moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It's not the policy that that's racist; it's the rhetoric." |
3/15/2016 4:46:11 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not sure what he is even trying to argue. Maybe just being contrarian? Trump is the king of otherism. Not even sure his supporters debate that.
And no one is running around saying Kasich or Rubio appeal to the racist segment of society, just Trump. Not the right. Just Trump.
[Edited on March 15, 2016 at 6:35 PM. Reason : X] 3/15/2016 6:34:19 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
I was feeling depressed about the results until i went here https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Quote : | ""@SCNAK45: @megynkelly is trying so hard to bash @realDonaldTrump it's ridiculous" Don't worry, everyone is wise to Crazy Megyn!" |
Quote : | "Donald J. Trump ?@realDonaldTrump 27m27 minutes ago "@gregens21: @BertShad @FoxNews @megynkelly She's choking on the results! Call her justifiable Kelly. Justifying everything she says."" |
Quote : | "Donald J. Trump ?@realDonaldTrump 27m27 minutes ago "@jsconlon11: @BertShad @Foxnews @megynkelly I tried to give them a shot tonight, but they have the whole anti Trump cheerleading team."" |
3/15/2016 8:02:07 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Another speech with running back opinions and no substantive policy.
How can any educated person support this idiot? Literally anyone on both sides is better.. 3/15/2016 10:12:45 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41754 Posts user info edit post |
Best speech I have ever heard him give tonight.
Hillary better get her boxing gloves out and loosen up some. 3/15/2016 10:13:36 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
no one is educated. its a shameful country 3/15/2016 10:18:06 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ plenty of educated idiots out there
gotta stop conflating education with intelligence
[Edited on March 15, 2016 at 10:46 PM. Reason : .] 3/15/2016 10:46:18 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41754 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "How can any educated person support this idiot? " |
He talks on a third grade level and makes it humorous...he is reaching out to every fool who is pissed off about something in the entire country. He is not looking for educated voters.
The intelligent people who are voting for him see how artfully he is doing what he is doing and are impressed. I must say its the best salesmanship I have ever seen behind an political podium. He talks in circles so even if he says something offensive he goes on to something people go nuts for before they even have time to stay mad.3/15/2016 11:54:27 PM |
Mangy Wolf All American 2006 Posts user info edit post |
Most of the trumpkins on the other forums are predicting a landslide for their hero. It's going to be fun watching them melt down after she cuts his dick off. 3/16/2016 12:28:55 AM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
well....if education was free, then we'd have more educated voters. 3/16/2016 9:08:42 AM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "well....if education was free, then we'd have more educated voters. " |
Education is free, up to a point. By the time most students are done with K-12, they're not remotely prepared for college or work. Virtually everyone that went to public school recognizes this; they went to college and were astonished at the amount of work it took to succeed.
So, clearly making something free isn't good enough to make someone smart. It not only has to be free, it has to be high quality, and public school ranges somewhere between low and average quality. Of course, the most important factor is having parents that care. If you don't have good parents and you still succeed, you're the exception, not the rule.3/16/2016 10:12:31 AM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The intelligent people who are voting for him see how artfully he is doing what he is doing and are impressed. I must say its the best salesmanship I have ever seen behind an political podium. He talks in circles so even if he says something offensive he goes on to something people go nuts for before they even have time to stay mad. " |
I'm impressed with what he's doing. I've said all along contrary to the panic in the progressive liberal elite, I really see this all as one big reality show for the Trump and is just one big sales pitch that he's carefully catered his message to resonate with the whole under-educated pissed off working class american. Unlike Cruz, I don't think he really is going to go after all the backwards ass shit he talks about. Plus i think he INTENTIONALLY keeps an ambigious platform. As the front-line candidate and with self-proclaimed $billions, you think he would have paid someone to invent a platform for him as this one of his opponents criticisms.
He keeps an ambigious platform unlike Cruz who has a narrow-focused platform.
I'm not voting for him but GENIUS!3/16/2016 11:36:24 AM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Education is free, up to a point." |
remove the "up to a point" and you've got more informed people. So, clearly making something free (up to a point) isn't good enough to make someone smart.3/16/2016 2:43:49 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
If K-12 fails to prepare people for college, why would making college free help? 3/16/2016 3:46:14 PM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
I think the failure of K-12 is more your opinion than actual. By eliminating the financial hurdle of college education you'd have more college educated voters. maths. 3/16/2016 3:58:23 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
college education is not why we have uninformed voters 3/16/2016 4:01:05 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Of course, the most important factor is having parents that care. If you don't have good parents and you still succeed, you're the exception, not the rule." |
An overwhelming majority of parents care. many simply aren't educated enough to know the right thing to do but this idea that parents don't care about their child's education is a poor excuse.3/16/2016 4:50:10 PM |
dhigh New Recruit 35 Posts user info edit post |
anyone who votes for Clinton who had 4 Americans killed in Libya, and has nothing to show for her 25 yrs of political experience is an idot. Not a Trump fan either but this woman should be shunned from politics in general. 3/16/2016 4:53:27 PM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
wow...still on that Benghazi kick, huh? 4 people. 4. 1,2,3,4. not a trump fan, but you're definitely a republican. 3/16/2016 5:08:09 PM |
ElGimpy All American 3111 Posts user info edit post |
Seriously guys if you vote for Hillary you are just an idot
[Edited on March 16, 2016 at 5:25 PM. Reason : A] 3/16/2016 5:24:59 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
B E N G H A Z IDOT 3/16/2016 6:20:59 PM |
GrumpyGOP yovo yovo bonsoir 18191 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Education is free, up to a point. By the time most students are done with K-12, they're not remotely prepared for college or work. Virtually everyone that went to public school recognizes this; they went to college and were astonished at the amount of work it took to succeed.
So, clearly making something free isn't good enough to make someone smart." |
I'm not a "make college free" guy -- I'm not even a "get rid of student loan debt" guy, and I've got student loan debt -- but nobody is arguing that making college free (or just more affordable) would make it better, would make it produce smarter people. It would really help out those people who actually do leave K-12 well prepared for college, educationally-speaking.
Put another way, I don't think I'd have gotten a better education from NCSU if it were cheaper or free. I would be as educated, I just wouldn't owe somebody seventeen thousand dollars.3/17/2016 1:34:05 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
If you want educated voters stop cutting civics from curriculums and break up the large media conglomerates 3/17/2016 7:04:10 AM |
dinamod Starting Lineup 88 Posts user info edit post |
A family volunteering for Trump down in Fayetteville: http://gawker.com/pbs-news-story-on-first-time-trump-voters-prominently-f-1765284316 3/17/2016 7:54:36 AM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
^luckily they're not smart enough to realize they'd do more damage phone banking for Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton and either trashing the talking points or screwing up the phone bank logs after annoying the callers. 3/17/2016 8:49:03 PM |
dinamod Starting Lineup 88 Posts user info edit post |
Here is an interesting take on the Trump supporters: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/07/donald-trump-why-americans-support
I just wish these same folks would be backing Bernie instead. He has a proven track record. It's hard to trust Trump to actually stick to his promises. 3/18/2016 3:10:51 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
http://gawker.com/a-complete-list-of-donald-trump-s-business-disasters-1764151188 3/18/2016 5:34:37 PM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
I'm waiting for the list of Bernie business disasters. I'm not a Trump supporter by any means but it's not like these other clowns have done much to speak of. 3/18/2016 5:43:28 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
I mean his entire platform is "I'm rich and successful, trust me to do the same for America" 3/18/2016 5:53:47 PM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
Well he is rich and successful. Most successful business people have failed.
This is not a defense of him running for presidency by anymeans, I just think it's a poor thing to use to critique him when Sanders basically never had a job. 3/18/2016 6:30:17 PM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
^I think it might be a good thing to get someone from the private sector in the White House for once and not another person who has been a politician almost their entire life. Of course that will be tough to do because it seems like the really rich people always run as a republican and the democrats are the masters of preaching how rich people are evil and they need to be taxed a lot more. 3/18/2016 6:50:28 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm waiting for the list of Bernie business disasters. I'm not a Drumpf supporter by any means but it's not like these other clowns have done much to speak of." |
Quote : | "This is not a defense of him running for presidency by anymeans, I just think it's a poor thing to use to critique him when Sanders basically never had a job." |
Except this isn't a Bernie thread, bro
Also he speaks of nearly all these ventures as if they were YOUGGGGE successes.3/18/2016 7:40:41 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Well he is rich and successful. Most successful business people have failed. " |
he has failed though, he could have parked his inheritance in a very conservative fund and he would have more money than he does today. his CV is a series of business failure after business failure.3/18/2016 7:54:28 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
that statement is rather bold, considering that no one really knows what he's worth now, what exactly he inherited, or takes into consideration the expenses of the extravagant lifestyle he has lived up until now. His inheritance was estimated to be closer to $40 million, not the $200 million that keeps getting thrown around in the debate. His father was believed to be worth about that much, but the money was split between 4 of the 5 kids and his mother. Estimates for his net worth seem to be all over the place, and along the way he has managed to create a brand name that gets franchised out.
He has had some epic failures along the way, and he also had family business connections and lines of credit available to him that are almost impossible to put a dollar figure on. Regardless, those articles that keep touting how a simple index fund would have outperformed him are overly simplistic. A simple index fund investment wouldn't have the GOP establishment and SJWs about to shit their pants about the possibility of President Trump, and that kind of legacy is probably worth more to Trump than any dollar value. 3/19/2016 2:54:06 AM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
I would never vote for him, his economic policy ideas are protectionist in a way that can't work in a globalized world (there's no turning it back either), he is too authoritarian for my taste based on his stance on imminent domain and anti-islam rhetoric. His border ideas are not out of the norm for either party. A secure border is a matter of national security, not a single candidate in either party is against secure borders or rigorous enforcement. His deportation ideas are extreme and not doable, but they make for good rhetoric.
The one thing I do like is that both parties are terrified of him and hate him. So, there's at least something going for him. At this point, breaking the stranglehold that the Democrats and the Republicans have on the system may be more important than anything else that can be done in this election cycle. 3/19/2016 3:10:06 AM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
Trump took over as president of his father's company in 1974, when the S&P500 was around 96 at the start of the year. Today the S&P500 is around 2050. If Trump had liquefied his $40 million in assets and placed them in an index fund while not spending a dime for the next 40 years and cheating the IRS out of capital gains tax the whole way, he'd be worth ~$854 million. Forbes places Trump's net worth at $4.5 billion. 3/19/2016 12:50:33 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Trump is underperforming a more winning candidate.
3/19/2016 3:04:18 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
There are lots of people on the fence about where they stand...moderates, independents. All it takes is for Hillary to shift some of her stances a little more towards the middle, and she wins all the moderates and independents. There is no way Trump can win, because Hillary knows how to court the moderates. 3/19/2016 4:40:22 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Another protester got assaulted at a Trump rally today. Interesting to see how media plays this. Protester had a picture of Trump's face with a confederate flag on it and was with another person wearing a Klang hood. As they were being escorted out the guy with the picture got clocked by a black Trump supporter, who was promptly arrested without any resistance. 3/19/2016 11:13:56 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
The Klan hood doubled as a dunce's cap. 3/19/2016 11:48:57 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^^ That's Trumps America. He wants people to use violence and anger to divide themselves. 3/20/2016 1:28:56 AM |
beatsunc All American 10748 Posts user info edit post |
^lets not act like trump only one trying to divide people based on race. hell obama still tries to stoke the flames occasionally
[Edited on March 20, 2016 at 7:27 AM. Reason : cant we all just get along] 3/20/2016 7:25:11 AM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
How exactly is Obama "stoking the flames"
Serious question. 3/20/2016 10:04:40 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
he's black and has on a few occasions made statements that support equal rights 3/20/2016 10:40:02 AM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
Hillary and Bernie have been promoting class warfare. Watching Hillary participate in that bullshit is doubly entertaining, considering that her husband oversaw such disasters against the poor as welfare reform, NAFTA, and his COPS plan.
[Edited on March 20, 2016 at 10:54 AM. Reason : The only Obama making racially divicive remarks is Michelle. Barack has been fairly neutral IMHO.] 3/20/2016 10:48:19 AM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
Class warfare?
Puuuullllllleeeeaaazzzeeeeee
Also what remarks? I'd like to read them. 3/20/2016 11:38:06 AM |
beatsunc All American 10748 Posts user info edit post |
couple obama examples:
"Trayvon Martin Could Have Been Me 35 Years Ago." Do what? you were smashing guys heads into the pavement back then?
Inviting the muslim kid who did the bomb hoax to white house on twitter
i am not trying to say he is anywhere close to as bad as trump of course 3/20/2016 2:52:37 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you were smashing guys heads into the pavement back then?" |
Because clearly you're not biased.3/20/2016 5:17:00 PM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
^^And don't forget the beer summit on the white house lawn. Obama shouldn't have said anything about that situation and let the NAACP, or some other group like that deal with the issue. 3/20/2016 11:18:48 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
Wait a minute!!!! Obama was black as a teenager!!!!
GTFO 3/21/2016 12:17:37 AM |