Wolfey All American 2680 Posts user info edit post |
Liverpool down to their 3rd choice keeper 8/16/2019 12:28:54 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
8/16/2019 2:27:22 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Coutinho to Bayern. Weird move that as they really need a winger and not what Coutinho brings.
Honestly feel bad it didn’t work out at Barcelona since it was a dream move for him. 8/16/2019 5:11:34 PM |
Sweden All American 12295 Posts user info edit post |
8/17/2019 11:48:25 AM |
heelfan All American 3268 Posts user info edit post |
Death to VAR! 8/17/2019 2:24:07 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
that’s a shame 8/17/2019 2:27:56 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37673 Posts user info edit post |
You truly hate to see it
[Edited on August 17, 2019 at 3:15 PM. Reason : TOP] 8/17/2019 3:14:48 PM |
Sweden All American 12295 Posts user info edit post |
Such a tough scene. 8/17/2019 3:31:52 PM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
Lmao 8/17/2019 4:05:26 PM |
heelfan All American 3268 Posts user info edit post |
I recall City fans looking forward to VAR last year when Liverpool was getting loads of dodgy goals and penalties. Be careful what you wish for...
[Edited on August 17, 2019 at 4:31 PM. Reason : "Since I will not lose, they try to help him cheat."]
8/17/2019 4:22:25 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
So much whining from circles of the British media about VAR. I just don’t get it. Why shouldn’t you do everything you can to get calls right?
The handball rule is what the issue should be. If you don’t like it, change it back. Though I generally like them and seems to solve the harsh decisions like the CL final last year. 8/18/2019 7:30:52 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
It's stupid. People are just going to complain no matter what. 8/18/2019 8:39:17 AM |
heelfan All American 3268 Posts user info edit post |
You'll think VAR is stupid when it costs your team last-second victories in the CL and PL. The review system has been a killjoy since it was first introduced at the Confederations Cup. "Not so fast! Let's wait five or ten minutes before you celebrate that goal."
[Edited on August 18, 2019 at 3:11 PM. Reason : ruining the beautiful game] 8/18/2019 3:04:28 PM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
There is so much discussion about it because the people criticizing are mostly former players who know how harsh it is in that situation and with the emotions involved as well. The fault is with the old rule and the "intention" part where handballs like that were ignored because it was accidental. I think there is an argument for it but that said the new rule is much more clearer in that these types of incidents will not pass VAR review. We have seen it now with PSG and City twice. Not sure if there are other instances but it brings much more clarity to the decision making process IMO and players need to understand that moving forward. As long as there is consistency in this then I am ok with it.
I am also curious to see if players and particularly center half's will be able to get away with the shirt grabs and pushes. It happens a lot in the PL and I really hope managers have warned their players. Especially the fucking chuckle brothers at United. Smalling does that so many times on corners.
[Edited on August 18, 2019 at 9:12 PM. Reason : .] 8/18/2019 9:10:58 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You'll think VAR is stupid when it costs your team last-second victories in the CL and PL." |
Pep bitched about the handball rule last year when it was Llorente and now the same thing happens to his team after they change the rule and he bitches the other way. He and City fans are just going to complain when their team doesn't win. I think VAR is stupid for the "clear and obvious" shit because it just adds more ambiguity to some decisions, especially 50/50 penalty decisions, but for offsides and this new handball rule, it's clear cut. Fans, players, and coaches just need to accept that it's a black or white decision and sometimes you're unlucky in a game of fine margins.
The dumbest complaint to me is the one where people are crying about the "fan experience." I'd rather have correct decisions then worrying about if some fans looked silly cheering a goal that didn't end up actually counting. Every sport with a review system has this feature.8/19/2019 4:06:53 AM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
Waiting around for the final match on a monday is absolutely brutal, especially the start of the season. Nervous but excited to see if the team is truly transformed in defense because its a pretty good test I feel. 8/19/2019 4:07:59 AM |
Sweden All American 12295 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the fucking chuckle brothers" |
hahaha8/19/2019 7:05:20 AM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
8/19/2019 9:04:27 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37673 Posts user info edit post |
Lol I just saw City had 3.5 xG, Spurs had......0.2 8/19/2019 9:28:21 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
VAR... 8/19/2019 4:17:06 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
it’s embarrassing for United that Lingard still starts at AM. He isn’t good enough for any of the top teams’ starting lineups and I’d probably include Everton and West Ham in that too.
Martial finally becoming a regular goalscorer will be a big boost for them. 8/19/2019 5:01:58 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Holy crap, he’s 27? Had no idea he was that old. 8/19/2019 7:26:58 PM |
heelfan All American 3268 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The dumbest complaint to me is the one where people are crying about the "fan experience." I'd rather have correct decisions then worrying about if some fans looked silly cheering a goal that didn't end up actually counting. Every sport with a review system has this feature." |
Fine, just don't come on here whining if Liverpool has an equalizing goal disallowed in the 93rd minute of the Champions League final due to VAR.
[Edited on August 19, 2019 at 9:17 PM. Reason : after you've let off a red flare that triggered an evacuation of your entire apartment complex]8/19/2019 9:07:11 PM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it’s embarrassing for United that Lingard still starts at AM. He isn’t good enough for any of the top teams’ starting lineups and I’d probably include Everton and West Ham in that too. " |
I think Lingard has his uses but you are right that he shouldn't be starting. He was by far our worst player on the pitch today. I think it was an interesting match. We were in control of the game till about the 55th minute and especially the first half. Ole should have made subs way sooner because Lingard and even James were passengers although I do think James played decently. This is where the depth issue is glaring. I will take the point but I feel we should have won that game if Lingard and Pogba finished their chances.
I do think our first team overall is good enough for the top 4 and while I agree Sanchez and Lukaku should be gone we should have also looked at Bruno Fernandes and another DM for depth. I was surprised at the midfield control in the first half and Pogba should really also shoulder the blame not only for the missed penalties but the constant loss of possession. I am not sure where Fred and Matic fit into this picture but Ole needs to trust them simply for the lack of better options. We needed to get 5 perhaps even 6 players in with the loss of Lukaku and we only got two starters and one prospect. That will be the reason we don't make top 4 because I am enjoying the football Ole is playing and so far impressed with AWB and Slabhead. Can't help but think Ruben Neves would have been perfect for our midfield and with Pogba likely leaving I hope we focus on getting him and SMS/Bruno next summer.
[Edited on August 19, 2019 at 10:01 PM. Reason : a]8/19/2019 9:59:25 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37673 Posts user info edit post |
^^lol so in your nightmare (for pool, presumably) scenario, we're in the CL final again?? 8/19/2019 10:59:30 PM |
heelfan All American 3268 Posts user info edit post |
This time it's against City 8/20/2019 12:48:30 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
haha we're just in the CL final by default now 8/20/2019 2:55:50 AM |
Sweden All American 12295 Posts user info edit post |
Lingard will be fine, he's a young developing prospect with a bright future. 8/20/2019 7:53:36 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^lol so in your nightmare (for pool, presumably) scenario, we're in the CL final again??" |
When nightmares become reality8/20/2019 8:07:20 AM |
heelfan All American 3268 Posts user info edit post |
I don't know. It seems like Real Madrid, Barca, and City did more strengthening over the summer than Liverpool. But sometimes "strengthening" can hinder team chemistry. Plus, City lost a captain who brought massive experience and stability to the team. 8/20/2019 6:15:32 PM |
heelfan All American 3268 Posts user info edit post |
You can't rule out Juve (because...CR7), Tottenham, Atleti, and PSG if Neymar stays. Bayern and Dortmund could even be contenders. The CL should be fascinatingly unpredictable once again this year. 8/21/2019 9:32:20 PM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
psshhh only peasants don't know what night to play on Tuesday or Wednesday. True elite teams know exactly when they play on Thursday nights. 8/21/2019 10:32:24 PM |
heelfan All American 3268 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Oh what a night,
Watching City on a Wednesday night,
You play Thursday 'cause you're f--king shite,
What a feeling, what a night!" |
8/21/2019 11:50:41 PM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
city and ripping off songs from teams with much more class and history, name a better duo. 8/22/2019 1:21:38 AM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
can't say that I can 8/22/2019 1:36:59 PM |
heelfan All American 3268 Posts user info edit post |
^^Here's the best one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL_CWPlfz1U 8/23/2019 1:05:59 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Just a reminder of heelfan's PL supporting history for anyone that hasn't been paying attention to this hellhole of a website for the last 15 years:
2009-2010 - clearly states he is an Arsenal supporter with his introduction to the tww community but he also "likes several Manchester City players" which basically means they signed Tevez that year and it was clear they were going to be regular players in the transfer market for ballers 2010-2011 - begins the year with a Manchester City prediction (tradition on here at the time was to predict your team's final finish) but claims he is "leaning Arsenal" near the end of the season 2011-2012 - starts pro-Arsenal but clearly a City fan at the end (gee, wonder why) 2012-2013 - only posts were to make fun of Arsenal preseason and doesn't post again for two years (hmm, what happened this season) until... 2013-2014 - ... City clinches the title at the end of the season and now that it's safe City is comfortably one of the best teams in the league he's City til he dies
shameless frontrunner and hard to take seriously when talking about team loyalties, rivalries, fan culture, etc. 8/23/2019 6:21:15 AM |
Sweden All American 12295 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Consider yourself officially called out." |
8/23/2019 8:20:11 AM |
Sweden All American 12295 Posts user info edit post |
In other crazy news, we might see the first EFL team expulsion in 27 years today - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/49434347. 8/23/2019 8:24:00 AM |
Wolfey All American 2680 Posts user info edit post |
called out
watch out wazza31, heelfan is coming for your crown of most disliked EPL poster. 8/23/2019 9:28:35 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " City is comfortably one of the best teams in the league he's City til he dies" |
8/23/2019 10:19:47 AM |
heelfan All American 3268 Posts user info edit post |
I'm honored to have my own TWW biographer. For a while there, cheering for both Arsenal and City was almost like rooting for both the Durham Bulls and the Tampa Bay Rays. Arsenal became a farm club for City, sending Adebayor, Kolo Toure, Clichy, Nasri (my favorite Arsenal player at the time lol), and Sagna to the Etihad. Then Arsene Wenger had the audacity to complain about how City's big spending was bad for soccer City's free-flowing, attacking style was much like Arsenal's. I have read that City's owners aspired to emulate Arsenal's offense and to a greater extent Barcelona's.
Yes, City gaining Tevez was one move that drew me closer to them in allegiance, as he was a player I admired for his tenacity and talent. I have been following the club long enough to remember being dismayed by Crouch's late header that sealed fourth place for Spurs and consigned City to the Europa League the following season. I was extremely disappointed when Arsenal sold RVP to United, my most-loathed club since I first started watching English soccer (Shrek, Ronaldiver, and Sir Alex irked me). Selling top players to rival clubs showed the club's lack of silverware ambitions, whereas the Blue Moon was rising and City was building a dynasty. Besides, as a Carolina fan, it made sense to support the only team in the top flight wearing sky blue and white. I still have a soft spot for Arsenal. They're like a beautiful ex-girlfriend in drug rehab that you hope will get clean one day. 8/24/2019 1:01:34 AM |
FriendlyFire . 3753 Posts user info edit post |
8/24/2019 11:14:48 AM |
FriendlyFire . 3753 Posts user info edit post |
Palace! 8/24/2019 11:53:52 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
unnnnnnnnnnluckkkkeeeee 8/24/2019 11:59:05 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
You hate to see it. 8/24/2019 12:26:47 PM |
laxman490 All American 2385 Posts user info edit post |
The more things change the more they stay the same 8/24/2019 1:51:23 PM |
heelfan All American 3268 Posts user info edit post |
Case rested. She won't lay off the meth. 8/24/2019 2:10:26 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Gonna be so weird when we finally lose at Anfield. 8/24/2019 2:25:54 PM |
heelfan All American 3268 Posts user info edit post |
Agreed, finally winning at Anfield on November 9 is gonna feel weird for us too. 8/24/2019 3:48:47 PM |