face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
if the knicks can get paul, howard, or deron then yeah they can win the title those are three of the very best players in the league.
But from what ive read they arent likely to have enough cap room to make that happen.
Carmelo is a supporting player, he's not an elite player like the other three mentioned.
He did play great in the Olympics (2004 also) that part Simmons is right about.
The rest he is pretty much off base. Carmelo is simply not a great player or at least he has not been one yet. 2/27/2011 3:59:27 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
he wasn't even a great college player!
Bill Simmons called you the fuck out
Quote : | "especially people who rely on advanced metrics and ended up getting caught up in small-picture stuff" |
spot on]2/27/2011 4:01:09 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Bill Simmons is also kind of a full of himself douche now.
Anyway, was watching the Lakers-Thunder and turned over to Pittsburgh-Louisville at halftime. Forgot just how absurdly bad college ball is relative to a good NBA game. You never really notice unless you're flipping back and forth. 2/27/2011 4:02:35 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
I'm really looking forward to this Heat / Knicks game tonight 2/27/2011 4:04:38 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Pro players are better than amateurs? 2/27/2011 4:07:38 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
bill simmons predicted the wizards to win 36 games this year. He hasnt been right about much lately in basketball. In fact his NBA predictions have been god awful.
OKC looks great now they got rid of two awful players Green and Krstic and added two solid big men. I think they can win the West. 2/27/2011 4:14:15 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "bill simmons predicted the wizards to win 36 games this year." |
and you predicted them to win 9, whats your point2/27/2011 4:16:42 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the development of Javale McGee. He looks like he could get the Wizards a few more wins this year than I anticipated, so I doubt they win less than 15-20 anymore." |
$1,400 says you're wrong.2/27/2011 4:29:52 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "9-73 is a real possibility for the Washington Wizards." |
and yes i know you didn't actually bet on that, but thats obviously what i was referring to in my previous post]2/27/2011 4:39:12 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
I'm dissapointed in anyone who takes Simmons opinion on actual basketball seriously. He's good for a laugh and he's got some valid points, but he's not a sports writer. He's a fan who happens to write about sports. Thats a big difference. Read Simmons all you want, but for real basketball insight, stick with the folks at 82 games, realgm, etc.
[Edited on February 27, 2011 at 4:44 PM. Reason : btw, this is a fantastic game ] 2/27/2011 4:41:28 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Herb is disappoint in Harden 2/27/2011 4:55:03 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
are you kidding me 2/27/2011 10:37:42 PM |
mizzo All American 3541 Posts user info edit post |
Come on Knicks! Hold onnnnnnnn please.
I'm also digging this defense that we're finally playing. 2/27/2011 10:40:44 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
i used to hate the knicks in the 90s but might start pulling for them when the playoffs come around 2/27/2011 10:42:05 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
i'll pull for anybody against Miami
wonder what rally thinks about this game LOL 2/27/2011 10:42:42 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
knicks looked good tonight and miami is still dragging their feet. They are really missing Haslem they haven't found anyone to pick up the slack since they lost him.
Carmelo shows that he can be a great player when he wants to be in a game like tonight, he just doesn't give that kind of effort consistently.
So we'll see. I still think NY is going down convincingly round 1 regardless of the opponent. If Chicago goes into the playoffs healthy they have the best interior now by far with Perkins gone. 2/27/2011 10:45:03 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
Gerald Wallace finally playing on ESPN 2/27/2011 10:45:45 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Carmelo shows that he can be a great player when he wants to be in a game like tonight, he just doesn't give that kind of effort consistently. " |
He might not give the effort consistently, but there are lots of players who don't (ie Lebron giving up in the playoffs last year, when it actually mattered)
But the fact that you admit that Carmelo can be a great player is a big step for you catching up with the rest of basketball fans who recognize the blatantly obvious, congratulations on your breakthrough to reality2/27/2011 10:48:01 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
wallace got a nice ovation from the portland crowd when he came in 2/27/2011 11:01:37 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
The west is no pushover. Everyone knows LA, San antonio, and Oklahoma City are powerhouses but Dallas is pretty damn good and Portland quietly has three superstars to go along with Camby and Miller. 2/27/2011 11:04:49 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
the West is certainly no push-over, but they're also not nearly as good as a few years back when they had guys like Melo, Amare, Boozer, Deron, etc] 2/27/2011 11:16:18 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Lets be real. Denver and Utah were never legitimate contenders to make the finals. 2/27/2011 11:28:24 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
The Knicks are a lot easier to root for without John Starks.
Fuck John Starks. 2/27/2011 11:29:09 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
^^Denver was in the Western finals 2 years ago, Utah has never been able to get over the hump but they've been a solid team the last 25 years, point is, a number of superstars have gone from West to East over the last few years 2/27/2011 11:36:37 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Nice job by NYK getting Denver to throw Carmelo into the Chauncey Billups Trade 2/28/2011 11:44:20 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
2/28/2011 2:11:13 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
holy fuck that made my day 2/28/2011 2:13:45 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it is unclear exactly how the Clippers will determine a child's 'privilege' status, but we have one guess" |
2/28/2011 3:03:46 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
there are at least 5 absolutely hilarious things about that picture 2/28/2011 3:06:21 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
I love how Mike Bibby left $6 mil on the table just to get the fuck out of DC. 2/28/2011 3:09:46 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
hahaha wait a minute let me see how many funny things i can think of in 20 seconds (tosh rip off)
#1 Donald Sterling is a slumlord who has been sued many times by underpriveleged folks
#2 black history month is in february that game is in march
#3 donald sterling takes up half the page and he is white
#4 blake griffin is at least half white
#5 the free ticket goes to the child but he must be accompanied by an adult who we can assume must purchase a full price ticket. Hey we dont have bread or running water because i spent $40 on a clippers ticket and $25 on parking
haha okay i only got to 5 but im sure i coulda squeezed two more if i didnt have to pee so bad 2/28/2011 10:03:33 PM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Nice job by NYK getting Denver to throw Carmelo into the Chauncey Billups Trade" |
I don't know, it seems like denver was almost trying to get rid of him, or were just desperate to get felton, neither makes a lot of sense but it seems like new york would have been content to keep felton as he fits the system better2/28/2011 10:26:18 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
billups is still slightly better than felton but as old as he's getting that could reverse itself as early as next season.
Big point guards tend to age pretty well, particularly since he's more of a shooter than a penetrator...
Billups is a nice upgrade if they think they can add an elite big man like Dwight Howard.
If they have their aim on CPIII, perhaps Billups makes better trade fodder as he's a quality player that will only have 1 year remaining on his contract. A few teams would likely be willing to take him on for a season (Atlanta, LAL, Portland, etc) 2/28/2011 10:33:19 PM |
ajgoff1286 All American 2585 Posts user info edit post |
^ No way in hell they will be able to add Howard to that team with the contracts they have to pay out 2/28/2011 10:50:21 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "or were just desperate to get felton" |
lol2/28/2011 11:37:56 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
^^ that's the speculation is that they will not be able to land another max contract FA and therfore it's a stupid trade.
But that's not all set in stone just yet. Dwight could force the issue and they could work out some crazy trade like Chauncey, Landry, Shelden/Shawne, Turiaf, 3 first rounders, and $3 million
You can't rule anything out yet we don't know the new CBA rules. It could all work out for the Knicks but it's pretty unlikely right now. The almighty dollar ultimately wins usually. Hell, just look at what happened here. When it came down to it money was more important than championships for Carmelo. 3/1/2011 12:36:31 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
lookin to me like a lockout or a $50-$55 million hard cap
for anyone who wants parity, they're gonna get it 3/1/2011 12:47:03 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Billups make twice as much as Felton and both their contracts expire after next year. It was a pure money move for Denver. 3/1/2011 12:14:03 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
'Melo not having a great game at all but the Knicks still beating a good team. Billups is stone cold. Gotta love three 20 point scorers before the end of the third quarter. 3/1/2011 9:06:42 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Bit of a stretch, don't you think?
3/2/2011 2:36:14 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
That caption might as well have said "Free Throw Marksman" 3/2/2011 3:23:18 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Not gonna lie....definitely didn't see Kevin Love being this good in the NBA. I thought he might be a solid 12 and 8 kinda guy...not an All-Star. He's a rebounding machine. Two more games to match Moses Malone consecutive double doubles record. 3/3/2011 7:46:11 AM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
the heat writing the book on how to blow huge leads 3/3/2011 10:21:05 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, crazy ending of that heat game. Why didnt they post James up against Richardson. Everytime he tried to drive, he was shut down. 3/3/2011 11:14:38 PM |
Milkboner Suspended 934 Posts user info edit post |
The game in London is at 3 today, is it supposed to be televised?
Those poor British bastards get the Nets and Raptors matchup. 3/4/2011 9:49:27 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
On NBA TV yeah
and fucking lol at Big Z trying to get Carmelo to rent his place in NYC for the low low price of 37500 a month 3/4/2011 10:03:37 AM |
Sleik All American 11177 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Why didnt they post James up against Richardson." |
LeBron never posts up. He doesn't have a single back-to-the-basket move. All he wants to do is barrel to the cup over and over and over and over again. Pat Riley needs to buy him some McHale drill DVDs.3/4/2011 2:43:19 PM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
the heat sucking against just about every good team in the league is starting to worry me now 3/4/2011 3:10:15 PM |
Milkboner Suspended 934 Posts user info edit post |
Nets/Raptors announcer: "The crowd here is cheering for both teams .... very sportsmanlike" 3/4/2011 3:16:01 PM |
Milkboner Suspended 934 Posts user info edit post |
Oh SHIT the crowd is doing the wave in London ... for the Raptors/Nets!!!!!! yesss!!!
[Edited on March 4, 2011 at 4:31 PM. Reason : i bet they're spilling tea everywhere] 3/4/2011 4:29:34 PM |