Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
Maverick Count lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll 10/2/2008 10:27:57 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41754 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "(static)....uuh sir, I think the word is pronounced "noo-klee-er" (crrch,static)" |
10/2/2008 10:29:11 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
talking points
talking points
rabble rabble 10/2/2008 10:29:23 PM |
UberCool All American 3457 Posts user info edit post |
my head hurts.
and i wasn't even playing a drinking game... 10/2/2008 10:29:43 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
BOOYAH
it was the media's fault she's looked like a fucking dipshit the last couple weeks 10/2/2008 10:29:58 PM |
mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |
reign in government spending?
Wat does that mean? 10/2/2008 10:29:58 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
Did she just claim that she was middle class? 10/2/2008 10:30:13 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
REAGAN! 10/2/2008 10:30:23 PM |
bubster5041 All American 1164 Posts user info edit post |
yea she tried to do that a lot 10/2/2008 10:30:28 PM |
mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |
too .... finally also
wtg Miss South Carolina! 10/2/2008 10:30:35 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
I like to answer these TOUGH questions????
WTF BITCH, you didn't even know the meaning of CLIMAT CHANGE and ACHILLE'S HEEL
10/2/2008 10:30:39 PM |
mrlebowski All American 9310 Posts user info edit post |
what the fuck is she talking about? 10/2/2008 10:31:09 PM |
mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |
Regan-off! 10/2/2008 10:31:10 PM |
JCTarheel All American 2430 Posts user info edit post |
McCain and Palin are gonna fight for the middle class!!!!!!111111111111111111!#@! 10/2/2008 10:31:21 PM |
Kev4Pack All American 25272 Posts user info edit post |
At least she didn't say Maverick (although there is some time left!) 10/2/2008 10:31:46 PM |
StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Did she just claim that she was middle class?" |
yes
I have no idea how she arrived at that conclusion10/2/2008 10:32:06 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41754 Posts user info edit post |
FOX NEWS SURVEY REPORTS THAT 98/100 STAUNCH REPUBLICANS BELEIVE PALIN WON THE DEBATE 10/2/2008 10:32:21 PM |
Panthro All American 7333 Posts user info edit post |
Do you mean tough questions like:
What do you read?
What do you disagree with?
Hard Pressing Questions like that, Palin?
Oof.
10/2/2008 10:32:35 PM |
Mangy Wolf All American 2006 Posts user info edit post |
Why is every election "the most important election?" Get over yourselves. 10/2/2008 10:33:04 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Props to Palin for not completely self destructing, but this wasn't close. 10/2/2008 10:33:09 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
Katie Couric just claimed that Palin didn't embarrass herself and her party.
That's an extremely bold claim. 10/2/2008 10:34:14 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
palin was a vapid talking point reciting robot 10/2/2008 10:34:38 PM |
TallyHo All American 11744 Posts user info edit post |
^^ She didn't. Palin set the bar really low for herself and soared over it. But she's running for VP, not for just personal improvement.
[Edited on October 2, 2008 at 10:34 PM. Reason : rwt] 10/2/2008 10:34:47 PM |
LunaK LOSER :( 23634 Posts user info edit post |
i'm kinda wondering what they're talking about now
oh and i dont see bristol and the boyfriend!
[Edited on October 2, 2008 at 10:38 PM. Reason : .] 10/2/2008 10:36:06 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
her and trig are bonding! 10/2/2008 10:36:51 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
hahaha...you guys are pitiful...i feel like i am reading the comments at RAW Story....unreal.. 10/2/2008 10:39:23 PM |
tromboner950 All American 9667 Posts user info edit post |
I wouldn't say that Biden won this debate...
I'd say that Palin barely even participated in it. She ignored half the questions and just threw out a slew of words... 10/2/2008 10:41:09 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
she started off really bad
but she got more confident and comfortable as it went on... it's kind of disappointing she's been sheltered and defined by a few sound bites because she was really starting completely from scratch tonight 10/2/2008 10:41:47 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
i hope to god the obama camp takes her to the mat on that whole wanting another debate comment...comedy like needs a sequel 10/2/2008 10:43:08 PM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
her bar was really low so im sure many will say she won but I thought Biden was clearly the more passionate, caring, strong, and knowledgeable of the two. By a landslide. 10/2/2008 10:44:38 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
she just spewed talking points and buzz words all night. she probably answer less than half of the questions. biden was clearly more intelligent and knowledgeable on ALL subject. it's a shame americans are dumb as fuck and eat up this folksy bullshit palin was spouting 10/2/2008 10:47:04 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
given the expectations coming in, she did better in this than McCain did last week 10/2/2008 10:47:50 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41754 Posts user info edit post |
I did not see Palin throwing out any numbers.
Biden seemed to know a lot more specifics than she did. 10/2/2008 10:48:16 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it's a shame americans are dumb as fuck and eat up this folksy bullshit palin was " |
and the shout-out. don't forget the shout-out to 3rd graders. cute.10/2/2008 10:49:06 PM |
wethebest Suspended 1080 Posts user info edit post |
i scored it
biden 12 (15, -3) palin 7 (12, -5)
I'd say Palin started strong out of the gates then went on a huge slump. She didn't answer questions and would just start talking about random things. Lost the 2nd qtr then won the 3rd qtr and slightly lost the 4th qtr. Biden at times got repetitive and Palin, unlike Mccain but like Obama talked more regular people talk.
Palin had the play of the game though but I forgot the point.
Palin : "don't let Iran have nuclear energy or weapons" "don't talk to people that don't like America" "fuck your debate, i talk about what I want to talk about when i feel like it"
Biden negatives: "Mccain is the only one that doesn't have an exit plan on the war"->"mccain is no maverick on the war"
[Edited on October 2, 2008 at 10:54 PM. Reason : quotes] 10/2/2008 10:49:32 PM |
catalyst All American 8704 Posts user info edit post |
she's charismatic as shit, and unfortunately many people don't know a damn thing about politics and see that as a greater attribute than the experience and knowledge Biden possesses.
overall, Palin did better than I expected. I wasn't expecting her to be able to string a coherent sentence together.
Also, did Biden get choked up or what? 10/2/2008 10:50:13 PM |
xvang All American 3468 Posts user info edit post |
Biden won the debate as a whole. More knowledgable, more poised, better spoken, better informed.
But proportionately, Palin won. She had little to lose and a lot to gain, and gain she did. I think she won a lot of moderate conservative vote back. For the most part, I don't think this debate helped change that many minds, but it more likely helped reinforce people's hesitations. Just my opinion. 10/2/2008 10:50:52 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
she's dumber than a box of hair 10/2/2008 10:51:50 PM |
tromboner950 All American 9667 Posts user info edit post |
Whenever she's really threatened by something, she pulls her face back a bit, scrunches her nose up, and pours on the accent even heavier... trying to be "cute" to escape from questions...
Hopefully some average Americans are aware/intelligent enough to spot this and hopefully they despise it to the core as much as I do. 10/2/2008 10:52:25 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
did you guys the see the analysts' scorecard on cnn?
6 analysts.
biden won 5 palin won 1 10/2/2008 10:53:46 PM |
steviewonder All American 6194 Posts user info edit post |
Did anyone see the dumbass on CBS from Idaho who was in the Nielsen room? 'I picked Palin because she answered the questions better' 10/2/2008 10:54:07 PM |
EarthDogg All American 3989 Posts user info edit post |
Well I'm definitely surrounded here by Obama supporters, but I'll toss in my observations.
Yes, when it came to giving out talking points, she was stilted and stiff...not a pro at it like Biden. But when she talked off the cuff and used that folksy tone -which drives you all crazy- I think she gained a of of support from regular people.
As much as you won't like it, she scored big points in the fly-over country tonight.
Now with Biden. I really liked his talk about his family and roots. Kind of reminded me that he once, a long time ago, wasn't a senator. I wasn't so worried that he would say something goofy, but that he would slip and start making incorrect statements. Time and research will tell on this. 10/2/2008 10:54:07 PM |
Kainen All American 3507 Posts user info edit post |
I mean don't get me wrong, she did good, better than I expected for sure, but not good enough to some how reverse any trend here I mean come on... 10/2/2008 10:54:42 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Palin won
but the vice president constitutional power thing is going to come back to haunt her.
What the fuck was that? It was a bizarre position to take, completely wrong, and has terrible risk/reward as a campaign position.
[Edited on October 2, 2008 at 10:56 PM. Reason : .] 10/2/2008 10:54:50 PM |
steviewonder All American 6194 Posts user info edit post |
Kainen, unfortunately, I don't see it that way. She did good enough to get another spike. Chalk it all up to ridiculous...
CBS Poll shows 46-21 % win for Biden among undecided voters. 18% of those are now committed to Obama, 10 to McCain and the rest undecided.
[Edited on October 2, 2008 at 10:58 PM. Reason : d] 10/2/2008 10:56:07 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "But when she talked off the cuff and used that folksy tone -which drives you all crazy- I think she gained a of of support from regular people." |
No doubt. So many folks vote based on perceived cultural affiliation. She seems like my kind of person, so I'll vote for her.10/2/2008 10:57:32 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "She did good enough to get another spike" |
I really doubt that. I think McCain would be gleeful if it merely slows his slide.10/2/2008 10:57:43 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Also, I found out stuff about Biden that I didn't know. That's gotta be a plus for obama campaign. 10/2/2008 10:58:07 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Why is every election "the most important election?" Get over yourselves." |
Because if the economy doesn't improve, shit's going to get pretty hairy.
NBC seems to be pushing the idea that Palin did better, which is odd, but they also kept mentioning how low expectations were for her.10/2/2008 11:00:29 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
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