if we're not going to do much recruiting for anything other than for depth this year. 7/12/2010 1:37:23 PM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
You know it's bad when Duke is out-recruiting us. 7/12/2010 2:15:42 PM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
I don't know what to take from these long snapping videos. Kind of funny and sad.
http://www.fbf.com/film/snap_w10/ 7/12/2010 10:51:57 PM |
khufu All American 2103 Posts user info edit post |
Thomas Niles decommits per Rivals 7/13/2010 5:03:23 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
I knew this year would suck due to the ebb & flow of recruiting (we usually alternate with UNC with having the top in-state class), but we are sucking it up right now. 7/13/2010 5:30:35 PM |
hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
commence Packpride melt down. 7/13/2010 5:48:58 PM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
damn, we're really shitting the bed...if we have a bad season and recruiting doesn't pick up in a major way it's going to be hard to justify keeping O'Brien. 7/13/2010 5:50:39 PM |
mofopaack Veteran 434 Posts user info edit post |
this is like 9/11 times 1000 7/13/2010 6:03:31 PM |
Wolfood98 All American 2684 Posts user info edit post |
THis in NO WAY compares to 9/11 idiot! 7/13/2010 6:09:19 PM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
It was pretty hard to justify keeping O'Brien this year imo 7/13/2010 6:14:56 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Why am I not surprised that you've never seen Team America: World Police 7/13/2010 6:22:54 PM |
WolfMiami All American 8766 Posts user info edit post |
People always say that early recruiting doesn't matter, but its the name of the game these days. This kid would have felt much more comfortable as an NCSU recruit if we had 9 or 10 solid guys also on the commit list. People need shit to talk about, and want to make new friends, and tell all of their high school possee about the other recruits they are coming in with. TOB needs to get on the stick early and often if he wants to be a player next year, we need a good group early, good middle guys, and good late sleepers too. 7/13/2010 6:28:28 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
I've missed 4 or 5 games home games max since birth, and this is the least I've ever looked forward to a football season. The only sliver of light is I'll get to watch one of the best players in the history of the program play his probable final season. 7/13/2010 6:44:06 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "this is the least I've ever looked forward to a football season" |
7/13/2010 6:48:35 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The only sliver of light is I'll get to watch one of the best players in the history of the program play his probable final season." |
...but his talents will be completely wasted just like THE best player in our history's were 7/13/2010 6:58:54 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
Just sayin
our defense will be improved
just sayin 7/13/2010 8:57:45 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
I still think we have a better year next season
But the program is headed downward. Hopefully our new AD takes notice 7/14/2010 12:08:50 AM |
MORR1799 All American 3051 Posts user info edit post |
At least there is still a lot of talent out there up for grabs. I think I remeber the staff was looking to only bring in about 15 guys this year. There are still 20-25 recruits out there in the 4-5* range that are under our radar. But maybe we only get 1-2 of those if we're lucky.
I expect us to land Jared Barber and Vad Lee. They should be solid pick-ups. It would be huge if we got Stephone Anthony, although I can see him going to Clemson, USC, or some other SEC school. So many of these damn SEC are coming after our recruits, it makes it hard to compete. 7/14/2010 10:41:50 AM |
Wadhead1 Duke is puke 20897 Posts user info edit post |
Just got Punter Will Baumann - SUCK IT BUTCH. 7/14/2010 2:57:03 PM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
It's a sad state of affairs for the program when we get excited about a punter committing, because at least it's not a de-commitment. 7/14/2010 3:06:28 PM |
Wadhead1 Duke is puke 20897 Posts user info edit post |
It was more tounge-in-cheek, want me to add this as well.
7/14/2010 3:21:42 PM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
He's rated the #2 punter nationally.
http://varsitynow.blogs.starnewsonline.com/14750/hoggard-punter-weighing-scholarship-options/ http://www.chrissailerkicking.com/top-recruits/2011.html#Punters
At 6-5, he's bound to get some of wayward snaps Scott Thompson will likely throw. 7/14/2010 3:28:46 PM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
how many games do you think we've punted ourselves out of in the past few seasons? I can't think of any off hand (probably drank those turrible memories away) but I feel certain that if we had a punter worthy of a D1 scholarship the past few season we would have at least been in a handful of games that we lost 7/14/2010 3:32:21 PM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
Sweet video of him punting and kicking-off
http://embedr.com/playlist/will-baumann-willmington-nc-class-of-2011-kickerpunter 7/14/2010 3:52:28 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Unless we see some serious improvement from some of these freshman and sophomores, I think we are going to suck next year and TOB will probably need to go ahead and retire/be fired because if the recruiting isn't there and the player development isn't there, then there is no reason to think we'll ever get better than 5-7. 7/14/2010 4:09:04 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ If you mean punt the ball straight into a rusher's hands for a runback, none. On the other hand, spotting the other team 100+ yards per game in field position and setting up long returns with poor kicks is a poor way to start any game, especially when you don't have a stout defense. We've given up more than our fair share of poor field position from bad punts and kickoffs shanked out of bounds the last year or two. 7/14/2010 4:21:51 PM |
wstcoastwolf All American 1642 Posts user info edit post |
6 yard punt 7/14/2010 7:03:35 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
So we've got the #2 punter, #3 long snapper, and a walk-on kicker who reneged on a app state scholarship coming in in '11. not a bad (special teams) class. we just need a top5 holder, and we're golden! kidding, this is good news. wasn't ward rated pretty high? 7/14/2010 7:10:20 PM |
Fermata All American 3771 Posts user info edit post |
If TOB was fired, who do you honestly think we could hire? I don't foresee that many good options.
I really wanted Paul Johnson when he was available. Winning 8+ games every year would have been fine with me. 7/14/2010 9:39:02 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
paul johnson would have been the next herb sendek
state is fucking cursed, it doesn't matter how good of a coach you are. sure he's winning 8-9 games and beating UGA, but if he came here we would rule the shitter. I used to think this line of reasoning was a joke, but now i'm convinced its true. 7/14/2010 9:47:18 PM |
Fermata All American 3771 Posts user info edit post |
NC State shit in football is mostly related to special teams and injuries. Both of which matter less in that system. 7/14/2010 9:53:46 PM |
wstcoastwolf All American 1642 Posts user info edit post |
NC State shit in football is having good offense and good defense in alternating time periods and never at the same time 7/14/2010 10:38:29 PM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
NC State shit is what we will be putting on the field this year
7/14/2010 10:52:55 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If TOB was fired, who do you honestly think we could hire? I don't foresee that many good options." |
I hear we have some sick facilities to lock people into7/14/2010 11:10:19 PM |
beergolftile All American 9030 Posts user info edit post |
If TOB keeps beating UNC, he can keep his job forever.
Delusional state fans think we are going to be a top contender every year (ask Clemson how that's working out for them).
Let's be happy that we beat those fags for three years. There is something special about sucking dick and still beating those fuckers. 7/15/2010 12:58:54 AM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
clemson is light years beyond where ncstate is as a program...
and ncstate hasn't beaten clemson since 2003. its getting quite ridiculous. 7/15/2010 8:52:19 AM |
MORR1799 All American 3051 Posts user info edit post |
^ I think beergolftile was focusing moreso on Clemson's delusional fans rather than the comparison between the two programs. Sure they may be ahead of us, but they haven't fallen short of badly disappointing their fans the past several years, hence the firing of Tommy.
Anyways, bttt, things are looking good for us with another recruit; I hope we can land him.
http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2010/07/14/vad-lee-plans-to-name-a-leader-christian-lemay-style/?cxntfid=blogs_recruiting
Quote : | "Tech target Vad Lee plans to ‘name a leader’ Christian LeMay style
Vad Lee, Georgia Tech’s top quarterback target, plans to “name a leader” a la Christian LeMay within the next three weeks.
The 6-foot-2, 193-pound athlete from Durham, N.C., is good friends with LeMay, a University of Georgia pledge, and is strongly considering handling his recruitment the same way as that five-star prospect. That is, to name a leader rather than to full-out commit.
“I think I’m going to do the Christian LeMay thing,” Lee said in a telephone interview on Wednesday. “Me and Christian have been talking a little bit and I really like what he did when he named a leader and all that. So I may take that approach and name a leader. That way there won’t be too much pressure on me but I can still take my five visits. I want to do that.”
LeMay, who had upward of 30 scholarship offers, named a final five at a press conference in late April and tabbed the Bulldogs as the school at which he “intends to enroll.” But LeMay reserves the right to look harder at his other finalists, including Auburn, Clemson, Notre Dame and Texas A&M.
Lee doesn’t have quite as many overall offers as LeMay (about a dozen or so). But Lee is set on taking his maximum of five official visits this fall and wants to do so with a clean conscience.
“I can say my list is N.C. State, Georgia Tech, Duke, Wake Forest and Maryland, probably in that order,” Lee said. “Those are my plans for official visits.”
In the meantime, Lee has stayed busy getting to know each one better. He was at N.C. State last weekend. He’s going to Wake Forest this weekend. He plans to return to Georgia Tech on July 20th and will try to get to Maryland sometime after that.
After all that Lee thinks he’ll have enough information to name a leader.
“Before the season definitely; sometime in August, maybe even the end of this month,” he said of a possible decision date. “But it wont go past August 7th. It won’t go past that.”
That’s when Hillside High’s preseason practices begin in earnest.
“I want to have an idea where I’m going and where I feel most comfortable at by then,” Lee said. “But I’m still gonna take my five official visits, probably.”
According to Lee, Georgia Tech will be willing to wait. He said he is being recruited purely as a quarterback and is being told he is the Jackets’ No. 1 target at the position.
“They’re set on me as their quarterback; they remind me of that every day,” Lee said. “They want me as their quarterback running their offense. They feel like I can bring so much more to their offense since I can throw the ball and I’m able to run. They say they’re going to open it up a little more with me.”
Lee shared his thoughts on N.C. State and Wake Forest as well.
Wake Forest: “I’m actually going to Wake Forest Saturday. They’ve definitely been impressing me with the recruiting thing and keeping in contact with me. They’ve been wanting me to get up there for the longest and I actually have an opportunity this weekend, so I’m really looking forward to that. They’re going to a shotgun/option kind of thing [on offense]. They’re going to stay pretty much balanced, not run-oriented like Georgia Tech, but there will be a lot of running of the quarterback and run-throw option for the quarterback. I really don’t have a good feel for it right now but I’ll know a lot more about it after I visit.”
N.C. State: “They’re a pro-style offense and that’s why I like them. It’s not the only reason but I have plans to go to the NFL. They’re more of a pro-style offense. They throw the ball a lot. Coach [Tom] O’Brien’s staff at Boston College they were top three in passing in the ACC and they’re doing the same thing at N.C. State. I like to throw the ball around and that’s why I like them. And they’ve probably as consistent with me as anybody.”
As for the Jackets, Lee said he hadn’t really seriously considered them until making an unofficial visit earlier this summer.
“I went to Atlanta and, to be honest, I wasn’t really expecting much,” he said. “But they really impressed me and that’s why I want to go back. I want to learn more.”" |
7/15/2010 9:36:48 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
If I was a nationally ranked punter, I would definitely want to come here. Although you would have gotten more exposure during the Stone/Davis/Evans year, you'll still get plenty of punts in with our offensive line and whatever ineptitude we have at QB after Wilson and Glennon are gone. 7/15/2010 10:31:42 AM |
ZincMachWon All American 888 Posts user info edit post |
We seem to be fine at QB after Wilson and Glennon with Brosius, and possibly Rivers, waiting in the wings. Why are you so down on QB play? 7/15/2010 11:10:54 AM |
Wadhead1 Duke is puke 20897 Posts user info edit post |
Thomas Niles commits to UCF 7/15/2010 11:16:01 AM |
MORR1799 All American 3051 Posts user info edit post |
dammit Niles, why would you want to go to Central Florida? 7/15/2010 11:29:16 AM |
spydyrwyr All American 3021 Posts user info edit post |
^girls. 7/15/2010 11:31:14 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Why are you so down on QB play?" |
I'm just down on NC State. It doesn't matter who plays QB...we're probably gonna blow.7/15/2010 11:46:26 AM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ maybe he's never been to Disney World
[Edited on July 15, 2010 at 11:52 AM. Reason : ] 7/15/2010 11:51:44 AM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
It's quite hard to beleive that you Fuckers are so down on our team. What he he'll do you think the staff has been doing for 9 months, sitting on their asses?
Buncha packpride whining douche bags. " our team is shit, our coaches are shit, nc state is shit."
fuck you.
Go cry to your mamma and leave football to the real nc state fans, pussies. 7/15/2010 12:18:23 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Go cry to your mamma and leave football to the UNrealISTIC nc state fans, pussies." |
7/15/2010 12:24:36 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
^good one, but i actually think BEU had it right the first time. no reason to come bitching and moaning in the recruiting thread.
Vvery well. you've stated the obvious. now you can go to PP and get in arguments about it.
[Edited on July 15, 2010 at 12:54 PM. Reason : ] 7/15/2010 12:27:11 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
That's what everyone has been doing for the past couple of pages because of our lack in number and quality of commitments. Don't see any reason to not state the obvious. 7/15/2010 12:29:45 PM |
titans78 All American 4038 Posts user info edit post |
The recruits are reading this and it is why they aren't coming. Duh. 7/15/2010 12:32:11 PM |