well played

4/22/2006 1:13:41 PM

Big Red, what happend to C-Flake?

4/22/2006 3:09:19 PM

hahaha the result of a catching someone bluffing sends him on tilt

hahaha

PokerStars Game #4712607413: Tournament #23113837, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2006/04/22 - 22:22:35 (ET)
Table '23113837 58' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: Wpalango (1375 in chips)
Seat 3: SBRounder (2875 in chips)
Seat 4: whizkid10 (1945 in chips)
Seat 5: Stope (915 in chips)
Seat 6: DICKEY (1345 in chips)
Seat 7: Xkal (1780 in chips)
Seat 8: killers528 (2435 in chips)
Seat 9: xcoopx (1520 in chips)
Xkal: posts small blind 15
killers528: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Xkal [6s 4s]
xcoopx is connected
xcoopx: folds
Wpalango: folds
SBRounder: folds
whizkid10: folds
Stope: folds
DICKEY: folds
Xkal: calls 15
killers528: checks
*** FLOP *** [9d Ad 9s]
Xkal: checks
killers528: bets 30
Xkal: calls 30
*** TURN *** [9d Ad 9s] [6h]
Xkal: checks
killers528: bets 120
Xkal: calls 120
*** RIVER *** [9d Ad 9s 6h] [8h]
DeeJenerat is connected
Xkal: checks
killers528: bets 450
Xkal: calls 450
*** SHOW DOWN ***
killers528: shows [Tc 4d] (a pair of Nines)
Xkal: shows [6s 4s] (two pair, Nines and Sixes)
Xkal collected 1260 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1260 | Rake 0
Board [9d Ad 9s 6h 8h]
Seat 2: Wpalango folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: SBRounder folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: whizkid10 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Stope folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: DICKEY (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Xkal (small blind) showed [6s 4s] and won (1260) with two pair, Nines and Sixes
Seat 8: killers528 (big blind) showed [Tc 4d] and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 9: xcoopx folded before Flop (didn't bet)




and then a hand or 2 later

PokerStars Game #4712633791: Tournament #23113837, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2006/04/22 - 22:24:45 (ET)
Table '23113837 58' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: DeeJenerat (1415 in chips)
Seat 2: Wpalango (1375 in chips)
Seat 3: SBRounder (2875 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: whizkid10 (1990 in chips)
Seat 5: Stope (915 in chips)
Seat 6: DICKEY (1345 in chips)
Seat 7: Xkal (2410 in chips)
Seat 8: killers528 (1790 in chips)
Seat 9: xcoopx (1490 in chips)
xcoopx: posts small blind 15
DeeJenerat: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Xkal [Qh Qs]
Wpalango: folds
SBRounder: folds
whizkid10: folds
Stope: calls 30
DICKEY: calls 30
Xkal: raises 180 to 210
killers528: calls 210
xcoopx: folds
DeeJenerat: calls 180
Stope: folds
DICKEY: folds
*** FLOP *** [6c 3s 7h]
DeeJenerat: checks
Xkal: bets 1020
killers528: calls 1020
DeeJenerat: folds
*** TURN *** [6c 3s 7h] [4s]
Xkal: bets 1180 and is all-in
killers528: calls 560 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [6c 3s 7h 4s] [6s]
SBRounder has returned
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Xkal: shows [Qh Qs] (two pair, Queens and Sixes)
killers528: shows [2c 4h] (two pair, Sixes and Fours)
Xkal said, "haha"
Xkal collected 3865 from pot
Xkal said, "thanks"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3865 | Rake 0
Board [6c 3s 7h 4s 6s]
Seat 1: DeeJenerat (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: Wpalango folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: SBRounder folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: whizkid10 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Stope folded before Flop
Seat 6: DICKEY folded before Flop
Seat 7: Xkal showed [Qh Qs] and won (3865) with two pair, Queens and Sixes
Seat 8: killers528 (button) showed [2c 4h] and lost with two pair, Sixes and Fours
Seat 9: xcoopx (small blind) folded before Flop

4/22/2006 10:28:20 PM

aha

PokerStars Game #4713253586: Tournament #23113837, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2006/04/22 - 23:15:07 (ET)
Table '23113837 58' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Nuttzo (4570 in chips)
Seat 2: Daminator (2140 in chips)
Seat 3: SBRounder (3980 in chips)
Seat 4: whizkid10 (1228 in chips)
Seat 5: Stope (880 in chips)
Seat 6: Al Cabone (6285 in chips)
Seat 7: Xkal (5017 in chips)
Seat 8: rmiron33 (4120 in chips)
Seat 9: xcoopx (1240 in chips)
Al Cabone: posts small blind 75
Xkal: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Xkal [4c 2c]
rmiron33: raises 300 to 450
xcoopx: folds
Nuttzo: folds
Daminator: folds
SBRounder: folds
whizkid10: calls 450
Stope: folds
Al Cabone: folds
Xkal: calls 300
*** FLOP *** [2s Tc Ts]
Xkal: checks
rmiron33: bets 900
whizkid10: folds
Xkal: calls 900
*** TURN *** [2s Tc Ts] [8h]
Xkal: bets 1050
rmiron33: calls 1050
*** RIVER *** [2s Tc Ts 8h] [7s]
Xkal: bets 1650
rmiron33: folds
Xkal collected 5325 from pot
Xkal: shows [4c 2c] (two pair, Tens and Deuces)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5325 | Rake 0
Board [2s Tc Ts 8h 7s]
Seat 1: Nuttzo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Daminator folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: SBRounder folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: whizkid10 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Stope (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Al Cabone (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: Xkal (big blind) collected (5325)
Seat 8: rmiron33 folded on the River
Seat 9: xcoopx folded before Flop (didn't bet)

4/22/2006 11:19:08 PM

i love playing great for and getting this shit right b4 the money of a 500 person tourney

PokerStars Game #4713624877: Tournament #23113837, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/04/22 - 23:46:59 (ET)
Table '23113837 5' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: bingster (4325 in chips)
Seat 2: Xkal (7065 in chips)
Seat 3: kudos1017 (9476 in chips)
Seat 4: jimmoneybags (3825 in chips)
Seat 5: bruce3210 (3340 in chips)
Seat 6: The pokerpug (4395 in chips)
Seat 7: lefty_21 (4619 in chips)
Seat 8: truesyalose (9300 in chips)
Seat 9: michael6666 (7185 in chips)
bingster: posts the ante 25
Xkal: posts the ante 25
kudos1017: posts the ante 25
jimmoneybags: posts the ante 25
bruce3210: posts the ante 25
The pokerpug: posts the ante 25
lefty_21: posts the ante 25
truesyalose: posts the ante 25
michael6666: posts the ante 25
truesyalose: posts small blind 100
michael6666: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Xkal [As Qh]
bingster: folds
Xkal: raises 600 to 800
kudos1017: folds
jimmoneybags: folds
bruce3210: folds
The pokerpug: calls 800
lefty_21: folds
truesyalose: folds
michael6666: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ac Td 6d]
Xkal: bets 1200
The pokerpug: raises 2370 to 3570 and is all-in
Xkal: calls 2370
*** TURN *** [Ac Td 6d] [Js]
*** RIVER *** [Ac Td 6d Js] [5h]
Xkal said, "of course"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Xkal: shows [As Qh] (a pair of Aces)
The pokerpug: shows [Jc Ad] (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
The pokerpug collected 9265 from pot
bruce3210 said, "HES ON FIRE"
Xkal said, "great play"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9265 | Rake 0
Board [Ac Td 6d Js 5h]
Seat 1: bingster folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Xkal showed [As Qh] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 3: kudos1017 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: jimmoneybags folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: bruce3210 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: The pokerpug showed [Jc Ad] and won (9265) with two pair, Aces and Jacks
Seat 7: lefty_21 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: truesyalose (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: michael6666 (big blind) folded before Flop



PokerStars Game #4713650175: Tournament #23113837, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/04/22 - 23:49:12 (ET)
Table '23113837 5' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: bingster (4438 in chips)
Seat 2: Xkal (2645 in chips)
Seat 3: kudos1017 (9426 in chips)
Seat 4: jimmoneybags (3775 in chips)
Seat 5: bruce3210 (3290 in chips)
Seat 6: The pokerpug (9240 in chips)
Seat 7: lefty_21 (4569 in chips)
Seat 8: truesyalose (9312 in chips)
Seat 9: michael6666 (6835 in chips)
bingster: posts the ante 25
Xkal: posts the ante 25
kudos1017: posts the ante 25
jimmoneybags: posts the ante 25
bruce3210: posts the ante 25
The pokerpug: posts the ante 25
lefty_21: posts the ante 25
truesyalose: posts the ante 25
michael6666: posts the ante 25
bingster: posts small blind 100
Xkal: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Xkal [Kc Ks]
kudos1017: folds
jimmoneybags: folds
kudos1017 said, "true"
bruce3210: calls 200
The pokerpug: calls 200
lefty_21: folds
truesyalose: folds
michael6666: folds
bingster: folds
Xkal: raises 2420 to 2620 and is all-in
bruce3210: folds
The pokerpug: calls 2420
*** FLOP *** [2s Ac Ah]
Xkal said, "great call"
*** TURN *** [2s Ac Ah] [As]
kudos1017 said, "ouchhh"
Xkal said, "awesome player"
*** RIVER *** [2s Ac Ah As] [Qh]
The pokerpug said, "ty"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Xkal: shows [Kc Ks] (a full house, Aces full of Kings)
The pokerpug: shows [Ad Jh] (four of a kind, Aces)
The pokerpug collected 5765 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5765 | Rake 0
Board [2s Ac Ah As Qh]
Seat 1: bingster (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Xkal (big blind) showed [Kc Ks] and lost with a full house, Aces full of Kings
Seat 3: kudos1017 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: jimmoneybags folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: bruce3210 folded before Flop
Seat 6: The pokerpug showed [Ad Jh] and won (5765) with four of a kind, Aces
Seat 7: lefty_21 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: truesyalose folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: michael6666 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)




same guy calling with AJ

[Edited on April 22, 2006 at 11:54 PM. Reason : .]

4/22/2006 11:52:45 PM

bubbled a satellite tourney where i raised got reraised and then went all in with QQ vs K10off on a flop and turn of 5672 rainbow

you know the rest

[Edited on April 23, 2006 at 1:42 AM. Reason : .]

4/23/2006 1:41:31 AM

Quote :

"aha PokerStars Game #4713253586: Tournament #23113837, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2006/04/22 - 23:15:07 (ET) Table '23113837 58' 9-max Seat #5 is the button Seat 1: Nuttzo (4570 in chips) Seat 2: Daminator (2140 in chips) Seat 3: SBRounder (3980 in chips) Seat 4: whizkid10 (1228 in chips) Seat 5: Stope (880 in chips) Seat 6: Al Cabone (6285 in chips) Seat 7: Xkal (5017 in chips) Seat 8: rmiron33 (4120 in chips) Seat 9: xcoopx (1240 in chips) Al Cabone: posts small blind 75 Xkal: posts big blind 150 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Xkal [4c 2c]"

you would make Tommy proud

4/24/2006 10:06:47 AM

^^^^ exactly what I was thinking

4/24/2006 11:29:21 AM

Have I played with you before?

4/24/2006 12:18:22 PM

for those of you who play a whole lot of mtt's

id shy away from stars for the month of may, just a bit of advice

ahaha

this is due to a rather intense team competition going on over fro 2+2 mtt boards

12 4 or 5 man teams putting up 6k per team.

they'll obv. be playing A LOT. ahah

4/24/2006 3:20:13 PM

they playing for points or cash?

4/24/2006 3:37:19 PM

what?

4/24/2006 3:48:43 PM

We should do the same.

4/24/2006 4:07:44 PM

what are the teams playing for? points, cash, or pride?

4/24/2006 4:17:23 PM

heres their rules. pretty hot, i would have done it, but i have a busy month, and plan on spending the last 3 weeks of the month at the beach with no internet access.

Quote :

" This has all come together really nicely and has happened pretty quickly as well. So this is the first real official compilation of everything so far. MTT Team Challenge (May 2006) Official Rules Rosters Due to all the interest we have received the rosters will be 5 men each. Each roster will contain a captain and four draftees. There is no set composition needed for a roster, however, you must remember that you will be scored in various categories, including low buyins, so it is advantageous to select members from each category. Category A - < $10 MTTs Category B - $11-$99 MTTs Category C - > $100 MTTs Scoring Each team will be assigned a seperate email address to send their weekly TLB scores to, each week scores will be tabulated and standings will be posted. Each team will be ranked 1-12 in the following categories: -Top 20 TLB points in Cat A -Top 20 TLB points in Cat B -Top 15 TLB points in Cat C -Top 25 TLB points overall -Wins 1st in each category receives 12 points 12th receives 1 point Also, all scores from ALL players will count towards final team score in any category, not just the one you are listed as. Draft The draft will start Monday April 24th. Picks can be PM'd to me by the first few picks whenever and the draft will take place as the picks go in a sticky thread a top this forum. The draft will be run in a serpentine form, meaning 12th in round 1 picks 1st in round 2. 01 - dmk 02 - Matt24 03 - mikeymer 04 - MLG 05 - nath 06 - Ansky 07 - Exitonly 08 - Superfluous Man 09 - gobboboy 10 - Ogre 11 - NHFunkii 12 - ActionBob Entry Fees $6000 per team. Tiered so that Cat C players pay the most, however exact figures can be left up to each team. Captains then send me the entry on Poker Stars. I will be posting the final list of players in this thread in a very short while. I have included all the players who regged late too, however, reg is closed here. Now...... The new stuff. This Sunday, April 23rd is MTT Combine day Dont know if you will get drafted? Want to increase your draft stock? Well this sunday is the day to do it. Starting at 12:00ET a MTT Combine thread will be posted where all the players who want to can post their results in the Sunday tourneys. There is something for everyone, from the $215, to the $10 Deep Stacks and even our very own Maniac Rebuyfest! So hop on Stars and start playing this Sunday. ~Justin "

david, i thought you didnt play anymore?

[Edited on April 24, 2006 at 6:03 PM. Reason : e]

4/24/2006 6:02:30 PM

^ wow didn't know about that. guess i need to get on 2+2 more often. would be cool to get something like that going for tww, but i doubt we would have enough for many teams.

4/25/2006 2:03:20 AM

I played with BoobsR_gr8 a few weeks ago, just no time for the online mtt lately.

4/25/2006 8:22:32 AM

its just a penny table and i was just messing around and didnt have much money in but still.....



PokerStars Game #4738537226: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2006/04/25 - 09:39:28 (ET)
Table 'Icarus' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Serge1975 ($5.44 in chips)
Seat 2: Marat2 ($4.09 in chips)
Seat 3: luxuryjuny ($9.18 in chips)
Seat 4: PRO BASS ($6.09 in chips)
Seat 5: Mik1w ($4.07 in chips)
Seat 6: adamlaytatst ($2.64 in chips)
Seat 7: Heckler1 ($3.94 in chips)
Seat 9: jgray0518 ($3.34 in chips)
jaya_jaya will be allowed to play after the button
jgray0518: posts small blind $0.01
Serge1975: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to adamlaytatst [Ad 4d]
Marat2: calls $0.02
luxuryjuny: calls $0.02
PRO BASS: calls $0.02
Mik1w: folds
adamlaytatst: calls $0.02
Heckler1: folds
jgray0518: calls $0.01
Serge1975: checks
*** FLOP *** [5d 2c 2d]
jgray0518: checks
Serge1975: checks
Marat2: checks
luxuryjuny: checks
PRO BASS: checks
adamlaytatst: bets $0.04
jgray0518: calls $0.04
Serge1975: folds
Marat2: calls $0.04
luxuryjuny: folds
PRO BASS: calls $0.04
*** TURN *** [5d 2c 2d] [3d]
jgray0518: checks
Marat2: checks
PRO BASS: checks
adamlaytatst: bets $0.08
jgray0518: calls $0.08
Marat2: calls $0.08
PRO BASS: folds
*** RIVER *** [5d 2c 2d 3d] [6s]
jgray0518: checks
Marat2: bets $0.10
adamlaytatst: raises $0.30 to $0.40
jgray0518: calls $0.40
Marat2: raises $0.30 to $0.70
adamlaytatst: raises $1.80 to $2.50 and is all-in
jgray0518: calls $2.10
Marat2: raises $1.45 to $3.95 and is all-in
jgray0518: calls $0.70 and is all-in
adamlaytatst said, "NUTS"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Marat2: shows [Jc 4h] (a straight, Deuce to Six)
jgray0518: mucks hand
Marat2 collected $1.35 from side pot
adamlaytatst: shows [Ad 4d] (a straight flush, Ace to Five)
adamlaytatst collected $7.62 from main pot
jgray0518 leaves the table
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $9.42 Main pot $7.62. Side pot $1.35. | Rake $0.45
Board [5d 2c 2d 3d 6s]
Seat 1: Serge1975 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: Marat2 showed [Jc 4h] and won ($1.35) with a straight, Deuce to Six
Seat 3: luxuryjuny folded on the Flop
Seat 4: PRO BASS folded on the Turn
Seat 5: Mik1w folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: adamlaytatst showed [Ad 4d] and won ($7.62) with a straight flush, Ace to Five
Seat 7: Heckler1 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: jgray0518 (small blind) mucked [7h 3c]

4/25/2006 9:44:40 AM

4/25/2006 6:03:47 PM

i believe i played this poorly...my first instinct was that he did have AA, but do you lay it down?

hand from the FT of a mtt on party

***** Hand History for Game 4086050085 *****
0/0 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 22613062) - Tue Apr 25 02:56:18 EDT 2006
Table Regular(673304) Table 1 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: rounderme (35804)
Seat 2: Roc_ket2005 (312958)
Seat 3: Weststiger (48443)
Seat 4: Cougars4444 (192568)
Seat 5: TheMoe8 (178389)
Seat 6: Bounty4me (277301)
Seat 7: bobbypete (120132)
Seat 8: Woo25 (202020)
Seat 9: yoyotiger (463287)
Seat 10: shift78 (209098)
rounderme posts ante (400)
Roc_ket2005 posts ante (400)
Weststiger posts ante (400)
Cougars4444 posts ante (400)
TheMoe8 posts ante (400)
Bounty4me posts ante (400)
bobbypete posts ante (400)
Woo25 posts ante (400)
yoyotiger posts ante (400)
shift78 posts ante (400)
Woo25 posts small blind (8000)
yoyotiger posts big blind (16000)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TheMoe8 [ Tc, Td ]
shift78 folds.
rounderme folds.
Roc_ket2005 folds.
Weststiger folds.
Cougars4444 folds.
TheMoe8 raises (50000) to 50000
Bounty4me raises (87900) to 87900
bobbypete folds.
Woo25 folds.
yoyotiger folds.
TheMoe8 calls (37900)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ah, Jd, 6c ]
TheMoe8 checks.
Bounty4me bets (16000)
TheMoe8 calls (16000)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Th ]
TheMoe8 checks.
Bounty4me bets (173001)
Bounty4me is all-In.
TheMoe8 calls (74089)
TheMoe8 is all-In.
** Dealing River ** : [ 4s ]
Creating Main Pot with $383978 with TheMoe8
Creating Side Pot 1 with $98912 with Bounty4me
** Summary **
Main Pot: 383978 | Side Pot 1: 98912
Board: [ Ah Jd 6c Th 4s ]

rounderme balance 35404, lost 400 (folded)
Roc_ket2005 balance 312558, lost 400 (folded)
Weststiger balance 48043, lost 400 (folded)
Cougars4444 balance 192168, lost 400 (folded)
TheMoe8 balance 0, lost 178389 [ Tc Td ] [ three of a kind, tens -- Ah,Jd,Tc,Td,Th ]
Bounty4me balance 482890, bet 277301, collected 482890, net +205589 [ Ad Ac ] [ three of a kind, aces -- Ad,Ac,Ah,Jd,Th ]
bobbypete balance 119732, lost 400 (folded)
Woo25 balance 193620, lost 8400 (folded)
yoyotiger balance 446887, lost 16400 (folded)
shift78 balance 208698, lost 400 (folded)

4/25/2006 6:20:03 PM

Should have folded preflop. Don't put in half your chips preflop. Fold or push all-in.

[Edited on April 25, 2006 at 8:39 PM. Reason : ]

4/25/2006 8:38:15 PM

^just didnt seem like folding was an option after putting in over 1/4 of my chips already?

4/26/2006 2:30:23 AM

the remin raise is the obvious AA online player thinking they are sneaky play

I muck QQ and JJ most of the time there

4/26/2006 2:36:19 AM

i thought you sucked at online poker

BUT YOURE SO GOOD AT READING PPL

4/26/2006 7:21:38 AM

Quote :

"^just didnt seem like folding was an option after putting in over 1/4 of my chips already?"

So what happens when thre are overs on the flop and you don't set up? You were going to call and then fold after the flop after you had risked 1/2 of your chips??? That's a much better idea...

4/26/2006 10:54:44 AM

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"i believe i played this poorly...my first instinct was that he did have AA, but do you lay it down? hand from the FT of a mtt on party ***** Hand History for Game 4086050085 ***** 0/0 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 22613062) - Tue Apr 25 02:56:18 EDT 2006 Table Regular(673304) Table 1 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button Total number of players : 10 Seat 1: rounderme (35804) Seat 2: Roc_ket2005 (312958) Seat 3: Weststiger (48443) Seat 4: Cougars4444 (192568) Seat 5: TheMoe8 (178389) Seat 6: Bounty4me (277301) Seat 7: bobbypete (120132) Seat 8: Woo25 (202020) Seat 9: yoyotiger (463287) Seat 10: shift78 (209098) rounderme posts ante (400) Roc_ket2005 posts ante (400) Weststiger posts ante (400) Cougars4444 posts ante (400) TheMoe8 posts ante (400) Bounty4me posts ante (400) bobbypete posts ante (400) Woo25 posts ante (400) yoyotiger posts ante (400) shift78 posts ante (400) Woo25 posts small blind (8000) yoyotiger posts big blind (16000) ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to TheMoe8 [ Tc, Td ] shift78 folds. rounderme folds. Roc_ket2005 folds. Weststiger folds. Cougars4444 folds. TheMoe8 raises (50000) to 50000 Bounty4me raises (87900) to 87900 bobbypete folds. Woo25 folds. yoyotiger folds. TheMoe8 calls (37900) ** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ah, Jd, 6c ] TheMoe8 checks. Bounty4me bets (16000) TheMoe8 calls (16000) ** Dealing Turn ** : [ Th ] TheMoe8 checks. Bounty4me bets (173001) Bounty4me is all-In. TheMoe8 calls (74089) TheMoe8 is all-In. ** Dealing River ** : [ 4s ] Creating Main Pot with $383978 with TheMoe8 Creating Side Pot 1 with $98912 with Bounty4me ** Summary ** Main Pot: 383978 | Side Pot 1: 98912 Board: [ Ah Jd 6c Th 4s ] rounderme balance 35404, lost 400 (folded) Roc_ket2005 balance 312558, lost 400 (folded) Weststiger balance 48043, lost 400 (folded) Cougars4444 balance 192168, lost 400 (folded) TheMoe8 balance 0, lost 178389 [ Tc Td ] [ three of a kind, tens -- Ah,Jd,Tc,Td,Th ] Bounty4me balance 482890, bet 277301, collected 482890, net +205589 [ Ad Ac ] [ three of a kind, aces -- Ad,Ac,Ah,Jd,Th ] bobbypete balance 119732, lost 400 (folded) Woo25 balance 193620, lost 8400 (folded) yoyotiger balance 446887, lost 16400 (folded) shift78 balance 208698, lost 400 (folded)"

tricky hand, but we cant get too involved over the final result, even though it sucks.

let's start from the beginning.

its a FT, so the $EV at this point is really starting to come into play in relation to the cEV.

0/0 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 22613062) - Tue Apr 25 02:56:18 EDT 2006
Table Regular(673304) Table 1 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: rounderme (35804)
Seat 2: Roc_ket2005 (312958)
Seat 3: Weststiger (48443)
Seat 4: Cougars4444 (192568)
Seat 5: TheMoe8 (178389)
Seat 6: Bounty4me (277301)
Seat 7: bobbypete (120132)
Seat 8: Woo25 (202020)
Seat 9: yoyotiger (463287)
Seat 10: shift78 (209098)
rounderme posts ante (400)
Roc_ket2005 posts ante (400)
Weststiger posts ante (400)
Cougars4444 posts ante (400)
TheMoe8 posts ante (400)
Bounty4me posts ante (400)
bobbypete posts ante (400)
Woo25 posts ante (400)
yoyotiger posts ante (400)
shift78 posts ante (400)
Woo25 posts small blind (8000)
yoyotiger posts big blind (16000)

odly enough, theres only like two guys who are wayyy short, but this does come into play however. One's on the BB in two hands with an M of like 1.5, he needs to be the first one out for sure. The second is right behind with another low M. you are getting short sure, but in no way desperate. Everyone at the table sees this, and doesnt want to fuck something up in order to not place higher than them. Usually this is a good spot to steal from, but an even better spot to resteal from.....

Most of how i would have played this hand depends on my read fromthe CL, or in this case who we tangle with. The most important thing here, is what types of hands is he willing to make this move with, but not just push over top of your raise. the standard play there is just to push, but i think that you would have had an easier fold.

Has he been active?
Has he been stealing/restealing liberally without getting caught?
How many hands has he been open raising with? RRing with?
what hands have you seen him show down?

More than likely, you opened up the 2nd table when there were 20 left or so in order to get an early start on a few reads.

What is his range here is the most important part in our decision, preflop.

for me, if youve been really tight and folded to a few resteals, im going bananas with a chip lead of AJ+, TT+ here and just pushing.

to this range, (i dont have pokerstove on me now, im in a lab) i believe is a slight favorite. This may be one of those instances where you have the equity to call, but due to game conditions its proper to take a bit of -cEV for more $EV. by folding your proper equity.

now if hes wide open and could be doing this with air, and only RR'd me, im repushing and hating the fact he woke up with a big hand.

preflop poker is so key on final tables.

your raise size is also a bit strange.

why bet 3.125 BB, when if the table is acting like a reg. mtt ft, a raise of 2.5xbb will do for a nice steal?

also, you are committing like 1/3 of your chips here on an open raise, which is never good. on his RR, you cant just call as has been said. its push or fold. you cant put like 50 some odd percent of your chips in preflop..... any flop will scare you and you cant c-bet or anything. you can do nothing really, and have no room to work. if you check fold over 1/2 your stack away, you are the new target.

the flop plays itself. you cant c-bet, you cant c/r. youre stuck.

the turn pretty much blows, but we shouldnt have gottent his far anyways.

equity equity equity.

sure he came up with a big hand this time, but what was your equity against his range with this pot, balancing the cEV with the $EV.

dont take this as comming down on the hand, im not.

thats a terrible spot to be in early in a FT, and a very tough hand.

I would say more, but ive gotta be in class in 50 seconds.

aha

4/26/2006 11:19:09 AM

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"the turn pretty much blows, but we shouldnt have gottent his far anyways."

Yeah. What did you put him on, 99? You could have at least re-raised after the flop if you really thought you had him beat at that point.

4/26/2006 11:37:03 AM

ben- i know youre busy with school, but are you doing event 4 for tomorrow night?

4/26/2006 10:35:50 PM

Yeah bitch, get this shit set up!

4/27/2006 5:47:27 PM

I have to get fitted for a Tux tonight. So I am gonna miss the game...
(wedding this weekend)

4/27/2006 6:06:30 PM

mebbe i'll make an appearance

4/27/2006 6:31:38 PM

whats the game tonight?

4/27/2006 6:39:38 PM

in 2/4 NLH ring game on stars, I just had a guy call a re-raise of 50 pf with 69 suited and flop a full house on my KK

i got stacked


i dont know how people play online for a living, if i did, id hate my life

[Edited on April 27, 2006 at 6:56 PM. Reason : .]

4/27/2006 6:56:27 PM

keywords: online, suited, pokerstars

4/27/2006 7:03:02 PM

keyword: stacks of $400+

not .25/.50 blinds


[Edited on April 27, 2006 at 7:11 PM. Reason : .]

4/27/2006 7:03:53 PM

id: 23816237
nlhe, 10+1
8:25

stars.

ok go

4/27/2006 7:17:42 PM

keywords: you calling preflop re-raise of $68 with 68o
bing!

4/27/2006 7:31:43 PM

1. it was $56
2. i said im doing this because you played your AK weakly and then you agreed to run it 2x

I said weakly bc you played AK the exact same way every time, i was more of a lesson which i announced b4 the call

if you make a real raise pf like to 12, it doesnt happen

you raise 5 utg with it, so i min reraise and say here is a lucky minreraise just



also 50 bucks isnt really that big of a deal when I have a stack of like 400

it made a really tight table loosen up, and i ended up cashing 1300 that night


[Edited on April 27, 2006 at 7:45 PM. Reason : .]

4/27/2006 7:42:32 PM

im in the tourney

4/27/2006 7:45:38 PM

OMG A TOURNEY OF 4

WHO IS GONNA GO OUT ON THE BUBBLE

4/27/2006 8:16:08 PM

im in...we still need some more ppl tho

4/27/2006 8:16:09 PM

it is going to take hours of patience and discipline to win this one

4/27/2006 8:22:49 PM

a few hands into the Stars $150+12



PokerStars Game #4763904260: Tournament #23515406, $150+$12 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/04/27 - 21:14:45 (ET)
Table '23515406 55' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Xkal (1550 in chips)
Seat 2: AA CRAZY AA (1490 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 3: rleonidas (790 in chips)
Seat 4: jwvdcw (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: 26mikie26 (1480 in chips)
Seat 6: cowherpower (2120 in chips)
Seat 7: HROC (1150 in chips)
Seat 8: AsNas (1550 in chips)
Seat 9: smuroach (1850 in chips)
smuroach: posts small blind 10
Xkal: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Xkal [7s Kd]
AA CRAZY AA: folds
rleonidas: folds
jwvdcw: folds
26mikie26: folds
cowherpower: calls 20
HROC: calls 20
AsNas: folds
smuroach: calls 10
Xkal: checks
*** FLOP *** [6c Ks 2h]
smuroach: checks
Xkal: checks
cowherpower: bets 60
HROC: folds
smuroach: folds
Xkal: raises 120 to 180
cowherpower: calls 120
*** TURN *** [6c Ks 2h] [4h]
Xkal: bets 200
cowherpower: calls 200
*** RIVER *** [6c Ks 2h 4h] [3c]
Xkal: bets 300
cowherpower: raises 540 to 840
Xkal: calls 540
*** SHOW DOWN ***
cowherpower: shows [5s 6d] (a straight, Deuce to Six)
Xkal: mucks hand
cowherpower collected 2520 from pot
Xkal said, "what a play"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2520 | Rake 0
Board [6c Ks 2h 4h 3c]
Seat 1: Xkal (big blind) mucked [7s Kd]
Seat 2: AA CRAZY AA folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: rleonidas folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: jwvdcw folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: 26mikie26 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: cowherpower showed [5s 6d] and won (2520) with a straight, Deuce to Six
Seat 7: HROC folded on the Flop
Seat 8: AsNas (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: smuroach (small blind) folded on the Flop

4/27/2006 9:18:58 PM

2 hands later

PokerStars Game #4763940817: Tournament #23515406, $150+$12 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/04/27 - 21:18:00 (ET)
Table '23515406 55' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Xkal (300 in chips)
Seat 2: AA CRAZY AA (1460 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 3: rleonidas (720 in chips)
Seat 4: jwvdcw (1480 in chips)
Seat 5: 26mikie26 (1480 in chips)
Seat 6: cowherpower (3400 in chips)
Seat 7: HROC (1310 in chips)
Seat 8: AsNas (1470 in chips)
Seat 9: smuroach (1860 in chips)
jwvdcw: posts small blind 10
26mikie26: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Xkal [4h 4s]
cowherpower: folds
HROC: calls 20
AsNas: folds
smuroach: folds
Xkal: raises 280 to 300 and is all-in
AA CRAZY AA: folds
rleonidas: folds
jwvdcw: folds
26mikie26: calls 280
HROC: calls 280
*** FLOP *** [Th 3c Kd]
26mikie26: checks
HROC: checks
*** TURN *** [Th 3c Kd] [4c]
26mikie26: bets 320
HROC: calls 320
*** RIVER *** [Th 3c Kd 4c] [7c]
26mikie26: checks
HROC: bets 690 and is all-in
rleonidas is disconnected
26mikie26: calls 690
*** SHOW DOWN ***
HROC: shows [Tc Kc] (a flush, King high)
26mikie26: shows [Qs Qd] (a pair of Queens)
HROC collected 2020 from side pot
Xkal: shows [4h 4s] (three of a kind, Fours)
HROC collected 910 from main pot
rleonidas is connected
Xkal said, "even better"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2930 Main pot 910. Side pot 2020. | Rake 0
Board [Th 3c Kd 4c 7c]
Seat 1: Xkal showed [4h 4s] and lost with three of a kind, Fours
Seat 2: AA CRAZY AA folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: rleonidas (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: jwvdcw (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: 26mikie26 (big blind) showed [Qs Qd] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 6: cowherpower folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: HROC showed [Tc Kc] and won (2930) with a flush, King high
Seat 8: AsNas folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: smuroach folded before Flop (didn't bet)

4/27/2006 9:20:14 PM

I hate to say it, but that's often time what happens when you raise out of position with K7 offsuit.

4/27/2006 9:21:19 PM

i didnt raise out of position

i was the BB

and then i check raised

the reason i check raise is to see if he is strong

if he goes over the check-raise i insta fold

4/27/2006 9:23:58 PM

nm

[Edited on April 27, 2006 at 9:25 PM. Reason : nm]

4/27/2006 9:24:45 PM

money-wise this is my biggest losing online day ever

4/27/2006 9:30:11 PM

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"smuroach: checks Xkal: checks cowherpower: bets 60 HROC: folds smuroach: folds Xkal: raises 120 to 180 cowherpower: calls 120"

this was where you messed up, IMO. You check raised with top pair, bad kicker, out of position. This is generally not a good move, and when he called you should have been a little concerned. I probably would have checked instead of betting 200 on the turn, then if he bets you can get away from your hand, but that's just me. We don't play anything close to the same style and I'm certainly not accomplished enough to tell you how to play.

[Edited on April 27, 2006 at 9:31 PM. Reason : ]

4/27/2006 9:30:40 PM

no i mean i am open to criticism

I took his instacall of the check raise as a typical online AQ or AJ call or maybe some kind of mid underpair

Like i said, i wanted to take control of the hand and leading out first to act never really accompishes that online unless it is for a larger bet

My problem is the turn, I probably should have bet in the 400 range, but then again I was trying not to commit myself to that pot with K7

o well

the dude was a fish and that is all there is to it

4/27/2006 9:36:29 PM