Candian comedy duo prank call the real Sarah Palin, audio to be released on eve of elections:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1108/Sarkozy_calling.html?showall

11/1/2008 3:11:44 PM

Regarding Senator McCain's claim that Senator Obama's campaign contributions lack transparency, is there any evidence to back such assertions?

11/1/2008 3:31:50 PM

^ I don't think so

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary.php?id=N00006424&cycle2=2008&goButt2.x=9&goButt2.y=6&goButt2=Submit

Obama is at 90% full disclosure vs 87% for McCain

11/1/2008 3:33:41 PM

I was talking to Shrike about this earlier, but I really wish McCain could just lose already so that I don't have to have my football ruined by all these ads.

11/1/2008 3:52:28 PM

I just read all 88 pages of this thread, and I can now concur that regardless the outcome, we are fucked.

11/1/2008 6:58:21 PM

HOLY SHIT!!!!!

http://www.tindeck.com/audio/filestore/w/wwdo-SarahPalin.mp3

damn!!!

11/1/2008 7:13:34 PM

i tried listening to that, and had to shut it off after less than 2 minutes.

all i can say is that's pretty fucked up.

because it doesnt make Sarah Palin look stupid, it makes the people who did that look stupid, and it makes the people who approve of such shenanigans look stupid.

and to some extent, it reflects badly on Obama supporters if only because we get lumped together with idiots who do this and who approve of this sort of thing.

it actually makes me sympathize with Sarah Palin if anything.

impersonating a foriegn head of state to perpetuate a hoax against a government official? IANAL, but i'll bet this is illegal, and i hope the guys who did it are prosecuted.

11/1/2008 7:26:25 PM

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"Candian comedy duo prank call the real Sarah Palin, audio to be released on eve of elections: http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1108/Sarkozy_calling.html?showall"

Oh joy, more media manipulation of this election! And Canadian media, at that!

11/1/2008 7:30:11 PM

^^ i agree it was pretty lame

11/1/2008 7:32:17 PM

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"do you conservatives know that the Washington Times is a front org for the Moonies? seriously. The Washington Times is owned by the Reverend Sun Myung Moon. Look it up."

Wait, "guilt by association" doesn't fly when it's put on Obama, but it's OK when it's not? wat?

I remember when libbies got all pissed off that Bush would play nice with some media outlets and not others. Now Obama is doing the same thing, and there's no problem at all with that. makes sense to me

11/1/2008 7:34:52 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,445872,00.html

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"VAN SUSTEREN: When you talk to Senator McCain, is it mostly about strategy or are you talking big picture right now? GOV. SARAH PALIN: Both. Both. But not so much strategy about the campaign at all because we both are so confident that we are on the right path, and in these final days of the campaign, we're acknowledging that people are understanding the stark contrast between the two tickets. And that's good. This is the place we need to be right here, still as a bit of an underdog in these last few days, but realizing that Americans are really starting to hear what our opponents are talking about when they talk about spreading the wealth, taking more from our small businesses and from our families and then redistributing other people's hard-earned money according to a politician's priorities, that that is -- that is not good for this uniquely American, pro-entrepreneurial system that we have that has allowed our country to be the greatest country on earth. We realize that more and more Americans are starting to see the light there and understand the contrast. And we talk a lot about, OK, we're confident that we're going to win on Tuesday, so from there, the first 100 days, how are we going to kick in the plan that will get this economy back on the right track and really shore up the strategies that we need over in Iraq and Iran to win these wars?"

ummm... what?

11/1/2008 9:08:25 PM

^^ okay. so you think its okay if a media outlet is run by a religious cult.

that their "reporting" is totally unbiased and uninfluenced by the cult-leader-newspaper-owner.

i guess "Final Call" is also a credible media resource for you too?

11/1/2008 9:41:52 PM

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"really shore up the strategies that we need over in Iraq and Iran to win these wars"

wat

11/1/2008 10:03:06 PM

11/1/2008 10:05:35 PM

^ palin told those prank callers she'd run in 8 years.

11/1/2008 10:14:46 PM

^^^ do we need to get into CNN with Ted Turner and the moonbat things he's been saying, too? Or, is it really OK to be paling around w/ terrorists like Bill Ayers? What about Reverend Wright? You can't have it both ways, buddy, and you know it.


btw, who won the halloween mask competition?


wow, I like Obama's slam on the Cheney endorsement as "proof" that McCain would continue the Bush policies. Hmmm, I'll bet we could find some terrorists somewhere that would "endorse" Obama. Does that mean Obama would advance policies of terrorists? seriously, it is a shame that our electorate has been so dumbed down by our vaunted educational system that they are swayed by such bullshit

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 12:02 AM. Reason : ]

11/1/2008 11:53:56 PM

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"wow, I like Obama's slam on the Cheney endorsement as "proof" that McCain would continue the Bush policies. "

Yeah, it's just campaign rhetoric. But it's not like that looks good for McCain.

And that prank call was stupid and kind of cruel.

11/2/2008 1:52:14 AM

^^ I think Palin would the halloween masks

http://www.gallup.com/poll/111661/Gallup-Daily-Obama-52-McCain-42-Among-Likely-Voters.aspx

And how is it possible that Gallup's expanded and traditional models align? Seems kind of odd...

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 1:59 AM. Reason : ]

11/2/2008 1:55:03 AM

It's interesting to look at the breakdown of their poll numbers. Obama doesn't have the white vote, but the strong minority support makes up for it. He is basically winning because of minorities. Particularly women minorities, because the race would be tied without them.

11/2/2008 2:39:55 AM

As though it matters at all...

Comedian Stephen Colbert endorses Obama:
http://www.hulu.com/watch/41590/the-colbert-report-the-word---i-endorse-barack-obama#s-p1-st-i1

11/2/2008 6:51:19 AM

WTF is this shit? A civilian paramilitary force?

11/2/2008 11:04:32 AM

Can you not deduce that he's talking about police, airport security, port security, border security, etc? Things that are still woefully lacking.



[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM. Reason : .]

11/2/2008 11:16:40 AM

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"Can you not deduce that he's talking about police, airport security, port security, border security, etc? Things that are still woefully lacking."

Yea, except that doesn't sound anything like what he said. If you deduce he meant police then you are making a wild leap from the words he spoke to what you want to hear.

This guy is pretty scary with some of his ideas, and people refuse to question him on almost everything, which is even scarier.

11/2/2008 12:14:14 PM

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"Yea, except that doesn't sound anything like what he said."

it doesn't?

then, wise one, please explain what he really meant

11/2/2008 12:37:01 PM

He was obviously talking about training and arming a civilian militia

11/2/2008 12:54:47 PM

11/2/2008 2:19:52 PM

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"then you are making a wild leap"

Good god...

I AM MAKING THE WILD LEAP?

I AM?

REALLY?

11/2/2008 2:35:09 PM

wow, amazing. Obama's tax proposals just keep putting the upper class at a lower income range. First it was 250k, then it was 200k, then Biden says 150k. Now, Bill Richardson says 120k. Look out America, looks like Obama's first "change" will be in his campaign promises. Don't say I didn't tell you so

11/2/2008 3:09:16 PM

^how about you just don't say anything. you didn't vote.

and honestly, this country is a trillion dollars in debt. everyone who pays taxes is going to have to feel a pinch. i don't think it's unreasonable for either candidate to win and say, "hey guys, we're going to work toward my initial tax plan within the next four years, but we have to roll up our sleeves together and get this country out of the gutter right now."


v when you get cornered, you seem to rely on swearing and name calling. i thought i had a good point, but you've convinced me that i am a fucktard, so clearly i'm wrong.

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"How about you and I enter into an agreement, say, you give me 100 bux and I'll wash your car. You then give me the 100 bux, but I tell you "oh, sorry, my dog died, I can't wash your car today. How about next year?""

did you just compare our economy being the worst it's ever been since the great depression to your dog dying? because i think you did.

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 3:28 PM. Reason : ]

11/2/2008 3:13:02 PM

how about you don't say anything because you are continuing to support a clearly broken system, you fucktard. I'm glad to see that logic has no sway upon you

haha, "we're gonna have to roll up our sleeves until i keep my promises." i tell you what. How about you and I enter into an agreement, say, you give me 100 bux and I'll wash your car. You then give me the 100 bux, but I tell you "oh, sorry, my dog died, I can't wash your car today. How about next year?" You would probably be pissed, wouldn't you? But wait, next year comes around, and I have another excuse. Then another, then another. Eventually, you realize that you got fucked.

11/2/2008 3:20:57 PM

add this to the list of McCain supporters acting like jackasses at his rallies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vagD-4AH4Vc

I will state again - when I went to the Obama speech last week, I was extremely pleased with how polite and docile the crowd was.
When standing in line, there was a guy walking up and down the line with a "CHANGE? WAKE UP" poster with that picture of Obama in his Kenyan clothing. I didn't see a single person in line confront, yell at, or try to argue with him. Nearly everyone I saw looked at the sign, then went on with their normal conversations.

11/2/2008 5:20:45 PM

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" I will state again - when I went to the Obama speech last week, I was extremely pleased with how polite and docile the crowd was. When standing in line, there was a guy walking up and down the line with a "CHANGE? WAKE UP" poster with that picture of Obama in his Kenyan clothing. I didn't see a single person in line confront, yell at, or try to argue with him. Nearly everyone I saw looked at the sign, then went on with their normal conversations."

i saw that guy and thought the exact same thing

11/2/2008 5:30:28 PM

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"polite and docile"

Yeah, that is what I want in an educated citizenry

11/2/2008 5:39:30 PM

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"Yeah, that is what I want in an educated citizenry"

You would rather have torches and looting perhaps?

Also, it is possible for an educated citizenry to be polite and calm while still dissenting, if you're somehow implying the opposite... in fact, I'm really not sure what point you're trying to make, or whether or not you're being sarcastic.

11/2/2008 5:43:55 PM

obama has been friends (publicly) with a man for over 20 years who said to reporters that the american patriotism after 9/11 was "sickening" .. but a few mccain supporters deep in the crowd heckle mccains speech and in fact make mccain look bad in turn for something out of his control ... obama had no control over his friends and his choice of friends right? no need to make him look bad .. but less than a half-dozen mccain supporters yell ignorant things about obama and mccain is portrayed as racist

11/2/2008 5:45:53 PM

How is McCain portrayed as racist?

I understand if you're referring to biased "news" sites on the internet, or even to over-hyped mainstream media outlets... I don't watch either, I wouldn't know... but I don't think anyone on TSB (or at least anyone with a credible opinion on TSB) has tried to portray McCain as racist himself. After all, McCain did have to publicly denounce all the shameful shit once it got out of hand, and most everyone here recognized that.

11/2/2008 5:49:15 PM

i think there is an immediate association of what the people in the crowd are saying, to the person speaking to them ... regardless if its 1 person or 100

but these videos were posted with one attempt, to show mccain supporters as racist


and mind you, obamanites have heckled mccains crowds more than the opposite, but we dont hear them

11/2/2008 6:01:43 PM

^If McCain supporters are saying racist things, then obviously said supporters are racist and deserve to be portrayed as such.

Of course, if people making these videos (I assume you mean YouTube and the like... it's certainly a sophisticated den of knowledge and polite behavior, the perfect place to get the news) are sweepingly referring to all McCain supporters as racist based on the actions of a select few racists... then they're just dicks... and as far as I know most rational people (specifically on TSB) would agree with me on that statement.

11/2/2008 6:06:03 PM

so the point of showing soundbites of 1 of the random 2 rallies with racist fucks in the crowd is what?


its just an attempt to show mccain as a candidate that supports racism .. or else it would be a video of footage that shows him as a candidate expressing issues instead .. OR issues that the poster does not support

11/2/2008 6:12:16 PM

My point here is that there's no point at all in arguing over anything posted on YouTube and similar sites. The site is a haven for dumbfuckery, and no one with half a working brain is going to take anything posted there as credible or revolutionary or even mildly entertaining, in most cases.

It's comparable to getting pissed at the supreme attitudes taken by white supremacists or the violent attitudes of muslim terrorists... they're fucking extremist, and YouTube is just the extreme of stupid. (The problem, of course, is that too many people in society actually IDENTIFY with this youtube extremism... but stupid will be stupid, and it lands on both sides of the political spectrum)

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 6:21 PM. Reason : .]

11/2/2008 6:20:17 PM

Here comes the Wright ads in PA.

McCain your campaign is a dirty piece of shit, you said you'd have nothing to do with this. And just because it went up through proxy of GOP party in Pennsylvania doesn't protect you from the charge.

I've about had it with this shit, I hope he Rove and the rest of the GOP get blasted in 2 days. I can actually see their hand grasping in one last ditch effort at the controls of power in Washington

11/2/2008 6:28:12 PM

well its also on most of the news, all day and all night ... the only soundbite they play is that part


and then discuss how this has no class, and mccain this and mccain that .. and its all a completely ridiculous association


esp when the footage of obama is godlike ... how is that comparable

11/2/2008 6:28:23 PM

TKE, Do you happen to recall just how much of Hillary Clinton's (metaphorical) cock the media was sucking on back in the primaries? And how much they took McCain's "He's the biggest celebrity in the world..." ad and just ate it the fuck up?

The media is just about the only reason this election was so close for so long... they get more viewers when it's a tighter race, so they kept it close till they saw the opportunity to create an even bigger shitstorm over Palin's appointment and then the housing market collapse.

The media is biased towards whatever gets them the most ratings. And right now, for everyone except Fox News, pro-Obama = good ratings. And for Fox News, being conservative = guaranteed built-in viewer base. And for shows like SNL... well, they seem to think inserting their opinions makes the humor better, but this is just another reason it's not as good as it used to be.

To some degree, all this speaks to the fact that media producers are scumbags... but we knew that about them already. On the other hand, it also serves to re-iterate the fact that more people like Obama, and the media has followed them (not vice-versa).

11/2/2008 6:38:07 PM

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"WTF is this shit? A civilian paramilitary force?"

Am I the only person who heard "civilian national security force" and no mention of "paramilitary" ?

11/2/2008 6:50:25 PM

This pic is bizarre

11/2/2008 7:18:00 PM

^McCain looks more like a porcelain Chia Pet than a black man. That might be part of the bizzare-ness. Also the fact that they gave Obama what is essentially the hair of John Edwards.

11/2/2008 7:25:11 PM

It looks like Obama will be spending tomorrow evening, election eve, in Charlotte NC.

11/2/2008 9:47:49 PM

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"Am I the only person who heard "civilian national security force" and no mention of "paramilitary" ? "

Don't the right-wing gun nuts yearn for a civilian paramilitary force anyway? It's like their 2nd amendment dream come true.

I can't see any interpretation of Obama's statement that should upset them.

11/2/2008 9:49:33 PM

^Obama was speaking about police, airport workers, and other civilians working for the government in the area of security. There is a vast difference between these professions and an average gun owner.

With regards to the spirit of the second amendment, the former has weapons to work for the government. The latter has weapons (at least in theory) to act against the government in favor of the general populace if the need arises. Obviously a police vs gun-owner war is likely to never happen, but that was at least the spirit in which the founding fathers wrote the amendment.

11/2/2008 9:58:16 PM

damn this aint never gonna get to page 100 by tuesday

11/2/2008 9:59:04 PM