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Ima get me a Reverend today.

4/15/2008 11:25:13 AM

Do you have any recordings of your music I could hear? I'd like to hear some..

4/15/2008 2:09:43 PM

^^ A guitar or an amp?

4/15/2008 3:01:34 PM

Guitar...Jetstream 390.



I'll post a better picture and some thoughts after work tonight.

4/16/2008 1:16:45 PM

So i need 2 things.

an ebow and a slide.

ebow: check.
Slide: i have no idea about slides. I play heavily distorted stuff on "metal" guitars does that effect the material of slide i'm going to pick?


http://youtube.com/watch?v=75rXVhI0-hc&feature=related
5:08 type sounds

4/17/2008 12:49:16 AM

Get a glass slide and call it a day.

fyi, guy in the video is also using a glass slide.

4/17/2008 12:54:22 AM

I've had enough time with the Jetstream 390 to get a hold on it...it's one of the most versatile guitars I've ever used.

It's a 25.5" (Fender-style) scale with a bolt-on maple/maple neck but a very Gibson-like body makeup (chambered korina with a spruce top) that lends itself to the P-90 sound while also giving the feel of a semi-hollow guitar. The middle pickup by itself gives me a sound akin to the very best I can coax out of an Epi Casino without the feedback. The bridge pickup is a little more brittle than a Les Paul Junior, probably due to the longer scale, but the neck is nice and warm.

The place where this guitar really impresses is in its 2/4 positions and in its control makeup. The in-between positions are wired like a Strat, so you get a version of the Strat "quack" but with P-90s, a little more chimey than normal. The key is that in addition to the normal high-rolloff tone knob, Reverends also have a "Contour" control that initially rolls off the bass and then turns the pickups inside-out in the last third of a turn and really gets as close as you can to a Strat without having to sacrifice the full growl of a P-90.

4/19/2008 5:33:40 PM

http://www.buildyourownclone.com/
anyone?

4/22/2008 12:36:46 AM

^ Got a trem from them.

4/22/2008 12:42:50 AM

anyone own or have reasonable experience with a jazzmaster? I'd like to hear some more about it from someone who has played one firsthand. How does the tremolo play (and sound) in comparison to say a strat?

4/22/2008 2:35:13 AM

^^^^ good overall review.

id definitely like to mess with some guitars and amps that are not metal at all someday, but for now all my money keeps finding its way into the rig that I am using live (which makes sense). Im pretty lopsided as far as my gearhead knowledge goes.

4/22/2008 8:22:10 AM

yeah... i kind of want to buy a set of gear for doom/drone/stoner metal/rock.


Sunn Concert Lead
and a Gibson LP if they weren't 900 lbs.

4/22/2008 8:32:01 AM

haha. thatd be the perfect setup though. soldano works for sludge too.

[Edited on April 22, 2008 at 8:42 AM. Reason : ]

4/22/2008 8:42:06 AM

Sure, guitars are awesome--but don't drums really do it for you?

http://www.drumdoctors.com/uploaded_images/silverCC-002-721562.jpg



BTW, those crushed-glass glitter finishes that C&C, DW, and others are using are the shit. The glass sparkle is so much better than the old stuff.

[Edited on April 22, 2008 at 12:27 PM. Reason : durrr]

4/22/2008 8:45:23 AM

smaller image pl0x
i mean if it was related to the topic...

4/22/2008 8:53:23 AM

and there's a drums thread

4/22/2008 9:05:16 AM

walls, your friend that raves about splawn cabinets, does he own one? and if so, what speaker setup does he use?

4/22/2008 12:09:36 PM

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"anyone own or have reasonable experience with a jazzmaster? I'd like to hear some more about it from someone who has played one firsthand. How does the tremolo play (and sound) in comparison to say a strat?"

You should've seen this coming...but Jazzmaster pickups are very much like P-90s, so the sound is similar. It's a thicker, boxier sound than a Strat or Tele, but a little more sparkly than an LP (but not as much bass). The tremelo is much smoother than a Strat IMO, because there's more leverage between you and the springs. All of the soft, wavy tremelo you hear out of bands like My Bloody Valentine and Sonic Youth comes from the smoothness of the Jazzmaster/Jaguar trem action.

4/22/2008 2:56:05 PM

alright, so im getting a splawn 4x12. Slant cab body with straight speaker baffle. probably ordering today.

Orange tolex with tan grille cloth, Black tolex with tan grille cloth, or Black tolex with silver grille cloth?

[Edited on April 25, 2008 at 1:51 PM. Reason : ]

4/25/2008 1:50:51 PM

black with tan

evokes older marshalls, but doesn't grab another brand's trademark and run with it

you don't want an orange cab that isn't an orange cab, y'know

4/25/2008 2:03:06 PM

yea youre probably right. i love the look of orange amps but it prob would be kind of cheesy to get one that looked like orange that wasnt an orange brand.

and i kind of felt the same way about the black and tan. has somewhat of a vintage feel to it which i liked.

[Edited on April 25, 2008 at 2:16 PM. Reason : ]

4/25/2008 2:16:16 PM

ordered. black tolex, tan cloth, white piping. 4x Vintage 30s. got a minor endorsement so i got this at a wonderful price and the guys working there are VERY nice and helpful. would recommend them to anyone looking to pick up a custom cab in the future.

4/25/2008 3:33:24 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhV5DrRvDqc&feature=related
this band is pretty rad.

4/29/2008 10:27:36 AM

see thats my kind of metal. lots of melody i REALLY liked their guitarwork. It had a lot of color.

[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 10:33 AM. Reason : ]

4/29/2008 10:32:40 AM

yeah.

does the part at :40 remind you of anything? my friend and i are scouring the depths of my music collection to figure this out.

4/29/2008 10:35:17 AM

hard to say :/ i just listened to it once at work. i can listen to it again later.

4/29/2008 6:26:46 PM

lookin for opinions here

Takamine G340SC


vs

Washburn D10S



Looking to spend ~300, reviews are good on both... solid tone, good quality, etc... Any opinions on these two guitars or even the two brands in general, looking for acoustic strictly, not acoustic-electric

4/29/2008 7:11:13 PM

takamine if it's between those two

though if you can save a little and drop 450, the number of quality options really opens up

i'm looking at you, seagull

4/29/2008 11:03:26 PM

think our other guitar player is gettin a 2008 RG 2550 (prestige) for his graduation gift

5/4/2008 2:56:15 PM

I have a desire for another acoustic for no good reason. My first guitar teacher had an early 70's model Guild 12-string...kinda wanted one of those ever since. Probably be impossible to find and $$$ though...

5/4/2008 3:41:15 PM

how much harder is a 12 string to play vs. a six string? or maybe I should say how difficult would it be to learn a twelve string after playing a 6 string? I've never played one, but I love the sound of them.

5/4/2008 4:11:42 PM

not that much harder

5/4/2008 4:13:40 PM

they are much harder to barre chord, and don't seem to ring as well when I do.
some people will tune below concert pitch to make that easier.
I've got an old Hofner which I open tune (vestapol) and tune way down.
(leadbelly, kottke) Love the way an open tuned 12 rings.

5/5/2008 8:28:15 AM

I might be looking to get into the guitar playing game here in the near future, what better time than 26 to pick one up. Any recommendations for a decent first acoustic? Reasonably priced, but not some piece of shit preferably.

5/5/2008 8:44:17 AM

haha, I thought you said you wanted to get into a "guitar playing game" at first.

5/5/2008 9:04:47 AM

Back from the earlier pages, me and vinyl

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"LEARNING TO PLAY: the benefits of playing acoustic: first and foremost, you can play it by yourself and it doesn't sound weak or as if its missing something. you're not always going to be able to play with a band, but you might want to play for someone/open mic or something like that. Being able to play as well as having an acoustic will be beneficial for these things. playing acoustic, particularly by yourself, will make you more creative at song presentation. you'll have to rework song composition to account for lack of full arrangement. playing acoustic is in some ways harder, however, they are fundamentally the same. knowing a song on the acoustic means that you will be able to play it on the electric, and probably be able to do it better. Drawbacks of an acoustic: You can't turn it down, only play it softer. if you have a particularly loud acoustic, you may find your neighbors/roomates getting tired of you. They're also expensive to have as a second guitar. If you were to start a band tomorrow, and could only afford 1 guitar, i'd advise getting an electric 1st. I would still say that an acoustic should be your second guitar and after that.. you can build your arsenal of electric axes, or whatever heavy metal/hard rockers call them nowadays. ON ELECTRICS: As mentioned, you will find that it doesn't sound 'complete' to play a stand alone electric most of the time. there are exceptions (for example, jeff buckley's live at sin-e was played with a telecaster and no backing band), however, not many. Also, you'll be making 2 purchases up front instead of 1. electrics require an amp, and if you get a shitty one, you'll be rewarded with shitty sound and probably end up not wanting to play it. a 1000 guitar through a 50 dollar amp will always sound worse than a 200 dollar guitar in 600 dollar amp. spend your money wisely. good musicians will sweat your amp as much or more than they will your guitar. Good first guitars: I've owned a Taylor acoustic for many years now, and because of expense, i don't recommend you get one until you're sure you'll stick with it. However, there are good alternatives. Takanemie? is that how you spell it? they make fine guitars, even if they're impossible to spell. to solve this problem, call your friends to tell them what you just bought instead of typing to them. For a good acoustic, i wouldn't spend less than 400 bucks. you'll get what you pay for. as electrics go, great first guitars are often fenders, in either the strat or tele form. Telecasters have a thin sound, are squarer in shape (not quite as comfortable on your strumming arm) and have general better use in either country or garage rock/soul applications. Strats have a hotter/fatter sound and are used more generically, but there is good reason for this. the right amp is key to have a great sounding strat. as far as amps go, fender will probably get the nod from me. A blues deluxe with one 12 inch speaker will sound awesome, but is a little pricey. you can probably find one new for around 600, while used models will sell for less. I think that its a good idea to get used amps, if you can hear them/try them out first, just because the cosmetics will never make one amp better than another. i'll take most any beat up Vox AC-30 over any brand new peavy amp. Summary: Don't rule out acoustics Good 1st/2nd guitars: Takaneime Acoustics(Sp?) Fender Mexican/japanese Strat (fat/hot sound) Fender mexican/jap telecaster (thin sound) Epiphone Les Paul (metal and hard rock as well as 50s, but nobody plays that) Epiphone Casino/Dot (for beatlesy kind of music) Great Amps: Vox AC-30 (expensive, but well worth it ~ $1000) Fender Blues Deluxe (~$600) Orange Amps (also expensive) For clearer sounds i would avoid peavey, even though the price is right. as far as acoustics go, if you don't see the value, don't start playing. you'll either not contribute any thing worthwile to the musical catelouge, or you'll find that you go for periods of not playing your electric that are long enough to eventually let it start collecting dust in the corner. 10/22/2007 3:29:32 PM "

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" vinylbandit talented redheads 26415 Posts user info edit post I concur with pretty much all of that. Another good option for budget acoustics that are worth the money is Seagull. They're handmade in Canada, and they have a number of models that are modestly appointed to keep the cost down, but still sound wonderful. The one thing I would suggest when looking for an electric is, if possible, to take along someone who knows guitars when you go shopping. I have played a number of Korean Epiphones and Teles that are great guitars, but there are some stinkers in the bunch, too. There are also cost-cutting measures that exist in all budget electrics that you'll have to consider...Epiphones almost universally need their tuning heads replaced if you're going to be doing any heavy duty playing, and their pickups are pretty soulless. I must say at this point that in certain form- and function-factors, there are better values than Korean guitars. For a number of years, Gibson made a Melody Maker at their Nashville factory that was essentially a Les Paul Junior (one volume and one tone control on an American P-90, the greatest electric guitar pickup of all time), and you can still find them for less than $300 brand new without a case. Also, if you're looking at any of the Epiphone archtops (Dot/Sheraton/Casino), you'll probably have your eye drawn by the Ibanez archtops in the same price range. I'd say to avoid these like the plague, because while they're not bad guitars, they're not any better or cheaper than a comparable Epiphone and they have the unfortunate design flaw of being rock 'n' roll archtops with an inexplicable jazz-style wooden bridge, which is just hell on intonation and quick string changes. "

5/5/2008 1:54:11 PM

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"For clearer sounds i would avoid peavey, even though the price is right. "

While I don't have the trained ear of a professional musician, I don't agree with this. I have a Peavey Classic 30, and I find the clean tone of it to be quite nice. Unless it's the exception to the rule or something...of course it's all tube which makes a difference, I don't know anything about their solid-state models. But for a fairly inexpensive amp (think I paid $300 used, though this was 10 years ago) I personally think it has a very nice clean tone. The drive channel is lacking, but that's not what I bought it for...

5/5/2008 2:10:25 PM

I had a Classic 50 for a long time, and aside from the 10" speakers, I really liked it. The drive channel was pretty lackluster, but the real attraction to an EL-84 amp is the tone at power tube breakup, and it did a damn fine job at providing that "greasy" tone that you expect from 84s.

5/5/2008 2:34:31 PM

$200 Electric + $600 amp > $600 Electric + $200 Amp

5/5/2008 3:12:24 PM

truth. ill go even further and say that the $200 guitar with the right pickups can often times sound better than the $600 guitar through the same amp as well.

and i dont even like to think about what my current gigging setup cost me unless im actually playing it at the moment that im thinking about it (at least then I can hear that its worth it).

[Edited on May 5, 2008 at 3:50 PM. Reason : ]

5/5/2008 3:48:18 PM

I need to spend some $$ on a new guitar

Been playing a mexican strat with texas special pickups for at least 10 years on the body and a good 5 on the pickups

5/5/2008 3:49:12 PM

what kind of amp are you using?

you obviously like the guitar enough to not get another/new one, i wouldn't mess with it (despite my hatred of strats )

5/5/2008 3:54:29 PM

all this talk makes me want an s6. someone buy my alvarez pf90sc kthx.

5/5/2008 3:54:49 PM

picked up a Seagull S6 Original today


Sounds incredible, and very easy to play due to the wide spacing of strings (I have stubby fingers )

I decided on the seagull over a used Taylor 110... the taylor sounded amazing but was very very light (almost felt cheap), and it was $100 more than the seagull... I'm happy with my decision

5/5/2008 4:20:26 PM

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"what kind of amp are you using? you obviously like the guitar enough to not get another/new one, i wouldn't mess with it (despite my hatred of strats )"

atomic 112 amp + GNX4

I honestly hadn't played much of anything else until recently.. Most things I've read agree they just aren't very good playing guitars, especially the way they come from the factory.

Anyways, I went down the line at guitar center and played a bunch without looking at the price tags... there were a few that suprised me in the sub $750 range that played very very well... as in I think I could play better on them the first time I picked them up then I could on the only guitar I've ever owned.

Unfortunately I was late for something and didnt really take much time to notice what brand/model they were.

I'm also thinking an electric acoustic might be a good idea since the only acoustic I have access to is my dad's and it's shitty and damn near impossible to play.. my fingers are pretty damn strong at this point from playing with huge strings and high action for years and even I can barely play his acoustic. I picked up a friends acoustic a few months ago and it was easy to play and sounded great... although he's loaded so it was probably pretty expensive.

Anyways, that doesn't help much.

Why do you generally hate strats and any general recommendations? I know that's a broad question...

[Edited on May 5, 2008 at 4:26 PM. Reason : asdf]

5/5/2008 4:25:14 PM

If you want to stick with the stratesque feel I would recommend looking at G&L's Legacy series. I've been messing around on a bunch of them at the small guitar store that I take lessons at and they play so smooth, so much nicer than most fender strats ive played.

5/5/2008 4:30:40 PM

I think I'm gonna go by the local guitar store after work today and play a few

[Edited on May 5, 2008 at 4:35 PM. Reason : and I think I would like something a different than the strat like feel]

5/5/2008 4:35:37 PM

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"If you want to stick with the stratesque feel I would recommend looking at G&L's Legacy series. I've been messing around on a bunch of them at the small guitar store that I take lessons at and they play so smooth, so much nicer than most fender strats ive played. "

Listen to this man, he knows what he's talking about. I have a '97 G&L Legacy and love it to death...the only guitar I've ever played that came close to it in feel was a Paul Reed Smith. A lot smoother and better put together feeling than even the American Standard strats. The Legacy was essentially the final evolution of the Stratocaster, as it was one of Leo Fender's final designs before he passed away, and they really are beautifully made. If you're at all considering a strat-like guitar, you definitely need to check one out. I think they list around $1100 but you could probably find a deal on one if you're patient. (I got mine for $400 off list since it had been hanging around the store for a while, the place didn't have much of a clientele for higher-end gear...)

5/5/2008 6:38:26 PM

I'll try one out tomorrow after work.. i figure I might as well go to guitar center, the local place is over priced with under selection and are assholes about letting you hook them up and actually play. i can understand that for kids but not for somebody that is serious about buying.

anyways, i need to play acoustic more.. i played my dad's (although it's a POS) earlier and jesus i suck at it

5/5/2008 8:50:50 PM

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"While I don't have the trained ear of a professional musician, I don't agree with this. I have a Peavey Classic 30, and I find the clean tone of it to be quite nice. Unless it's the exception to the rule or something...of course it's all tube which makes a difference, I don't know anything about their solid-state models. But for a fairly inexpensive amp (think I paid $300 used, though this was 10 years ago) I personally think it has a very nice clean tone. The drive channel is lacking, but that's not what I bought it for..."

sorry, i just meant more that the tone is less distinctive, at least to my ears.

5/5/2008 11:03:01 PM