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"and what conclusions should we draw from that, Dexter?"

he doesn't appear to have been shot in the back, as some are alleging.

8/15/2014 3:19:53 PM

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"Well we have gone from he is just a big teddy bear trying to go to college!!! To a robbery suspect who assaulted a storeowner. Is it wildly out of question, if he can assault a store owner he would assault a police officer? Like others have said, let the facts come out, but this is a game changer. Why aren't the protestors at work?"

as if this thread needed to be drop-kicked again

[Edited on August 15, 2014 at 3:20 PM. Reason : -]

8/15/2014 3:19:54 PM

I'm an idiot

[Edited on August 15, 2014 at 3:21 PM. Reason : No need to respond]

8/15/2014 3:20:39 PM

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"Why aren't the protestors at work?"

why does that matter? people like you say shit like this as if it somehow negates the protesting or somehow justifies the cops' militaristic response. and i thought a lot of the protesting was occurring at night.

8/15/2014 3:21:12 PM

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"Why aren't the protestors at work?"

seriously?

that's your takeaway?

do you not understand what a protest is?

8/15/2014 3:21:43 PM

I've been told that protesters are being bused in. Perhaps protesting is their job.

8/15/2014 3:22:01 PM

We have officially hit GOLO level discussion.

Have we had a nazi or communist comment? How about Muslim?

8/15/2014 3:22:52 PM

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" Why aren't the protestors at work?""

They be on that welfare monies and gots der Obama phone

8/15/2014 3:23:13 PM

i think someone said gestapo a while back actually

8/15/2014 3:23:27 PM

eh, not sure if it's quite golo level. check out this idiocy:

http://www.wral.com/turmoil-tear-gas-give-way-to-hope-in-ferguson/13895372/?comment_order=forward

8/15/2014 3:24:20 PM

Obama phone.

Check.

Also,

@ABC: NEW: Chief: Officer didn't know Michael Brown was a suspect in robbery when stopped; was stopped for walking in street, blocking traffic.

[Edited on August 15, 2014 at 3:26 PM. Reason : X]

8/15/2014 3:24:23 PM

He could have been obama's son.

8/15/2014 3:25:56 PM

To answer the protesters not at work question: Because not everybody in the world has a 9-5 shift or M-F job.

We still have may more unknowns than answers at this point.

[Edited on August 15, 2014 at 3:38 PM. Reason : .]

8/15/2014 3:27:18 PM

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"i think someone said gestapo a while back actually"

that was me, so it doesn't count.

8/15/2014 3:29:03 PM

why would someone walk in the street blocking traffic after a robbery? drawing attention to ones self?

seems silly.

8/15/2014 3:34:25 PM

So where's the police report from the shooting?

They've already released the one from the theft...

I haven't really been paying attention....what's their justification for not releasing it?

8/15/2014 3:35:33 PM

The cop didnt know the kid was a felon. It was all alleged and thia officer was not even assigned to that call.

8/15/2014 3:37:48 PM

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"Police "are choosing to disseminate information that is very strategic to try to help them justify the execution-style" killing, said Crump, who also represented the family of Trayvon Martin, the teenager fatally shot by a Florida neighborhood watch organizer who was later acquitted of murder. "

LOL! This can't be serious. Why would you hire an ambulance chaser who lost his previous "white guy shot a black guy" case? I feel bad for the family. On top of losing a child, they are getting used for political and monetary gain.

[Edited on August 15, 2014 at 3:45 PM. Reason : obvious]

8/15/2014 3:39:11 PM

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"LOL! This can't be serious. Why would you hire an ambulance chaser who lost his previous "white guy shot a black guy" case? I feel bad for the family. On top of losing a child, they are getting used for political and monetary gain."

I'm betting he gave a steep discount for his services.

8/15/2014 3:48:42 PM

Maybe that lawyer is doing his work pro-bono

8/15/2014 3:49:51 PM

That lawyer almost definitely contacted the family, not the other way around

8/15/2014 3:51:59 PM

One thing I want to mention.

The cops always keep quiet when one of their own does something. They do a very good job of waiting till the right moment to play their cards

If it were one of us, they'd have us in the box questioning us while at the same time releasing our photos, names and the crime we were accused of to the media.

This is the first case I can remember where the media is actually starting to report on this tactic instead of just accepting what the cops say. That media attention is a direct result of the riots.

8/15/2014 3:55:20 PM

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"The cops always keep quiet when one of their own does something. They do a very good job of waiting till the right moment to play their cards"

Are you trying to say that they remain silent because anything they said could be used against them?

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

8/15/2014 4:00:47 PM

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"That media attention is a direct result of the riots."

You mean protests? I don't think there was much "rioting" was there?

8/15/2014 4:18:00 PM

you could argue that the fucking pigs rioted on the protesters i guess

8/15/2014 4:18:46 PM

Already mentioned, but

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"The Ferguson police officer who shot Michael Brown didn't stop him because he was suspected in a recent robbery, but because he was "walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic," the city's police chief said Friday. Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson told reporters the alleged "robbery does not relate to the initial contact between the officer and Michael Brown." So why did Ferguson police decide to release surveillance video of the alleged convenience store Friday -- the same day that they named, six days after the shooting, the white police officer who fatally shot the African-American teenager -- if the two incidents are not related? Jackson said he released the videotape "because the press asked for it," noting some in the media had filed Freedom of Information requests for the footage and that he couldn't withhold it indefinitely. The chief added "we needed to release that at the same time we needed to release the name of the officer involved in the shooting," though he didn't elaborate more on why."

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/15/us/missouri-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

8/15/2014 5:05:30 PM

I think the answer to that is pretty obvious...

8/15/2014 5:11:19 PM

lol not much rioting lolololol

8/15/2014 5:33:26 PM

lololololo
was there a lot of riotinglololol? where'd you see at lol? maybe there was, i just didn't hear much about injuries lololol, and i would think there would be a lot of injuries if rioting was occuringlololol. but to be honest, i didn't follow the coverage very closely lolololol

8/15/2014 5:38:06 PM

What is it with black people and walking in the middle of the street anyways?

8/15/2014 5:46:15 PM

Its not like people drive through the ghetto so theres no need to avoid the street.

8/15/2014 6:32:09 PM

To be honest I'd rather be killed by the police than go to prison for a crime I didn't commit or a non-violent crime like over 50% of inmates.

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

8/15/2014 6:51:40 PM

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"lol not much rioting lolololol"

STL mayor on TV just said "the vast majority were peaceful protesters" if his voice counts for anything.

8/15/2014 8:17:05 PM

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"Call me racist, i dont care, i am not. From what I can gather: Black culture is very clear on the hatred of the police. Cops generally react with excessive force when confronting black people. I 100% do not see an end to this untill black culture begins to respect police and simultainiously police don't over react at every interaction. Both sides have a lot to risk and a lot to lose. I think its here to stay."

I know this is from a couple days ago, but seriously?

8/15/2014 8:44:34 PM

the packpride thread is pretty awful...as one would expect.

8/15/2014 9:54:10 PM

Are there lots of racists there or something? Can't say I've ever visited the site.

8/15/2014 9:57:16 PM

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/15/the-day-ferguson-cops-were-caught-in-a-bloody-lie.html

8/15/2014 10:13:04 PM

^^they're an older, more conservative crowd (which I kinda hate to say...because I don't like when people politicize events like this. It goes well beyond political sides) and a fair amount of posters there definitely come off as pretty racist.

[Edited on August 15, 2014 at 11:24 PM. Reason : d]

8/15/2014 11:23:55 PM

I've actually seen a few more conservative-minded people on my Facebook outraged by this, from the overly aggressive and militarized police response.

I don't see how anyone can watch this video, and not come to the same conclusion honestly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yEDMfFpKQA

8/15/2014 11:40:13 PM

There are conservatives, and there are libertarians, the latter of which you're describing. They don't necessarily always intersect.

8/16/2014 1:20:24 AM

Even hannity seemed outraged last night

8/16/2014 2:08:55 AM

http://davidsimon.com/the-end-game-for-american-civic-responsibility-pt-iii

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"The decision of a police agency to hide the identities of its officers behind a veil of secrecy, while asking the public at large to risk all in open court, is not mere hypocrisy. It is cowardice. It is an abdication of your professional role and your basic integrity. Your actions, sir, stand not merely in support of your rank-and-file, or in defiance of a mob; that’s how you wish to be seen, and likely, it is how many will view you within the cloistered culture of the roll-call room. But to the greater public that you serve, your decision is, again, void of all honor or courage. You have done your uniform, your department and your city a great disservice. Some reflection and a change in policy is required before anyone in Ferguson, Missouri can be assured that you, Chief Jackson, actually remain in service of law and order in your city."

[Edited on August 16, 2014 at 7:26 AM. Reason : .]

8/16/2014 7:07:49 AM

I know this is a serious thread, but I still can't stop laughing at

MEAN

RACIST

POOPOO

8/16/2014 8:43:04 AM

According to CNN, the protesters are actually trying to stop the looting. They were standing in front of some stores last night trying to keep some people out. Unfortunately some folks threw more molotov cocktails last night and the riot gear came back out.

8/16/2014 8:49:50 AM

Saw a lot of that on twitter.

8/16/2014 9:01:29 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdL9dqkyjhM

Listen to the background conversation from 6:28-7:30 or so.

Fresh on the scene, an eyewitness doens't know he's being recorded, and so he accidentally tells the truth.

Brown and the officer were in the squad car. Brown fled. Officer pursued with gun drawn. Brown stopped, doubled-back on the officer, and charged. Officer fired and missed. Brown kept coming. Officer fired and didn't miss.

That's why there is no blood on his back, and the body is facing where the squad car was.

[Edited on August 16, 2014 at 10:24 AM. Reason : s]

8/16/2014 10:24:02 AM

^"accidentally tells the truth"...

8/16/2014 10:47:20 AM

That conflicts with an eyewitness who live tweeted the aftermath and said right after it happened he was shot in the back after the first 2 shots.

8/16/2014 11:01:35 AM

People are noticing the timestamp on the still surveillance that the robbery occurred on 6/9/2014. So they were out looking for this guy since then?

8/16/2014 11:01:52 AM

Store owners are arming themselves to shoot looters:
https://twitter.com/michaelcalhoun/status/500610068094910465/photo/1

8/16/2014 11:31:01 AM