lol i saw this headline and first thought it was about Rae Carruth

3/23/2009 11:01:25 PM

sooo..... no moose next year?

Pay the man his money. wtf - are we after another FA instead of paying moose? he was such a great run blocker on the edges for deA last year...


oh well, heres to 2007 jake in 2009!
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1472246/fantasy_sports_girl_training_camp_preview_panthers/


[Edited on March 25, 2009 at 12:21 AM. Reason : past]

3/25/2009 12:18:46 AM

panthers shouldnt jerk around moose like that

[Edited on March 25, 2009 at 12:47 AM. Reason : .]

3/25/2009 12:47:38 AM

I can't believe they are about to pay that slacker who doesn't want to be here $1M per game and then insist on jerking around Moose.

3/25/2009 8:21:23 AM

new panthers.com site launched yesterday... its alright, nothign special.

3/25/2009 8:26:35 AM

what's going on with moose?

3/25/2009 9:34:59 AM

I, too, would like to know what's going on with Moose.

3/25/2009 1:37:11 PM

could we see a peppers trade, moose release, and holt signing?

3/25/2009 1:46:21 PM

we'll probably see Peppers and Moose in Panthers uniforms next year and Torry is probably a pipe dream

3/25/2009 1:48:29 PM

I REALLY hope Peppers is not back next year.

3/25/2009 1:49:39 PM

I really hope nothing happens to Moose. He's a great run blocker, good possession reciever, Jake has a trust in him and will actually throw him the ball, and he is a good leader. Hard to replace a guy like that.

3/25/2009 1:55:02 PM

Quote :

"DANA POINT, Calif. -- If rock stars make loads of money, why can’t football players? In essence, that was coach John Fox’s take on the $16.683 million tender offer the Panthers had to make to defensive end Julius Peppers to franchise him and keep him off the free agency market. Barring a trade, the tender means Peppers will play for more than $1 million per game next season – a number that doesn’t faze Fox. “I don’t get into salaries,” Fox told reporters at the NFL owners’ meetings. “I don’t know what Elton John makes or Bono makes. I’m sure they make pretty good numbers, too.” Fox talked more extensively about Peppers Wednesday than anyone in the Panthers’ organization has since Peppers first went public in January that he preferred to play elsewhere next season. Fox dismissed speculation in some NFL circles that the Panthers need to trade Peppers to get his high salary off of their salary cap. Truth is, Peppers is scheduled to count only 20% more than his 2008 cap number of just under $14 million. “Is Tom Brady’s cap number a burden (to the Patriots)? Is Eli Manning’s (a burden to the Giants?” said Fox. “I don’t know. It’s just part of what we do. Everybody has a cap number. “I don’t know what number (Peppers) was last year, but it had to be close (to the ’09 tender). I was comfortable with that. I don’t like getting into what people make, but he’s a Pro Bowl-caliber player who I’ve been comfortable with for seven seasons.” Peppers and his agent, Carl Carey, have said Peppers wants to play for another team next season. They hoped the Panthers wouldn’t franchise him and now prefer a trade, but only to a small list of teams. It appears the only teams he’d agree to play for who have the salary cap room and draft currency to potentially made a move to acquire him are the New England Patriots and Philadelphia Eagles. Fox wouldn’t say whether or not he expects Peppers to be back with the Panthers. “Let the system play out,” said Fox. “I can’t lean one way or the other. … We’ll see how it works out.” When asked how the Panthers would go about replacing Peppers if he’s traded, Fox said: “In this league, things change every season. You anticipate changes. Sometimes they happen and you adjust. If (Peppers staying) doesn’t work out, we’ll have some kind of (draft-pick) currency and we’ll have to adjust from there.” But Fox made it clear he does not expect any difficulty if Peppers remains with Carolina. There has been speculation that Peppers would be so unhappy that it would be unhealthy for team chemistry. “Not at all,” Fox said when asked if he thought having Peppers would cause problems. “He never has. I don’t know why it would start now.” Peppers and Carey have said they believe Peppers has come close to maxing out his potential in the Panthers’ defensive system and they think he’d have a better chance of reaching his full potential elsewhere. If those comments stung Fox, he didn’t show it Wednesday. “No, because maybe I feel like I’m maxed out,” Fox said, speaking tongue-in-cheek. “The difference is there are contracts. That’s professional sport. You can’t just do what you want when you want. “That (Peppers’ position) doesn’t surprise me. It doesn’t sting me. … That’s this league.” Regardless of whether Peppers has reached his full potential with the Panthers, Fox said Peppers has had “a terrific career,” which includes four Pro Bowl appearances. “If he was my son,” said Fox, “I would be proud of him.”"

3/25/2009 2:44:36 PM

moose's NC home is for sale^^^^^^

^and what a classy set of comments by our coach -eh? Even when Pep acts like a pop-star and throws his Defensive system under the bus..... Fox comes out classy.

Quote :

"They hoped the Panthers wouldn’t franchise him and now prefer a trade, but only to a small list of teams."

What a crock of sh!t. Everybody knew he was getting the tag this year. He just didnt like it and decided to act like a beotch because of it.

if only we could trade him to the Texans for Mario!

[Edited on March 25, 2009 at 8:02 PM. Reason : asdf]

3/25/2009 8:00:53 PM

imo he only got the tag so we got draft picks

[Edited on March 26, 2009 at 4:08 AM. Reason : i dont know how thats him being a beotch...]

3/26/2009 4:08:21 AM

i believe he will be a panther next year. Fox is content with eating $16.7million dollars for him.

i cant imagine being a player in the locker room knowing that the guy next to you is getting $1million a game.

3/26/2009 8:49:07 AM

^^^just because his house is for sale doesn't mean there's something going on with him. He could be just upgrading to a bigger house. Beside, Charlotte is his offseason home anyway.

3/26/2009 10:05:21 AM

^^not really uncommon

I'm sure Brett Gardner and Melky Cabrera don't lose sleep over the fact that Arod makes in a week what they make in a year

3/26/2009 10:06:37 AM

Lucas to the Bears?
http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009/03/free-agent_parade_bears_bring.html

4/1/2009 7:31:34 PM

if they get Lucas and let go of Vasher, we should pick him up to return kicks

4/2/2009 10:07:58 AM

we're not getting anyone with ~$26,000 cap space....I doubt we would've let lucas go if we didn't have to....At this point, we cant even sign any draft picks.

trading peppers + a qb for cutler (and either cutting delhomme or including him in the trade) would free up 20+ million in cap space.

but peppers holds all the cards and is essentially holding the team hostage.

4/2/2009 10:18:52 AM

i'll bet you 50 bazillion dollars cutler is never a carolina panther

4/2/2009 10:20:14 AM

I bet you're right.

4/2/2009 10:25:18 AM

i was reading that jake is going to rework his contract. He would be extended 2-3 yrs and take the 09 cap hit from 8mil to about 5mil.

4/2/2009 10:25:43 AM

They have to find some cap space somewhere before the draft.

4/2/2009 10:28:26 AM

If I were a Panthers fan I would really want to see a Peppers + Delhome trade for Cutler.

4/2/2009 10:28:35 AM

yeah I read that too, wasn't to happy to hear about that.

4/2/2009 10:28:41 AM

^doesn't mean much....They can cut him whenever anyway.

4/2/2009 10:29:32 AM

Julius is fucking us. Ugh.

4/2/2009 10:30:39 AM

Quote :

"If I were a Panthers fan I would really want to see a Peppers + Delhome trade for Cutler."

thank you for not being a panthers fan then haha

[Edited on April 2, 2009 at 11:57 AM. Reason : .]

4/2/2009 11:56:51 AM

Agreed KMac. Julius for a few picks is a far better option than losing he and Jake for one Prissy QB.

4/2/2009 11:58:28 AM

Denver Broncos 10, Carolina Panthers 30, Final - Dec. 14, 2008

i know its a team sport, but maybe Cutler can sniff the playoffs before I believe his cannon is stronger than John Elway

[Edited on April 2, 2009 at 12:12 PM. Reason : .]

4/2/2009 12:12:07 PM

My fault. I didn't realize Peppers for a FEW picks was an option. I would much rather take that route too if I were the Panthers.

4/2/2009 12:14:58 PM

Each day that passes makes me believe more and more that Pep is staying despite his little hissy fit at being franchised.

If he can rupture just one more QB spleen (Brees? Matt Ryan?), then I will forgive him...

4/2/2009 4:52:34 PM

Me too. If he can get 16.5 sacks again, maybe a few of them when we really need a big defensive stop, I think people will be able to forgive him to some extent. Of course if his agent hadn't come out and said he didn't want to be here, it would be a lot easier.

4/2/2009 5:04:47 PM

At least we don't have to worry about Cutler in a Panthers uni


:D :D :D :D :D :D

4/2/2009 6:15:03 PM

As much as JPep has done for the Panthers, A) he is still a Tar Hole and B) he costs a load of money that we could use to sign others, get picks, buy me season tickets, etc. etc. etc.

4/2/2009 9:37:15 PM

^^^^ I thought it was Jenkins that ruptured Simms' spleen

4/2/2009 9:45:19 PM

i thought it was al wallace

4/2/2009 9:45:59 PM

it was a combination of Kris Jenkins and Al Wallace
http://www.sptimes.com/2006/09/25/Bucs/Chris_Simms_has_splee.shtml

4/2/2009 10:58:39 PM

Pretty good synopsis of what the teams needs vs. options are in the offseason.

This dude seems to doubt that Peppers stays tho...

http://www.shelbystar.com/sports/panthers_38179___article.html/need_season.html

4/4/2009 5:39:29 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/8071

4/4/2009 10:07:40 PM

lovechild

4/4/2009 10:09:29 PM

[Edited on April 5, 2009 at 11:30 AM. Reason : edit]

4/5/2009 11:03:32 AM

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfcsouth/0-10-16/Panthers-have-to-become-player-later-in-free-agency.html

Quote :

"But the Panthers have to make at least a few moves in free agency. The Steelers can go the route of not fixing what isn't broken. The Panthers still have some flaws that have to be fixed. "

And he thinks we end up with Kevin Carter (if we trade Pep) and some FA CBs.... hmmm...

4/5/2009 9:15:34 PM

Quote :

" Mini-mailbag: Carolina Panthers edition We'll continue our series of mini-mailbags (two questions per team) with the Carolina Panthers. Hypothetically, if the Panthers got rid of Julius today, what moves do you think we would make, if any, before the draft? Bring in someone like Vonnie Holliday or Jason Taylor, or maybe bring in Leftwich to compete w/ Jake? Hypothetically speaking, trading Julius Peppers would instantly free up $17 million in cap space. Now, that doesn't mean the Panthers suddenly would go on a huge spending spree. They'd need to keep about $3 million (that number will only jump higher if they get draft picks in return for Peppers) in cap space just to be able to take part in the draft. They'd probably also go out and re-sign long-snapper Jason Kyle. But they'd have enough cap space to start filling some holes, mainly along the defensive line. I could see them pursuing someone like Vonnie Holliday, who has ties to the Carolinas and probably wouldn't cost too much. But don't look for the Panthers to suddenly go crazy in free agency. First, there's not a lot left out there. Second, John Fox and Marty Hurney generally stay away from big free-agent moves. If anything, they'll go through the draft and, then, so who's still out there and make a couple of moves to plug some holes. As for the quarterback situation, I won't rule out the Panthers adding one in the draft. But if the Panthers wanted a veteran free agent to compete with Jake Delhomme, don't you think they already would have signed him and let him start learning the offense? You always refer to the Panther's organization as averse to troublesome personalities. How do you square this aversion with their loyalty to Steve Smith? Great question. The Panthers make a lot of noise about staying clear of guys with character issues and that's something they back up, for the most part. But I can tell you Carolina's scouts take some ribbing around the league when they tell other scouts a guy is off their radar because of character issues. The standard response is, "What about Steve Smith?'' and Carolina scouts generally are left to roll their eyes, smile and shrug their shoulders. There's no doubt the Panthers have bent some rules for Smith. He's had altercations with teammates at least three times, that we know of and has been suspended by the team, without pay, twice. But he's also played at an elite level and done some positive things in the community. Fox and Hurney made a conscious decision to hitch their wagon to Smith and they must feel like the good outweighs the bad."

4/7/2009 5:55:56 PM

Every team bends the rules for stars.

You think guys like Lawrence Taylor and Michael Irvin would get 2nd and 3rd and 4th chances if they weren't terrific football players?

4/7/2009 6:16:39 PM

why cant a team trade for him with 2 first round picks and then like renegotiate a long term contract so they wont be hit for the 17 million?

[Edited on April 8, 2009 at 4:16 PM. Reason : .]

4/8/2009 4:15:42 PM

probably because Peppers wants to play OLB and no one knows if he will be good there?

4/8/2009 5:12:53 PM

i figured he wanted out of carolina more than playing olb

4/8/2009 5:18:23 PM

^^^, ^ thats actually a good point.

Is Peps hissy fit over Charlotte, NC/ the panthers organization really just because he wants to play OLB?

OR

That OLB crap is really all about getting out of Charlotte, NC/ the panthers organization into a more urban scene, beach access, etc?

4/8/2009 6:47:12 PM